It sucks...

[Kris-Is-Awesome]

When you find this wonderful game, and you absoluteley love it, yet you can't afford a liscense. I've been playing with the "Demo" version since December, and i just cant get the cash to buy a liscense. Is there anyone, or any place that sells liscenses for less? $42 or however much it is is alot of cash to me, and I am 16. Around here there are no job oppertunities, and even so, I am too into school, trying to get into a good college. I never have any cash. Is there anything I can do? I'm tired of drooling over all the cars and circuts I can't select.

[AtomAnt]

Yes there is alot you can do, practice the DEMO like crazy...cut out that Pop and bag of chips each day and in 6 weeks you'll be at your goal.

Good Luck Kiddo,
AA

[Kris-Is-Awesome]

Yes there is alot you can do, practice the DEMO like crazy...cut out that Pop and bag of chips each day and in 6 weeks you'll be at your goal.

Good Luck Kiddo,
AA


I never have money to spend- I don't ever come upon any. I'm going to enter the demo series, try to win a liscense.


I just reformatted, so I need to remake all my setups... heh.:weeping:

[mrodgers]

Can't you mow some lawns or something? Older folks will pay $10-20 to mow their lawns sometimes. Even at $10 per lawn, that's only 4 lawns. You could do that in a day.

When you're 16, that's when you have loads of money. No car payment, no house payment, no wife to support, no kids to feed, etc, etc. Wish I was 16 again. I had boatloads of money back then.

[Gabkicks]

offer yourself as a slave to your parents for a week.:thumb:
and um... do you still have 2 kidneys? you can sell 1 for quite a bit on the black market:x

[immense]

save every change you get in a box somewhere, spare change gets you far
actually i bought a ps2 and GTA vice city when it came out
on change collecting alone (seriously, spare change when i come home, change i find on the floor, change after i break a dollar, recycle bin of cans. etc)

and winter time is a great oppurtunity to shovel and make money.
there are tons of ways, and if your thinking about college, spare some time and get a job, save up money and put some away for college
i am to doing this whole college apply/gettin ready thing.
only a year older than you are.
but tehre are tons of way to save money you just need to think harder and STOP BEING LAZY!

[Kris-Is-Awesome]

I've tried the lawn thing. Noone around here 'needs it done'. I'm just... Eh. I don't know. I'll figure it out.

[danowat]

I can't understand how in this day and age, and coming from a rich, developed country like the USA, AND, obviously having a PC and an internet connection, that £24 or $42 is so hard to come by, I can obvioulsy understand people having problems from less well off countries like eastern Europe, but even then I would wonder how difficult it is, because they have again obviously been able to afford a PC, and the monthly cost of a net connection.

If you really wanted LFS that much you would find a way, heck I remember doing paper rounds for £5 a week over 20 years ago, I give my 8 year old daughter nearly £10 a week for doing household chores, I mean she could buy a license in a little over 2 weeks.

If fear that laziness comes into play a lot, as it is in no way impossible to get £24 if you try.

Dan,

[avih]

I've tried the lawn thing. Noone around here 'needs it done'. I'm just... Eh. I don't know. I'll figure it out.

don't despair man :) you WILL figure it out.

[speedfreak227]

sell some crap you own. we've all got a few things that we can sell off.

old comic books, toys, books, etc.

where there's a will, there's a way!:thumb:

speedfreak227

[Tukko]

and um... do you still have 2 kidneys? you can sell 1 for quite a bit on the black market:x
:ices_rofl

that sounds like a real bad addiction.. sell your kidney to get S2 license?! :pillepall:D

[Medic66_66]

dont you have a birthday coming up?

My nephew is your age and he ask his dad if he would rather he played a racing sim or a violent fighting game...his dad bought it for the next day for making a good point :0)

Try being cunning if all else fails ;0)

[sturje]

I can't understand how in this day and age, and coming from a rich, developed country like the USA, AND, obviously having a PC and an internet connection, that £24 or $42 is so hard to come by, I can obvioulsy understand people having problems from less well off countries like eastern Europe, but even then I would wonder how difficult it is, because they have again obviously been able to afford a PC, and the monthly cost of a net connection.

If you really wanted LFS that much you would find a way, heck I remember doing paper rounds for £5 a week over 20 years ago, I give my 8 year old daughter nearly £10 a week for doing household chores, I mean she could buy a license in a little over 2 weeks.

If fear that laziness comes into play a lot, as it is in no way impossible to get £24 if you try.

Dan,

As your from the UK, i'm sure you can understand there are still a lot of people in this country living on the edge of poverty (social security literally gives people the bare minimum to support life). Some people really CANT afford it. As such, some parents are as tight as a rats backside with money as well. Jobs are also scarse as well. He has also been trying to get a bit of money so saying he's lazy is something you really can't substantiate at all :S

I can see where you are coming from mind you :)

I used to be his position of absolutely no money either at his age as well. So i can relate to his problem.

All i can say is just keep trying to get some wonga :) Go about where you live, im sure there are some places looking for some extra help/staff. Local convinience (cant spell for my life xD) store or something?

[danowat]

As your from the UK, i'm sure you can understand there are still a lot of people in this country living on the edge of poverty (social security literally gives people the bare minimum to support life). Some people really CANT afford it. As such, some parents are as tight as a rats backside with money as well. Jobs are also scarse as well. He has also been trying to get a bit of money so saying he's lazy is something you really can't substantiate at all :S

I can see where you are coming from mind you :)

I used to be his position of absolutely no money either at his age as well. So i can relate to his problem.

All i can say is just keep trying to get some wonga :) Go about where you live, im sure there are some places looking for some extra help/staff. Local convinience (cant spell for my life xD) store or something?

Meh....I have'nt a lot of money, I am not poor, but I am in no way rich either, I come from a VERY poor background, so I know the value of money, and I know how quickly it can go to.

If I were on the breadline, the last thing on my mind would be a PC, a net connection or an driving sim, heck I could tomorrow go out and get a job in Tesco's stacking shelves for minimal wage if I were that broke.

All I am saying is, £24 isnt a lot of money, you could easily make that it a few weeks riding a paper-round.

