S2 ALPHA - Patch U

[Scawen]

Hello Racers!

Announcing Patch U : A new official patch for S2 ALPHA :)

We are very pleased with the reaction to the S and T versions.
Various fixes and improvements have been done in the week since
version S was released. Thanks to all who tested and commented
on the test patches. Version U is quite an improvement and we expect
this to be the stable version for some time while we have a little
break then get on with more S2 work, on the way to S2 final.

Version U is fully compatible with versions S and T.


Changes since version S :

Race penalty statistics now sent to LFS World
Changed format of /track host startup command
Removed /config and /reversed startup commands
Some small frame rate optimisations in car draw
Hosts can now display a 200 character welcome message
Added a new command /tracks to specify allowed tracks
OutGauge system for external dashboards (see InSim.txt)
FOX / FO8 / BF1 all have their own dashboard colour slider
Translations and docs folder updated with new translations
Throttle blip on downshift now allowed again with manual clutch
Suspension stronger before it bends but then bends more quickly

FIX : LFS could crash sometimes when leaving a multiplayer game
FIX : Croatian and Serbian should always be correctly selected
FIX : Could view other racers ARB and Brake Balance online
FIX : LFS crash when starting up with Greek or Norwegian
FIX : Aston Grand Touring / North showed up as AS6 / AS7
FIX : Aston lessons had gone wrong with changed objects
FIX : Downloading Skin message was partially off screen
FIX : Could set wind in hotlapping using /wind command
FIX : Commands /track=as6 and /track=as7 did not work
FIX : Number entry in tyre setup menu did not work
FIX : XF GTI acceleration, PRO level was too easy
FIX : Colour alternation on list of games screen
FIX : LFS could crash when drawing a damaged car
FIX : Connecting player with different weather
FIX : Text command /leave had stopped working


PATCH and Full Version Downloads :

http://www.liveforspeed.net/?page=downloads


DEDICATED HOST Download (1.5 MB) :

www.liveforspeed.net/file_lfs.php?name=LFS_S2_DEDI_U.zip

[Vendetta]

that came fkin fast! nice work :)

[Sp3cTr3]

you deserve a few weeks off now :thumb:

[_rod_]

Thanks Scawen!!! Now go for you much deserved vocations!!! Best luck and i hope you have a good time!!! Same goes to all Devs!! :D

[Honey]

just installed and crashed after displaying the online server list

EDIT: seems random, sometimes does, sometimes not

Q: will i have incompatibilities if a stay with patch S?

[tristancliffe]

Doesn't crash here Honey. What settings are you using to make it crash? And why is it you that always has these problems - I'd say something is seriously wrong with your PC, perhaps try reinstalling (perhaps a second OS) and see if these problems you have reoccur?

[Hankstar]

Thanks Scawen :up:

[Goling]

Thank you very much!!!
非常感谢！！！:)

[GianniC]

Thanks Scawen :up:

Same!

[NotAnIllusion]

:wow: :iagree:

[eppmaster]

So fast thats great nice work!!

[Honey]

Doesn't crash here Honey. What settings are you using to make it crash? And why is it you that always has these problems - I'd say something is seriously wrong with your PC, perhaps try reinstalling (perhaps a second OS) and see if these problems you have reoccur?
honestly (nothing personal with you tristan) i'm sick of this.
patch S never crashed, now patch U crash randomly crash and i reported, should i shut up?

made few tests and crash only occur if:
1- open lfs
2- display online list
3- i push 2 times the back button

the three steps make lfs crash 99% times if i do anything else different no problem til now, so if so it's not important, so for those interested i told how to reproduce the bug.

since everyone seems upset by me reporting problems or bug, i will not post anymore anytime soon so everyone will be more happy i will save my time...because as you say it's always my fault, not lfs'

remember occam's razor principle and think about it... >_>

[Misko]

Well Honey its not a LFS problem. I just did what you said and of course, everything worked just as always. I assume you already told your firewall program that lfs.exe is updated and needs a permission to access the net. Thats the only thing we need to do with every new patch.

[tristancliffe]

Just tried that EXACTLY honey, and still no crash here. What filters are you running? How many servers can you see? Do you get a crash address, or does it just close.

I'm all for bugs being reported, but when one or two people are constantly having problems whilst the rest of the world doesn't it kind of implies it might be a PC problem not an LFS problem.

