Tired of the BF1 yet?

[farcar]

Let me qualify my statement...er, question.
The BF1 is the biggest inclusion to LFS since I discovered this game. It was a huge coup by the devs. It is an absolute thrill to drive,it has been implimented very well in to the game and will bring much deserved kudos (and extra income) to the devs.
The BF1 has potential for legendary league events; the car is made for longer distance races where strategy and pure concentration cannot be better exhibited.

But it is not made for 5 lap races at Blackwood with 20 car grids.

The unfortunacy (new word) is that this combo is dominating the public servers to the detriment of all other classes. The well documented T1 pileups are inevitable and annoying. More annoying than in other car classes as they are more likely to be unrecoverable.
The 'racing' I have found to be almost non existant. It's pure survival, just dodging other drivers mistakes while tring not to make one yourself. I don't think I've ever actually overtaken someone without them making a mistake of sorts. I've also noticed that because the speeds are so high, any hint of lag is much more noticable which is bad.

Meanwhile, the other great improvements to the game which apply to all car classes are being ignored. The F08 for example feels perfect now wit the new physics and is dying for a good thrash online, but nobody is hosting it. The same goes for the RWD TBO cars. Great fun, nobody driving 'em

This is by no means a doom and gloom post saying that the new patch sucks or that the devs got it wrong. Quite the opposite. I'm saying lets enjoy the whole patch and not just the standout feature of it. The devs made a lot of improvement to the game apart from the BF1.

Lets use the BF1 in it's proper element; longer distance races on GP style tracks and leave the 5 lap races at Blackwood to the road cars.

[DasBoeseC]

LI don't think I've ever actually overtaken someone without them making a mistake of sorts.


.....isn't modern days F1-Racing cool?


:smileypul

[danowat]

I was tired of it within a day or two, F1 just doesnt press my buttons or float my boat unfortunatly :shrug:

Dan,

[Gabkicks]

i like the BF1... but it's hard to have a decent race with it. most people are crappy at driving it so there is lots of wrecking. Its pretty sad... :shrug:
i've decided to wait for the noobs to grow tired of crashing the BF1.

[Qurpiz]

I am tired of it. It is nice in a little longer races, but as said, in 5 lap races in BL or other rather short track, it's just not the car to go with.

FOX and FO8 are way more fun anyways.

[dave81983]

I actually see a lot more servers for TBO, lx4 and Rac/FZ5/lx6. Although this may just be because since the patch more people are playing and the numbers will die off again in a month or so.

But i agree, I have hardly played the BF1 online at all. Im crap in it and so are most others!

For me you just cant beat the closer racing that the road cars give you. I never use the GTR cars.

I do agree with you that the FOX and FO8 are awesome now. Much better than the BF1 IMO.

Dave.

[SchneeFee]

u r right in when saying puplic bf1 racing is a kind of adventure. but if also had great racing in the bf1 already. i think the point is: it needs more skill than the the gtrs for example, cos reaction time is so low. To me it feels almost racing an RC car onboard, although RC racing has an even faster pace. http://www.stoffl.net/rmcmovies/rmcaction.avi

once u have a got set, and found the rythem - u can have great racing.

the problem that there are lots of bf1 hosts will solve itself in near future. sooner or later ppl will get tierd of it, and switch back to the older cars.:)

[the_angry_angel]

20Laps of BLGP in the BF1 can be a little like dodging the back markers / those who have crashed, I must admit. Though if you get a good battle going with someone, it can be very interesting. I had a number of good races on this combo, at this length.

[Vain]

I drove the BF1 for half an hour in singleplayer, got it well controlled without TC, found it to be unsuitable for public racing (see above) and went with the other cars.

By the way, FO8 on AS North is a great combo. :thumb:
I'd love to see it hosted.

Vain

[bo-kristiansen]

I dont know.. I havent driven it yet :shrug:
...and actually I dont really care about the BF1.

[mejlus]

most people are crappy at driving it so there is lots of wrecking. Its pretty sad... :shrug:
i've decided to wait for the noobs to grow tired of crashing the BF1.

The other day me and other racer were racing UF1000s on Aston Cadet. The grid was we two with uf1000 and some 8-10 guys with BF1s or FZRs. Sometimes we were finishing in 4th or 5th place... That says it all :shrug:

[Stellios]

I still love it for flying around blackwood by myself, but for a race the smaller cars are still the best, im finding that the UF GTR is an absolutte scream in race conditions as long as your not too serious and its only 3 laps or so.