Dan,

[DEVIL 007]

I can obvioulsy understand people having problems from less well off countries like eastern Europe, but even then I would wonder how difficult it is, because they have again obviously been able to afford a PC, and the monthly cost of a net connection.


Because these people have usually old PC,slow net connection and they are really on tight with money.They wre able to pay for food,house,net connection and there is nothing left and more important things in life.

For some people in Eastern European countries is 45dollars like 1/6 of their monthly salary!!!

[danowat]

Regardless, a slow PC, and a slow net connection must cost more than £24.

If you don't have the money, then you can't get it, no point bitching about it, I want a new car, but I can't afford it ATM.

Dan,

[sturje]

heh, very true. But concerning his pc and net connection, his parents are paying for it, and the pc and net connection benefits them as well. At anyrate, i completely agree with you on the fact he could go and get a job and get the money quite easily. But there are some people who are in backgrounds, that might have some things. But don't necessarily have the money over at the end of the month to go squandering on a racing sim :)

[DEVIL 007]

Regardless, a slow PC, and a slow net connection must cost more than £24.

If you don't have the money, then you can't get it, no point bitching about it, I want a new car, but I can't afford it ATM.

Dan,

The you boy from US just asked if there is other way to get licence in a cheap way like sold from second hand and you turn it into something else.

It cost more then 24pounds but they dont buy such a PC every year or so.They also cant stop paying 1-2 month for internet connection and then pay again.I know it must look sometimes weird how people in eastern Europe or in poor countries are able to have PC and internet connection but they for example dont buy them a new clothes or dont repair their flat or what so ever so they basicly fu**** up their life just to be connected to world.

[al heeley]

Can't believe there's nothing to do to raise £24.
Dog walking, car cleaning, odd jobs, paper delivery, MacDonalds shift, window cleaning, shelf-stacking. Funny how so many really poor people can afford PC's, satellite TV, internet, booze and cigarettes.
I'm not wishing to sound heartless, but I'm with Dano on this one, there's stuff i can't afford, I don't go moaning on about it and feeling sorry for myself. If you can't afford it, you can't have it. Live with it. If you want something badly enough, then you will find a way (without stealing hoefully) to pay for it.

[sturje]

Funny how so many really poor people can afford PC's, satellite TV, internet, booze and cigarettes.


Its called sponging off the system. Something that quite frankly annoys me, when they can go out and get a job rather than just getting the money off the government. However, there are people who are on insanely low wages who are literally living off the bare minimum legal wage. Which gets them so far, and so they have some quality of life. Also another thing that i respect about this guy is the fact he hasn't cracked lfs or anything, he is figuring out a way to pay for it.

[Scoop]

this might help u out, i also come from a not so rich country (Romania) tho my family is middle class in term of income i don't get everything i want offered so this is what i do to get money:
- Every time i'm sent shoping i keep the change (if youre parents don't send u shoping the ask them too)
- Ask them about once every few days for some pocket money to go out with friends to a movie or stuff like that and then keep it
- Tell them it's one of youre best friends bday and u need some money then go out and spend an entire day (you're parents think you're at the bday party) outsite and keep the money

This are small tricks for when u need cash fast and in 2-3 weeks u'll have the 42$ :thumb:

[XCNuse]

lol where exactly do you live (really depends) cause depending on where you live i bet i could come up with ideas

[MAGGOT]

Apply at McD's... you almost certain to get a job. High school does not take up 24 hours/day, 7 days a week. McD's understands youre in highschool, and cant work every day. If youre working too much and school is suffering, tell them. You will get less shifts and more time for school. I worked every day in grade 12, and still easily passed everything, despite my extreme laziness and unwillingness to do homework :P I'm sure you can too. I made enough in 2 days to pay for LFS S2, I'm sure you could in a week make enough. Not to mention, you'll want a summer job anyways so you have some scratch for college next year!

I realise not everyone can afford everything, but there is always a way to come up with some money if you really need it. Especially in highly developed countries like the U.S., Canada, and the countries of the U.K.

MAGGOT

[BWX232]

When I was 16 years old I had a job washing dished after school and worked about 35 hours a week- I bought my first car (a 1980 Nissan 200sx)- paid for my own insurance and car note. I had a girlfriend too- that I spent money on..

I started working when I was 14 (with "working papers" you needed to get to work that young, only at certain hours).. Before that I shoveled snow and mowed lawns.. since I was old enough to walk.

My advice? Get a part time job or actively go out looking for work like mowing lawns and stuff. There is ALWAYS and I mean ALWAYS some old lady that would pay you to clean out the gutter- rake leaves, gather sticks off the lawn, mow the lawn etc.. hell most of those old ladies just like having somebody around to talk to for the time you are there working for them...

Then you will appreciate the free time you have to play LFS, and will have enough to upgrade your PC and buy other stuff too. Then get a "real" job and buy a real car too...

[Z06Vette]

No offense intended to anyone....

Guys I am betting this young man is more like 12-14 which would tend to place him in the "allowance" category and without the ability to work. He is bright enough to know that school is the answer which is doubly enforced by his folks!

Tuff age to be! I am four times that and wouldn't want to be a "tweenie" again for nothing.

Good Luck and hang in there!
Gramps

[Goop]

I'll take your bet :) His first post says that he is 16...

Like has been said, if you want it, go and work for it. Or, if you're lucky, maybe someone who is sick of the game will see this thread and pass over their unlock/racername.

[BWX232]

Yeah that was my first thought actually- there seems to be a few people now and then that want to sell their license for one reason or another- no time to play, not their cup of tea, etc.. I bet you could take over someone's license for 25 bucks.

Hehe, I just had a funny idea-- go to RSC and go into another race sim forum like rFactor, GTL, GTR, etc.. I bet that is where you will find people that want to sell their LFS license!

[Funnybear]

God. I was a lad on a Milkround at 15/16. I'd been doing a paper round since I was 14. I had sex at 12 and I was driving at 11. Ok, the last two are blatent lies. I didn't start driving till I was 13.