Edit: Have now done your three steps 4 times, each with different filters. It's not a reproducable bug at my end. Been doing it windowed.

[Shotglass]

made few tests and crash only occur if:
1- open lfs
2- display online list
3- i push 2 times the back button

works flawlessly on my end (tried a few times)

[spankmeyer]

since everyone seems upset by me reporting problems or bug, i will not post anymore anytime soon so everyone will be more happy i will save my time...because as you say it's always my fault, not lfs'
Martyrdom never helps, so I'd suggest taking some time to cool off and check if your pet hamster bit through cables or if a stray hummingbird is nesting inside your computer case. There are infinite number of things that might have gone wrong with your comp instead of LFS... :shrug:

[csurdongulos]

Made few tests and crash only occur if:
1- open lfs
2- display online list
3- i push 2 times the back button

full screen or windowed mode?

[Shotglass]

full screen or windowed mode?

hmmm goof point ... ried both neither of the two caused a crash there is a slight delay though after clicking back the second time maybe lfs doesnt recover from whatever it does there on some pcs

[Krane]

made few tests and crash only occur if:
1- open lfs
2- display online list
3- i push 2 times the back button
works perfectly here. where is the crash address you get? or the dr. watson logs? what filters you use? does reinstalling lfs fix it? how about windows? have you run prime95 or memtest? have you allowed lfs access to internet? can you play lfs online? what components and driver versions is your system made of?


See the problem? YOU should have answered to those questions on your own, just reporting you get a crash isn't very helpful, especially if everybody can't replicate it 100% of the time. besides all this should be in the bug forum.

[ekze]

Thanks Scawen!
Спасибо, Скавен! ^_^

[Honey]

hmmm goof point ... ried both neither of the two caused a crash there is a slight delay though after clicking back the second time maybe lfs doesnt recover from whatever it does there on some pcs
the new patch set the window while connecting and that was causing the problem, i set it to "NO" and never crashed til now (10 test done).
but it only occurs for the 3 steps i indicated, if i switch to full screen to desktop and viceversa many times after i do something, everything is fine.

i think it has to do with some directx initializations.

[-DrftMstr-]

Doesn't crash here Honey.

LOL!!! i know i know his license name is Honey... but still

[DownShift]

SWEET! new pach! thank you devs!!! :)

[Fordman]

Nice one Team :thumb:

[shim]

go grab a pint mate, ya deserved it :)

[JogDive]

Thank you very much Mr. Roberts and the rest of the dev team :thumb:

[STROBE]

Thanks Scavier. :thumb: Excellent service to have these loose ends tied up so quickly after such a large patch. Enjoy your break. :nod:

[SamH]

Patch U isn't updated on liveforspeed.net yet. Is this definitely final patch, before I nag people in the team to upgrade, and bump up the server config?

[EDIT] I mean final patch for now, not final patch. You know what I mean ;)

[overdoped]

A big thank you for all the work, if I could, I'd pay you devs a beer or two this night. You deserve it!
Continue the good work! :drink:

[Speed Soro]

"while we have a little break "

20 days is enough for everyone. Back to work asap soldier! Move!
:D

tks for the patch and have a nice recess!

[SarcasmO]

Very nice:thumb:
I was really looking forward to using external insturments:bowdown:

[SamH]

Damn :( Hit a "problem" :(
The Welcome message doesn't update when you edit the file (which I wanted to do with a web interface I just wrote to do it). It doesn't when you /reinit the server either. It only updates when you close the server app and restart it.. which means RDC in, find/close, re-start, exit RDC.

I had hoped to be able to use the welcome message to keep people abreast of team events, particular upcoming track configs and relay races etc. I only just realised, now that I've written the web interface, that it doesn't work that way :(

[EDIT] I just realised it's the bans file scenario all over again. LOL! Sorry Scawen!
::hangs head in shame::

[Madman_CZ]

cheeers Scavier, your hard work is to be rewarded with a well deserved break. The s2 update is amazing!!... thanks again....

mad

[joen]

Thanks for the hard work and dedication, enjoy your break now :)
Just don't make it too long :D

[nutty boy]

Thanks devs. Very quick stuff there, no probs this time either, installed in less than 5 minutes. Now go to a beach and have fun.