[Bob Smith]

Hardly driven BF1. Real men don't need downforce. ;)

[Matrixi]

I still prefer FOX over BF1.. the FOX just gives much closer racing and there's more time for reacting. :) Don't get me wrong, I think driving the BF1 around south city is a BLAST, but it stresses me a bit too much for longer races.

FOX :lovies3d:

[MyBoss]

.....isn't modern days F1-Racing cool?
:smileypul


Yep, LFS Formula 1 racing and Real life Formula 1 racing is exactly the same. :shrug:
How about watching some races?

[nmanley]

Hardly driven BF1. Real men don't need downforce. ;)

That's about how I see it. I like some downforce but on the Fox and GTR type cars. I haven't driven but 3 offline laps with the BF 1 as it's just a different animal than all the others. I don't care to unlearn my feel from the others, yet. :shrug:

[ruckus37]

I was tired of it within a day or two, F1 just doesnt press my buttons or float my boat unfortunatly :shrug:

Dan,

I’m guessing not much presses your buttons if bf1 doesn’t.

[XCNuse]

..lol i havent touched any other car except the formula 1 since we got it

[silentwarrior]

Where the BF1 really shines is in tracks with loads of turns, and low speeds, like fern bay, where someone with ice cold nerves can make really great overtakes on the turns, yet, if you cannot control yourself you will crash others, or wear your tyres so much that they will blow in just 3 laps, its all about nerves, tactic, low TC (or even none, you must control your throtle or you will burn out all your tyres and start spinning) and good over the gears, this is where all the BF1 fun is hidden.

With this sayed, my point of view is that we need a new track to match this fantastic car, if we had the Monaco race track on the game, with the original F1 championship configuration we would see this car shinning, this track combines all great aspects of this car into one fast paced, hard and scary as shit (accelarating in uprising turns with walls on both sides really close, thats FUN!!! ) racing.


I would pay the normal 12 pounds just to get that track !

Best regards
SilentWarrior

[tristancliffe]

I got bored of the Sauber (I still refuse to call it a BMW, as the Sauber is a good car) after about 2 hours. I've still played it despite that, but it's a completely awful experience with the noobs online (some of whom should no better). Anyone who hasn't tried to other cars post-patch is a fool, as they are very different now.

I'm hoping in a couple of months everyone will have realised they can't drive well enough for the BF1, so that I can begin to enjoy it.

[Aphot]

We need a big diesel 4X4 truck with a camping tralier.

[XCNuse]

We need a big diesel 4X4 truck with a camping tralier.
RV racing lol :scratchch

[Gunn]

Some members will recall that when the MRT was introduced it dominated servers for months. Currently I'm enjoying the BF1 but still drive the FOX and FZR more. I have found that I can go a lot faster in all cars than I would have thought possible. Slowly tweaking my sets and the PBs are being anihilated.

The real best news about the new patch and the new car is what it does for leagues and organised racing. Now that certain aero bugs have been squashed and the tyres have improved I expect that those guys who compete in organised events will be taking a huge step forward this year. I think more racers will have the confidence to participate in events now.

[Crowella]

I feel the same way as most people. I get onto open servers, hoping to practice the FZR, and suddenly, 5 people come on. Yes, goodie, competition to race against.

Shame its their own competition. ALL of them drive BF1's. Even around the small circuits, with very few laps. It's kind of sad that people are just 'obsessed' with the BF1 to race it non stop. I hope for their sake they try the other cars and see how much better they are.

I'm not against the BF1 at all, it's just online racing is getting dominated by the BF1, and I'm growing a little weary of it.

About the patch, I agree with you on the 2nd paragraph Gunn. The cars seem much more 'friendly' in my opinion, and I am feeling ever more confident with the cars.

[WGooden]

By the way, FO8 on AS North is a great combo. :thumb:
I'd love to see it hosted.

Vain

Yep, just as sweet on North rev also. :)

The BF1 is alot of fun to lap in, because of teh uber speed and insane grip. It's possible to have good races with it, just with the right people, and not too many that can't drive it. I've been having the most fun with the fo8 and fox, I love em now !!1!1!11

[RacingSimFan]

Blackwood is too short.

