LfS Spectator 2.02 for S2 released

LuckyL · 15th September 2005, 21:33

Hi everyone,

here -> http://www.triso.de/download/LfS_Spectator_2_02.zip you can get an S2 ready version of the LfS Spectator.

Changes include a new "look", smoother car movement, ability to set a frame rate (for low cpu usage or smooth graphics) and zoom out to fully visible track.

The download includes the .smx files for all tracks. As usual, please read the readme.txt before posting questions

Expect a minor update in a few weeks, when suggestions made in this forum can be realised.

Edit: for best visual quality (font) use fsaa for OpenGL

tristancliffe · 15th September 2005, 21:49

Cool! I'll try this later, but sounds great to me. I never actually used the original version, but I heard good things about it

El_TaxMaN · 15th September 2005, 22:22

Weee!

tristancliffe · 15th September 2005, 22:27

Tried it

It's great. Watching an oval race atm.

My suggestions.
1. I would like to turn off the chat and race time overlays. Is this possible?

2. Everything is in german. How about language text files so we can have English, French, Spanish...... versions, like LFS does?

Tweaker · 15th September 2005, 22:34

Wow great!!!! Lots of fun to use

This should be stickied

(I hope league races will let the public use this) Good job.

EDIT: There is a bug I just had when switching between servers. The player you are focused on in the first server is carried over when joining a new server. If you know what I mean...

McAzerty · 17th September 2005, 07:13

How you start that spion thing? :-p

Chris_Kerry · 17th September 2005, 08:58

Maybe a little guide to explain how the thing works to. For many (including me) I haven't used previous versions of LFS spectator so am slightly confused to it's purpose and how to use it. I'm still struggling with LFS stats and thats supposed to be really easy

LuckyL · 17th September 2005, 09:16

ok, here's a small guide:

LfS Spectator lets you watch races without beeing on the actual server. You can see where people are and what they do on an upside down view of the track.

To watch the races on a certain server, this server must be registered in Victors relay server, so that the server data can be transmitted. In case you want your own Server to be watchable, you can do this here: http://www.lfsworld.net/?win=hosts&whichTab=insim_relay

Now, when you started the LfS Spectator, just click "Get Server List" to receive a list of the available servers, including the number of drivers on that server. Just select one and click "Spectate" - done.

Chris_Kerry · 17th September 2005, 09:23

Pretty simple thanks for the heads up.

xaotik · 17th September 2005, 09:58

Many thanks - excellent work!

Here's a skin I threw together for this with a slightly more LFS look to it.
Just unzip it in your LFS spectator installation folder.

LuckyL · 17th September 2005, 11:07

cool!

Eldanor · 17th September 2005, 11:14

Great work! LuckyL, I love this tool

Here goes a suggestion:

The messages and playerlist boxes are too big IMHO, when I maximize the window they take a lot of sapce, could yo make them fixed size?

Tweaker · 17th September 2005, 12:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eldanor

Great work! LuckyL, I love this tool

Here goes a suggestion:

The messages and playerlist boxes are too big IMHO, when I maximize the window they take a lot of sapce, could yo make them fixed size?

I agree, they are very big and take a lot of space over what you are trying to see. The only way to 'kind of' avoid them it so zoom out (with keypad +/-)... but they are still in the way.

They need to be smaller, and we need to have the option to hide/show them I think. OR have the full window with the map and stuff, but have a right/left-side pane that is part of the program but not overlapping the window. Kind of like when you press CTRL+H in your browser to bring up the left-side History panel. Instead it would have all the statistics there and out of the way.

Chris_Kerry · 17th September 2005, 12:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by xaotik

Many thanks - excellent work!

Here's a skin I threw together for this with a slightly more LFS look to it.
Just unzip it in your LFS spectator installation folder.

I have used this on my version. Gets a big

from me.

vrooom · 17th September 2005, 14:53

Fanastic stuff!!!!!! i agree with chatbox and player list.. but any other from that. Its brillant!