[Scawen]

Damn :( Hit a "problem" :(
The Welcome message doesn't update when you edit the file (which I wanted to do with a web interface I just wrote to do it). It doesn't when you /reinit the server either. It only updates when you close the server app and restart it.. which means RDC in, find/close, re-start, exit RDC.The easiest way is to just type /welcome=welcome.txt (to reload welcome.txt)

[Bob Smith]

Go Scawen, go Scawen :static: :static: :static: :static: :static:

:p

[SamH]

The easiest way is to just type /welcome=welcome.txt (to reload welcome.txt)
Is there an emoticon representing someone who is very embarassed because he completely failed to soak up the instructions? I can't see one when I need one.

Thanks Scawen! You rock!

[stay]

Cheers for the hard work over the past few months, Scawen. :)

Just a reminder that www.liveforspeed.net still needs amending to show the current version as S2 U at the top left of the page. ;)

[nesrulz]

Thanks SCAVIER!:up:

[sshhaabb]

Just brilliant!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Speedworx]

Lets hope Patch U fixes my:

Can't open: HGA_grasshill

Message when I open the game/join a server.

[Scawen]

Lets hope Patch U fixes my:

Can't open: HGA_grasshillProbably not. That file isn't in the patch.

Are you missing this file for some reason?

www.liveforspeed.co.uk/HGA_grasshill.zip <-- put the dds file in this zip, into your dds folder

[SchneeFee]

...on the way to S2 final.:thumb:

[Speedworx]

Cheers Scawen. The file was there, but was 0kb. Only started happening when I got patch S. Its fixed now :)

[NPedro]

for me, the game works...but i cant see any letters, numbers..or else!
i've tried all languages, but i still cant see any word or numbers...
its that normal ??

Look Here :
http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/3457/lfss2au7ka.jpg
http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/6063/lfss2au20cj.jpg

i thank anyone how helps me :)

[J.P (GB)]

Gah why can i never extract the files properly.

Is there no easier way to giving out updates?

Sorry to be bitchin but it gets annoying when trying to do stuff like this.

[MR_B]

What exactly has changed since T6..i've installed every update up until T6 and I'm curious to know the step from T6 -> U...
Mr Roberts..... I hope you like beer because ALOT of people want to buy you one! :D

[tristancliffe]

What exactly has changed since T6..i've installed every update up until T6 and I'm curious to know the step from T6 -> U...
Mr Roberts..... I hope you like beer because ALOT of people want to buy you one! :D

I tried that once. He ended up buying ME one, dammit! :(

[ste_]

for me, the game works...but i cant see any letters, numbers..or else!
i've tried all languages, but i still cant see any word or numbers...
its that normal ??

Look Here :
http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/3457/lfss2au7ka.jpg
http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/6063/lfss2au20cj.jpg

i thank anyone how helps me :)last time i saw something like that my graphics card was in the process of dieing.

[RiCiN]

Awesome!

BTW, in case you all missed it:

Torrents here:

ALPHA U FULL (http://lfsnal.org/downloads/S2/LFS_S2_ALPHA_U.zip.torrent)
ALPHA S TO U (http://lfsnal.org/downloads/S2/LFS_S2_ALPHA_PATCH_S_TO_U.zip.torrent)
ALPHA P TO U (http://lfsnal.org/downloads/S2/LFS_S2_ALPHA_PATCH_P_TO_U.zip.torrent)
ALPHA DEDI U (http://lfsnal.org/downloads/S2/LFS_S2_DEDI_U.zip.torrent)


ALPHA T PATCH (http://lfsnal.org/downloads/S2/LFS_S2_ALPHA_PATCH_T.zip.torrent)
ALPHA T FULL (http://lfsnal.org/downloads/S2/LFS_S2_ALPHA_T.zip.torrent)
ALPHA T DEDI (http://lfsnal.org/downloads/S2/LFS_S2_DEDI_T.zip.torrent)
ALPHA T2 EXE (http://lfsnal.org/downloads/S2/LFS_T2_EXE.zip.torrent)
ALPHA T3 EXE (http://lfsnal.org/downloads/S2/LFS_T3_EXE.zip.torrent)
ALPHA T PATCH with DEDI T (http://lfsnal.org/downloads/S2/LFS_S2_ALPHA_PATCH_T_DEDI_T.torrent)
ALPHA T FULL with DEDI T (http://lfsnal.org/downloads/S2/LFS_S2_ALPHA_T_FULL_DEDI_T.torrent)
Seed away! :)

[-Steed-]

You mentioned that the /track format had changed. Do you have a list of track 'codes' that can be used in the dedicated server config file?