AS North and KY GP Long are the perfect tracks for this car but since people are still obsessed with lapping under a minute like the Guru said, a server with any other combo is a ghost town.

Does anyone here know what a Lemming is...:scratchch:razz:

[WGooden]

Yeah, I hate driving the BF1 on blackwood, drove there the first day for a bit and that was it. I see all these full servers with blackwood BF1, but I can't see how it could be any fun. The track just doesn't fit that car, the turns are too tight or something, I dunno.

[Marty502]

Servers full of BF1@Blackwood!? :pillepall

Why!? Don't you guys do that one in like 55 seconds?

I'd do the Aston/Kyoto Grand Prix layouts all day long. :D

[Borbor]

never drove it much to tell you the truth.

still can't get rid of my obsession with the FOX.

[mrodgers]

I’m guessing not much presses your buttons if bf1 doesn’t.
My problem isn't that not much presses my buttons, it's all the changing of buttons.

The BF1 is way to fast to take your hand off the steering wheel to shift.
Therefore I have to go into the options to switch to paddles.

I have look left/right set up on paddles. Need paddles to shift BF1.
Therefore I have to go into the options to switch my left/right views.

Open wheeler's are too twitchy the way I have LFS setup.
Therefore I have to go into the options and change "wheel turn compensate".

I hate driving with the wheel displayed (I already see one, mounted to my desk). The BF1's gauges are on the wheel.
Therefore I have to go into the options and turn on at least the steering wheel or virtual gauges.

Just too much to change to run the BF1. I'll stick to the FZR and try out some of the RWD roadcars with the new physics. Just wish everything wasn't either all cars, Blackwood, or both.

[richy]

My problem isn't that not much presses my buttons, it's all the changing of buttons.

The BF1 is way to fast to take your hand off the steering wheel to shift.
Therefore I have to go into the options to switch to paddles.

I have look left/right set up on paddles. Need paddles to shift BF1.
Therefore I have to go into the options to switch my left/right views.

Open wheeler's are too twitchy the way I have LFS setup.
Therefore I have to go into the options and change "wheel turn compensate".

I hate driving with the wheel displayed (I already see one, mounted to my desk). The BF1's gauges are on the wheel.
Therefore I have to go into the options and turn on at least the steering wheel or virtual gauges.

Just too much to change to run the BF1. I'll stick to the FZR and try out some of the RWD roadcars with the new physics. Just wish everything wasn't either all cars, Blackwood, or both.

Exactly. :thumb:

[deggis]

BF1 is really made for long races. Just had today 45 lapper, not really close racing on KY Nat but it's just fun.

I'm more pissed off by the "all cars servers" which are basicly BF1 servers: http://torttu.net/temp/lfs/gg.jpg - WTF?! Obivously server admins have no brains.

I hoped LXs could be more popular cars with the new physics but it doesn't really seem like that, right after the release I saw many FZ50/RAC/LX6 servers but not anymore. :shrug:

[farcar]

I'm more pissed off by the "all cars servers" which are basicly BF1 servers: http://torttu.net/temp/lfs/gg.jpg - WTF?! Obivously server admins have no brains.
Yep, and if they had a more sensible selection of cars, they might get more people in 'em.

[felplacerad]

I hoped LXs could be more popular cars with the new physics but it doesn't really seem like that, right after the release I saw many FZ50/RAC/LX6 servers but not anymore. :shrug:

someone needs to be the first to join, cause i bet everyone hides the empty servers.

[Haegar.AT]

The other day me and other racer were racing UF1000s on Aston Cadet. The grid was we two with uf1000 and some 8-10 guys with BF1s or FZRs. Sometimes we were finishing in 4th or 5th place... That says it all :shrug:

Yes, that was a fun racing with you, Mejlus, but I still need a lot more practice before I can be a match for you :(. But driving UF1000 against BF1 is like always having one eye on the mirror, watching for the tiny coloured dot appearing, which, about one second later, will become a huge BF1 overtaking you with 250+.

Hope I see you again somewhere out there.

Klaus

[Crowella]

Yes, that was a fun racing with you, Mejlus, but I still need a lot more practice before I can be a match for you :(. But driving UF1000 against BF1 is like always having one eye on the mirror, watching for the tiny coloured dot appearing, which, about one second later, will become a huge BF1 overtaking you with 250+.