Racedriver76 · 20th September 2005, 19:49

Very cool indeed! I am grateful it came out now, so I can follow my mates racing online. My pc died some weeks ago, so finally I can follow some racing again! Thanks!

McAzerty · 21st September 2005, 11:01

all i get is WHITE SCREEN

bbman · 21st September 2005, 11:35

It would be cool to click on a car and the camera follows the car you just clicked...

Also, I miss some information on the servers dialogue... It would be fine if you could see, what track is being played at the moment on the server... And I couldn't see which type of car the players were driving (or maybe I'm just to stupid to see)...

Misko · 21st September 2005, 11:41

Just a few noobish questions... ALL you need to do to get your server watchable is apply for inSim Relay on LFSW and thats it? No other configuring?

Is it possible to then use other inSim app on the server? IIRC there could be only one that connects via inSim but with relay I'm not sure.

Does it work with Demo servers as well or only S2? That is if demo servers can apply for relay at all.

thanks

Victor · 21st September 2005, 12:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Misko

Just a few noobish questions... ALL you need to do to get your server watchable is apply for inSim Relay on LFSW and thats it? No other configuring?

yep - you first request access to the InSim Relay setup page and then when you have access you enter the IP, InSim port nr. and the adminpass of your host. Of course you must make sure the port has been forwarded so the relay can connect to your host.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Misko

Is it possible to then use other inSim app on the server? IIRC there could be only one that connects via inSim but with relay I'm not sure.

It used to be the case and still is with current insim mods. However, it is now possible with a few modifications on the insim app's side, to connect to a host, with admin priviledges, via the relay. But the people who made those mods and who will make mods, need to provide the functionality for that to work.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Misko

Does it work with Demo servers as well or only S2? That is if demo servers can apply for relay at all.

it works for any host - even in lan mode I guess, as long as the relay can connect.

Frags · 22nd September 2005, 08:59

Does it take any bandwidth from the server which is being spectated ?
Would it affect the players on ther server, if people spectates ?

Is the program getting its data from the masterserver ? Or ?

Victor · 22nd September 2005, 12:03

well yes, it does take some of the host's bandwidth. It varies a lot though depending on the activity on the host. I guess you should see it as one additional racer being connected.
The MCI packets are set at an interval of twice per second. With no activity, nothing is sent and with 17+ racers in-race, 6 MCI packets are sent per second (2 * 3). Additionally race-state packets are sent for splits, laptimes and messages etc, but those are all pretty tiny packets and only sent when needed.

Victor · 22nd September 2005, 18:13

hmm not sure if the cars in the attached image are indeed UF1000 (they look more like xrg)?

LuckyL · 22nd September 2005, 19:15

yes, it's a bug.. thnx for poiting it out. will be gone next version

joshdifabio · 23rd September 2005, 00:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Victor

hmm not sure if the cars in the attached image are indeed UF1000 (they look more like xrg)?

What you talking about they are clearly uf1000s

Frags · 23rd September 2005, 09:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Victor

hmm not sure if the cars in the attached image are indeed UF1000 (they look more like xrg)?

UF1000 Coupé ???

Tomi · 30th September 2005, 13:42

Great tool Lucky L

One question though : Does it support autocross layouts and if it does not, do you plan to add the layouts + penalties (when hitting a cone or tire) support in the future ?

I'm racing in a slalom championship and it would be a great tool for us

Nick Bandini · 5th October 2005, 08:46

Many thanks LuckyL for the great tool and thanks xaotik for the skin

sil3ntwar · 6th October 2005, 05:08

would it be possible to get a version that does not include the smx files? I already have the smx files and 10 megs is rather hefty since im on 56k.

sil3ntwar · 7th October 2005, 06:52

nvm i got it eventually :P

The tool is awesome and is pretty much exactly what i was going to write to learn delphi + opengl until i realised it was alot harder than i thought :P