Thanks.

[Tweaker]

You mentioned that the /track format had changed. Do you have a list of track 'codes' that can be used in the dedicated server config file?

Thanks.

Check your thread, I might have fixed your problem: http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=7396

EDIT: See post #5 by SamH, he explains it there. ;)

[ATC Quicksilver]

Gah why can i never extract the files properly.

Is there no easier way to giving out updates?

Sorry to be bitchin but it gets annoying when trying to do stuff like this.

Well its quite simple, just hit 'Extract to' then select your LFS folder and write over the previous files :pillepall

[peejayh]

In an age of penny pinching and selfishness you're just too kind to us.....
we don't deserve all this molly coddling...;.

[Trauma]

I upgraded to Patch U, and my computer freezes.
Many times in race it just froze.

Thought it was a hardware issue, but after many frustraiting hours, I installed the T6 and it runs like a dream again.
Have not seen any others with same issue, but thougt i mention it here.

Have not tried installing the patch again.

Maybe I download it again, and try to install it again later today.

[danowat]

the new patch set the window while connecting and that was causing the problem, i set it to "NO" and never crashed til now (10 test done).
but it only occurs for the 3 steps i indicated, if i switch to full screen to desktop and viceversa many times after i do something, everything is fine.

i think it has to do with some directx initializations.

For the record, my PC can have issues changing from full screen to windowed, its not new to this patch, I am pretty certain its down to the ATI GFX card though.

Dan,

[Scawen]

Gah why can i never extract the files properly.

Is there no easier way to giving out updates?

Sorry to be bitchin but it gets annoying when trying to do stuff like this.It really takes 5 seconds.

1) Put the zip file in your LFS folder.
2) Right click.
3) Select "extract to here".

EDIT : I'm aware that you're not the only one who finds it confusing, and ends up getting the files in the wrong place. I'm considering a self-updating system for later patches. I wouldn't use it for Test Patches but it could be a good thing for Official Patches. It would download the files and put them in place. All you would have to do is run LFS and click "yes" when it asks you if you want to update.

[Jakg]

Gah why can i never extract the files properly.

Is there no easier way to giving out updates?

Sorry to be bitchin but it gets annoying when trying to do stuff like this.what, clicking "extract here" is so hard?

[SladiVadi]

Nice patch! Thank you! :biggrinfl

[Pellick]

for me, the game works...but i cant see any letters, numbers..or else!
i've tried all languages, but i still cant see any word or numbers...
its that normal ??

Look Here :
http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/3457/lfss2au7ka.jpg
http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/6063/lfss2au20cj.jpg

i thank anyone how helps me :)

This happened to me once, I believe I just reinstalled the game instead of trying to fix the issue... But how about reinstalling/updating your graphics card driver? :shrug:

[CHR20000]

getting better, but i often get a "crash to desktop" or even "crah to "computer off"" ...in most cases @ changing windowed > full screen mode ...(got newewst driver updates n everithing else is fine , but W2K!):pillepall

that was in almost every version since s2 came out...local prob?
(no...the grfx card doesnt overheat, its active-coooled)

maybe some of u came across same probs :D this can be annoying...very !:shrug:

[Vain]

@CHR:
It's a local problem.
Firstly, switching between fullscreen and windowed is considered unstable by many gfx-manufacturers (though it works on 99,8% of all mashines). You might try a new DX-version.

Vain

[three_jump]

getting better, but i often get a "crash to desktop" or even "crah to "computer off"" ...in most cases @ changing windowed > full screen mode ...(got newewst driver updates n everithing else is fine , but W2K!):pillepall

that was in almost every version since s2 came out...local prob?
(no...the grfx card doesnt overheat, its active-coooled)

maybe some of u came across same probs :D this can be annoying...very !:shrug:

I'm switching a lot between windowed and full screen mode and never had a crash... maybe it's the w2k what gets screwed up (running xp here). Do you get a crash adress when this happens?

[richy]

i updated my drivers and that crashing while Alt Tabbing went away.

[J.P (GB)]

what, clicking "extract here" is so hard?

Its not hard ive done that i just keep getting it in the wrong file. Ithink i have it done now tho. I renamed the file from LFS Alpha patch s to u bla bla to the original name of alpha p and let it replace/update all the files.