Hope I see you again somewhere out there.

Klaus
I quite agree here. I had a race in a UF1, suddenly, people join racing BF1's. When the race starts, I'm stuck between BF1's... and what am I to do, I'm in a UF1. I just simply pull straight out of the way.

It's great to have the BF1's, don't get me wrong, but they are just seeming well and truly overused, mostly by noobs that just want sheer speed to think they are good. Even then, I feel great when I've got the UF1 and overtake a BF1 that just spun. Can't resist a laugh. :D

[JoeCool]

Some members will recall that when the MRT was introduced it dominated servers for months.......

ive searched for this statement before posting it myself. thats it. its the hype for a new sensational car, nothing more, nothing less. LFS will continue :nod:

[V-Steve]

The bf1 is nothing short of awesome when hotlapping or racing with people around the same skills/speed, i've yet to do many longer races with strategys etc but this is where the bf1 will come into its own. Unfortunately as has already been said public servers and bf1 generally speaking dont mix i love to race with a full field or at least 10+ cars but with the bf1 (same with other cars but probably not noticed as much) you get to turn1 brake early to ensure you dont hit the car in front look in your mirror and see someone bearing down on you at 200mph who thinks he can overtake the other 19drivers at the 1st bend and win the race which 9times out of 10 will result in taking out numerous cars or if by some miracle he should make turn1 you then see him spun out at turn2 or of course my current main hate of public servers you race 7or8 laps someone joins the server and tries to restart instantly as if we are all meant to stop because they have arrived.... that or they come blasting out the pitlane totally oblivious to the fact the leaders will be coming up on them and taking them out... that or trying to 'race' the leaders which as we all know only ends up 1 way.

Ok this has turned into a bit of a rant but the end result = bf1 awesome car but best to race in a community of people you know on private servers!

[Flycantbird]

By the way, FO8 on AS North is a great combo. :thumb:
I'd love to see it hosted.
Vain

F08 is great on all the long tracks now ! So much fun now that you dont go spinning off backwards when you turn and brake.

I love this car since the patch, it's the new FOX:scratchch

As for BF1, I like it, but I'm not anxious to devote much time to it right now. Eventually all the people driving it who shouldn't be will get tired of it
( just like F08 after S2 ).

Personally, I think F1 racing is exciting, but it's ultimatly just a matter of opinion. I can see why people might not like it. It's ultra high tension, but not the tension of the guy next to you passing you, rather, the tension that you might make a tiny mistake and the guy behind you will pass you.

That kind of intense focus for 50 laps isn't for everyone. Banging fenders with cars isn't for me - which is as I say all down to personal opinion. There is no right or wrong.

Running 5 lap sprints on SO Classic in the BF1 is hard to imagine, but it sure is fun on the long tracks.

[Hyperactive]

After trying some BF1 servers I am more conviced than ever that we need the credits system back from S1!

50% of the people racing the BF1 don't know how to brake, accelerate, pass, obey flags or start. I am not saying that I am that great driver myself, but starting from the middle of the pack means 100% certainty that someone will ram you, whatever you do.

Just 5 steps to happiness:
Base level: demo cars + UF1 available.
1st stage: 200 credits required / gives FXO, RB4, LX4
2nd stage: 400 credits required / gives LX6, MRT, RAC, FZ50
3rd stage: 600 credits required / gives UF GTR, XF GTR
4th stage: 800 credits required / gives FOX and big GTRs
5th stage: 1000 credits required / gives F08 and BF1

And points should be given by distance driven rather than finishing order. Of course some of the points should be give on the basis of finishing order, as finishing in top three usually means that the driver can handle the car. So newbies get points as well, and are rewarded by finishing race on end of the grid :)

Maybe 2 points per lap and 1-10 points for 1-10 finishers...?

As LFS is a racing sim, we shouldn't need these kind of arcade features, but imho it seems that it is a choise between BF1 and good races. :shrug:

[Gabkicks]

maybe force them to complete training?

[Hyperactive]

maybe force them to complete training?

I would have suggested that, but imho, the training lessons teach nothing about racing. We need lessons that show what is yellow flag, what it means, what is blue flag etc...

