LFS TV Director, Release 0.3

Soeren Scharf · 22nd October 2006, 13:01

hello community,

everyone was asking for onboard cameras... here they are.

with kind regards
Soeren Scharf

History:

24.05.2008, Version 0.3:
- custom cams (onboard, front and rear cam) added
- added option to disable overlay output (driver info, race time/laps, standings...)
- added alias file for driver names
- fixed bug: tvdirector did not save cam files, when changes were made in GUI
- fixed bug: handling of driver change (IS_TOC)

27.12.2007, Version 0.2:
- insim support for Patch X and later
- devided the application into 2 separate executables (GUI and Control)
- GUI lets you control cameras manually (useful for professional broadcasters)
- action detection completely rewritten (still based only on distance but in a much smarter way)
- output of standings, driver information and lapcount or left racetime

14.03.2007, Version 0.1:
- new GUI
- handle all tracks
- insim port configurable
- possibility to connect to a remote LFS
- frontend to create/modify cam files
-

22.10.2006, Version 0.0 (Demo):
- first test version
- just a study to test feasibility
- worked only with BL1
- all values hardcoded
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nesrulz · 22nd October 2006, 13:15

OMG! Thx Man!
Great!

kamo2000 · 22nd October 2006, 13:19

Yea worked great. Waiting for all tracks version.

alco64 · 22nd October 2006, 13:22

yeah this is a pretty nifty tool.

Is it possible to setup your own positions for the camera and what that camera would do?

-DrftMstr- · 22nd October 2006, 13:45

it says type command line [...] where do i do that? i'd like to try it out.
Thanks

Soeren Scharf · 22nd October 2006, 13:58

Quote:

it says type command line [...] where do i do that? i'd like to try it out.
Thanks

It would also be possible to start lfs and press button "t" to type a chat message and then write "/insim=32300" (without the ") into the chat message. After doing this you should see a "hello lfs..." message.

deggis · 22nd October 2006, 14:35

Preview video would be nice.

Btw, does this has to be used when LFS is in windowed mode? Similar program called "noobTV" has that drawback, I haven't tried this either but afaik LFS had be in windowed mode because otherwise you couldn't see the camera editing interface.

noobTV: http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.p...ght=tvdirector

Jakg · 22nd October 2006, 14:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by deggis

Preview video would be nice.

"Replay with a lot of action is also available. I have uploaded it, because it was one of the best races I have had on an open server, and it shows very well, what the tool is doing: http://home.arcor.de/soeren_scharf/lfs/TvTestDemo.zip"

EDIT - NVM - thats just an MPR!

Xaid0n · 22nd October 2006, 15:16

Preview: http://www.verzend.be/v/6409758/LFS_tv_cams.wmv.html

wheel4hummer · 22nd October 2006, 15:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by deggis

Preview video would be nice.

Btw, does this has to be used when LFS is in windowed mode?

Nope.

MataGyula · 22nd October 2006, 16:06

@Soeren Scharf
Good job ! I would love to see a version which lets you set up your own cameras with an easy interface within LFS ( like making routes for bot's in CS 1.5 with PODBot). BTW this tool kinda looks like a mixture of noobTV & some kind of "action detector"

deggis · 22nd October 2006, 16:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xaid0n

Preview: http://www.verzend.be/v/6409758/LFS_tv_cams.wmv.html

Looks great.

One more question, how much does it eat resources? It's pretty critical because it's already hard enough to record with good fps.

Xaid0n · 22nd October 2006, 17:30

well it isnt at all bad, although my game stutters alot when recording, it turns out ok on the final vid. I dont limit my fps when recording... (i get about 25 fps in lfs when recording) that comes out to about 30 fps on the avi.

nutty boy · 22nd October 2006, 18:06

How do i get back to the original shiftU layout after i've typed in the insim. I'm now stuck with the director.

Soeren Scharf · 22nd October 2006, 18:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by nutty boy

How do i get back to the original shiftU layout after i've typed in the insim. I'm now stuck with the director.

from the documentation insim.txt, there is the following description:

"You can shut down InSim completely and stop it listening at all by typing in
/insim=0 into the connected LFS."

nutty boy · 22nd October 2006, 18:42

It's not working.

I'm typing that and it's still in director mode.
Do I have to have director open whilst typing it for InSim to restart.

TagForce · 22nd October 2006, 19:12

Nice tool... Makes watching replays less boring.

I have a couple of feature requests, though... Hope you don't mind positive feedback

- Externally loaded track cams, so we can create our own trackside cams.
- More cameramovement. Even though it's a 1000% improvement over the 'perfect focus' in-game cams, it still looks a bit too perfect to look real.
- Carfocus override. I saw the leader for a grand total of 25 seconds. I would like to be able to switch to the leader with a single button.
- Fight focus, instead of car focus. It looks at a car, rather than a couple of cars, while when there's a fight on the television they'll focus the cam in between the cars or move back and forth between them.
- Avi export (hehe, probably beyond the scope of what you're doing). Freeze the replay (can be done in insim), and export each individual frame to an AVI stream.

