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Kegetys
9th May 2006, 23:13
As discussed already in another thread, I made a little program that flashes the LEDs on Logitech MOMO and MOMO Racing based on events in LFS using OutGauge.
You can get it from my LFS site at http://www.kegetys.net/lfs/. It can be configured to display the shift light, handbrake, pitspeed limiter, tc, low fuel, RPM's, etc. individually for both leds and separately for all cars.
Note that it is somewhat experimental, I found the HID command to control the lights by half-accident, I do not have any documentation for the actual interface so there is a chance that something bad might happen for you. So if it blows up your wheel or opens a portal to hell or something, don't blame me, you have been warned. It works fine for me and a few "beta testers" though so it should be reasonably safe.
Also, while the light control seems to work on the DFP by changing the device ID, apparently the DFP drivers or the firmware control the lights all the time so it will only dimly flash the lights and thus is pretty much useless with them.
Huru-aito
9th May 2006, 23:19
Nice work, now I need to change the LEDs on my wheel to some other color...
dawesdust_12
9th May 2006, 23:31
Maybe if some daring coder could, they could make a GUI to customize ALL cars for it?
KiDCoDEa
9th May 2006, 23:34
good work as usual.
Shotglass
10th May 2006, 00:03
so who dares to try this on his dfp first ?
datsun dude
10th May 2006, 04:03
lol ohh no it open a portal to hell
alco64
10th May 2006, 04:11
Excellent little program Kegetys :):)
Works a treat. Thanks alot for this.
traxxion
10th May 2006, 07:25
Wow Kegetys, great idea, can't wait to give it a try tonight!
Edit: will it work on the Red MOMO?
inCogNito
10th May 2006, 08:18
sounds great :thumb:, it's a shame it doesn't work with the dfp :(
ldriver
10th May 2006, 08:21
That's just brilliant:thumb:
Vykos69
10th May 2006, 09:02
wooohoo, first test just worked. THAT rox, Kegetys!!
Darkone55
10th May 2006, 09:07
Wow, this is great! Only problem, I had LED1 on when I need to brake, but then I forget to look to the road.. :P
But, that gauge thing, could that work on any device with LEDs or anything in it? Like a Nokia N-gage? :P
Blackout
10th May 2006, 09:15
Very smart thingy, this could be a mod I actually find use. Great work :thumb:
Tweaker
10th May 2006, 09:33
I think I will try this for my Red MOMO.
However, I only have one working LED, the right one. The left one needs some fixing or something, I may have to open the piece up for the first time and check the connections. It just kind of has a loose connection and flickers sometimes.. so it wouldn't be a good idea to have that one as my shift light :D
BTW, Kegetys, I noticed in that one-handed preview video of yours, at the end you hit the metal wall and it makes a metal scratch/ding noise. Is that something you did??? :) (Also what was that cuckoo clock sound in the background, lol)
falcon5
10th May 2006, 09:56
This is just great! Works perfectly on my Momo Force. Thank you very much! :thumb:
traxxion
10th May 2006, 10:06
BTW, Kegetys, I noticed in that one-handed preview video of yours, at the end you hit the metal wall and it makes a metal scratch/ding noise. Is that something you did??? :) (Also what was that cuckoo clock sound in the background, lol)
I've also seen that vid, but can't find it anymore, anyone got a link please?
look at his previous posts... i think it was in the keyboard-flashing thingy thread, secondly, can your make this configuarble (ie, flash for pitlimiter, on for tc, one on the right for shift up etc)
Kegetys
10th May 2006, 11:10
BTW, Kegetys, I noticed in that one-handed preview video of yours, at the end you hit the metal wall and it makes a metal scratch/ding noise. Is that something you did??? :) (Also what was that cuckoo clock sound in the background, lol)
It's some old sound mod I made out of the crash sound effects from RBR. Dunno about cuckoo clock sounds, maybe the shifter whining? (I need to fix that someday...)
sgt.flippy
10th May 2006, 11:49
Wow Kegetys, great idea, can't wait to give it a try tonight!
Edit: will it work on the Red MOMO?
It was my idea :really::)
But I'm too stupid to make it, so I'm glad he did... too bad it's for momo, I want it for dfp too :(
wheeler
10th May 2006, 12:00
does it work with the Logitech Wingman Formula Force? I thought the share the same components/drivers with Momo steer?
sgt.flippy
10th May 2006, 12:42
try and hope it doesn't wreck your wheel :D
I take no blaim if that happens :really:
hrtburnout
10th May 2006, 13:08
does it work with the Logitech Wingman Formula Force? I thought the share the same components/drivers with Momo steer?
It doesn't have leds, does it? :really:
Tweaker
10th May 2006, 13:09
Yeah that wheel doesn't have LEDs at all. Friend owns it. It is as plain as white bread :)
lehegarat
10th May 2006, 13:14
Awsome, thanks!
Lible
10th May 2006, 13:35
Very good, thanks! Works with Red MOMO.
falcon5
10th May 2006, 13:53
The Logitech Wingman Formula Force does indeed have 2 LEDs. Just like the Momo Force. It is the old red one. Not the GP or EX version. Take a look at this picture.
http://www.free-ftp.org/jensschumi/images/Manual/DCP01118.JPG
ATHome
10th May 2006, 14:23
Would be cool it that would work with the DFP :(
Absolutely great. :thumb:
Vain
sgt.flippy
10th May 2006, 14:47
Just to confirm, it does NOT work on DFP. Every setting just makes the leds blimp off for just a millisecond with no really meaning to it, just makes it look like it has some power shortige. I hope someone comes up with a program to make it work on the dfp, it must be possible, because the lights do blink a little with no effect to the working of the wheel (as far as I can notice). I tried the light on and off mode to be sure, but it just kept doing the same thing.
Kegetys
10th May 2006, 15:05
I updated it a bit to version 1.1, you can now have two actions for each LED with logical XOR/OR operations. (So, for example you can have one LED work as a shift light and make it flash when the speed limiter is on). There's also a new actions for flashing low fuel light and a flashing shift light.
dragon13
10th May 2006, 15:13
it works
Ketegy - it cant find my Wingman Formula Force, which controller ID do i have to use? I can take screenies of things you want me to.
alco64
10th May 2006, 16:27
EXCELLENT WORK once again Kegetys. 1.1 is even better now.
I was going to suggest something like duel usage of 1 LED but you've beat me to it.
Really liking this mod. Can't wait what you'll do next whether it's another version of this or something else they're just brilliant.
Keep up the good work mate :)
sgt.flippy
10th May 2006, 16:30
Isn't there really anyone with programming skills or whatever, that has acces to a DFP that can make this for this wheel too? :shrug:
It gives me pain to my heart seeing everyone (lotta people that is) is enjoying my idea except myself :(
Micron88
10th May 2006, 16:36
Isn't there really anyone with programming skills or whatever, that has acces to a DFP that can make this for this wheel too? :shrug:
It gives me pain to my heart seeing everyone (lotta people that is) is enjoying my idea except myself :(
yeah dfp support would be nice
Kegetys
10th May 2006, 16:44
Ketegy - it cant find my Wingman Formula Force, which controller ID do i have to use? I can take screenies of things you want me to.
The DeviceID can be found in Windows XP from the device manager, the wheel should be under Human Interface Devices. In the properties go to the details page and in some of the properties it says something like VID_XXXX PID_XXXX, the VID is the manufacturer ID (0x046D is Logitech) and the PID is the device ID. Then just convert the hexadecimal value into decimal with windows calculator for example. Note however that I have no idea if it will work with that wheel anyway.