Thanks scawen hope that idea works well. Sorry for the confusion i caused.

[Leroyvl]

Thanks alot for staying close with the users, unique response times! :)

[NPedro]

last time i saw something like that my graphics card was in the process of dieing.

But it works fine in the other versions...

This happened to me once, I believe I just reinstalled the game instead of trying to fix the issue... But how about reinstalling/updating your graphics card driver? :shrug:

i've installed the latest graphic card drives, reinstalled the game after that... but still like before...

(sorry my english)

[Iron_Maiden]

Well the U patch has just fixed my graphics...so I cant complain really...

Nice work developers..:thumb:

[Scawen]

I've just updated the PTH and SMX files for the new Aston.

http://www.liveforspeed.net/?page=analysers

For anyone who doesn't know, PTH and SMX files are used for displaying the track, in replay analysers, spectator programs, and various other addon programs.

[RIP2004]

Nice to see a lot of these small issues fixed now :)

Hopefully acceleration won't be an issue anymore after next patch. Have nice holidays ... :smileypul

[Spies]

Just a heads up for any server admins out there, the track parameter has changed, and config and reversed no longer exist.

This prevented my server starting.

[Honey]

For the record, my PC can have issues changing from full screen to windowed, its not new to this patch, I am pretty certain its down to the ATI GFX card though.

Dan,
thanks to witness i'm not a visionary... :D
i have an asus nvidia 6600.

the strange thing i've never had any issue in any game/app when switching fullscreen/windowed and in lfs only occurs if i execute the exact 3 steps i mentioned before, if i do anything else i can switch lfs fullscreen/windowed like a mad and nothing bad happens...definately one of the less important bugs :D


getting better, but i often get a "crash to desktop" or even "crah to "computer off"" ...in most cases @ changing windowed > full screen mode ...(got newewst driver updates n everithing else is fine , but W2K!):pillepall

that was in almost every version since s2 came out...local prob?
(no...the grfx card doesnt overheat, its active-coooled)

maybe some of u came across same probs :D this can be annoying...very !:shrug:
[sarchasm mode on]
that must be caused by your ISP, everything's fine here :D
[sarchasm mode off]

[vanirl]

Got he patch - thanks a lot great

[Shotglass]

I'm aware that you're not the only one who finds it confusing, and ends up getting the files in the wrong place. I'm considering a self-updating system for later patches. I wouldn't use it for Test Patches but it could be a good thing for Official Patches. It would download the files and put them in place. All you would have to do is run LFS and click "yes" when it asks you if you want to update.

maybe distributing the patches as sfx files would solve the problem for now

[spsamsp]

Hello Racers!

Announcing Patch U : A new official patch for S2 ALPHA :)

We are very pleased with the reaction to the S and T versions.
Various fixes and improvements have been done in the week since
version S was released. Thanks to all who tested and commented
on the test patches. Version U is quite an improvement and we expect
this to be the stable version for some time while we have a little
break then get on with more S2 work, on the way to S2 final.

Version U is fully compatible with versions S and T.


Changes since version S :

Race penalty statistics now sent to LFS World
Changed format of /track host startup command
Removed /config and /reversed startup commands
Some small frame rate optimisations in car draw
Hosts can now display a 200 character welcome message
Added a new command /tracks to specify allowed tracks
OutGauge system for external dashboards (see InSim.txt)
FOX / FO8 / BF1 all have their own dashboard colour slider
Translations and docs folder updated with new translations
Throttle blip on downshift now allowed again with manual clutch
Suspension stronger before it bends but then bends more quickly

FIX : LFS could crash sometimes when leaving a multiplayer game
FIX : Croatian and Serbian should always be correctly selected
FIX : Could view other racers ARB and Brake Balance online
FIX : LFS crash when starting up with Greek or Norwegian
FIX : Aston Grand Touring / North showed up as AS6 / AS7
FIX : Aston lessons had gone wrong with changed objects
FIX : Downloading Skin message was partially off screen
FIX : Could set wind in hotlapping using /wind command
FIX : Commands /track=as6 and /track=as7 did not work
FIX : Number entry in tyre setup menu did not work
FIX : XF GTI acceleration, PRO level was too easy
FIX : Colour alternation on list of games screen
FIX : LFS could crash when drawing a damaged car
FIX : Connecting player with different weather
FIX : Text command /leave had stopped working


PATCH and Full Version Downloads :

http://www.liveforspeed.net/?page=downloads


DEDICATED HOST Download (1.5 MB) :

www.liveforspeed.net/file_lfs.php?name=LFS_S2_DEDI_U.zip (http://www.liveforspeed.net/file_lfs.php?name=LFS_S2_DEDI_U.zip)

Wow... I agree, you guys DO deserve a few weeks off!

