Detection of such programs as: Autopilot

[Krammeh]

I cannot think of one, but is there a way to detect such a program as this bullshit?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpAZun0bb5A

[GeForz]

Jeah just disable the cruise filter *troll*

[Krammeh]

if you disable the filter, they would show. *non-English troll*

[morpha]

Can't think of a fool-proof way either, but I'd imagine this stuff produces fairly consistent laptimes and it won't send chat messages, which is a start.

[Mikjen]

Awesome, hope he releases it to general public :)

[DarkTimes]

If I understand you 'program' it by driving around and recording your inputs. A solution then would be to use the new add/remove objects packet in the next LFS version to randomly change the track layout in subtle ways. You could have a bunch of pre-designed layouts and randomly switch them every so often. That would mess them up quite a bit, and you could detect cars that frequently hit layout objects and make them, I dunno, do a captcha to prove they're human or something.

[Dygear]

Can't think of a fool-proof way either, but I'd imagine this stuff produces fairly consistent laptimes and it won't send chat messages, which is a start.

So do I, and I'm not very talkative when I'm in game (Via text chat, as I use Vent or TeamSpeak).

[morpha]

So do I, and I'm not very talkative when I'm in game (Via text chat, as I use Vent or TeamSpeak).

When cruising? :tilt:

[S14 DRIFT]

I cannot think of one, but is there a way to detect such a program as this bullshit?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpAZun0bb5A


I like most of all how seriously you take this.

HAHAHAHahaha.

[CSU1]

I found this - through insims we stop autotrololol

http://www.lfsforum.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=114756&d=1307562197

[denis-takumi]

get wHandle of LFS.exe, get window position, width, height.
using mouse control,
BOOL WINAPI SetCursorPos(
__in int X,
__in int Y
);
INPUT click;
click->type = INPUT_MOUSE;
click->mi.dwFlags = MOUSEEVENTF_LEFTDOWN;
SendInput(1,click,sizeof(INPUT));

[Flame CZE]

I found this - through insims we stop autotrololol

That's quite an old LFS isn't it :)

[denis-takumi]

That's quite an old LFS isn't it :)

Z3x

[Krammeh]

maybe LFS should report what InSim applications are connected to the client to the server, and if a new one connects - by the looks of it, it uses InSim, outSim and outGauge

[S14 DRIFT]

Maybe cruise server admins shouldn't take their cruising so seriously.

Although if I had a beard I'd probably be very serious as well.

[Krammeh]

fair play. I will write one that uses axis inputs, so I can make a nice racing bot, and i'll rip up the race servers. no problems!

[denis-takumi]

take a very long time to write a bot that will perfectly controlled and win

[S14 DRIFT]

fair play. I will write one that uses axis inputs, so I can make a nice racing bot, and i'll rip up the race servers. no problems!

go for it. You race with talent, you cruise for fun.

But expected little else really from your dictatorship of a server.

[Bmxtwins]

LiveForSlow

what can i say.


I dont see the big deal tbh, they will get bored eventually.

[MadCatX]

If there are speed limits on the cruise server, perhaps changing them at few zones from time to time might discover such a bot. This would have to be used along with some other mechanisms like checking the consistency of laptimes and driving lines though...

[GAVD999]

I dont see the big deal tbh

If a bot like this is left running constantly on an online server then its going to mess up the lfs world most driven distance and laps charts? May not be a major problem but another reason why it should be stopped :shrug:

[S14 DRIFT]

Oh because obviously total distance is so important and from looking at this application it's not for outright speed.

[PoVo]

from looking at this application it's not for outright speed.

That doesn't mean it can't be tweaked and improved...

[Krammeh]

Oh because obviously total distance is so important and from looking at this application it's not for outright speed.

statistics is part of LFSWorld, which is part of the S2 purchase - if the statistics are now void, that kinda displeases some of us stats whores

[sinanju]

If there are speed limits on the cruise server, perhaps changing them at few zones from time to time might discover such a bot. This would have to be used along with some other mechanisms like checking the consistency of laptimes and driving lines though...
Or maybe a traffic light system, so if you go thru one you get fined, but go thru two and you get pitted. And if you're pitted twice, you get kicked.

[T3charmy]

maybe LFS should report what InSim applications are connected to the client to the server, and if a new one connects - by the looks of it, it uses InSim, outSim and outGauge

wouldn't an easy way to be, track there X,Y values, and if they match lap after lap, after lap, then handle it.... obv. isnt the best, but it could work, could it not?

[S14 DRIFT]

statistics is part of LFSWorld, which is part of the S2 purchase - if the statistics are now void, that kinda displeases some of us stats whores

IT'S TOTAL DISTANCE. Doesn't matter in anything. But by all means... :thumbsup:

[Krammeh]

wouldn't an easy way to be, track there X,Y values, and if they match lap after lap, after lap, then handle it.... obv. isnt the best, but it could work, could it not?

what if you done 50 mins of recording, then left that looping.

[Krammeh]

IT'S TOTAL DISTANCE. Doesn't matter in anything. But by all means... :thumbsup:

total daily, total weekly, total yearly.

Maybe it doesn't mean anything to YOU, but it does for some

[S14 DRIFT]

Only matters to people who think they're awesome because they have more free time than others..

[boothy]

Surely running an AI could increase your lapcount? Never tried it though.

[Flame CZE]

Surely running an AI could increase your lapcount? Never tried it though.
No, I tried it some time ago and it doesn't work :)

[Forbin]

statistics is part of LFSWorld, which is part of the S2 purchase - if the statistics are now void, that kinda displeases some of us stats whores

Go attack Annabelle then for "cheating" on total distance by driving a billion laps around KY1 in the BF1 and FO8.

[Krammeh]

so long as it has been driven by a human, then its not cheating. a computer repeating a human is.