Xaid0n · 22nd October 2006, 19:12

@ nutty
yer

1: open the director
2: open lfs start a BL1 replay and type /insim=32300 in the chat box.

simple

nutty boy · 22nd October 2006, 19:18

No, I know how to get the director on. I don't know how to get it off.

Also, my camera stays in one place and doesn't move at all. Why?

-DrftMstr- · 22nd October 2006, 19:18

very nice tool ! So, when are you going to make it for all the tracks? :P jk

i30i3i3y · 22nd October 2006, 21:19

Very nice tool. I'm quite intrigued as to how it decides what to show

. I used one of my own replays and I don't think it missed anything interesting done by me. Looking forward to an all tracks version, keep it up

.

wheel4hummer · 22nd October 2006, 21:34

The location of the cameras must be hard-coded, which is why it only works at blackwood.

Fischfix · 22nd October 2006, 22:12

AWSOME! i love this tool just now!

btw. IT WORKS ONLINE. i've just watched some live races and it is just awsome. you don't miss the action at all.

some suggestions:
the lapcounter should stick to the leading car, so commenting is easier to find out in which lap we are. at the moment it looks like it's just picking a random car for lapcount.
i also got the ISI packets error message when a new race starts online. (solfed by /insim=0, restarting the tool, insim=32300)

Keep the good work up!

+1 +1 +1

KiDCoDEa · 23rd October 2006, 02:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fischfix

i also got the ISI packets error message

OMG NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO THE FATAL BUG

JJ72 · 23rd October 2006, 03:27

Isn't this like bloody mega awesome

collinss · 23rd October 2006, 08:04

Awsome tool, well done!!

ZeroDexter · 23rd October 2006, 08:37

very nice tool, but there seems to be a bug: after watching a race I always have to turn off the director and start it again or it won't work in the next replay/race - camera just sits there in shift-u mode but doesn't do anything

also, to me it seems like it doesn't recognize a single car spinning or sliding, it only focusses on overtakes and cars touching, but i might be wrong there

other than that, great app

Fischfix · 23rd October 2006, 10:33

which tracks are you doing next, maybe you need some help with positioning the camera. tell me if so!

Xaid0n · 23rd October 2006, 10:37

I like this app

just too bad you cant place your own cams

xaotik · 23rd October 2006, 11:00

Excellent little app! My only suggestion is: parameterise it instead of hardcoding - an extensive config file (or set of files) would be great, that way everyone can make sets of camera positioning, etc and share. Also, some way of tracking "legit" pit entry/exit would be nice (not the telepitting naturally).

22nd October 2006, 13:15	#2 -
nesrulz S2 licensed Racername: SERT•nesrulz Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Serbia - Zemun Posts: 868	OMG! Thx Man! Great! __________________ Official Live for Speed translator Serbian Racing Team @ www.SERT-LFS.net

22nd October 2006, 13:19	#3 -
kamo2000 S2 licensed Racername: Kamo Join Date: May 2004 Location: Poland, Olsztyn Posts: 939	Yea worked great. Waiting for all tracks version. __________________

22nd October 2006, 13:22	#4 -
alco64 S2 licensed Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 184	yeah this is a pretty nifty tool. Is it possible to setup your own positions for the camera and what that camera would do?
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22nd October 2006, 13:45	#5 -
-DrftMstr- S2 licensed Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 467	it says type command line [...] where do i do that? i'd like to try it out. Thanks __________________
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22nd October 2006, 14:35	#7 -
deggis S2 licensed Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 6,133	Preview video would be nice. Btw, does this has to be used when LFS is in windowed mode? Similar program called "noobTV" has that drawback, I haven't tried this either but afaik LFS had be in windowed mode because otherwise you couldn't see the camera editing interface. noobTV: http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.p...ght=tvdirector Last edited by deggis; 22nd October 2006 at 14:40.

22nd October 2006, 15:16	#9 -
Xaid0n S2 licensed Racername: Bouncer132 Join Date: May 2006 Location: GB Posts: 2,757	Preview: http://www.verzend.be/v/6409758/LFS_tv_cams.wmv.html __________________ Xbox Gamertag - bouncer132 Last edited by Xaid0n; 22nd October 2006 at 15:22.