But my point being is that there are ways and means. If you show keen and eager then somebody somehwhere will give you money for doind a job.

One thing my mate did when we where bashing around in teenage hell was get is parents and their friends with cars to come to a supermarket carpark where he set up a car washing and valet stall. He even got a few of us in on the act to help out. For a fee of course. Poeple saw all these cars lining up to be washed and wanted in on it. Worked like a treat until the Supermarket realised it was loosing to much from it's own carwash.


Show a bit of initiative. FFS, your sixteen. You got nothing to loose.

[XCNuse]

well it depends where i live.. see.. here where i live, i cant think of many places that you can be younger than 17 to work... so.... the times are a changin lol

[BrainBT]

High tech bums with computers and internet? :scratchch

I'm sure you will find the way to pick money.

[the_angry_angel]

well it depends where i live.. see.. here where i live, i cant think of many places that you can be younger than 17 to work... so.... the times are a changin lolSounds like you need B&Q (for those not from the UK, its a chain of DIY store who only employs spotty teenagers, and very very old people; this means that if you want something half the employees dont want to talk to you, and the other half can't hear you).

[wE1l]

Isn't it a straightforward way to ask your parents for it since your still 16?

[Sawyer]

I can't understand how in this day and age, and coming from a rich, developed country like the USA, AND, obviously having a PC and an internet connection, that £24 or $42 is so hard to come by, I can obvioulsy understand people having problems from less well off countries like eastern Europe, but even then I would wonder how difficult it is, because they have again obviously been able to afford a PC, and the monthly cost of a net connection.

If you really wanted LFS that much you would find a way, heck I remember doing paper rounds for £5 a week over 20 years ago, I give my 8 year old daughter nearly £10 a week for doing household chores, I mean she could buy a license in a little over 2 weeks.

If fear that laziness comes into play a lot, as it is in no way impossible to get £24 if you try.

Dan,

Isnt internet in the states free also? Google internet or something.

[BWX232]

Isnt internet in the states free also? Google internet or something.
Yes and hamburgers and beer rain from the sky!

[Bob Smith]

Yes and hamburgers and beer rain from the sky!
Really? What sort of beer, I might move there.

[danowat]

Isnt internet in the states free also? Google internet or something.

Yes, and the streets of London really are paved with gold :nod:

[BWX232]

Really? What sort of beer, I might move there.
It is Budweiser so most people just dump it in the river.

[Naix]

Lol BWX232 !! You are true Bud is the badest beer I'v ever drank :D => This is a smiley

[BWX232]

This is the beer that falls from the sky at MY house though..

http://www.yuengling.com/

http://www.molsoncanadian.ca/

http://www.labatt.com/

[DownShift]

man you guys sound SOooOOOooOOOooOOO STUCK UP right now, i was in the same spot he's in now form the time i was 16 till now (19) and i have a BS lil jimmy riged to hell 1.7P4 that can hardly run the game at 20FPS and i get lag at race starts like you will NEVER know will your 1000-2000$ full blown gaming PC's and i dad payed 200 F-ing $ for the thing and he pays for the net (and it's the slowest POS i've seen i dont know how they can call the shit cable!) and i would hardly get 5$ form time to time and had better things to do with the money thn buy a racing sim (like FOOD!) and i had to deal with the fact that i think i have the most tight ass dad on the planet, he owns a F-ing car lot and wont hardly give me any thing. and at that form time to time i had the cash for it but i have to NO way to get it over the net no friends with CC's my dad would never use his on the net, money order was out the door becus thats just the dumbest thing you can do. therre not a damn thing any of you can say to him, i know what type of spot he's in right now and THERE IS NOT A DAMN THING you can say to him right now just help him with what he's asking,

ya wen i finely got a job (sucks more than you will EVER know in the US right now) the 45$ wasnt shit, but i still had no way to get it over the net. so i had to fight with my dad for allmost a full year befor he let me use his CC. so really guys unless your in the same spot as him you have no god damn right to say shit or tell him 'what he needs to do'

sorry to any one on page 2, stop reading on 1. just got ticked off with how eazy ppl think it is to come by money in the US wen your his age...

[th84]

sorry to any one on page 2, stop reading on 1. just got ticked off with how eazy ppl think it is to come by money in the US wen your his age...


with a little motivation and effort, he could easily come up with 45 bucks for the game. ive been in the same spot, so dont tell me i dont know. he made a thread about it and people have given answers/advice, so i dont see what ur beef is! unless he lives in the desert with no-one around for miles, he can come up with the money, its summer time and yards need cut and cars need washings!


300!! :monkey:

[BWX232]

man you guys sound SOooOOOooOOOooOOO STUCK UP right now, i was in the same spot he's in now form the time i was 16 till now (19) and i have a BS lil jimmy riged to hell 1.7P4 that can hardly run the game at 20FPS and i get lag at race starts like you will NEVER know will your 1000-2000$ full blown gaming PC's and i dad payed 200 F-ing $ for the thing and he pays for the net (and it's the slowest POS i've seen i dont know how they can call the shit cable!) and i would hardly get 5$ form time to time and had better things to do with the money thn buy a racing sim (like FOOD!) and i had to deal with the fact that i think i have the most tight ass dad on the planet, he owns a F-ing car lot and wont hardly give me any thing. and at that form time to time i had the cash for it but i have to NO way to get it over the net no friends with CC's my dad would never use his on the net, money order was out the door becus thats just the dumbest thing you can do. therre not a damn thing any of you can say to him, i know what type of spot he's in right now and THERE IS NOT A DAMN THING you can say to him right now just help him with what he's asking,

ya wen i finely got a job (sucks more than you will EVER know in the US right now) the 45$ wasnt shit, but i still had no way to get it over the net. so i had to fight with my dad for allmost a full year befor he let me use his CC. so really guys unless your in the same spot as him you have no god damn right to say shit or tell him 'what he needs to do'

sorry to any one on page 2, stop reading on 1. just got ticked off with how eazy ppl think it is to come by money in the US wen your his age...