[Gabkicks]

yeah maybe new training on blue flag and yellow flag procedures. maybe a written test... i'm serious

[MAGGOT]

.....isn't modern days F1-Racing cool?


:smileypul


:tilt: :D

[Sternendaal]

After trying some BF1 servers I am more conviced than ever that we need the credits system back from S1!

50% of the people racing the BF1 don't know how to brake, accelerate, pass, obey flags or start. I am not saying that I am that great driver myself, but starting from the middle of the pack means 100% certainty that someone will ram you, whatever you do.

Just 5 steps to happiness:
Base level: demo cars + UF1 available.
1st stage: 200 credits required / gives FXO, RB4, LX4
2nd stage: 400 credits required / gives LX6, MRT, RAC, FZ50
3rd stage: 600 credits required / gives UF GTR, XF GTR
4th stage: 800 credits required / gives FOX and big GTRs
5th stage: 1000 credits required / gives F08 and BF1

And points should be given by distance driven rather than finishing order. Of course some of the points should be give on the basis of finishing order, as finishing in top three usually means that the driver can handle the car. So newbies get points as well, and are rewarded by finishing race on end of the grid :)

Maybe 2 points per lap and 1-10 points for 1-10 finishers...?

As LFS is a racing sim, we shouldn't need these kind of arcade features, but imho it seems that it is a choise between BF1 and good races. :shrug:

:thumb:

[deggis]

After trying some BF1 servers I am more conviced than ever that we need the credits system back from S1!

50% of the people racing the BF1 don't know how to brake, accelerate, pass, obey flags or start. I am not saying that I am that great driver myself, but starting from the middle of the pack means 100% certainty that someone will ram you, whatever you do.

Just 5 steps to happiness:
Base level: demo cars + UF1 available.
1st stage: 200 credits required / gives FXO, RB4, LX4
2nd stage: 400 credits required / gives LX6, MRT, RAC, FZ50
3rd stage: 600 credits required / gives UF GTR, XF GTR
4th stage: 800 credits required / gives FOX and big GTRs
5th stage: 1000 credits required / gives F08 and BF1

And points should be given by distance driven rather than finishing order. Of course some of the points should be give on the basis of finishing order, as finishing in top three usually means that the driver can handle the car. So newbies get points as well, and are rewarded by finishing race on end of the grid :)

Maybe 2 points per lap and 1-10 points for 1-10 finishers...?

As LFS is a racing sim, we shouldn't need these kind of arcade features, but imho it seems that it is a choise between BF1 and good races. :shrug:
Little addition, that you could drive every car with 0 credits but only in single player. That would be more reasonable.

[GerG]

Little addition, that you could drive every car with 0 credits but only in single player. That would be more reasonable.

That way distance driven in single player should be counted too, but that way it would be stored on your local computer, and you know what the problem is with locally stored data :D

Anyways, the idea is good :)

[Bob Smith]

Just 5 steps to happiness:
...
The idea is good but flawed. The trouble is, much like S1 credits, you could eventually unlock every car by only driving the UF1. What does that teach you about the handling differences in different drivetrain layouts, or throttle control in the cars with big power?

Ignoring credits, if some sort of "car unlocking" system was introduced, you would need to progress through chains. Sort of like:

FWD:
UF1 / XFG => FXO => UFR/XFR

RWD (road):
XRG => XRT => FZ50 / RAC => FXR/XRR/FZR
......... LX4 => LX6 ........... => as above

AWD:
RB4

Formula:
MRT5 => FOX => FO8 = > BF1


Thus 5 cars are available straight away, and somewhat quickly you'd be able to unlock 9 cars, a little more effort and you could be at 15. Only the F1 takes some time to get since you'd have to prove your worth in the FO8 first. I'm not happy with the big GTR cars in that "progression diagram" but can't think where else to but them.

As for the criteria to meet to unlock the next car, I haven't given that any thought.

[dawesdust_12]

I think that bobs Idea would work quite well, as long as in SP you could still free drive and for unlocking, maybe you gain 5 credits /KM you drive and get 10 credits for finishing 50 for winning, 40 for 2nd, 30 for 3rd and 20 for 4th. and set reasonable amounts for earning credits, like maybe 500 for the FO8-BF1 update, and 100 for the more simple transitions, and 250 for the road - GTR ones?

