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xagna
26th April 2006, 01:34
I have a problem with controlling gas pedal... that is "feathering" it. Particularly when I exit a corner. If I step on the gas pedal too light, then I loose a second and if I step on it too strong, I spin or oversteer too much almost like drifting. I can't find right amount of gas pedal input in XRT or any cars with better performance.
At the instant I feel the tire sstarting to slip or rear end starting to move, I take my feet off of gas pedal so that I apply only half of input. I try not to take my feet off completely. Still the car spins or acceleration gets too slow.
Are there any methods to solve this?
Kris-Is-Awesome
26th April 2006, 01:37
Dont punch the throttle- EASE into it, EASE out of it
xagna
26th April 2006, 01:50
I try to do it smooth. I can't find how much smooth is good without compromising the time. Is there any formula or anything like that besides blindly trying?
xapexcivicx
26th April 2006, 02:19
Well my only suggestion would be to watch and learn. Here are the current World Records for blackwood GP with the XFG, XRG, and XRT, which I have attatched, but you can always find them on www.lfsworld.net.
Hope they help :)
Put them in the LFS/Data/SPR folder :)
Oh btw, in rear wheel drive cars such as the XRT and XRG you need to countersteer, but something tells me you know this already.
96 GTS
26th April 2006, 03:02
I try to do it smooth. I can't find how much smooth is good without compromising the time. Is there any formula or anything like that besides blindly trying?
There's no "forumula" unfortunately. Driving is, by nature, a seat-of-the-pants activity, problem being your seat tells you nothing on a sim. All I can say is practice, practice, practice, and eventually, you'll know just the right amount of throttle/brake/steering to use. It takes a lot of time, but if you were all of the sudden perfect overnight, what would be the fun in that? ;)
xagna
28th April 2006, 17:04
Thanks a lot guys! I will practice and practice.
tenmantaylor
28th April 2006, 17:13
Hey xagna!
Stick at it mate.
There isnt a formula HOWEVER one technique ive been using since the BF1 was unleashed on us (praise be to the lord) is apply the acceleration in direct correlation to straightening up the wheel. This seems to be how the real F1 drivers do it IMO.
Iv noticed this on the BF1 more than the other high performance cars in LFS.
The alternative in the BF1 is to slam the throttle and let the TC kick in deep but you hav to make sure you got the TC to the right setting for your style. I think 3.8 slip is best at the minute.
There are some setup tips like having high power/low coast (eg 60/40) diff settings and increase your rear toe in slightly can also aid stability.
Woz
28th April 2006, 23:16
There will be times you feel you are "drifting" around a corner but in reality you are not, Its just the rears in slip angle which is where you want them for the best power transfer past the apex. Practice and then watch your replays to see what I mean.
And as for lifting when the rear steps, dont lift quickly as this will just add lift off oversteer into an already unstable car. Sometimes you just need to hold your nerve and throttle position and fight your way out with countersteer.
What you miss in a sim is feeling weight transfer and G so when you drive in LFS and other sims try to imagine where the weight is distributed and what effect you inputs will have on that weight distribution. It will become natural in the end and you will find you no longer have to think about it, you just know.
FF helps here so learn to read the FF as it does give you loads of info. I have a DFP and run 100% in control panel and 120% FF in LFS and yet never really feel I have to fight the wheel. Instead I listen to what it tells me and react so they I work with the forces and not against them.
But in the end its all practice, practice practice :)
Thanks a lot guys!
With your advice, I was able to save 3 more seconds. In XRT at Blackwood, now I record 1:28:38. Still have 6 more seconds to save.
Ball Bearing Turbo
1st May 2006, 18:18
One thought that may or may not help, is that sometimes is only necessary to lift for a fraction of a second and then get back on it. Especially if you're running a bit wide, usually all it takes to put the car where you want again is a very very breif lift off and then back on the throttle.... This seems to aid in getting the car to turn in and plant hard for the exit, at least for me :shrug:
SKurjz
1st May 2006, 18:47
One other option open to you is to short shift on corner exit, get up a gear before hitting the gas. You may not have as much power to put down at the lower revs, but you may find you get more to the ground and less wasted.
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