No one said it was easy.. it is a pain in the arse... but when you are young you have energy to burn. That part of it is easy. It sucks being broke, I know- when I was his age I didn't have a pot to p*ss in so I got off my **** and found a way to earn some money. Actually when I was 23 I worked so hard at UPS unloading tractor trailers I was injured by falling boxes and that messed up my back for life.. Now I am unemployed after 3 major back fusion surgeries and need a 4th soon.. hopefully it will be the last.


Man.. that's hard.. being a kid wanting a video game is NOT hard.
One thing I can say- do not work for UPS.. I thought 50 grand a year (eventually) would be great.. didn't count on being disabled for life.

[DownShift]

well im sorry for you, F-ing up your back for life :(

but if you had ANY way to make money ( and i mean any, im not dumb i can think of any thing you can :-) you wer not in the same spot (as i was i dont know what all his op's are but it sounds like the same spot i was in) lol

[BWX232]

I dunno- richest country in the world... 16 year old kid.. I say yard work.. millions of kids doing it all over the country.

I guess if he lives in some desert, that would suck.. but where there's a will there's a way. Another thing old farts would love to pay for- washing the car. Parent's friends, neighbors, etc..

Detailing inside of the cars- you know how many cars I have detailed for 30 bucks? Man.. tons back in the day. Bottle of windex/ vacuum cleaner/ armor all and some paper towels.. You can make a fortune with those tools. People love to give kids money who are willing to work too... they go overboard because they know the kid isn't out causing trouble and whatnot and is just being a good kid.

[Kris-Is-Awesome]

Look you guys, I'm not asking what I can do to make money. I've asked just about everyone around here to do yardwork, and car washing. My parent's o love me, but my gosh, they are mean. They never have any time for me, and don't buy me anyhting. I'll stick with the demo. I'm tired of all the sour opinions.


Sorry I even bothered to ask.

[BWX232]

No one is being negative toward you.. just trying to give you some ideas. :shrug:

Sorry I even bothered to ask.

http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?p=115474#post115474
:scratchch

[Funnybear]

I thought we where being quite posotive towards what was, originally, quite a negative post in the first place . . .

Shame. But then maybe LFS just isn't for you.

[XCNuse]

I dunno- richest country in the world...
wait.. what? dude.. the US is 13 billion $ in debt...

thanks to europe mostly during WWII (no offense in any way)

[Sawyer]

Yes and hamburgers and beer rain from the sky!

http://gigaom.com/2005/09/30/google-confirms-san-francisco-wifi-plans

Here it is now tell me where hamburgers are free. I may give it a visit soon :thumb:

[BWX232]

wait.. what? dude.. the US is 13 billion $ in debt...

thanks to europe mostly during WWII (no offense in any way)
You mean trillion? Yeah we have carried a "debt" since the beginning of time.. every year almost..
So we buy more than we sell.. never really saw how they call that a debt.. trade deficit.. So what.. Talking overall not per-capita.

no free broadband here either. But I HAVE seen beer and hamburgers fall from the sky.

[XCNuse]

i heard about a penis that flew... hit a cop too lol
twas a mexican and he was never put in jail.. they figured cutting off his dick was fair enough haha

(happened in california apparently, carlos mencia was talking about it the other weekend)

-but ya, meant trillion there.. sorry guys!

[DownShift]

ya i was about to say, US... rich??? LMFAO!!! the USD doesnt have any thing to back it up any more, we are out of gold and they just keep printing money LOL

[Stellios]

Sell some stuff? Surely you have some old gear lying around you dont want. Ebay or car boot sales are your best friend.

[BWX232]

ya i was about to say, US... rich??? LMFAO!!! the USD doesnt have any thing to back it up any more, we are out of gold and they just keep printing money LOL
If that were the case we would be paying 100 dollars for a gallon of milk.
Yeah- you're right though, the US is a poor poor country..


GDP $12.41 trillion (2005 est.)