For DFP the best bet might be for someone to ask the Wingman team if there is some HID command to disable the internal LED control from the wheel or the driver, which would be my best bet on why it doesn't work with it (It appears the command does turn the led on/off but the wheel will just immediately put it back to what it was)...
bo-kristiansen
10th May 2006, 16:47
yeah dfp support would be nice
yep... would be good finally get some use of those leds.
someone make pleaase pleaase :D
- I will use it for upshifting rpm thingie.
..would be soo coool.
- and then maybe replace the green leds with red types. :scratchch
Thorvertonian
10th May 2006, 16:58
Works perfect on my MOMO, would be nice to have it in a package so it starts up and can mnimise to the taskbar, rather than a DOS window...
But thanks for the util!!!
sgt.flippy
10th May 2006, 17:13
You can make a little batch file, it will open anything for you that you put in it, and it's not that hard to do. I used to have it for GTA, so it could start weather mod, GTA itself and Steering controllers.
It's primitive, but it does everything you need :) Google for it, you'll find it if you look right.
letek
10th May 2006, 17:24
WONDERFUL:thumb:
Micron88
10th May 2006, 17:28
here is a little vid of the bf1. http://www.cghost.de/%7EDarkstar/1.avi (DivX) it looks nice.
i wish it would work with the dfp.
You can make a little batch file, it will open anything for you that you put in it, and it's not that hard to do. I used to have it for GTA, so it could start weather mod, GTA itself and Steering controllers.
It's primitive, but it does everything you need :) Google for it, you'll find it if you look right.erm, help! i googled, but it didnt work!
well, the " marks were screwing things up, but the file path to lfs is G:\Live For Speed\Actual Program\Live For Speed\LFS.exe , yet when i put this in it has a problem with the spaces. What should i do?
Micron88
10th May 2006, 18:03
try this:
@echo off
start LFSmomoLeds.exe
start LFS.exe
Exit
hrtburnout
10th May 2006, 18:18
Kegetys, I've found (i think) the right number. Is this what I have to find?
USB\VID_046D&PID_C298\5&36469A40&0&2
And the ID would be C298\5&36469A40&0&2 ?
aLexusPro
10th May 2006, 18:27
Wonderfull MOD! Best, i think!
One moment: is it possible to count level of fuel by laps? I mean, is it possible to get consumption of fuel?
[%_of_fuel_left] / [consumption] = [laps_left] it is more usefull parameter then simple [%_of_fuel_left].
Anyway, thanks a lot!
It can be great to insert this mod into final S2 code!
Darkone55
10th May 2006, 18:27
Kegetys, I've found (i think) the right number. Is this what I have to find?
And the ID would be C298\5&36469A40&0&2 ?
No, only the C298. So that makes 49816. :)
Micron88
10th May 2006, 18:28
USB\VID_046D&PID_C298\5&36469A40&0&2 thats the number.
start the calculator and look @ the attachment.
sgt.flippy
10th May 2006, 18:39
try this:
@echo off
start LFSmomoLeds.exe
start LFS.exe
Exit
Doesn't solve the problem of LFS minimising and need to open it again. Doesn't bother me tho, I now use the batch to start profiler, minimised, set lfs for high priority, that's all I need.
If you have the problem of spacing in your path name, just do this:
start "Live For speed" "Path"
The first brackets give it a name (so it doesn't confuse the name with the path, better give it a name, isn't important), then you enter the path also between brackets, and that should fix that problem.
nfsjunkie91
10th May 2006, 18:46
Can you do this for the keyboard? I race with a ps2ish controller, with my keyboard right there, and having the lights on my keyboard go would be awesome.
sgt.flippy
10th May 2006, 18:49
That was the original idea :D
Oh yea, apparently it isn't a good idea to start lfs together with the profiler, because the profiler doesn't fire up lfs, it doesn't do anything. So I'm back to square one here.
I almost panicked here, after all this stuff my wheel didn't react anymore to the buttons. I could give gass and turn, but couldn't shift... Luckily a restart and recalibration solved it :)
try this:
@echo off
start LFSmomoLeds.exe
start LFS.exe
Exit:bowdown:woo! i love you! :x
i mean that in a perfectly straight way... :saythat:
Does not work with old Wingman Formula Force, now you know.
HiTTeR
11th May 2006, 00:50
Incredible its work perfect in my black momo thx man its very good :D :thumb:
mrodgers
11th May 2006, 03:07
Just wanted to post here and say thank you to Kegetys for destroying my motorcycle. See, after seeing how cool just the LED on the Momo lighting for the shift light is, I just HAD to try out other stuff and ripped the gauges off the motorcycle to connect to the PC!!! Now I can't ride my motorcycle!! Hehehe.
Seriously, this is really cool. The shift light is now "in your face" and no way to miss it. I don't know what to use the other LED for, but I want it lighting for something. I don't use the pit limiter enough, nor do I use TC since I don't race the BF1.
And, the gauge pack on my bike would be really cool for sim racing. 14,000 rpm tach (again, no need for BF1 for me) and I think a 160 mph speedo with big oil, overdrive, high beam, and neutral lights all in a neat little package.
dawesdust_12
11th May 2006, 06:35
If someone could create a Dashboard for sale, that worked in LFS, that would be awesome, especially to complement my future purchase of the G15 wheel :)
sil3ntwar
11th May 2006, 08:01
Doesnt work on my Logitech Wingman Formula (not force). Good idea though!
mrodgers
11th May 2006, 11:18
If someone could create a Dashboard for sale, that worked in LFS, that would be awesome, especially to complement my future purchase of the G15 wheel :)
I think I saw someone who made an interface for Audi/VW gauges over at RSC's controller forum recently.
BlakjeKaas
11th May 2006, 14:28
When does it work, cause i downloaded it, i did:
[default]
LED1=1
LED2=10
lowFuel=0.02
saved it...
opened momoled
played LFS
nothing happened with lights?
why..?
NotAnIllusion
11th May 2006, 14:33
Have you enabled OutGauge, and do you have MOMOLEDS & OutGauge on the same port, and if you have the red MOMO did you change the DeviceID?
LED1=1 <-- is correct, if it doesn't work it's probably something to do with your OutGauge settings.
BlakjeKaas
11th May 2006, 14:37
how to enable outgauge?
how to put them on the same port?
I have momo racing :D
LED1=1 doesn't woek too...
NotAnIllusion
11th May 2006, 14:40
Enabling OutGauge:
Find cfg.txt in your LFS folder, at the bottom you have lines that look something like
OutGauge Mode 0 :0-off 1-driving 2-driving+replay
OutGauge Delay 1 :minimum delay between packets (100ths of a sec)
OutGauge IP 0.0.0.0 :IP address to send the UDP packet
OutGauge Port 0 :IP port
OutGauge ID 0 :if not zero, adds an identifier to the packet
Change them to:
OutGauge Mode 1
OutGauge IP 127.0.0.1
OutGauge Port 56551
BlakjeKaas
11th May 2006, 14:53
still nothing... :(
but do you have to change:
OutGauge Mode 0 :0-off 1-driving 2-driving+replay
OutGauge Delay 1 :minimum delay between packets (100ths of a sec)
OutGauge IP 0.0.0.0 :IP address to send the UDP packet
OutGauge Port 0 :IP port
OutGauge ID 0 :if not zero, adds an identifier to the packet
to
OutGauge Mode 1
OutGauge IP 127.0.0.1
OutGauge Port 56551
or do you must change
this
OutGauge Mode 0 :0-off 1-driving 2-driving+replay
OutGauge IP 0.0.0.0 :IP address to send the UDP packet
OutGauge Port 0 :IP port
to
OutGauge Mode 1
OutGauge IP 127.0.0.1
OutGauge Port 56551
BlakjeKaas
11th May 2006, 14:54
cause i haven't deleted the 2 that you don't have to chagne...