15th September 2005, 21:33	#1 -
LuckyL S2 licensed Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 7	LfS Spectator 2.02 for S2 released Hi everyone, here -> http://www.triso.de/download/LfS_Spectator_2_02.zip you can get an S2 ready version of the LfS Spectator. Changes include a new "look", smoother car movement, ability to set a frame rate (for low cpu usage or smooth graphics) and zoom out to fully visible track. The download includes the .smx files for all tracks. As usual, please read the readme.txt before posting questions Expect a minor update in a few weeks, when suggestions made in this forum can be realised. Edit: for best visual quality (font) use fsaa for OpenGL Last edited by LuckyL; 15th September 2005 at 21:45.
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15th September 2005, 21:49	#2 -
tristancliffe S2 licensed Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Norwich Posts: 14,648	Cool! I'll try this later, but sounds great to me. I never actually used the original version, but I heard good things about it __________________ F3, LFS, nKPro & rF Licenced Dallara398.com - GALLERY LFS World \| LFSWiki\| Master Skinnerz

15th September 2005, 22:22	#3 -
El_TaxMaN S2 licensed Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 30	Weee!
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15th September 2005, 22:27	#4 -
tristancliffe S2 licensed Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Norwich Posts: 14,648	Tried it It's great. Watching an oval race atm. My suggestions. 1. I would like to turn off the chat and race time overlays. Is this possible? 2. Everything is in german. How about language text files so we can have English, French, Spanish...... versions, like LFS does? __________________ F3, LFS, nKPro & rF Licenced Dallara398.com - GALLERY LFS World \| LFSWiki\| Master Skinnerz

15th September 2005, 22:34	#5 -
Tweaker S2 licensed Racername: TWEAK·) Join Date: May 2003 Location: California Posts: 5,154	Wow great!!!! Lots of fun to use This should be stickied (I hope league races will let the public use this) Good job. EDIT: There is a bug I just had when switching between servers. The player you are focused on in the first server is carried over when joining a new server. If you know what I mean... __________________ TWEAK·) Last edited by Tweaker; 15th September 2005 at 22:40.

17th September 2005, 07:13	#6 -
McAzerty No longer welcome Racername: [RX-7]McAzerty Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Belgium Posts: 101	How you start that spion thing? :-p

17th September 2005, 08:58	#7 -
Chris_Kerry S2 licensed Racername: vMax C.Kerry Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Derby, England Posts: 687	Maybe a little guide to explain how the thing works to. For many (including me) I haven't used previous versions of LFS spectator so am slightly confused to it's purpose and how to use it. I'm still struggling with LFS stats and thats supposed to be really easy __________________ vMaxC.Kerry - vMax LFS Co-Ordinator "There are seven winners of the Monaco Grand Prix on the starting line today, and four of them are Michael Schumacher." - Murray Walker

17th September 2005, 09:16	#8 -
LuckyL S2 licensed Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 7	ok, here's a small guide: LfS Spectator lets you watch races without beeing on the actual server. You can see where people are and what they do on an upside down view of the track. To watch the races on a certain server, this server must be registered in Victors relay server, so that the server data can be transmitted. In case you want your own Server to be watchable, you can do this here: http://www.lfsworld.net/?win=hosts&whichTab=insim_relay Now, when you started the LfS Spectator, just click "Get Server List" to receive a list of the available servers, including the number of drivers on that server. Just select one and click "Spectate" - done.
LuckyL S2 licensed Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 7

17th September 2005, 09:23	#9 -
Chris_Kerry S2 licensed Racername: vMax C.Kerry Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Derby, England Posts: 687	Pretty simple thanks for the heads up. __________________ vMaxC.Kerry - vMax LFS Co-Ordinator "There are seven winners of the Monaco Grand Prix on the starting line today, and four of them are Michael Schumacher." - Murray Walker

17th September 2005, 11:07	#11 -
LuckyL S2 licensed Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 7	cool!
LuckyL S2 licensed Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 7

17th September 2005, 11:14	#12 -
Eldanor S2 licensed Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Madrid Posts: 778	Great work! LuckyL, I love this tool Here goes a suggestion: The messages and playerlist boxes are too big IMHO, when I maximize the window they take a lot of sapce, could yo make them fixed size?