Remember each class has the specific limits. so LX4==> LX6 would be 100 and XRG ==>XRT =100 and XRT==>FZ5/RAC =100 more and FZ5/RAC ==> GTR = 250?

[Hyperactive]

Little addition, that you could drive every car with 0 credits but only in single player. That would be more reasonable.

Yes, of course. I meant it that if you want to drive the F08, for example, online, you need the credits mentioned, but offline you can whatever you want :)

The idea is good but flawed. The trouble is, much like S1 credits, you could eventually unlock every car by only driving the UF1. What does that teach you about the handling differences in different drivetrain layouts, or throttle control in the cars with big power?
...
...

But if a player drives the UF1 for 1000 credits and then has access to all cars, it isn't actually a problem since the sustem shouldn't force you to drive cars you don't want to drive. Take the XFR/UFR/FXO/GTi for example. I just can't stand the idea of driving an fwd car. :)

And as the driver drives the UF1 for 1000 credits, he/she has certainly learned a lot from that car. You still learn throttle control plus other driving techniques, even in UF1. And the main point should be to learn race driving.

EDIT: the reason why the FOX should be in the "same class" as the big GTRs is that the FOX is so agile and fast car. You can have good close racing in that little formula, but the drivers must see and understand what's going on around them. As you can make very fast turns and maneuvers, you always need to check that there is no one in your way.

[Chris_Kerry]

Using credits would difficult full stop imo.

I'm o.k in the FOX in which I spend pretty much most of my time driving atm because of the lack of time I have for LFS and the fact I can jump in it straight away and be ok.

If this unlocking feature came in, would I have to learn to drive the UF1 etc etc just to unlock my favourite car?

What about those who have done millions of miles doing the oval racing, are you going to allow them to have ll the cars unlocked even though the probably can't drive them!?

[Hyperactive]

Using credits would difficult full stop imo.

I'm o.k in the FOX in which I spend pretty much most of my time driving atm because of the lack of time I have for LFS and the fact I can jump in it straight away and be ok.

If this unlocking feature came in, would I have to learn to drive the UF1 etc etc just to unlock my favourite car?

What about those who have done millions of miles doing the oval racing, are you going to allow them to have ll the cars unlocked even though the probably can't drive them!?

No. In my system (hyperaktzione unclocking mechanism XXL) you could drive the FOX in offline races and get your points there.

I really haven't though it that much, but there should be some kind of "shortcut" for the more experience players who know how to handle the cars and themselves online.

But aren't you bothered that some people just don't know how to drive? At all.

[der_jackal]

Just going to throw out some ideas (some have already been touched on);

Allowing server to require n of complete hot laps in a car offline before you can race that car it online?

What about a 110% rule for HotLap times? A matching system where servers can stipulate where only people within 110% of a preset lap time can race on that server?

How about a class / points licensing system? Allow servers to lock races for that license (or above and below if you want) only. Each license is obtained after x number of races online w/ no DQs or send offs AND best lap times are within nnn% of best lap time of that race.

/just thinking out loud.

[gremwood]

I think the Devs COULD make Blackwood a little wider, cnsidering the fact that Demo Gameplay sucks. I'm also considering the purchse of S2 liscense, and it would be fun to play Blackwood with a little bigger track and wider, too.

[rabidmaddog]

Just like seeing Anna Kournikova lift her tennis skirt, the BF1 does nothing for me. I want something fast and exciting like street sweepers, garbage trucks, steam rollers, and earth movers...

How someone can not be excited by the BF1 is really beyond me :shrug: :pillepall
F1 is pretty much the pinnacle of road racing in my opinion.

[Ball Bearing Turbo]

What about a 110% rule for HotLap times? A matching system where servers can stipulate where only people within 110% of a preset lap time can race on that server?


Fast drivers are not necessarily good racers though.

[Gabkicks]

exactly :) often i'll beat guys that are capable of going a couple seconds faster than me per lap because they dont know how to pass cleanly.

But "battle skills" mostly come with experience and along with that comes speed.
:scratchch

the gtr class cars are even more fun to drive now. :) closer racing nowadays. i can actually keep up with the fz with my xrr now

[Chris_Kerry]

But aren't you bothered that some people just don't know how to drive? At all.

Of course I'm bothered but unfortunatly with the current options avaliable it wouldn't be possible in my opinion.