NotAnIllusion
11th May 2006, 14:58
Make sure the OutGauge lines in your LFS\cfg.txt look exactly like in the attached image. There's nothing more to it, the port is what MOMOLEDS uses by default, so if you haven't changed the port in MOMOLEDS config it will work.
BlakjeKaas
11th May 2006, 15:03
COOL!
it works! (and it's not an illusion)
that was the coolest joke ever
ATHome
11th May 2006, 17:55
Is it possible to make a similar app for the keyboards LEDs ?
At least a low fuel light would be cool...
Supra226
11th May 2006, 17:59
pls here teach me how to make what mean LED 1 or
2 3 4 5 how to make
Oliv76000
11th May 2006, 20:54
Thanks Kegetys for the excellent program:)
Thanks too NotAnIllusion for you help to configure it.
sgt.flippy
11th May 2006, 21:00
Is it possible to make a similar app for the keyboards LEDs ?
At least a low fuel light would be cool...
When your fuel is getting low press CAPS Lock. When pitting press it again.
P1lot
11th May 2006, 21:43
Excellent little prog, Kegetys!
Some suggestions if I may be so impertinent;
Have different lowfuel values for constant LED and flashing LED. That way it would be possible to have an LED come on at say 5% and flash at 2%.
Can the prog sense when LFS is not running? Might be handy to have it flash an LED when I forget to switch wheel power supply off :)
TagForce
11th May 2006, 22:49
Ok, honestly this is the first time ever I regret having a DFP and a Wingman Formula Force, and not the MOMO.
wheel4hummer
11th May 2006, 22:51
I don't have my DFP yet. It's supposed to arrive tommorow. I can't wait. But, I have no way of playing GT4 with it, because I wouldn't have anywhere to mount it.
BWX232
12th May 2006, 07:57
Wow awesome program... I have a momo but use my DFP..
I was thinking.. since the DFP overrides the command this program uses to control the leds... (or switches control back to the DFP instantly)-
I wonder if it would be possible to just modify this program to control the LEDS on a DFP 100 times a second or something like that.. or more frequently.. so it does it faster than the DFP takes back control..
Maybe a work-a-round so it could work for that wheel?
TagForce
12th May 2006, 10:01
Wow awesome program... I have a momo but use my DFP..
I was thinking.. since the DFP overrides the command this program uses to control the leds... (or switches control back to the DFP instantly)-
I wonder if it would be possible to just modify this program to control the LEDS on a DFP 100 times a second or something like that.. or more frequently.. so it does it faster than the DFP takes back control..
Maybe a work-a-round so it could work for that wheel?
I've already asked the Wingmanteam if it's possible to override the driver or firmware LED control... Awaiting an answer.
ATHome
12th May 2006, 15:03
When your fuel is getting low press CAPS Lock. When pitting press it again.
Bwahahahaha... you're so funny...
No, not really... :really:
BWX232
12th May 2006, 15:49
I've already asked the Wingmanteam if it's possible to override the driver or firmware LED control... Awaiting an answer.
Well I meant more overwhelming it rather than overriding it.. but not sure exactly how the software works.. I noticed they says they could affect the LEDs, just they instantly switched back to default.. I was thinking of just overwhelming it with commands to get the desired affect.. Just an idea.. probably wouldn't work anyway.
TagForce
12th May 2006, 16:58
Well I meant more overwhelming it rather than overriding it.. but not sure exactly how the software works.. I noticed they says they could affect the LEDs, just they instantly switched back to default.. I was thinking of just overwhelming it with commands to get the desired affect.. Just an idea.. probably wouldn't work anyway.
And I asked them so we wouldn't have to force anything... DOSing hardware is often not a good plan, because the timing is going to be a problem, and it would probably have a bad effect on the normal working of the wheel (let's say it does one request every 0.001 second, and you send a led signal every 0.002 seconds, that slows the device down by 50%).
sgt.flippy
12th May 2006, 17:00
Bwahahahaha... you're so funny...
No, not really... :really:
I said that because if you looked close enough, and read the whole thread, you would know this actually is a result of a thread about having the leds on the KEYBOARD light up... So go ask it again there instead of here :shrug: This one is about leds on the momo, and maybe other wheels, not for the keyboard, that was the other one about.
BWX232
12th May 2006, 21:05
And I asked them so we wouldn't have to force anything... DOSing hardware is often not a good plan, because the timing is going to be a problem, and it would probably have a bad effect on the normal working of the wheel (let's say it does one request every 0.001 second, and you send a led signal every 0.002 seconds, that slows the device down by 50%).
DOSing hardware-- LOL- yeah I guess that's what it would be..
Well hopefully Logitech will help.. I am not holding my breath though.. they are cool guys but not sure if they will help.
TagForce
12th May 2006, 22:38
DOSing hardware-- LOL- yeah I guess that's what it would be..
Well hopefully Logitech will help.. I am not holding my breath though.. they are cool guys but not sure if they will help.
Got an answer... I think if he knew it were possible he'd help...
I don't think the LEDs are controllable through the host, unlike with the other wheels... sorry :/
BWX232
12th May 2006, 23:25
DOS attack those LEDS!! LOL.... just try it! Maybe a "reasonable" DOS attack? Just for a test? I dunno- it's all my beady brain could think of.
Would have been a funny experiment anyway. :x
TagForce
13th May 2006, 07:09
DOS attack those LEDS!! LOL.... just try it! Maybe a "reasonable" DOS attack? Just for a test? I dunno- it's all my beady brain could think of.
Would have been a funny experiment anyway. :x
Well, it seems that's one of 2 options we have left... The other being a firmware update since it's not the drivers controlling the leds...
Thanks for the info about *our* firmware ;) I know that none of my driver code writes out LED commands, so it must be the firmware itself then. The way it worked in older wheels (pre-DFP era) is the the host told the wheel, "take your hands off the LEDs, I'll control them now", and from that point on, the firmware would not change the state no matter what it thought. However, this does not seem to apply to the DFP which imposes its own will onto the LEDs, even if the host has told it to do something else.
Interesting concept to have "additional" LED output for various different events. It would be quite simple to make an LED-only device, or maybe one with a few extra buttons...
BWX232
13th May 2006, 08:31
Wow that's cool- maybe if they do help you out with the firmware thing.. you can figure out a way to hack the wheel to overdrive the motor for faster top speed! Maybe even lessen the torque to make up for it so it doesn't burn up the electronics.. Who knows if that stuff is controllable through firmware or if it is strictly hardware..
Anyway that's O/T.... but in a way not really because if you guys find stuff out about changing low level things like that, maybe you can also tweak other parameters! Very exiting actually. :tilt:
Natnek
13th May 2006, 20:27
A small video of the working Momo leds ,
http://media.putfile.com/MOMO_leds
What a great addon :thumb: , i will use it for Low Fuel, not like the video for de RPM. Just fun to use.....
BWX232
14th May 2006, 06:14
A small video of the working Momo leds ,
http://media.putfile.com/MOMO_leds
What a great addon :thumb: , i will use it for Low Fuel, not like the video for de RPM. Just fun to use.....