Rank Country GDP (purchasing power parity) Date of Information


1 World $ 59,590,000,000,000 2005 est.


2 United States $ 12,410,000,000,000 2005 est.


3 European Union $ 12,180,000,000,000 2005 est.


4 China $ 8,182,000,000,000 2005 est.
5 Japan $ 3,914,000,000,000 2005 est.
6 India $ 3,699,000,000,000 2005 est.
7 Germany $ 2,454,000,000,000 2005 est.
8 United Kingdom $ 1,869,000,000,000 2005 est.
9 France $ 1,822,000,000,000 2005 est.
10 Italy $ 1,651,000,000,000 2005 est.
11 Brazil $ 1,568,000,000,000 2005 est.
12 Russia $ 1,539,000,000,000 2005 est.
13 Canada $ 1,080,000,000,000 2005 est.
14 Mexico $ 1,068,000,000,000 2005 est.
15 Spain $ 1,017,000,000,000 2005 est.
16 Korea, South $ 965,300,000,000 2005 est.
17 Indonesia $ 901,700,000,000 2005 est.
18 Australia $ 642,100,000,000 2005 est.
19 Taiwan $ 611,500,000,000 2005 est.
20 Iran $ 552,800,000,000 2005 est.
21 Turkey $ 552,700,000,000 2005 est.
22 Thailand $ 545,800,000,000 2005 est.
23 Argentina $ 542,800,000,000 2005 est.
24 South Africa $ 534,600,000,000 2005 est.
25 Netherlands $ 501,600,000,000 2005 est.
26 Poland $ 489,800,000,000 2005 est.
27 Philippines $ 451,300,000,000 2005 est.
28 Pakistan $ 384,900,000,000 2005 est.
29 Saudi Arabia $ 340,600,000,000 2005 est.
30 Egypt $ 339,200,000,000 2005 est.
31 Belgium $ 330,600,000,000 2005 est.
32 Ukraine $ 319,400,000,000 2005 est.
33 Colombia $ 303,700,000,000 2005 est.
34 Bangladesh $ 301,400,000,000 2005 est.
35 Austria $ 269,600,000,000 2005 est.
36 Sweden $ 268,300,000,000 2005 est.
37 Switzerland $ 264,100,000,000 2005 est.
38 Hong Kong $ 258,100,000,000 2005 est.
39 Vietnam $ 253,200,000,000 2005 est.
40 Malaysia $ 248,700,000,000 2005 est.
41 Greece $ 243,300,000,000 2005 est.
42 Algeria $ 233,900,000,000 2005 est.
43 Portugal $ 196,300,000,000 2005 est.
44 Norway $ 194,700,000,000 2005 est.
45 Romania $ 186,700,000,000 2005 est.
46 Czech Republic $ 185,700,000,000 2005 est.
47 Chile $ 185,100,000,000 2005 est.
48 Denmark $ 181,600,000,000 2005 est.
49 Peru $ 169,500,000,000 2005 est.
50 Venezuela $ 164,100,000,000 2005 est.
51 Hungary $ 161,000,000,000 2005 est.
52 Finland $ 159,700,000,000 2005 est.
53 Morocco $ 140,900,000,000 2005 est.
54 Israel $ 140,100,000,000 2005 est.
55 Ireland $ 136,900,000,000 2005 est.
56 Kazakhstan $ 133,200,000,000 2005 est.
57 Nigeria $ 132,900,000,000 2005 est.
58 Singapore $ 132,300,000,000 2005 est.
59 New Zealand $ 97,590,000,000 2005 est.
60 Iraq $ 94,100,000,000 2005 est.
61 Sri Lanka $ 87,150,000,000 2005 est.
62 Slovakia $ 85,560,000,000 2005 est.
63 Sudan $ 84,930,000,000 2005 est.
64 Belarus $ 79,130,000,000 2005 est.
65 Tunisia $ 76,990,000,000 2005 est.
66 Burma $ 76,360,000,000 2005 est.
67 United Arab Emirates $ 74,670,000,000 2005 est.
68 Puerto Rico $ 72,520,000,000 2005 est.
69 Bulgaria $ 67,290,000,000 2005 est.
70 Syria $ 63,310,000,000 2005 est.
71 Guatemala $ 62,970,000,000 2005 est.
72 Ethiopia $ 60,340,000,000 2005 est.
73 Dominican Republic $ 60,000,000,000 2005 est.
74 Uruguay $ 54,580,000,000 2005 est.
75 Croatia $ 53,560,000,000 2005 est.
76 Kuwait $ 53,310,000,000 2005 est.
77 Uzbekistan $ 53,010,000,000 2005 est.
78 Ecuador $ 52,770,000,000 2005 est.
79 Ghana $ 51,900,000,000 2005 est.
80 Lithuania $ 50,120,000,000 2005 est.
81 Libya $ 48,290,000,000 2005 est.
82 Congo, Democratic Republic of the $ 46,370,000,000 2005 est.
83 Uganda $ 46,060,000,000 2005 est.
84 Angola $ 45,930,000,000 2005 est.
85 Nepal $ 42,260,000,000 2005 est.
86 Slovenia $ 42,260,000,000 2005 est.
87 Costa Rica $ 40,440,000,000 2005 est.
88 Oman $ 40,220,000,000 2005 est.
89 Korea, North $ 40,000,000,000 2005 est.
90 Kenya $ 39,600,000,000 2005 est.
91 Cuba $ 37,240,000,000 2005 est.
92 Azerbaijan $ 37,030,000,000 2005 est.
93 El Salvador $ 34,150,000,000 2005 est.
94 Paraguay $ 31,790,000,000 2005 est.
95 Cameroon $ 31,770,000,000 2005 est.
96 Turkmenistan $ 30,020,000,000 2005 est.
97 Cambodia $ 29,890,000,000 2005 est.
98 Latvia $ 29,700,000,000 2005 est.
99 Luxembourg $ 29,430,000,000 2005 est.
100 Serbia and Montenegro $ 28,700,000,000 2005 est.
101 Bosnia and Herzegovina $ 28,590,000,000 2005 est.
102 Jordan $ 27,860,000,000 2005 est.
103 Tanzania $ 26,850,000,000 2005 est.
104 Cote d'Ivoire $ 26,110,000,000 2005 est.
105 Equatorial Guinea $ 25,690,000,000 2005 est.
106 Mozambique $ 25,660,000,000 2005 est.
107 Zimbabwe $ 24,990,000,000 2005 est.
108 Bolivia $ 23,730,000,000 2005 est.
109 Qatar $ 22,510,000,000 2005 est.
110 Panama $ 22,330,000,000 2005 est.
111 Estonia $ 21,920,000,000 2005 est.
112 Afghanistan $ 21,500,000,000 2004 est.
113 Guinea $ 20,780,000,000 2005 est.
114 Senegal $ 20,440,000,000 2005 est.
115 Lebanon $ 20,420,000,000 2005 est.
116 Honduras $ 20,210,000,000 2005 est.