[Scawen]

maybe distributing the patches as sfx files would solve the problem for nowNo, that's no easier to use than a zip file, because you still need to put it in the right place. And most people don't want to run an exe, they would prefer to just extract a zip manually.

So it would cause more problems than it would solve. For me it's just zip files or self updater. I'm not interested in self extracting files, installers, etc.

[Shotglass]

No, that's no easier to use than a zip file, because you still need to put it in the right place.

dont think so all theyd need to do is brows to their lfs folder and click extract
either way i prefer zips too but it might help some of the less experienced pc users

[Vain]

dont think so all theyd need to do is brows to their lfs folder and click extractSo what's the exact difference to the current system?

Vain

[tristancliffe]

Quick questions - What does MAX ALPHA OBS mean when online? I just saw that whilst admining the vMax server, but it doesn't seem to have done anything detrimental.

[RevMonkey]

No, that's no easier to use than a zip file, because you still need to put it in the right place. And most people don't want to run an exe, they would prefer to just extract a zip manually.

So it would cause more problems than it would solve. For me it's just zip files or self updater. I'm not interested in self extracting files, installers, etc.
scawen, the only reason why i started playing LFS was because for the longest time i accidentally locked myself out of being able to install stuff, so i couldn't install games, etc. (don't ask me how, it just happened...) and i couldn't reformat because i didn't have an XP CD. so basically lfs was the only game i played because it was the only game i could play, because of the zip... yay scawen!


i dont make sense because im a little tipsy off some green stuff.

[Shotglass]

So what's the exact difference to the current system?

you dont have to use any zip tools which seems to be too complex for some (including a few devolopers ... has anyone tried unpacking the nkp update to their nkp folder ?)

[Vain]

you dont have to use any zip tools which seems to be too complex for some (including a few devolopers ... has anyone tried unpacking the nkp update to their nkp folder ?)That's great! You don't have to use a zip-tool and can now use an installer-tool!

*holds up a sign that says "Danger! Sarcasm! Do not feed!"*

Vain

[Shotglass]

which is essentially what people have been asking for

[AK-Chester]

Thank you very much for all the latest patches! No problems at all with any of them at my end. Enjoy your time off, devs, you've earned it! :)

[shim]

btw should we all setup a setup "Get Scavier f**king drunk" fund?

where they cant spend the money on nothing but alcohole..

[J.B.]

S2 ALPHA - Patch U

In Soviet Russia?

[Live For Kill]

In Soviet Russia?

???

[detail]

In Soviet Russia?
Now you owe me $5 for using this brand!

[Shotglass]

In Soviet Russia?

mwahaha nice one :D

[maczo]

???
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakov_Smirnoff

[detail]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakov_SmirnoffRoses are red
Violets are blue
In Soviet Russia
Poem writes YOU!
:uglyhamme

[csimpok]

Scawen said that he would set Haze effect on as default in the new patch but for me its still off for some reason.

[DEVIL 007]

thanks to witness i'm not a visionary... :D
i have an asus nvidia 6600.
the strange thing i've never had any issue in any game/app when switching fullscreen/windowed and in lfs only occurs if i execute the exact 3 steps i mentioned before, if i do anything else i can switch lfs fullscreen/windowed like a mad and nothing bad happens...definately one of the less important bugs :D

What exact steps?
I have also Asus 6600.
And Using ALT-TAB between fullcreen and windowed mode is not recomended by graphics companies for games because it usuallz works but on some machines it just make weird things.

[DEVIL 007]

Scawen said that he would set Haze effect on as default in the new patch but for me its still off for some reason.
Sorry for a silly question but did you check if you have Haze effect switched on?

[csimpok]

Sorry for a silly question but did you check if you have Haze effect switched on?

??? yes, haze effect is at "no" in otions menu. Or what do you mean?