That video doesn't work- just says "connecting" and then that damn site hangs IE.. when you try to shut the window it crashes all IE windows. :scratchch
sgt.flippy
14th May 2006, 09:37
Works fine, but I use firefox. But the video ain't that great, it's almost the same as the previous ones... showing how the leds work. Just in a different matter. But always nice to have another addition :)
BWX232
14th May 2006, 10:41
Yeah I tried it again and it froze IE6 until it finally connected (about 2 minutes).. I just waited for it to connect.. I dunno why that site sometimes locks up IE.. it has happened before.
Anyway, yeah I like the way that works.. very cool.. seems like Logitech could pretty cheaply put a bunch more LEDs on there for this exact reason.
TagForce
14th May 2006, 23:58
Yeah I tried it again and it froze IE6 until it finally connected (about 2 minutes).. I just waited for it to connect.. I dunno why that site sometimes locks up IE.. it has happened before.
Anyway, yeah I like the way that works.. very cool.. seems like Logitech could pretty cheaply put a bunch more LEDs on there for this exact reason.
Actually, logitech is saying it's not doing that for precisely that reason :)
It's pretty cheap, so you can do it yourself.
XCNuse
15th May 2006, 00:01
would use it if i could figure out how it works.. but besides that, thats whats not really bothering me, it shatters my fps by about 20 fps
BWX232
15th May 2006, 12:03
Actually, logitech is saying it's not doing that for precisely that reason :)
It's pretty cheap, so you can do it yourself.
Put more LEDs on the steering wheel is easy? I don't think so.. Not without tearing up the wheel.
TagForce
15th May 2006, 18:12
Put more LEDs on the steering wheel is easy? I don't think so.. Not without tearing up the wheel.
That's prolly another reason... People do this themselves, mess up their wheel, and buy another one.
wheeler
15th May 2006, 21:04
too bad I can't figure out why it's not working with correct HID device ID... do you need any more info kegetys to let it work on Logitech Formula Force (with ff). I can't imagine it's not working cos it's using same drivers as Momo.
Kegetys
15th May 2006, 21:50
too bad I can't figure out why it's not working with correct HID device ID... do you need any more info kegetys to let it work on Logitech Formula Force (with ff). I can't imagine it's not working cos it's using same drivers as Momo.
Odd that it doesn't find the device at all... Try running this (http://junk.kegetys.net/HIDlist.zip), it should list all HID devices it finds with their device ID's etc.
wheeler
16th May 2006, 04:54
it says: Init HID...HID GUID: 4D1E55B2
Kegetys
16th May 2006, 12:22
And nothing else? That's really odd, it would mean it gets stuck somewhere while going through the devices (It should at least say 'done.' at the end)... I have no idea what might be causing that though :shrug:
wheeler
17th May 2006, 09:09
Tonight I will try it again, maybe I install other drivers as well.
Kike_MoMo
17th May 2006, 11:58
Great Great tool Kegetys :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: I tried and works ok
A question: Its possible to transfer information between LFS an a PDA in real time ? (palm OS or windows mobile)
Thanks for you works (pitspotter, rbr dll...)
(http://www.lfsforum.net/member.php?u=48546)
wheeler
17th May 2006, 18:21
Kegetys, I got this now:
Init HID...HID GUID: 4D1E55B2
Device 0: VendorID: 0x046D (1133), DeviceID: 0xC291 (49809), Version 0x1
done.
I tried different things but it seems it has same problem as DFP: the leds won't go off.
Powered by AMD[ARG]
20th May 2006, 03:25
I can make this program find my Wingman Formula Force (the same as in page 1 of this thread):
http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/3329/last0hw.jpg
I had to check my ID and convert it from Hex to dec and edit the Momo leds cfg file, but when i was happy that it was correctly recognized, I started LFS and nothing happens, my leds are always on, as usual.
May you be able to make a change in the program for me and the other people with my wheel take advantage of our leds?
Thanks and great program... I want the Logitech G25 to available Now :)
Kegetys
20th May 2006, 08:28
It might be impossible to control the leds on that wheel, or the command could just be different, but I have no means to find out what it possibly could be
wheeler
22nd May 2006, 12:30
after some research I think the lights on the Logitech Formula Force just can't be controlled. Left LED is when there's power and right LED is when USB is connected so I think the program won't work at all.
Thanks to Kegetys anyway, let's hope future racesteers will have configurable LED's.
SparkyDave
30th May 2006, 14:03
[quote=wheeler] Left LED is when there's power and right LED is when USB is connected so I think the program won't work at all.
quote]
Thats the same as the momo's so with the ID No you should be able to get it working .
Installed this app last night awsome just awsome work great add on ;)
SD.
mpracer
30th May 2006, 19:06
I made a little program that....
a small step for a man a great step for car simulation
Thank you for this FIRST step and thanks LFS to give you this opportunity :thumb:
funkdancer
3rd June 2006, 06:21
First of all, this is a totally awesome mod. I had taped over the leds as they were just annoying, but now they have a real function and the tape is gone. It makes it so much easier to know what's going on.
The only problem I have is that I also discovered the great pitspotter program. When enabling that with /insim 29999 it also disables outgage and therefore momo leds.
How can I run both at the same time? Can I?? Many thanks!
Freddy_P
3rd June 2006, 22:12
How can I use MOMO LED's with JOIN2LFS ?
This is into the Join2LFS.config:
[SETTINGS]
InSim=
LFSDelay=0
CheckUpdates=1
LastUpdate=03.06.2006
mpracer
4th June 2006, 14:07
How can I use MOMO LED's with JOIN2LFS ?
This is into the Join2LFS.config:
[SETTINGS]
InSim=
LFSDelay=0
CheckUpdates=1
LastUpdate=03.06.2006
It's very easy. Just start Join2LFS, click on setting and add the executable path of momoleds into program file.
The join2lfs.config doesn't show the program you start before to join.
that's all
mrodgers
4th June 2006, 15:15
The only problem I have is that I also discovered the great pitspotter program. When enabling that with /insim 29999 it also disables outgage and therefore momo leds.
How can I run both at the same time? Can I?? Many thanks!
I left both pitspotter and the led program set the way it was installed and I use both :shrug: . It doesn't matter if I start pitspotter or the led proggy first, works every time.
And BTW, pitspotter starts LFS in the config file so I don't have to manually start LFS.
Agarash
23rd June 2006, 05:56
This mod does not work for me. My problem is that MOMOLeds bypasses my cycling commands binds in Logitech Profiler in version 4.40 and in version 4.60 the MOMOLeds bypasses my paddle axes :-/
However the MOMOLeds itself works well.
-Win XP SP2
-MOMO Racing
-MOMOLeds 1.1
-changes in cfg.txt
OutGauge Mode 1
OutGauge Delay 1
OutGauge IP 127.0.0.1
OutGauge Port 56551
EDIT: It stared to work well, somehow... I haven't done any changes to anything :-)
Sven Menkhoff
22nd July 2006, 20:06
The download wonīt work for me, i only get a broken file. :shrug:
Sven Menkhoff
23rd July 2006, 12:11
*bump*
Is there really nobody who got this tool?
I canīt believe that.
Please help me out guys.
greez Sven
dEiCidE
23rd July 2006, 14:29
momoled
Sven Menkhoff
23rd July 2006, 15:10
Thank you much.
DRFT KING
24th July 2006, 02:43
nice little program to make use of thos momo LEDs :) Thankx heaps
Sven Menkhoff
24th July 2006, 09:30
I need some help for some functions.
Iīm german, and i donīt know that: "Fullbeam" should be.
And the "Oil Warn", i know what Oil-warn means, but i have no idea for what i can need it in LFS. There is no Oil anywhere. Not on the Track, even no Oil-Tems.