117 Albania $ 18,070,000,000 2005 est.
118 Chad $ 17,730,000,000 2005 est.
119 Yemen $ 17,230,000,000 2005 est.
120 Cyprus $ 16,850,000,000 2005 est.
121 Burkina Faso $ 16,830,000,000 2005 est.
122 Namibia $ 16,580,000,000 2005 est.
123 Botswana $ 16,480,000,000 2005 est.
124 Mauritius $ 16,280,000,000 2005 est.
125 Madagascar $ 15,850,000,000 2005 est.
126 Armenia $ 15,700,000,000 2005 est.
127 Georgia $ 15,550,000,000 2005 est.
128 Macedonia $ 15,550,000,000 2005 est.
129 Bahrain $ 14,110,000,000 2005 est.
130 Trinidad and Tobago $ 13,920,000,000 2005 est.
131 Papua New Guinea $ 13,350,000,000 2005 est.
132 Nicaragua $ 13,240,000,000 2005 est.
133 Haiti $ 12,850,000,000 2005 est.
134 Laos $ 11,920,000,000 2005 est.
135 Mali $ 11,860,000,000 2005 est.
136 Jamaica $ 11,560,000,000 2005 est.
137 Rwanda $ 11,260,000,000 2005 est.
138 Iceland $ 10,340,000,000 2005 est.
139 Zambia $ 10,230,000,000 2005 est.
140 Niger $ 10,220,000,000 2005 est.
141 Macau $ 10,000,000,000 2004 est.
142 Moldova $ 9,519,000,000 2005 est.
143 Kyrgyzstan $ 9,033,000,000 2005 est.
144 Togo $ 8,948,000,000 2005 est.
145 Tajikistan $ 8,826,000,000 2005 est.
146 Benin $ 8,669,000,000 2005 est.
147 Gabon $ 8,047,000,000 2005 est.
148 Malawi $ 7,645,000,000 2005 est.
149 Malta $ 7,568,000,000 2005 est.
150 Brunei $ 6,842,000,000 2003 est.
151 Swaziland $ 6,222,000,000 2005 est.
152 Mauritania $ 6,198,000,000 2005 est.
153 Martinique $ 6,117,000,000 2003 est.
154 Lesotho $ 6,064,000,000 2005 est.
155 Mongolia $ 6,022,000,000 2005 est.
156 Bahamas, The $ 5,696,000,000 2005 est.
157 Fiji $ 5,409,000,000 2005 est.
158 Sierra Leone $ 5,022,000,000 2005 est.
159 Barbados $ 4,841,000,000 2005 est.
160 Somalia $ 4,835,000,000 2005 est.
161 Reunion $ 4,811,000,000 2005 est.
162 French Polynesia $ 4,580,000,000 2003 est.
163 Cyprus $ 4,540,000,000 2005 est.
164 Bermuda $ 4,500,000,000 2004 est.
165 Central African Republic $ 4,479,000,000 2005 est.
166 Eritrea $ 4,471,000,000 2005 est.
167 Burundi $ 4,399,000,000 2005 est.
168 Jersey $ 3,600,000,000 2003 est.
169 Guadeloupe $ 3,513,000,000 2003 est.
170 New Caledonia $ 3,158,000,000 2003 est.
171 Cape Verde $ 2,990,000,000 2005 est.
172 Gambia, The $ 2,946,000,000 2005 est.
173 Bhutan $ 2,900,000,000 2003 est.
174 Guyana $ 2,895,000,000 2005 est.
175 Netherlands Antilles $ 2,800,000,000 2004 est.
176 Congo, Republic of the $ 2,616,000,000 2005 est.
177 Liberia $ 2,598,000,000 2005 est.
178 Guernsey $ 2,590,000,000 2003 est.
179 Guam $ 2,500,000,000 2005 est.
180 Virgin Islands $ 2,500,000,000 2002 est.
181 British Virgin Islands $ 2,498,000,000 2004 est.
182 Aruba $ 2,130,000,000 2004 est.
183 Isle of Man $ 2,113,000,000 2003 est.
184 Suriname $ 2,081,000,000 2005 est.
185 Andorra $ 1,840,000,000 2004
186 West Bank $ 1,800,000,000 2003 est.
187 Belize $ 1,778,000,000 2004 est.
188 French Guiana $ 1,551,000,000 2003 est.
189 Cayman Islands $ 1,391,000,000 2004 est.
190 Maldives $ 1,250,000,000 2002 est.
191 Guinea-Bissau $ 1,103,000,000 2005 est.
192 Greenland $ 1,100,000,000 2001 est.
193 Faroe Islands $ 1,000,000,000 2001 est.
194 Samoa $ 1,000,000,000 2002 est.
195 San Marino $ 940,000,000 2001 est.
196 Northern Mariana Islands $ 900,000,000 2000 est.
197 Monaco $ 870,000,000 2000 est.
198 Saint Lucia $ 866,000,000 2002 est.
199 Liechtenstein $ 825,000,000 1999 est.
200 Solomon Islands $ 800,000,000 2002 est.
201 Gibraltar $ 769,000,000 2000 est.
202 Gaza Strip $ 768,000,000 2003 est.
203 Antigua and Barbuda $ 750,000,000 2002 est.
204 Seychelles $ 626,000,000 2002 est.
205 Djibouti $ 619,000,000 2002 est.
206 Vanuatu $ 580,000,000 2003 est.
207 American Samoa $ 500,000,000 2000 est.
208 Mayotte $ 466,800,000 2003 est.
209 Comoros $ 441,000,000 2002 est.
210 Grenada $ 440,000,000 2002 est.
211 Dominica $ 384,000,000 2003 est.
212 East Timor $ 370,000,000 2004 est.
213 Saint Vincent and the Grenadines $ 342,000,000 2002 est.
214 Saint Kitts and Nevis $ 339,000,000 2002 est.
215 Micronesia, Federated States of $ 277,000,000 2002 est.
216 Tonga $ 244,000,000 2002 est.
217 Turks and Caicos Islands $ 216,000,000 2002 est.
218 Sao Tome and Principe $ 214,000,000 2003 est.
219 Palau $ 174,000,000 2001 est.
220 Marshall Islands $ 115,000,000 2001 est.
221 Anguilla $ 112,000,000 2002 est.
222 Cook Islands $ 105,000,000 2001 est.
223 Kiribati $ 79,000,000 2001 est.
224 Falkland Islands (Islas Malvinas) $ 75,000,000 2002 est.
225 Nauru $ 60,000,000 2005 est.
226 Wallis and Futuna $ 60,000,000 2004 est.
227 Saint Pierre and Miquelon $ 48,300,000 2003 est.
228 Montserrat $ 29,000,000 2002 est.
229 Saint Helena $ 18,000,000 1998 est.
230 Tuvalu $ 12,200,000 2000 est.
231 Niue $ 7,600,000 2000 est.
232 Tokelau $ 1,500,000 1993 est.


