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Blackout
1st May 2006, 13:58
Is there LFS, LFSW or LFS-brand logos in vector format? I dont know if "vector format" is the right word, but in vectors so you can edit the lines and the colors, so we could easily make outlined logo with color you want for example. Would it be possible to have them released, if there is such things? Eric? :shy:

Jakg
1st May 2006, 14:01
isnt there a link to thiese in kidcodeas sig?

Blackout
1st May 2006, 14:07
Thats psd, picture with normal layers. You cant work with it like vectors.

Jakg
1st May 2006, 14:10
oh, i stand corrected!

Victor
1st May 2006, 16:38
www.liveforspeed.net/file_lfs.php?name=LFS_LOGO_PACK.zip

MAGGOT
1st May 2006, 17:08
Wow, thanks Vic! :D I'll take a peek in a bit (Still putting my room back together after moving back home.. ugh..) but does this include all the logos?

MAGGOT

Blackout
1st May 2006, 17:10
Thanks Victor, but should those be vector (or atlest that which says vector) because I see those just image layers. But then again that one logo is somehow broken and it looks same when vectors mess around. Using psp7, could that be the problem. See the pic.

tristancliffe
1st May 2006, 17:19
Did you read the thread detail? ;)

Blackout
1st May 2006, 18:00
Someone deleted some messages :scratchch:D

ORION
1st May 2006, 18:06
Thanks Victor, but should those be vector (or atlest that which says vector) because I see those just image layers. But then again that one logo is somehow broken and it looks same when vectors mess around. Using psp7, could that be the problem. See the pic.
Looks like it didnt grab all vertices, maybe some of them are lost in the background layer? Try Ctrl + A or group all objects (if the program can do that)

Don
1st May 2006, 18:14
it works ok here - photoshop cs

Blackout
1st May 2006, 18:16
Looks like it didnt grab all vertices, maybe some of them are lost in the background layer? Try Ctrl + A or group all objects (if the program can do that)

How it can lose verticles (?) if it isnt vector. Im totally confused. Should those be vectors (or whatever) which you can edit flreely? Is my psp so old and retarted it cant underestand these files. :shrug:

edit. forgot the pic

Don
1st May 2006, 18:49
something being "in vectors" means that you can resize it to any resolution you want without loosing quality

Blackout
1st May 2006, 19:01
Well I mean the other kind of "vectors" you draw, and then you can edit them as you like. I knew there would be misundertandings because I dont know about these photshop terms. And I would be more interested about the "LFS brand" logos...in this more editable format...which ever it would be called then.

colcob
1st May 2006, 19:02
I presume you are opening LFSEPSvecto.eps from the vector subfolder.

But you seem to be opening it in an image editing program, which edits images, not vectors. When photoshop or paint shop pro is asked to open an EPS file, it rasterizes it into a pixel based image, so you can no longer edit the vectors.

You need something like illustrator to do vector editing on EPS files.

EDIT: Apparently PSP does support vector file editing as well, but presumably you need to specifically tell it to open it as a vector or something. Maybe try 'import' or something like that.

Blackout
1st May 2006, 19:14
Soooo.... I need 500$ program to open that in editable form? Would it be possible to convert to .psp format? Because this can do vectors...some sort.

Don
1st May 2006, 19:27
no, you are understanding it wrong.
this .eps file means you can resize it to gigantic sizes and it will still have great quality. But it doesnt mean that you can edit the file (you cant just delete "live" from live for speed and replace it with "die" or whatever)...no...its "rasterized" already and you cant edit it like that in any program.

Blackout
1st May 2006, 19:33
Oh...ok, you mean colcob right? But to edit it I would need the orginal file from Eric's computer, have you Eric ever wanted to make these forums crash? :D

colcob
1st May 2006, 19:39
Hmm. Not at all convinced by that Don. EPS's are definitely not 'rasterised' already if the original information was vector based.
Of course EPS's can contain both vector and raster information as they are used for print layout.

EDIT: Yeah, i've just imported the EPS into Flash MX and its as editable as and editable thing.

Blackout
1st May 2006, 19:47
ooo thats cool. But now I dont need the 500$ program...I need a 700$ program :thumb::(

Don
1st May 2006, 19:54
Hmm. Not at all convinced by that Don. EPS's are definitely not 'rasterised' already if the original information was vector based.
Of course EPS's can contain both vector and raster information as they are used for print layout.

EDIT: Yeah, i've just imported the EPS into Flash MX and its as editable as and editable thing.
hmmm aha, didnt know that....tho what i meant was that you cant just "rewrite" it like classic photoshop text layer...

Primoz
1st May 2006, 21:06
.eps never worked for me in Photoshop, always got a white background (not even a transparent one!). Worked fine in Illustrator (vectorized, as it should). I then just used Photoshop and Illustrator side by side, using Illustrator to select and copy logos only.

joeynuggetz
1st May 2006, 22:49
Thanks

Gunn
2nd May 2006, 00:40
What vector software are you using Blackout?

I have attached two files for you to try, one is in Adobe Illustrator format (ai) and the other is in Corel Draw format (cdr). Let me know if these work for you in your software. You should be able to ungroup each letter and the flag graphic and manipulate them fully in true vector format.

The cdr file attached should have more chance of working but in case it doesn't try the ai file instead.


**file removed, update below

Blackout
2nd May 2006, 05:10
That cdr file seems to work, thanks Gun. Now if only we could get some more logos :x

Gunn
2nd May 2006, 12:13
Try this one, it is higher quality than the previous one. CDR only this time.

newage
2nd May 2006, 13:53
Try this one, it is higher quality than the previous one. CDR only this time.

tnks a lot, i think is the first thing of LFS in corel format i see...

Blackout
2nd May 2006, 15:18
Thats indeed uber, thanks a lot.

ORION
2nd May 2006, 16:55
Well those Adobe and Macromedia (which is now the same anyway) programs suck if you ask me - nothing works as it should. Specially Im talking about compatibility between different versions of the same program, or if you want to work with Windows and Mac (like we have to do at my uni if we want to continue work at home), you cant really open your projects. You must import and export, and experiment all the time.
Currently we have also installed cracked versions because we dont have the very newest and some older versions licensed from the uni, but it workes somehow...

Another example: Freehand is supposed to be a program where you can create layouts for prints, thus things must be extremely exact. But when you move an object with the mouse, it doesnt use the raster (like moving in 0.1mm steps), NO, Macromedia calculates the millimeteres the object shall be moved by the pixels on the screen. The result is, its impossible to move an object and have it exact afterwards, and moving by input is very limited either. Its a joke :D

However, Im pleased that the uber version looks better ;)

Gunn
3rd May 2006, 08:32
Here's a vectored version of the LFS World Logo. I have included both CDR and AI formats. If your software does not support these file formats then these files are useless to you. Quality will be of course higher if you are using a real vector program like Adobe Illustrator or Corel Draw. Enjoy.


Corrupt file removed by request.

Gunn
4th May 2006, 00:57
I tested these in PSP9 and quite frankly PSP can't handle them properly even though it says it supports CDR files. Neither can it handle the ai version. If you are using non-vector programs like Photoshop or Paint Shop Pro you might be better off using PSD format. If there is anyone here who really does understand vectors in EPS then perhaps they would be willing to try some experimental EPS files?

From my tinkerings with EPS it seems to handle solid colours ok but not transparency. I have attached a basic EPS version using solid colours and it would be cool if someone is able to test it and give some feedback.

I will need to know:
What program you are using.
How editable is the image? Can you move each component? Can you change the actual shape of the components by manipulating the outlines? Can you add or remove nodes?
Are seperate layers apparent or do you just have one solid image?