So i hope somebody can tell me, for what are these functions.
sry for my bad english.
greez Sven
Tweaker
24th July 2006, 09:35
@Sven -- Probably for later, when Scawen makes LFS simulate oil temps.
Vain
24th July 2006, 09:52
@Fullbeam:
Use online dictionaries like this (http://www.dict.cc/?s=full%20beam) when you don't know how to translate a word.
Vain
Sven Menkhoff
24th July 2006, 10:40
@Fullbeam:
Use online dictionaries like this (http://www.dict.cc/?s=full%20beam) when you don't know how to translate a word.
Vain
THX, i tryed the leo.org translater, and it couldnīt tell me that itīs for the lights.
Probably for later,
can somebody tell me for what it is, for sure?
I wanna write a Tutorial for this Tool in german, and there i would preffer to know what i write. Not only think what it can be.
George Kuyumji
19th August 2006, 17:48
Could somebody please help? I have the black MOMO and this thing doesnt work for me.
I have 4,60 drivers on the wheel and I changed my cfg configs to:
OutGauge Mode 1
OutGauge Delay 1
OutGauge IP 127.0.0.1
OutGauge Port 56551
OutGauge ID 0
In the momoleds file I have:
[config]
; outGaugePort: Port to listen to for OutGauge packets
; deviceID: Device ID of the wheel (51715 = MOMO Racing (0xCA03), 49813 = MOMO (0xC295))
; deviceNum: Device number (if you have multiple wheels of the same type)
; speedlimitFlashTime: Flash delay of flashing pitlane speed limiter (ms)
; shiftlightFlashTime: Flash delay of flashing shift light (ms)
; lowfuelFlashTime: Flash delay of flashing low fuel light (ms)
outGaugePort=56551
deviceID=51715
deviceNum=0
speedlimitFlashTime=200
shiftlightFlashTime=100
lowfuelFlashTime=1000
; LED settings below, if car specifig settings are not found, the default ones are used
; LED actions:
; 0 = Always off
; 1 = Shift light
; 2 = Handbrake
; 3 = Pitspeed limiter
; 4 = Flashing pitspeed limiter
; 5 = Left signal
; 6 = Right signal
; 7 = Redline
; 8 = Oil warn
; 9 = Fullbeam
; 10 = Low fuel
; 11 = Traction control
; 12 = Flashing shiftlight
; 13 = Flashing low fuel light
; 14 = Always on
; >100 = RPM light
; For primary actions negative values negate the light state.
; For secondary actions (LED1b, LED2b) negative value means
; an OR operation and positive a XOR operation.
[default]
LED1=1
LED2=11
LED1b=12
LED2b=12
lowFuel=0.05
[bf1]
LED1=6000
LED2=7000
LED1b=1
LED2b=1
When I run the little Program it says it has found the HID device and is ready for Outgage data.
However, in the Game the LED lights turn on occasionally and unrelated to the redline or RPM limiter. When I go into the PC System Settings the MOMO is under the USB HID with the number:
HID\VID_046D&PID_CA03\6&1280A016&0&0000
USB\VID_046D&PID_CA03\5&6C122E&0&1
What is wrong?
vrooom
20th August 2006, 02:45
Can you use this to turn off the led while racing in darkness.....:sleep2:
beefyman666
20th August 2006, 06:05
I'm using a Logitech Formula Force EX and I was wondering if there is anyway of using the power light as a shift light? Similar way to the MOMO LED's but with just the one light.
Thorvertonian
20th August 2006, 08:02
Can you use this to turn off the led while racing in darkness.....:sleep2:
Yes you can, can edit the cfg file to use no lights and there you go, both LED's are off, if you run this, it will also switch them off in windows, as there is no outgauge info for it to show, they stay off!:tilt:
George Kuyumji
20th August 2006, 09:02
Thorvertonian could you take a look at my settings perhaps, this Add On doesnt work for me. I have the black MOMO.
I have 4,60 drivers on the wheel and I changed my cfg configs to:
OutGauge Mode 1
OutGauge Delay 1
OutGauge IP 127.0.0.1
OutGauge Port 56551
OutGauge ID 0
In the momoleds file I have:
[config]
; outGaugePort: Port to listen to for OutGauge packets
; deviceID: Device ID of the wheel (51715 = MOMO Racing (0xCA03), 49813 = MOMO (0xC295))
; deviceNum: Device number (if you have multiple wheels of the same type)
; speedlimitFlashTime: Flash delay of flashing pitlane speed limiter (ms)
; shiftlightFlashTime: Flash delay of flashing shift light (ms)
; lowfuelFlashTime: Flash delay of flashing low fuel light (ms)
outGaugePort=56551
deviceID=51715
deviceNum=0
speedlimitFlashTime=200
shiftlightFlashTime=100
lowfuelFlashTime=1000
; LED settings below, if car specifig settings are not found, the default ones are used
; LED actions:
; 0 = Always off
; 1 = Shift light
; 2 = Handbrake
; 3 = Pitspeed limiter
; 4 = Flashing pitspeed limiter
; 5 = Left signal
; 6 = Right signal
; 7 = Redline
; 8 = Oil warn
; 9 = Fullbeam
; 10 = Low fuel
; 11 = Traction control
; 12 = Flashing shiftlight
; 13 = Flashing low fuel light
; 14 = Always on
; >100 = RPM light
; For primary actions negative values negate the light state.
; For secondary actions (LED1b, LED2b) negative value means
; an OR operation and positive a XOR operation.
[default]
LED1=1
LED2=11
LED1b=12
LED2b=12
lowFuel=0.05
[bf1]
LED1=6000
LED2=7000
LED1b=1
LED2b=1
When I run the little Program it says it has found the HID device and is ready for Outgage data.
However, in the Game the LED lights turn on occasionally and unrelated to the redline or RPM limiter. When I go into the PC System Settings the MOMO is under the USB HID with the number:
HID\VID_046D&PID_CA03\6&1280A016&0&0000
USB\VID_046D&PID_CA03\5&6C122E&0&1
Thorvertonian
20th August 2006, 09:47
My entire momoleds.cfg file
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
;
; LFS MOMO LEDs configuration
; by Kegetys <kegetys@dnainternet.net>
;
[config]
; outGaugePort: Port to listen to for OutGauge packets
; deviceID: Device ID of the wheel (51715 = MOMO Racing (0xCA03), 49813 = MOMO (0xC295))
; deviceNum: Device number (if you have multiple wheels of the same type)
; speedlimitFlashTime: Flash delay of flashing pitlane speed limiter (ms)
; shiftlightFlashTime: Flash delay of flashing shift light (ms)
; lowfuelFlashTime: Flash delay of flashing low fuel light (ms)
outGaugePort=56551
deviceID=51715
deviceNum=0
speedlimitFlashTime=200
shiftlightFlashTime=100
lowfuelFlashTime=1000
; LED settings below, if car specifig settings are not found, the default ones are used
; LED actions:
; 0 = Always off
; 1 = Shift light
; 2 = Handbrake
; 3 = Pitspeed limiter
; 4 = Flashing pitspeed limiter
; 5 = Left signal
; 6 = Right signal
; 7 = Redline
; 8 = Oil warn
; 9 = Fullbeam
; 10 = Low fuel
; 11 = Traction control
; 12 = Flashing shiftlight
; 13 = Flashing low fuel light
; 14 = Always on
; >100 = RPM light
; For primary actions negative values negate the light state.
; For secondary actions (LED1b, LED2b) negative value means
; an OR operation and positive a XOR operation.
