Grip

[Riche]

I have just played the demo online and here are my thoughts.

Whats with all the sliding and no grip?>. Even with little throttle and low speed you continue to slide round wide corners and somtime the lack of grip in a straight line is appauling..

Ive been on serveral track days with a lotus 7 clone and your cars handle so poorly compared.

Nice graphics but unless you fix the car handling I wont be purchasing the full came.

Rich

[Fordman]

How about downloading a setup? there is plenty here.

[Theafro]

no offence but they're are a LOT of posts saying the same thing, just keep playing, try some sets and you'll get the hang, this is a very difficult game and nothing has ever come as close to reality as lfs has, i guess it's just starting to show the BIG gap between most games and a true sim like LFS, it's took me a year so far and i'm still not perfect, BUT i'm ALWAYS showing improvement, to me thats the sign of depth in a game.

having said that the tyres do need a little work but even when that's done there will still be peeps who have trouble. there always has been.
ever since s1 there have always been posts saying things like "how do i stop my car from spinning" etc it's just that the current focus seems to be on the (experimental) tyre model.

[dodo.ger]

and dont forget you are using road tyres only in demo. usually not that much grip. ;)

[AndroidXP]

Try the Easy Racing setups (http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=279) for the friendly but raceable setups or the Road Going setups (http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=278&highlight=sit+back) to compare them to your everyday drive.

Setups provided by Bob Smith

[amp88]

I have similar problems, but for me it's mainly caused by lack of an analogue controller. Are you using a digital controller (e.g. keyboard/digital game controller) or an analogue controller (e.g. wheel+pedals/analogue game controller) to play the game? If you're using a digital controller this is most likely the problem. Set ups can only go so far to solve something like this. If you're using an analogue controller then try applying the power more progressively (though I suspect this isn't the case since you say you've had track day experience).

[Hallen]

Also, most important... get the tires up to temp before pushing the car. Get the setups linked above. They are very good. I use them and I do respectible times with most of the cars (1:26.4x Blackwood GTT)

Use the F9 key to see the tire temps. The outer tred shows the surface temp. The inner part of the tire shows the internal temp. Optimally, you want to see a nice solid green. If you see red, the tire will be very slippery. If it is blue, the tire is cold and won't have a lot of grip.
Make a couple of easy laps first and get your tire temp up. Then start pushing a bit. I think you will find that there is more grip there than you think.
Also, don't just pound the gas to the floor when exiting the corner with the GTT. It will spin the wheels and you will spin. Ease into the gas. You will get the feel for it and you wil be able to push it harder.

[durbster]

You're right Riche, there is a problem with the physics in LFS but it's more complicated than simply a lack of grip. There are loads of threads on the subject already, but basically I think the concensus was that the problem lies with the ease at which the tyres break away, and then with how quickly they regain traction. It seems to affect the rears more than the fronts, for some reason, and you can end up drifting all over the place without much effort.

It can be frustrating when you know that what you might do in real life doesn't necessarily work in LFS, but you do get used to it eventually and learn to drive around the problems. Also, it's almost certain the problem will be fixed at some point since the devs are extremely responsive to the community.

The default setups are a bit iffy too, which seems to exaggerate the problem, so it's certainly worth finding some better ones.

Also, the FWD and proper racing cars in S2 (particularly the open-wheelers) don't seem to suffer from this problem as much, so they are a lot of fun and, to me, more rewarding to drive.

[Jouni Trogen]

Use the F9 key to see the tire temps. The outer tred shows the surface temp. The inner part of the tire shows the internal temp. Optimally, you want to see a nice solid green. If you see red, the tire will be very slippery. If it is blue, the tire is cold and won't have a lot of grip..

Add to this, dont drive on grass/dirt. You´ll get your tyres dirty and then they´ll get slippery. The little brown color (F9) indicates the dirt, with the tyres dirty, its slippery to drive. By keeping on the track for some time, you´ll see the dirt get cleaned up, and the grip get better.

[Woz]

Also press F9 and make sure your tires are not overheated.