22nd October 2006, 16:06	#11 -
MataGyula S2 licensed Racername: mata Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Slovakia Posts: 791	@Soeren Scharf Good job ! I would love to see a version which lets you set up your own cameras with an easy interface within LFS ( like making routes for bot's in CS 1.5 with PODBot). BTW this tool kinda looks like a mixture of noobTV & some kind of "action detector" __________________ my LFS "creations" \| blog \| steam id \| signaturewtflol\| myfirstvideo -Nakkitartsani: I just found midget porn \/ -CasseBent: on your harddrive -Saumil: are you pretending it's childporn

22nd October 2006, 17:30	#13 -
Xaid0n S2 licensed Racername: Bouncer132 Join Date: May 2006 Location: GB Posts: 2,757	well it isnt at all bad, although my game stutters alot when recording, it turns out ok on the final vid. I dont limit my fps when recording... (i get about 25 fps in lfs when recording) that comes out to about 30 fps on the avi. __________________ Xbox Gamertag - bouncer132

22nd October 2006, 18:06	#14 -
nutty boy S2 licensed Racername: nuttyboy Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,652	How do i get back to the original shiftU layout after i've typed in the insim. I'm now stuck with the director.

22nd October 2006, 18:42	#16 -
nutty boy S2 licensed Racername: nuttyboy Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,652	It's not working. I'm typing that and it's still in director mode. Do I have to have director open whilst typing it for InSim to restart.

22nd October 2006, 19:12	#17 -
TagForce S2 licensed Racername: TagForce Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Utrecht Posts: 1,176	Nice tool... Makes watching replays less boring. I have a couple of feature requests, though... Hope you don't mind positive feedback - Externally loaded track cams, so we can create our own trackside cams. - More cameramovement. Even though it's a 1000% improvement over the 'perfect focus' in-game cams, it still looks a bit too perfect to look real. - Carfocus override. I saw the leader for a grand total of 25 seconds. I would like to be able to switch to the leader with a single button. - Fight focus, instead of car focus. It looks at a car, rather than a couple of cars, while when there's a fight on the television they'll focus the cam in between the cars or move back and forth between them. - Avi export (hehe, probably beyond the scope of what you're doing). Freeze the replay (can be done in insim), and export each individual frame to an AVI stream.

22nd October 2006, 19:12	#18 -
Xaid0n S2 licensed Racername: Bouncer132 Join Date: May 2006 Location: GB Posts: 2,757	@ nutty yer 1: open the director 2: open lfs start a BL1 replay and type /insim=32300 in the chat box. simple __________________ Xbox Gamertag - bouncer132

22nd October 2006, 19:18	#19 -
nutty boy S2 licensed Racername: nuttyboy Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,652	No, I know how to get the director on. I don't know how to get it off. Also, my camera stays in one place and doesn't move at all. Why?

22nd October 2006, 19:18	#20 -
-DrftMstr- S2 licensed Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 467	very nice tool ! So, when are you going to make it for all the tracks? :P jk __________________
-DrftMstr- S2 licensed Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 467

22nd October 2006, 21:19	#21 -
i30i3i3y S2 licensed Racername: Bobby Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 103	Very nice tool. I'm quite intrigued as to how it decides what to show . I used one of my own replays and I don't think it missed anything interesting done by me. Looking forward to an all tracks version, keep it up .

22nd October 2006, 22:12	#23 -
Fischfix S2 licensed Racername: [FM]Fischfix Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Austria Posts: 1,110	AWSOME! i love this tool just now! btw. IT WORKS ONLINE. i've just watched some live races and it is just awsome. you don't miss the action at all. some suggestions: the lapcounter should stick to the leading car, so commenting is easier to find out in which lap we are. at the moment it looks like it's just picking a random car for lapcount. i also got the ISI packets error message when a new race starts online. (solfed by /insim=0, restarting the tool, insim=32300) Keep the good work up! +1 +1 +1

23rd October 2006, 03:27	#25 -
JJ72 S2 licensed Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 3,985	Isn't this like bloody mega awesome
JJ72 S2 licensed Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 3,985

23rd October 2006, 08:04	#26 -
collinss S2 licensed Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 30	Awsome tool, well done!!
collinss S2 licensed Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 30

23rd October 2006, 08:37	#27 -
ZeroDexter S2 licensed Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 41	very nice tool, but there seems to be a bug: after watching a race I always have to turn off the director and start it again or it won't work in the next replay/race - camera just sits there in shift-u mode but doesn't do anything also, to me it seems like it doesn't recognize a single car spinning or sliding, it only focusses on overtakes and cars touching, but i might be wrong there other than that, great app
ZeroDexter S2 licensed Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 41

23rd October 2006, 10:33	#28 -
Fischfix S2 licensed Racername: [FM]Fischfix Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Austria Posts: 1,110	which tracks are you doing next, maybe you need some help with positioning the camera. tell me if so!

23rd October 2006, 10:37	#29 -
Xaid0n S2 licensed Racername: Bouncer132 Join Date: May 2006 Location: GB Posts: 2,757	I like this app just too bad you cant place your own cams __________________ Xbox Gamertag - bouncer132

23rd October 2006, 11:00	#30 -
xaotik S2 licensed Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 3,073	Excellent little app! My only suggestion is: parameterise it instead of hardcoding - an extensive config file (or set of files) would be great, that way everyone can make sets of camera positioning, etc and share. Also, some way of tracking "legit" pit entry/exit would be nice (not the telepitting naturally).
xaotik S2 licensed Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 3,073

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