[default]
LED1=1
LED2=7
LED1b=-4
LED2b=-4
lowFuel=0.05
[bf1]
LED1=17000
LED2=19000
LED1b=12
LED2b=12
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
That works for me (MOMO Racing)
Give it a go, BF1, rev your engine with pit limiter off, should see the lights come o @ different intervals when reaching the specific rev range, if still no success please let me know!
George Kuyumji
20th August 2006, 11:00
Thanks for your help, I tried using the same settings that you have but it still doesnt work. I also tried lowering this line LED1=17000 to LED1=7000,to make sure I dont miss the required RPM to make the light go up, but it doesnt work I have the same settings and the same wheel as you :(
Thorvertonian
20th August 2006, 11:09
Try a fresh install (New copy of LFS, new copy of MOMO Leds)
George Kuyumji
20th August 2006, 11:18
could you look if you got the same letters and numbers like me in the Gamecontroller setup? I have:
HID\VID_046D&PID_CA03\6&1280A016&0&0000
USB\VID_046D&PID_CA03\5&6C122E&0&1
When reinstalling LFS, what files are important to keep? the setups, the dds folder and spr folder obviously, is there any other file I should backup? Are there Stats saved somewhere?
Jakg
20th August 2006, 11:23
could you look if you got the same letters and numbers like me in the Gamecontroller setup? I have:
HID\VID_046D&PID_CA03\6&1280A016&0&0000
USB\VID_046D&PID_CA03\5&6C122E&0&1
When reinstalling LFS, what files are important to keep? dds folder and spr folder obviously, is there any other file I should backup? Are there Stats saved somewhere?dds (if you have custom textures) - skins - skins_X - settings - spr - mpr
Stats are saved on LFSW, not your pc
Thorvertonian
20th August 2006, 11:51
Hid\vid_046d&pid_ca03\6&31b04cc7&0&0000
Usb\vid_046d&pid_ca03\5&1c743100&0&2
Dizzy74
20th August 2006, 16:38
Hi,
maybe someone could explain to me what is meant with OR and XOR operation? What does it in momoleds? I tried to find out with google, but does not really find an understandable explanation.
Thanks.
noob4ever
20th August 2006, 17:21
haha
dude
this is awesome
:thumb: thumb way up!!!
one thing if.. you could make it so it minimizes to a tray icon, that would be amazing!! :)
P1lot
20th August 2006, 19:39
Hi,
maybe someone could explain to me what is meant with OR and XOR operation? What does it in momoleds? I tried to find out with google, but does not really find an understandable explanation.
Thanks.
OR means the output is 1 when either of the 2 inputs are 1, which also results in output 1 when both inputs are 1 (like AND operation in this combination)
XOR means EXCLUSIVE OR. Again, the output will be 1 when either of the 2 inputs are 1, but the output will not be 1 when both inputs are 1
OR
00=0
01=1
10=1
11=1
XOR
00=0
01=1
10=1
11=0
EsCoRt RaLLy
22nd August 2006, 22:10
Thorvertonian could you take a look at my settings perhaps, this Add On doesnt work for me. I have the black MOMO.
I have 4,60 drivers on the wheel and I changed my cfg configs to:
OutGauge Mode 1
OutGauge Delay 1
OutGauge IP 127.0.0.1
OutGauge Port 56551
OutGauge ID 0
In the momoleds file I have:
[config]
; outGaugePort: Port to listen to for OutGauge packets
; deviceID: Device ID of the wheel (51715 = MOMO Racing (0xCA03), 49813 = MOMO (0xC295))
; deviceNum: Device number (if you have multiple wheels of the same type)
; speedlimitFlashTime: Flash delay of flashing pitlane speed limiter (ms)
; shiftlightFlashTime: Flash delay of flashing shift light (ms)
; lowfuelFlashTime: Flash delay of flashing low fuel light (ms)
outGaugePort=56551
deviceID=51715
deviceNum=0
speedlimitFlashTime=200
shiftlightFlashTime=100
lowfuelFlashTime=1000
; LED settings below, if car specifig settings are not found, the default ones are used
; LED actions:
; 0 = Always off
; 1 = Shift light
; 2 = Handbrake
; 3 = Pitspeed limiter
; 4 = Flashing pitspeed limiter
; 5 = Left signal
; 6 = Right signal
; 7 = Redline
; 8 = Oil warn
; 9 = Fullbeam
; 10 = Low fuel
; 11 = Traction control
; 12 = Flashing shiftlight
; 13 = Flashing low fuel light
; 14 = Always on
; >100 = RPM light
; For primary actions negative values negate the light state.
; For secondary actions (LED1b, LED2b) negative value means
; an OR operation and positive a XOR operation.
[default]
LED1=1
LED2=11
LED1b=12
LED2b=12
lowFuel=0.05
[bf1]
LED1=6000
LED2=7000
LED1b=1
LED2b=1
When I run the little Program it says it has found the HID device and is ready for Outgage data.
However, in the Game the LED lights turn on occasionally and unrelated to the redline or RPM limiter. When I go into the PC System Settings the MOMO is under the USB HID with the number:
HID\VID_046D&PID_CA03\6&1280A016&0&0000
USB\VID_046D&PID_CA03\5&6C122E&0&1
Make sure that in your cfg.txt file it says:
OutGauge Mode 1
OutGauge Delay 1
OutGauge IP 127.0.0.1
OutGauge Port 56551
OutGauge ID 0
and not:
OutGauge Mode 1
OutGauge Delay 30
OutGauge IP 127.0.0.1
OutGauge Port 56551
OutGauge ID 0
If the delay is 30 that means its 0.3 seconds delay before the lights go on, maybe thats why your lights kinda live their own life :)
Kegetys
28th December 2006, 21:57
As I have a G25 now and momoleds doesn't work with it, I decided to release the source code in case someone wants to do something with it.
It's available here (http://www.kegetys.net/lfs/MOMOleds_source.zip) as MS Visual Studio 6 project... It needs the Windows DDK to compile.
Turbo Dad
28th December 2006, 22:02
As I have a G25 now and momoleds doesn't work with it...
There are a couple of led's on the G25...possibility of new mod?
KBDE
30th December 2006, 19:52
As I have a G25 now and momoleds doesn't work with it, I decided to release the source code in case someone wants to do something with it.
It's available here (http://www.kegetys.net/lfs/MOMOleds_source.zip) as MS Visual Studio 6 project... It needs the Windows DDK to compile.
Thanks for releasing the source. :)
I don't understand why logitech does not officialy support this with the new steering wheels. They could add some leds, and with the right sim/game that would be a great addition. In fact, thats actually a reason why i do not buy the G25 yet. (and the fact you have to screw/unscrew another device to the table the moment you want to play a racing sim/game)
HondaCivicSI
30th December 2006, 20:17
I would just like to thank Kegetys for making this great additon to my momo racing wheel:)
SchneeFee
8th January 2007, 08:41
hiho!
Tried this app - and i must say its great. Works perfectly with Red MOMO.
I am using Limiter and Redline Setting.
Oliv76000
31st January 2007, 08:12
How to make function at the same time Momoleds and TPB (/insim 21029) and/or LFS stats (/insim 65000)? :scratchch
I tried this :
1. Open Momoleds
2. Launch LFS
3.a) enter this parameter in LFS "/insim 21029" and launch TPB but Momoleds don't work
3.b) enter this parameter in LFS "/insim 65000" and launch LFS_stats but Momoleds don't work
deggis
31st January 2007, 21:28
Olive76000, have you tried this:
http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?p=241138#post241138 ?
this is for OutGauge mods only, though I have no idea what's the difference between InSim and OutGauge mods :O
Oliv76000
2nd February 2007, 23:23
It doesn't work.