I guess you believe the hype.

[ErockCTS]

around by me its easy to find something to do ... but i live outside the best city in the world so there is ALOT of people and if you speak english your even better haha

everywhere i go i see now hiring part time and full time ... crap jobs but its money

ive been workin 20+ hours a week since im 14 im now workin 45+ a week ... buy what i want like my new cadi ... goin to montreal for formula 1 and greece for a nice 2 week vaca wit my friend ... where do you live exactlly? go look into say a wendy's or BK or something im sure they could use a good english speaking kid for the register

im lucky enough i play hockey and do quite well so i was able to teach clinics for 10 bucks an hour ref for 15 an hour and private lessons at 50 an hour as i got older :)

[ATHome]

go look into say a wendy's or BK or something im sure they could use a good english speaking kid for the register


I guess some things are the same all over the world :scratchch

Sorry for hi-jacking this thread.

[sam1600]

maybe you could sell crack to get the money needed to buy LFS. NO NOT REALLY, it was a joke, dont do that because THAT WOULD BE ILLEGAL! just so you know. DONT DO ILLEGAL THINGS. they are against the law.

I would like to take a moment to state for the record that I do not condone illegal activity of any kind.

you sure seem crazy about LFS, so crazy in fact that you must have gone LFS CRACKERs! I went crackers once. Its not a good scene, man. :pillepall

[Gabkicks]

what a great 1st post:thumb:

[afastest]

Sure, as George H. W. Bush once said, illegal drugs are against the law.

[sam1600]

Hey guys, thanks for the positive response and the warm welcome.

You know, I was thinking, I bet if you typed "LFS CRACKER" into google it would come up with a webpage devoted to to people just like Kris-is-awesome, people who have been sent insane by their love of LFS but their lack of money.

Ha ha ha, I am only kidding of course. But gee it would be funny to see what came up if you DID type that into a search engine!

I would like to take a moment to reiterate the fact that I do not condone or promote illegal activity of any kind. Law and order is very important to me. I feel that it is up to us all to lead by example, especially when young people such as Kris-is-awesome come to us for advice. So don't sell crack, Kris, or do anything else illegal. It was just a joke.

Good luck coming up with the funds, Kris-is-awesome. I'm sure you'll find a way.

[Kris-Is-Awesome]

Hey guys, thanks for the positive response and the warm welcome.

You know, I was thinking, I bet if you typed "LFS CRACKER" into google it would come up with a webpage devoted to to people just like Kris-is-awesome, people who have been sent insane by their love of LFS but their lack of money.

Ha ha ha, I am only kidding of course. But gee it would be funny to see what came up if you DID type that into a search engine!

I would like to take a moment to reiterate the fact that I do not condone or promote illegal activity of any kind. Law and order is very important to me. I feel that it is up to us all to lead by example, especially when young people such as Kris-is-awesome come to us for advice. So don't sell crack, Kris, or do anything else illegal. It was just a joke.

Good luck coming up with the funds, Kris-is-awesome. I'm sure you'll find a way.


You might find a link to a white guy doing something stupid. Maybe. I'm not going to crack the game. I'm not going to get into anyhting illegal...

[VALE 46]

Why dont you sell something ... on ebay :scratch:

[BWX232]

I think he just wants a pity party.. LOL:D

[rabidmaddog]

Rolling Stones: "You can't always get what you want".

I want a Ferrari F430, but I can't afford one. There are certainly more important things in life. If the demo is the best you can do, play the demo.

I just thought of a new T-shirt slogan. "I'm broke and need money for race car simulator"

[rickylix]

its funny..Kris, at this point..you could have started a Paypal account and had everyone donate a dollar..65 posts so far! actually you have to be 18, i think..anyway, dont worry yourself about getting both licenses. Why not just get the s1 license, play on that for a while and save a buck or two a week until you have enough to get the s2 licence. Maybe ask your parents for an advance on your allowance or your next b-day. Someone made a valid point that at least you are trying to get a great sim racing game, instead of some violent-hot coffee modded adventure game. You could use that approach..but in the end, go small and just get the s1 license until you can save up for s2. it breaks down just the same..:thumb:

[Kris-Is-Awesome]

its funny..Kris, at this point..you could have started a Paypal account and had everyone donate a dollar..65 posts so far! actually you have to be 18, i think..anyway, dont worry yourself about getting both licenses. Why not just get the s1 license, play on that for a while and save a buck or two a week until you have enough to get the s2 licence. Maybe ask your parents for an advance on your allowance or your next b-day. Someone made a valid point that at least you are trying to get a great sim racing game, instead of some violent-hot coffee modded adventure game. You could use that approach..but in the end, go small and just get the s1 license until you can save up for s2. it breaks down just the same..:thumb:





<- S2 Buddy.

[tinyk]

<- S2 Buddy.

Congrats and welcome to LFS S2 :)

~*~*~*~tinyk~*~*~~*

[wheel4hummer]

I wish I could get an S2 liscense. It sucks when you have the money, but your parents say "I don't trust paypal", and, when today I asked if I could send a money order, my mom says "You still want that game? We said no." :pillepall I will find a way though. (WIthout cracking, I will get an actual liscense somehow)

[Kris-Is-Awesome]

I wish I could get an S2 liscense. It sucks when you have the money, but your parents say "I don't trust paypal", and, when today I asked if I could send a money order, my mom says "You still want that game? We said no." :pillepall I will find a way though. (WIthout cracking, I will get an actual liscense somehow)


Oh it's great... :)

[Gabkicks]

welcome to lfs:tilt:

plz plz plz get good with the f08 before you try the bf1. it will shorten the time it takes to get fast with the BF1

[BWX232]

Oh it's great... :)
So are you going to share with us how you managed to scrape up the dough? Maybe some other kids out there could use the advice huh?

[Gabkicks]

did u read the other posts? i think someone here bought it for him... well i didnt read the other posts thuroughly... thats what i assumed.

[BWX232]

Maybe but he never said.. After all that you would think he would tell us.. Won't break my heart if he doesn't.. :scratchch

[Kris-Is-Awesome]

I found some stuff and sold it. Gona miss it though. Owell, went for a good cause!!! :)

[bobvanvliet]

Dang, you're the first guy (I've heard of) that actually sold some of his shit to play LFS. Way to go Kris!