17th September 2005, 14:53	#15 -
vrooom S2 licensed Join Date: May 2003 Location: Milton Keynes Posts: 132	Fanastic stuff!!!!!! i agree with chatbox and player list.. but any other from that. Its brillant!

20th September 2005, 19:49	#16 -
Racedriver76 S2 licensed Racername: [TKH] J. Sørensen Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Copenhagen Posts: 20	Very cool indeed! I am grateful it came out now, so I can follow my mates racing online. My pc died some weeks ago, so finally I can follow some racing again! Thanks! __________________ _________

21st September 2005, 11:01	#17 -
McAzerty No longer welcome Racername: [RX-7]McAzerty Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Belgium Posts: 101	all i get is WHITE SCREEN

21st September 2005, 11:35	#18 -
bbman S2 licensed Racername: GRT.bbman Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Vienna, Austria Posts: 3,272	It would be cool to click on a car and the camera follows the car you just clicked... Also, I miss some information on the servers dialogue... It would be fine if you could see, what track is being played at the moment on the server... And I couldn't see which type of car the players were driving (or maybe I'm just to stupid to see)...

21st September 2005, 11:41	#19 -
Misko S2 licensed Racername: Miško Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Serbia Posts: 303	Just a few noobish questions... ALL you need to do to get your server watchable is apply for inSim Relay on LFSW and thats it? No other configuring? Is it possible to then use other inSim app on the server? IIRC there could be only one that connects via inSim but with relay I'm not sure. Does it work with Demo servers as well or only S2? That is if demo servers can apply for relay at all. thanks

22nd September 2005, 08:59	#21 -
Frags S2 licensed Racername: Frags Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 105	Bandwidth ? Does it take any bandwidth from the server which is being spectated ? Would it affect the players on ther server, if people spectates ? Is the program getting its data from the masterserver ? Or ?

22nd September 2005, 12:03	#22 -
Victor Developer Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,229	well yes, it does take some of the host's bandwidth. It varies a lot though depending on the activity on the host. I guess you should see it as one additional racer being connected. The MCI packets are set at an interval of twice per second. With no activity, nothing is sent and with 17+ racers in-race, 6 MCI packets are sent per second (2 * 3). Additionally race-state packets are sent for splits, laptimes and messages etc, but those are all pretty tiny packets and only sent when needed.
Victor Developer Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,229

22nd September 2005, 18:13	#23 -
Victor Developer Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,229	Bug? hmm not sure if the cars in the attached image are indeed UF1000 (they look more like xrg)? Attached Thumbnails
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22nd September 2005, 19:15	#24 -
LuckyL S2 licensed Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 7	yes, it's a bug.. thnx for poiting it out. will be gone next version
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30th September 2005, 13:42	#27 -
Tomi S2 licensed Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 182	Great tool Lucky L One question though : Does it support autocross layouts and if it does not, do you plan to add the layouts + penalties (when hitting a cone or tire) support in the future ? I'm racing in a slalom championship and it would be a great tool for us
Tomi S2 licensed Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 182

5th October 2005, 08:46	#28 -
Nick Bandini S2 licensed Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 2	Many thanks LuckyL for the great tool and thanks xaotik for the skin
Nick Bandini S2 licensed Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 2

6th October 2005, 05:08	#29 -
sil3ntwar S2 licensed Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 1,646	would it be possible to get a version that does not include the smx files? I already have the smx files and 10 megs is rather hefty since im on 56k.
sil3ntwar S2 licensed Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 1,646

7th October 2005, 06:52	#30 -
sil3ntwar S2 licensed Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 1,646	nvm i got it eventually :P The tool is awesome and is pretty much exactly what i was going to write to learn delphi + opengl until i realised it was alot harder than i thought :P
sil3ntwar S2 licensed Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 1,646

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