[DEVIL 007]

??? yes, haze effect is at "no" in otions menu. Or what do you mean?
So turn it on.Whats the issue then?

[D1howie]

haha this is cool, loven it guys, keep up the good work

[AndroidXP]

??? yes, haze effect is at "no" in otions menu. Or what do you mean?
I guess you "just" installed the patch, instead of a full fresh reinstall. In that case the existing cfg is read and most settings are taken from there, so if the haze effect was disabled before, it's still disalbed now.

If you make a fresh install it will be turned on, but the setting will not be overriden by applying the patch. Atleast that's how I understand it.

[lanzerco]

This may be a stoopid question, but if I install this patch will I have to re-register the game and use up one of my licenses? I'm a casual gamer at best... I can probably live without the patch. I would, however, like to be able to drive the F1 car during the occasions I play.

I didn't do a thorough search on the subject... I was just kind of hoping someone would be able to provide a quick answer.

Thanks

[--==Gogo==--]

Yes, you have to unlock the game again after installing the patch. You also have to unlock the game again if you change something on your hardware. Thats how it works. Search this forum. You will find a lot of threads.

And no, you cannot live without the patch! You will not find that much servers hosting the old version. So you can't play online anymore.

[marcione]

patch Q to new versions you need to activate.

patch S / T to U you don´t have to activate S2.

[Scawen]

This may be a stoopid question, but if I install this patch will I have to re-register the game and use up one of my licenses? I'm a casual gamer at best... I can probably live without the patch. I would, however, like to be able to drive the F1 car during the occasions I play.If you haven't already unlocked the F1 version, then you will need to use an unlock. That only takes a few seconds though - it's no big deal. Every month we increase your number of unlocks available, up to a maximum of two. So by using an unlock, you lose... absolutely nothing! :)

[WGooden]

I don't mind this, just wanted to let you know.. I'm getting the same problem with the invisible drivers body in the gti and gt. :(

Think It was the rac and uf1 which had this before, i might have just not seen it with the gti+gt.

[lanzerco]

If you haven't already unlocked the F1 version, then you will need to use an unlock. That only takes a few seconds though - it's no big deal. Every month we increase your number of unlocks available, up to a maximum of two. So by using an unlock, you lose... absolutely nothing! :)
Cool... thanks for the help. And actually I have never raced online yet... I'm still on dial-up (it's not even offered in my rural area), so that doesn't weigh on my decision. I'll do it up and probably get back into it more than my wife and kids would like :D

Again, I appreciate the help, and you've built one helluva game! :thumb:

[Scawen]

I don't mind this, just wanted to let you know.. I'm getting the same problem with the invisible drivers body in the gti and gt. :(

Think It was the rac and uf1 which had this before, i might have just not seen it with the gti+gt.Please describe the problem and provide screenies. But better do it on the bug reports forum. As I've said before, the driver's body should only vanish when you can hardly see it. And that's why I disabled this optimisation on the open top road cars. Just saying you are getting a problem isn't much help at all, because I need to know the specific situations, where a highly visible driver's body is not being drawn.

[Tweaker]

Scawen I saw this today and saved a replay.

I think it might have to do with the driver's helmet not loading.

I have a replay here and watch from inside my car at the 45 second mark. Put it in slow motion and and use your look left key to watch the car to the LEFT of me. As I pull along side him you can see the driver body, but then occassionaly it would dissapear. While I was playing online, I noticed this when I pressed look left. I suppose this is the player that I could not load the helmet for in the beginning. That might be the problem? Either way, I hope this helps. (Oh and I was using a custom view (roof cam)). So this driver was only right beside me, it wasn't far away ;)

OH, and another bug I found while doing this. When the player's suit was invisible, I PAUSED it. When I paused it, I started pressing my look left keys and nothing happened. The view would be 'frozen' to the front view and whenever I pressed the button to look left, the top rear-view mirror would dissapear. Kind of wierd. (Basically just pause the game, and try to look left and right in custom view, it does not work). So it was hard to post a screenshot.

[Tweaker]

And here is a screenshot showing it. While taking this screenshot, the driver was only invisible when the car was showing, but if I put Forces view on, the driver was visible.

[Bulgaria]

Good job

[Da Mc Style]

Why is the arcade mode gone in LFS S2 ALPHA U ?

Could it be a problem if I downloaded the game from 'scratsh' (like the site says, download page) or what is the problem?