Then theres the problem of those who feel once they have paid £24 they are entitled to the full game online and offline.

The only surefire way of dealing with this is for more people to race in leagues etc.

[Iron_Maiden]

The BF1 is great ....offline..

but I find online it moves so fast and I cant react to things in time.....i'm not an F1 driver after all....

Also, the BF1 will probably have attracted a load of new players who's lack of experience shows up on crowded servers...


FOX, on south city classic...20 odd cars competing is still great....and if you can get up the front....you feel like a god. :D

In fact, I think the servers like that attract the best racers....which is good. The new physics have given much better racing as passing is now down to pure skill rather than someone getting a little out of shape and flying off.

[ShannonN]

I’m guessing not much presses your buttons if bf1 doesn’t.

Not everyone is amazed by f1 cars , sure they fly but many here seem to prefer cars not the open wheel class, I for one wouldve rather seen a car ( non lx series or open wheel) with a V8 than the bmw, it came as a bit of a shock and I'd always had the ntion that the devs wouldn't accept any sort of money to put manufacturers stuff in the game?

I guess it was to cater to the F1 crowd here they did it to stop them whining, what next, NOS for the 4 cyl fast & furious crowd?

I'd really like to hear Scawen tells us how and why the BMW came about in case i'm being very generalized and unfair with my comments maybe no money changed hands, maybe they all are driving new BMW cars who knows who cares their game isn't it?

[der_jackal]

Fast drivers are not necessarily good racers though.

Very true, but at least you know you're dealing with somebody who can keep it between the white lines at the speed you're used to.

So while you've not culled every bad driver, you've at least reduced the amount of bad drivers you're likely to face.

Passing is an art, not learned easily and I'd hazard a guess that the majority of the people out there racing on servers don't know how to do it properly. But if you can keep the rolling chicances, first corner foul ups and mobile missles out of your race, your chances of having a better race over all just went up.

Like I said, thinking out loud. But I like the licensing, to get a LFS <Super, Class A, B or C> license you have to complete x number of online races, no DQs, no bans, laps within nnn% of the best lap of the race.

Lots of infrastructure to implement, but could be a useful system. You're not blocked from running any car, you don't have to unlock anything, but you can't race on every server out there.

I'll shuddup now.

[Mikkomattic]

Not tired of it at all. It's a truly magnificent car to get into for some MAJOR change of scenery/experience versus the others. It's too difficult to race properly with most people, including my sucky self. But it's there, I take it out now and then in a race, and I really enjoy having it around.

Especially around the time of a real F1 race.. :)

[Goop]

Good to see you're still about ShannonN... I :really: 'ed as well regarding official sponsorship... but I have no idea of the ins and outs, so no comment.

Like most, I'm over the BF1. I find it close to zero-fun at Blackwood, and it's far more irritating than it is rewarding dodging spinners, late-braking heroes and oblivious backmarkers. Would be good in a league with others that know the combination, but honestly... I think it's just too much car for me :D

GTRs and LXes please :tilt:

[typhoonf1]

I think the general feeling amongst many is that they are sick of the BF1 on Blackwood (a problem given the number of servers running that combo at the moment).

I have raced the BF1 with smaller groups (5-6 people) on WE and KY Nat and it was great fun. I joined a server last night on Blackwood and left again within 20 minutes.

Finally, has anyone ever seen an F1 race with sub 1-minute laps?

[RacingSimFan]

I think the general feeling amongst many is that they are sick of the BF1 on Blackwood (a problem given the number of servers running that combo at the moment).

I have raced the BF1 with smaller groups (5-6 people) on WE and KY Nat and it was great fun. I joined a server last night on Blackwood and left again within 20 minutes.

Finally, has anyone ever seen an F1 race with sub 1-minute laps?

Correct. BF1 is perfect for the long tracks like KY GP and AS North but hardly anybody runs them. Buzzing around Blackwood in under a minute got real old to me but since so many people still gleefully plunge themselves into that chaos that's all we ever see most of the time.

Now as I look on the active server list I see hardly any BF1 servers now and only 1 on Blackwood. The busiest is the Oval server (go figure). I hope people haven't got too burnt out by the whole BF1/BL craze because like I said there are other tracks that are tailor-made to this car and I'm confident that more people would enjoy it if servers would use those tracks.