I hope it's gonna be worth it (ow w8, I KNOW it's gonna be worth it ;)) and I hope to see you around the track sometime. :thumb:

[Gunn]

I wish I could get an S2 liscense. It sucks when you have the money, but your parents say "I don't trust paypal", and, when today I asked if I could send a money order, my mom says "You still want that game? We said no." :pillepall I will find a way though. (WIthout cracking, I will get an actual liscense somehow)
Dear Mrs 4Hummer,
Your son, Wheel, has been a member of our online racing community for almost a year and in that time I think it is only fair to say that he has grown a little bit taller. He has iterated to our well-dressed and impeccably-behaved community on more than one occasion that he does not have parental consent to purchase a Live For Speed S2 Alpha Online Racing License via the popular Paypal system. In casual passing one may get the feeling that he perhaps feels less fullfilled than he otherwise might if circumstances were more in his favour in regards to becoming a fully fledged member of our community, many of whom are very attractive physically which is always nice to know as I'm sure you will agree.

While there is always a risk that young Wheel's grades will suffer from the time he spends tearing around virtual racetracks online, he will meet a diverse range of people from across the globe, many of whom have jobs or at least know somebody who actually does.
Some kids play games of death and hatred, some kids lie under bridges with a needle in their arm and even worse, some kids play arcade racing games or ones with a small letter at the front of their name! Oh the injustice! If only young - insert name here - could be released from the shackles of mediocrity and be given the freedom to express his rapidly evolving soul at blistering speeds and against all odds in the ultimate challenge of man and virtual machine all in the relative safety and comfort of his own home.....the parents that could do that for their beloved offspring would be honoured for eternity in the hallowed halls of virtual boyracerdom.

However, there is a profitable angle here whereby you as a parent exploit said offspring by demanding the completion of several dozen mundane chores over an indefinite period of time or until such a time as the offspring's interest has waned, whereby you claim ultimate victory and get to extract even more rediculous demands from your hapless child's hide for many glorious years to come! I went roller skating for years, and in exchange my parents got a fully landscaped yard and endless refills of very bad coffee! I still walk with a limp to this day, Mother is a bit odd and we haven't seen Dad since St Patricks's day, but in fairness I think all parties are happy with the outcome!

So please Mrs 4Hummer, for the peace and tranquility of the award-winning Live For Speed Community please find a way to help a young racer realise his dream.........

*fades to future scene*

"Wheel! No Live For Speed until you've finished your chores!.....and massaged my feet, washed the dishes, fed the dog, awww the baby's thrown up again... get that won't you Wheel....?"

Love from Gunn

p.s. The holiday's going great! The underwater mountainbiking was particularly unique but ended rather quickly. Hi to Bob and Meredith, hope to see you all again soon at the big pie and beer festival!

[skiingman]

ya wen i finely got a job (sucks more than you will EVER know in the US right now)

...

sorry to any one on page 2, stop reading on 1. just got ticked off with how eazy ppl think it is to come by money in the US wen your his age...

You know, it is much easier to find a job when you know how to read and write. And don't whine like a little bitch. There are hundreds of people on this forum posting in a second or third language with far more eloquence than you do in your first.

When I was 12, a US dollar bought considerably more than it does today. I bought myself a $2000 PC after earning money providing on-site tech support for various people who were referred to me. A strong lesson in the power of word of mouth advertising. I saved that money in about a year.

And then we have Americans who do speak English that somehow think our current debt problem is largely due to World War II, which really couldn't be further from the truth. In fact, we made out like bandits on that deal. Not only financially, but technologically as well. I know that most Americans find history intolerably boring, but perhaps you should google "Redstone Rocket" and learn something interesting.

[rickylix]

<- S2 Buddy.


Alright Kris!! now we can change this thread to "This Rules!"

[Kris-Is-Awesome]

Alright Kris!! now we can change this thread to "This Rules!"

It does! :)

[Ball Bearing Turbo]

LOL @ Gunn

You feeling alright Gunn?

:razz:

[Becky Rose]

Around here there are no job oppertunities, and even so, I am too into school, trying to get into a good college. I never have any cash.
One year before I left school the big world wide 80's depression hit. I got a job on top of school, in fact I got more than one, and I barely ever saw a penny of my wages on helping out my folks, and then one of the firms went bust with a backlog of wages.

I work in a male dominated industry, I have not been given jobs because "you wont fit in because you dont like football" (not that they asked). Yet I still have a job.

I see refugee's who barely speak English holding down a job.

There's no such thing as no opportunities.

If you want it. Earn it.

That's capitalism baby...

[mrbogeyman]

nice post Gunn, although if he shows his mother that you might actually dissuade her!

[Rob76]

This is the beer that falls from the sky at MY house though..

http://www.yuengling.com/

A little off the thread topic, but hey, it's beer!

I used to be an uneducated snob towards US beers until I actually started travelling to the US.

Yuengling is great (It was my favourite beer when I lived in NJ), but I never see it here in MA :(

Up here Sam Adams is everywhere, but there's many more (little known) micro breweries in the North East US that I prefer. My current favourite is Wachusett http://www.wachusettbrew.com

Cheers!

[BWX232]

:D :D

Drink up! :thumb:

[AtomAnt]

Way to go Kris :thumb: , Congrats.

[skiingman]

Up here Sam Adams is everywhere, but there's many more (little known) micro breweries in the North East US that I prefer. My current favourite is Wachusett http://www.wachusettbrew.com

Cheers!

I'll have to try that. Not a "micro" brew per se, but do you like any of Magic Hat's beers? They are out of Burlington VT. In a similar vein I enjoy some of the brews from Unibroue up in Quebec, available pretty widely through the US now at good beer stores.

There are a bunch of decent micros in my area of Upstate NY. Good stuff for sure.

[skiingman]

Of course it didn't match up to the Theakston's pint's 5.7% ABV, but if it did Americans wouldn't be able to drink it so what would be the point? :shrug:

;)

Hah. I rarely have more than a pint in a sitting, so high alcohol content beers don't bother me too much.

One of my favorites if I'm restless before dinner is here:

http://www.unibroue.com/products/3pistoles.cfm

[rickylix]

Nice post Skiingman!! I love La Fin Du Monde and Maudite!! good for special occasions..however, after going to Germany so many times, I'll always be a Warsteiner fan:nod:

[BWX232]

http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/8346/yuengling8ui.jpg

:thumb: