Season 1 - Round 3 Kyoto GP Long

[Scoop]

1st qual sesion - friday 14 july at 21:00 cest
2nd qual sesion - saturday 15 july at 21:00 cest
Race time - sunday 16 july at 16:00 cest
Race duration: 3 hours

Race Replay
http://members.home.nl/kaspur/LFS-GT/LFS_GT_Round_3.rar

THE GRIDS

GT1
#1 Cyber FZR
#21 pod FZR
#10 n1 FXR
#26 [XFR] FZR
#32 dSRC FZR
#6 ITEK FXR

GT2
#2 Cyber UFR
#11 Ocrana XFR
#87 dSRC UFR
#9 CRC XFR
#62 [XFR] XFR
#7 ITEK XFR



Results of the first sesion of qual:
http://www.liveforspeed.ee/lfsgtkygpqual.png


Teams if u don't know youre driver line-up yet pls say if you're gona take part at all i wana see how many cars are going to be and maybe i can find more racers :)

http://www.cyxian.nl/lfsgt/3_kygptemp.jpg

[Vain]

The CRC XFR #09 will participate in the usual formation with me and Dr Dink.

Vain

[ferox.CHIEF TAOA]

pod - virtual racing is in

#1 Björn Behrens (ferox.CHIEF TAOA)
#2 Igor Schimpf (-rogi-)

[B11TME]

ITEK Racing Team

GT1:
#06: FXR

Drivers
1: K.Malsomson (B11TME)
2: S.Hilly (psymonhilly)

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GT2:
#07: XFR

Drivers
1: Jamie (Hardcoreobscure)
2: M.Dzalev (Yugo45)

[Michel 4AGE]

dSRC - digiServ Racing Club

#32 GT1 FZR:

- M Huisman (Michel 4AGE)
- C Shelter (Knick)

#87 GT2 UFR:

- A Stables (GenerAL)
- M Aid (eckh)

[Neokiller]

Cyber is in... we´ll announce our drivers during the next week :thumb:

[traxxion]

Cyber is in... we´ll announce our drivers during the next week :thumb:
Same for 1ST :nod:

[bobvanvliet]

Same here. RDR is checking holiday schedules as we speak ;)

(we'll want to enter the FZR/XRR/FXR class again).

[Vince]

Ocrana Racing GT2
car: XFR
Drivers: Vincent Staal (Vince)
Jeroen van den Berg (Jeronimo23)
Number #11

[bobvanvliet]

Sadly, everyone at RDR seems to be either on holiday or having no time due to different reasons, so we won't be there... :( :shrug:

Sorry for posting this so late, I was hoping we'd make it.


We look forward to enrolling in the next race however! :thumb:

[Neokiller]

#1 Cyber Racing FZR
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#2 Cyber Racing UFR
Uroš Belak - casper88
Miloš Miljković - Misko

not sure about GT1 yet

[agor]

Team XFR is in, still don't know 2nd xfr car driver...

#26 TeamXFR FZR
Goran Andreevski - agor
Marc Schreiber - nRcToretto

#62 TeamXFR XFR
Ari Härö - xenoa
???

[kalle]

#10 n1Racing

P. Chan
J. Mikkonen

[Scoop]

As u know teams tomorow is firday and the first qual sesion also that means last chance tomorow until qual starts to get youre drive line-ups together

[nesrulz]

SERT don't have 2nd driver.

CYA in next race!

[Sracer]

As Neo is not here i post the final lineups for the Cyber Racing

#1 FZR
M.Mikiver - prophet.est
A.Širocka - Rumiko

reserve- Sracer

#2 UFR
U.Belak - casper88
M.Miljković - Misko

[xenoa]

Heres the last driver....

#62 TeamXFR XFR
Drivers:
Ari Haro (xenoa)
Miki Lazarevksi (dime_miki)

[Neokiller]

well it goes like sracer post

good luck all

[Scoop]

15 min till first qual sesion teams

[traxxion]

#15 1ST » Racing - FZR can't race due to holiday season and therefore lack of available drivers.
#14 1ST » Racing - XFR will have:
Thomas "Thomm" Arends
René "TraXXion" van der Kooij

Good luck everyone.

[Scoop]

Ok quick rules for this event pls everyone READ THEM

1 - chating tolerence is ZERO even the smalest ":)" or "hi" will be penalised with a DT, the only ppl who can chat are the marshals and the ppl who say the "player join" message to theire team mates but these teams must first anounce that they are gona do this

2 - Cuting the yellow line on pit exit will be penalised with a DT penalty do not touch the yellow line.


*DT = Drive through penalty


I will have the results of the qual tomrow mornin cause now i really need to go to sleed have to go to work in 6 hours :shrug: goodbye

[Misko]

3 - In the chicanes keep at least 1 wheel on the black stuff or u will be penalised with a DTHm, so now we have to learn to drive that chicane again, 16 hours before the race. It will be stressful having to be careful about going 1cm wider on every lap since the penalty can loose us the race. And what if we do it by mistake? That one is not an easy corner to get it right. It would be very difficult for you to watch every driver on every lap for that and make quick judgements for each of the thousand and more cases (~70 laps times 16 cars). It's ridiculous!

Besides, cutting that chicane too much already penalizes us. In 1 hour long stint damage to suspension if cutting builds up quite a lot.