Momoleds don't like any Insim Application in LFS. How can I do?
After configure InsimGateway, it seems working well (Momoleds+TPB+LFS_stats)
SemnteX
4th February 2007, 20:00
this mod looks awsome but i have a dfp and it dosn't work for this wheel, so what i was thinking was drilling a load of holes in my wheel and adding my own LED's but i'm a little dim when comes to software programming and building things, so does anyone know of any tutorials or foums or stuff where i can get some info? thanks for your help in advance
hanzime
15th March 2007, 09:51
With all those different names .....
a verry simple question..
Does it work on the following wheel??
http://www.jham-trading.nl/images/Logitech%20Momo%20Racing%202.gif
because I can't get it to work.. When I start Momo Leds I get this ..
ogInit: Initializing OutGauge, port 65551...
initHID: Initializing HID (Device ID 0xCA03)...HID GUID: 4D1E55B2
initHID: Device found.
Ready for OutGauge data
And when I start up LFS the on start up a little blimp from bouth leds met nothing else during race.
many many many thanks !!
Jakg
15th March 2007, 10:05
With all those different names .....
a verry simple question..
Does it work on the following wing??
http://www.jham-trading.nl/images/Logitech%20Momo%20Racing%202.gif
and are ther solutions??
many many many thanks !!yup, it works on that wheel
hanzime
15th March 2007, 10:27
ok got it to work !!
Thanks a lot for this VERRY NICE TOOL !!!!
The reason why it did not work was because I hav placed
OutGauge Mode 1
OutGauge Delay 1
OutGauge IP 127.0.0.1
OutGauge Port 56551
in the momoled.cfg and not in the cfg.txt file:shrug:
But now Yeeeehaaa very nice !!!
THANKS A LOT
DRFT KING
26th March 2007, 07:34
My momo lights program isn't workin ever since i updated to patch V5.. :(
dawesdust_12
26th March 2007, 08:07
Possibly due to the way Insim packets have changed now, yell at kegectys to fix it.
mrodgers
26th March 2007, 16:28
Momoleds works just fine for me in V5. :shrug:
Kegetys
26th March 2007, 16:43
yell at kegectys to fix it.
Glad I don't have to do it :)
DRFT KING
27th March 2007, 06:17
My bad, somehow my cfg. file was changed :-/
all good now :)
Nick A
1st May 2007, 07:34
Love this add-on! The main reason i didn't buy a G25!
I noticed than once I have finished playing LFS and closed MomoLEDs the lights on the wheel remain off. Any chance you could change it so it leaves them on by default as a reminder that the wheel is still turned on?
BWX232
4th May 2007, 01:33
Love this add-on! The main reason i didn't buy a G25!
I noticed than once I have finished playing LFS and closed MomoLEDs the lights on the wheel remain off. Any chance you could change it so it leaves them on by default as a reminder that the wheel is still turned on?
Well, you should still get a G25, even if that means no LED mod. The G25 is sweet sweet sweet.. and shines with LFS.
George Kuyumji
4th May 2007, 01:44
Well, you should still get a G25, even if that means no LED mod. The G25 is sweet sweet sweet.. and shines with LFS.
But theres no big reason to go from the MOMO Black to the G-25, he likes the LED Lights, the wheel looks better (personal opinion), it has more buttons, the Wheel is thicker, and if he wants a H-Shifter he can get one for $60 which is way better than the G25 one. He might want to save money and buy a Professionell Simulation Steering Wheel in a couple of years instead of buying yet another plastic wheel which will wear out with time.
BWX232
4th May 2007, 03:37
But theres no big reason to go from the MOMO Black to the G-25, he likes the LED Lights, the wheel looks better (personal opinion), it has more buttons, the Wheel is thicker, and if he wants a H-Shifter he can get one for $60 which is way better than the G25 one. He might want to save money and buy a Professionell Simulation Steering Wheel in a couple of years instead of buying yet another plastic wheel which will wear out with time.
Actually you're wrong, there are more than a few reasons to buy a G25 over sticking with a Momo...
Also you're wrong about it being plastic- The wheel is Aluminum and leather.
Did you forget that the momo has 240 degrees rotation and the G25 had anywhere from 40 to 900 - user configurable?
It's also much faster, has stronger FF, and dual FF motors with anti-backlash gears.
The pedals are are metal as well (with metal frames), and there's a clutch pedal (hello, big reason right there). The entire pedal base is 500x better than anything Logitech has put out to date.
That doesn't even take into consideration the 6 speed + reverse shifter, which isn't the best, but works well and is flexible.
The paddle shifters are better too, they're metal, and have a better shape.
Do some research. :rolleyes: ----->> http://www.google.com/
thisnameistaken
4th May 2007, 04:08
The shifter is what puts me off the G25 - I've heard too many stories about how weedy it is.
Still, it looks like a nice quality wheel for the money (shame about the lack of wheel-face buttons), and a three-pedal set would be nice. Ah I just can't decide.
The shifter is what puts me off the G25 - I've heard too many stories about how weedy it is.i never broke mine, if you think its that weedy don't use it, you still get a kick-ass wheel and pedals!
BWX232
4th May 2007, 08:20
Yeah you could always just buy or make a gated shifter pod and just use the buttons on the Logitech G25 shifter, or put it in non-gated mode and use it for a hand-brake lever.
The SPEED is what makes the G25 better than any other FF wheel- along with the extra rotation, but you cannot have one without the other- that is where the DFP fell flat on it's face. I've had a Driving force ORIGINAL (Formula force GT clone with more buttons), BLACK Momo (Momo racing), a DFP, and now a G25, there's no comparison. G25 owns all- even w/o the buttons on the wheel. I too would like more buttons and was one who moaned about it, but since I got the wheel, I really don't care. It's good enough that the sacrifice is minimal compare to what you get n return.. ESPECIALLY in LFS.. the G25 was made for LFS FF.
Nick A
4th May 2007, 11:40
Well I have the Momo red and a 2006 Act Labs shifter. I did almost get a G25 but as I mainly like single seaters the clutch, which I was originally very keen on, lost it's appeal and of coarse the 900 degree rotation doesn't matter much for single seater's either. Also from what I've heard the Act labs is better than the G25 shifter. Lack of buttons doesn't bother me as much as lack of LEDs on the wheel! So I'm happy with what i've got. If my wheel broke (nooo!) I would probably try and buy another red Momo on ebay :D And the Momo red looks fantastic too!:nod:
sh20032k
10th July 2007, 14:15
There are a couple of led's on the G25...possibility of new mod?
To my knowledge the G25 doesn't have LED lights? I have one on order and have read nothing about them. Can someone please confirm?
If it does have LED's, what's the likelyhood they can be configured in a future mod?
Thanks,
Simon.
EsCoRt RaLLy
11th July 2007, 18:10
To my knowledge the G25 doesn't have LED lights? I have one on order and have read nothing about them. Can someone please confirm?
If it does have LED's, what's the likelyhood they can be configured in a future mod?
Thanks,
Simon.
No LED's on the G25 wheel. Although there is 2 LED's on the shifter. If these can be used i have no idea and i see no point in using them either.
sh20032k
11th July 2007, 22:16
No LED's on the G25 wheel. Although there is 2 LED's on the shifter. If these can be used i have no idea and i see no point in using them either.
Oh I see, yeah I see what you mean, that isn't much help if you wouldn't obviously see the lights when concentrating on driving. Maybe something like a pit limiter light though would be worthwhile? For customisation sake...