Please help me !

Thanks.

[axus]

Why is the arcade mode gone in LFS S2 ALPHA U ?

Could it be a problem if I downloaded the game from 'scratsh' (like the site says, download page) or what is the problem?

Please help me !

Thanks.

Arcade mode? There never was arcade mode and if it was ever put in, you'd never see me on these forums again. EVER.

[AK-Chester]

:scratchch Arcade mode in :lfs:...?

[Scoop]

Run Da Mc Style, RUN u said ARCADE on lfs forum u're in for a 50 page thread of mad ppl that hate the word arcade :shrug:

[Frankmd]

Maybe he mis-used the word arcade, and means S2?

Dunno how anyone could mix those up, tbh, but when it's late I can mix up about ever pair of words I know :D

[AK-Chester]

I don't hate the word "arcade" at all, it's just that I don't see what :lfs: has got to do with. :shrug:

[axus]

Maybe you were driving GTR? That has arcade mode...

[Jakg]

Why is the arcade mode gone in LFS S2 ALPHA U ?

Could it be a problem if I downloaded the game from 'scratsh' (like the site says, download page) or what is the problem?

Please help me !

Thanks.would you be the same mcazerty that admitted to using an unlocker in your sig for practice for your demo team?

[Da Mc Style]

... i have seen screenshots whit an extra option in the menu in the game (lfs) on top of the other options (means on top of training option) ... what is this?

P.S.: No unlockers for me, thanks.

[Tweaker]

Those are joke screenshots. Nothing real. Nothing to see... move on now :)

[(SaM)]

Haha I made that screen. :) Funny to see someone actually believed it.

[NetDemon01]

Please describe the problem and provide screenies. But better do it on the bug reports forum. As I've said before, the driver's body should only vanish when you can hardly see it. And that's why I disabled this optimisation on the open top road cars. Just saying you are getting a problem isn't much help at all, because I need to know the specific situations, where a highly visible driver's body is not being drawn.

It just had to do with the User LOD. I put mine down around .80 and the driver body would disappear at certain points of a turn when in chase view. It only disappears when it is a certain distance away from the camera depending on the User LOD. I cranked it up to 1.00 and the body is visible all the time from what I can tell.

At any User LOD below .80, the body is invisible in chase view all the time.

[tehxan]

LONG LIVE THE DEVS!

many thanks scawen :D :D :D

[Tweaker]

It just had to do with the User LOD. I put mine down around .80 and the driver body would disappear at certain points of a turn when in chase view. It only disappears when it is a certain distance away from the camera depending on the User LOD. I cranked it up to 1.00 and the body is visible all the time from what I can tell.

At any User LOD below .80, the body is invisible in chase view all the time.

My User LOD has always been 1.00. I tested it with my replay, changing the amount, and it didn't help. It was always dissapearing for me. Maybe it is another option connected with the LOD.

[AndroidXP]

The only other thing I can think of affecting the LOD is the "Screen width affects LOD" option. Try switching that on/off, because if you run anything different than 1024x768 then this option modifies the LOD, too.

[muhaa]

Im having axis trouble it keep's twiching strange since this new patch i have logitech dual action controller with new driver's any one else had the same problem...:schwitz:

[bo-kristiansen]

I also have the driver body vanish problem.
FOV 80º and LOD 1.00
- and like allready stated,
its when the camera in tv view get more than a certain distance away.
...in the single seater cars its working fine though.

-another thing... sometimes it seems like the suit is "changing" when it incloses a certain distance in tv view.

[SNUFF]

I think since i installed this Patch, my FPS going down everytime anyone is going out of the Box, or joining the Server. Clean Racing isn't posible anymore because sometimes i have VERY low FPS, then i cant steering :eclipsee_ and hitting a wall, player or something else.



Is there a way to deinstall this Patch :confused:

[Bob Smith]

Yes, unextract the LFS U .exe from the upgrade or install zip (that you should still have lying around somewhere - else get the smallest update from the liveforspeed website).

Edit: bah, thought this was the U8 thread. You can downgrade to an older version, say patch Q... but you won't be able to race online, and the cars will handle different. So, erm, anyone?

[BuddhaBing]

I think the latest version posted for download at the main site http://www.liveforspeed.net/?page=downloads is version U, so you should be able to download the latest version listed and use the LFS.exe from that.