You really should've posted this rule earlier and think it through more thoroughly before making it.

[prophet.est]

I totally agree with Miško. I suggest we'd drop that rule..

[Vain]

I guess everyone already tries to evade the yellow-blue obstacles. So the rule should read "keep your wheels off the yellow-blue obstacles, repeated or deliberate violation of this rule will lead to a DT". That would be good to penalize cutters.

Also, and more importantly, running one wheel on the tarmac and one wheel on the curb will be extremely dangerous for XFRs. The car flips in 30-40% of all cases where you try that. Forcing the drivers to go that line will propably cause major pile-ups. So either both tyres on the curbs or no tyres on the curbs. Any regulation in between will cause havok.

Vain

[B11TME]

I think most will be avoiding cutting them anyway as it causes damage to the car.....I was going to do a 50 lap test run and those little bumps on the chicane damaged my car on the 18th laps and my suspension was damaged and car was undrivable. I think it would be unfair to start brining this rule into the race as its not doing the drivers any favours.

[Darkone55]

I think the rule should allow each driver to make 1 error. But, Misko, everyone needs to learn to drive it again then, so it's the same for everyone.

[Vain]

But learning it new creates errors. Flips. Havok.

I'd like to finish the race.

Vain

[Misko]

Well, we're already driving around the yellow-blue speedbumps to avoid damage, and if we miss few times and actually go over them we get a little damage but its still ok. We pay the price when car doesn't behave perfectly anymore and we get longer pitstop to repair that. So I don't think we need any more worries than that. Rule #3 means we have to worry about keeping wheels on the tarmac and fear how Scoop will interprete that (and also fear not to roll over like Vain said, though I haven't experienced that in that chicane in UFR).

[traxxion]

I agree on the weird chicane rule. I'm sure no-one comes out unharmed if he does it wrong more then two times... been there before, myself.

Anyway, unfortunately we'll also have to withdraw our XFR team due to lack of drivers. Again, good luck in the race everyone.

[Scoop]

as far as i can read u all say cuting the chicanes damages youre suspension and you are not gona do it in race, so what's the probleme with the rule?:really:

And to make it clear a penalty will be isued if we see a driver constantly cuting the chicanes and gaining advantages, those who go over the speed bumps by mistake will be let off of course

[B11TME]

The problem with the rule is if we make a mistake and end op doing it then you get a dt for it.

[Rumiko]

The problem with the rule is if we make a mistake and end op doing it then you get a dt for it.
He just said he wont penalize mistakes, only intentional systematic cutting.

[B11TME]

He just said he wont penalize mistakes, only intentional systematic cutting.

My point is how is he going to know if it was a mistake or not? If i do it 10 time in my stint how many drive throughs do i get for that lol.

[Scoop]

#1 Race has been postponed for 2 hours (race starts at 16:00 CEST) so that ppl can watch F1

#2 B11TME if u do it by mistake i can see it late braking sliding a bit if u do it on pourpose lap after lap then u're gona get a DT

[B11TME]

the corner is hard to judge...If i run wide i get a dt. Heh i think thats a little stupid.

[Scoop]

U do youre job and i will do myne and i won't penalise at every single cut if i see smthn suspiciouse i'm gona watch for a few laps to see if it was a mistake or if youre doing it on pourpose

[B11TME]

My job is trying to go fast and you job is stopping me from doing that or making me worrie about doing it :schwitz::razz: No matter

[Scoop]

Youre job is to keep the car on the track and not on the speed bumps :P

[agor]

TeamXFR car FZR #26
is about to retire before the start, coz medical problems so we are unable to do the race.Also we don't have any reserve and we will miss the race
:shrug:

U have a nice race :pillepall

[Scoop]

sorry to hear that u are still free to find a back-up driver anywhere if u want and if u do just anounce him here (this goes for all the teams that have driver prob atm u can find any driver, but not any n00b, just anounce him and u can race)

[Misko]

Scoop, problem is your deffinition of cutting. What is black stuff????

[Vince]

Updated Drivers:

Vincent ''Vince'' Staal
JP ''JeeP"' Feil

[Scoop]

It seams that some ppl just don't get the chicane cuting rule and i'm tired of explaining so i'm removing it u can cut all u like

[Misko]

What I'm saying is the curbs that are usually used as part of the track, like in this case. We drive with 4 wheels on the curb and NOT hit the speedbump. By your deffinition that still means cutting.

[Scoop]

just do what ever u want on those curbs now let's move on any other questions?

[Scoop]

Race starts in 30 min be there

Edit: 10 minutes to go

[Vain]

Great race everyone! :)

I'm glad my teammate managed to join on time so we won't recieve a penalty. :tilt:

But on a different matter: Was the "don't cut the pit-exit line from neither side"-rule also removed or was it still in effect?

Vain

[Scoop]

it was still in efect but i didn't see anyone cuting

[Scoop]

http://liveforspeed.ee/stats/LFSGT_Round3.html

Stats thank prophet for them :)


#32 finished 4th altho stats show him as DNF he finished 4th i duno what hapened with stats

[Scoop]

Standings:
http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=9282

Results of round 3:
http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=9281


I had a few complaints about some ppl crossing the yellow line on pit exit and after reviewing them i thought it wasn't necesary to penalise and even with a 30 sec penalty the final result would have been the same. But thanks for youre vigilance