Radical-X
3rd December 2007, 19:43
Well. I read for plenty of problems here but not one of my kind.I put the exrtra lines check them start the game get a few flashes at the begin and then nothing.When i close the game and open the cfg again everything dissappears.What's going on????Plz i really want to use that prog.
Nick A
4th December 2007, 07:39
What do you mean by "everything dissapears"? Does your cfg fle reset to how it was before you made the changes, or does is the file empty?
You have changed the "OutGauge Port" to 56551 in the cfg.txt in your LFS directory?
Radical-X
4th December 2007, 16:16
What do you mean by "everything dissapears"? Does your cfg fle reset to how it was before you made the changes, or does is the file empty?
You have changed the "OutGauge Port" to 56551 in the cfg.txt in your LFS directory?
Yes i've done everything several times but it just resets. Why??? I got tha momo racing black.
Nick A
4th December 2007, 17:50
I think I've seen my LFS cfg file reset when I've adjusted the settings while the game was running. So make sure the game isn't loaded when you change them. Other than that I'm not sure what's wrong I'm afraid.
Radical-X
6th December 2007, 11:08
Again the same problem. Maybe the driver has sthing to do with that?? i got the last one 5.01 i think.Maybe the shifter??
tristancliffe
6th December 2007, 11:23
I had a black Momo. I followed the instructions and it worked perfectly first time. It could be because LFS isn't compatible anymore (changes to in/outsime), new drivers aren't compatible anymore (no idea what version I was using), or your PC is configured badly. There's not much we can do to help, other than suggest you check the above things and/or contact the original author.
Radical-X
6th December 2007, 11:34
And sthing i forgot.I use s2 alpha version.
Nick A
6th December 2007, 11:34
LFS is still compatible, I was using it with my MOMO Red until a few weeks ago. Not sure what version of the Logitech Software i was running, but it's the latest one.
Edit: I take it you're using Patch X?
Radical-X
6th December 2007, 18:15
no.I just got the s2 alpha version with no addons.Any difference with the "normal" s2??
Nick A
6th December 2007, 19:50
The is only one version of S2. But there are various patches, the latest of which is patch X. More specifically "0.5X10". On the LFS home screen (where it says Trainint, Multiplayer, Single Player etc) what does it say version does it say at the bottom of the screen?
Radical-X
6th December 2007, 21:31
It says 0.5P
Nick A
7th December 2007, 09:03
That's quite an old version. You should download the latest patch (X) from www.lfs.net.
I'm assuming you have an S2 licence and your profile hasn't updated for some reason. But if you haven't then do buy it, LFS is a bargain at Ģ24 in my opinion and the money goes straight to the 3 developers, who have done a fantastic job.
Nick A
12th December 2007, 10:57
Silence :hidesbehi I guess that answers the question. Buy the game, you won't regret it! :thumb:
retard132
15th December 2007, 01:09
Hey thanks very cool i have a momo racing wheel and i used it and it is cool....
i made the left LED (or LED 1) to be the shift light and pit speed limiter flashing and the right LED (well LED 2) to be the over rev light...
so it works grate no lag what so ever.... so it works great
Monkay
15th December 2007, 04:46
People with the G25 can always get this:
http://www.cxcsimulations.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=CS&Product_Code=LGSLI
:hyper:
A bit pricey tho... $120 :dunce:
cuk123
21st June 2008, 13:07
Put Momo Led Put Et
Nahkis_
21st June 2008, 19:51
Put Momo Led Put Et
bump!
**** sake lol
okijuhans
21st June 2008, 21:10
I have DFP - can anyone make this to DFP too. DFP has 2 LED-s.
Kristjan.J
21st June 2008, 22:52
I'll try that LED thing out, when I get to my wheel. :)
jfeelders (GoT)
13th August 2009, 11:24
I've been using this mod for quite a long time now and I'm very happy with it. However, is there a way to auto-close the DOS-box after exiting LFS? Right now I use a batchfile to call lfsmomoleds and lfs. This initial batchfile closes right away but the DOS-box of lfsmomoleds remains open, even after quitting LFS. Help?
speed1230
13th August 2009, 15:08
I've been using this mod for quite a long time now and I'm very happy with it. However, is there a way to auto-close the DOS-box after exiting LFS? Right now I use a batchfile to call lfsmomoleds and lfs. This initial batchfile closes right away but the DOS-box of lfsmomoleds remains open, even after quitting LFS. Help?
Why would you need to bump a year old thread anyway?
Nick A
13th August 2009, 16:41
I did it like this:
start /WAIT LFS.exe
taskkill /f /IM LFSmomoLeds.exe
jfeelders (GoT)
14th August 2009, 17:13
Why would you need to bump a year old thread anyway?
Because I have a problem, this is a forum (where people help people with problems) and this is the thread dedicated to LFSmomoleds. No matter if the threat is a year old... :(
Btw, Nick A: your solution is great. Thanks!
NoYPiDRiFTER
20th August 2009, 01:29
I use this its pretty cool! I sometimes need to know when to shift and the green light just pops out!
Yorky
31st October 2009, 06:05
Anyone having trouble getting this continue working under the new Z25 release? The DOS box says what car your using but the lights don't do anything anymore :(
beefyman666
31st October 2009, 06:07
Anyone having trouble getting this continue working under the new Z25 release? The DOS box says what car your using but the lights don't do anything anymore :(
I don't think it will work for most of the cars now. Try using it in a GTR or single seater that still have the shift light.
All the road cars except RAC (correct me if i'm wrong) had the shift lights removed.
Yorky
31st October 2009, 07:21
Oh sorry yes I checked the vehicles that still have it, BF1 as well which has the wonderful TC which should also light up but that doesn't work as before either.
Whiskey
31st October 2009, 15:26
The packet of OutGauge, which contains that info has changed. So MOMOLED need an update to read it well
Oliv76000
2nd December 2009, 11:19
Someone is able to update Momoleds? or to program an other application as well?
DavidTiger
2nd December 2009, 11:32
If the source is available I could update, otherwise you would have to wait for Kegetys
DirkT
30th December 2009, 03:02
Good news everybody, I fixed the MOMO Leds plugin from Kegetys (http://www.lfsforum.net/member.php?u=48546) to support the Z28 release. I was getting fed up not being able to see my upshift LED flashing so I dug a little and here's the result. Initial credit goes to Kegetys (http://www.lfsforum.net/member.php?u=48546) of course!
http://tolva.upexia.nl/lfs/momoleds_v1.2_binary.zip
md5: 6490a7acc55307d4f97749c40a62a588
My version is compatible with the old config with one difference, because of the new Z28 layout; REDLINE doesn't do anything anymore.
For those of you who are interested in the sourcecode:
http://tolva.upexia.nl/lfs/momoleds_v1.2_source.zip
md5: 7339ed7ce37dd4d74b72d097cfd32c69
One weird thing while working with the struct provided in the inSim.txt for outGauge; when I copy the exact same layout it doesn't align properly. It creates a 16 bit gap between the unsigned DashLight value and the float above. I just put a 'Filler' 16 bit between the two to fix this issue, so this might need another patch in the future. But for now, it works!
Yorky
30th December 2009, 05:58
Outstanding works a treat!
Bmxtwins
31st July 2010, 03:34
Sorry for bump, will the z28 version work with this momo version? (not 2006)
http://www.3dnews.ru/documents/9822/024.jpg
Yorky
31st July 2010, 03:42
Yes that's the same wheel I have, works fine.
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