Masters of Endurance 2010-11 Season Round 1: 12h of Kyoto GP Long LIVE Broadcast

[dekojester]

Masters of Endurance returns for another season, and with some interesting changes.

The annual season start again is the 12 Hours of Kyoto GP Long, and we'll be bringing it to you live on multiBC Stream III from flag to flag. Join presenter Jonathan Palmer and Commentators Chris Wilkinson, Chris Ford and others starting from 11:45 UTC TODAY, Saturday 4 December 2010. Green flag is scheduled to drop at 12:00 UTC.

Stream Downloads:
First bit (intro and first few minutes) (http://91.121.145.38:8000/StreamIII/StreamIII_035.wmv)
The majority of it (http://91.121.145.38:8000/StreamIII/StreamIII_036.wmv)

It'll be going up on my blip.tv page soon.

You can check out the following to help prepare you for the race:

Starting Grid (http://i51.tinypic.com/246l1k5.png)
Qualifying Results (http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=71769)
MoE Website (http://www.mastersofendurance.eu/)

Here's how you can watch the race:

HQ Silverlight webpage player (approx 1.3 Mbps) (http://www.multibc.com/SIM/?page_id=12)
SQ Silverlight webpage player (approx 650 Kbps) (http://www.multibc.com/SIM/?page_id=411)
Link for External Player (Right click, Copy Link) (mms://91.121.163.6:7000/StreamIII)

Other ways to follow the action live:

MoE Tracker (http://tracker.mastersofendurance.eu/)
LFS Remote (http://www.lfsworld.net/remote/?host=Masters%20of%20Endurance)
spdoRacing.com Online Hosts Tracker (http://www.spdoracing.com/satellite/host/149686/live)
MoE on LFS Forum (http://www.lfsforum.net/forumdisplay.php?f=328)
Official MoE IRC (irc://irc.gamesurge.net/moe)

We hope you can tune in for the start of another season of Live for Speeds most prestigious championship!

[cargame.nl]

Not 12 hours long but sure will tune in :thumb:

Nice bitrates also :smileypul

[Timo1992]

Of course I will watch :)

[Kova.]

I will watch too :)

I like the fact too see some game racing like as a real racing ;D

[Framaris]

We'll be watching closely!:thumb:

As always I have made a special page with everything on it for the team, but you're all welcome to use it if you like: http://www.ready2rollteam.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=826&p=6781#p6781
Note that before the stream is available your browser could hang (few secs) and a message saying that stream can't be found will be displayed, it should be back to normal once the broadcast will be started...

Good luck to all participant!

[prOmo_LTU]

You can follow the action from E-Team's pov at http://twitter.com/EnduTeam

[dekojester]

Stream is on by the way :razz:

[nathan246]

Watching :)

[Timo1992]

Very nice introduction of the starting grid atm on stream :)

[J@tko]

Good to see MoE have followed the BBC's lead with impartiality in their staff :D

EDIT: Also how does this GT0 class work? Am I correct in saying from the tracker that everyone is running the "tweak" but GT1 and GT2 are restricted?

EDIT 2: Ask that on stream if you want :P

[dekojester]

Incidentally, if you have any questions you'd like answered on stream, feel free to ask here or in IRC and I'll feed it to the commentators. :thumbsup:

[Kova.]

i haven't a question, but a suggest.

Is it possible to set the streaming pictures ?
Because when lfs tv director show ranking, we didn't see the 4th, 8th, 12th......

[dekojester]

i haven't a question, but a suggest.

Is it possible to set the streaming pictures ?
Because when lfs tv director show ranking, we didn't see the 4th, 8th, 12th......

I'll check it here

EDIT: It's fine on the Standard quality stream, but the advert bar for the HQ stream mucks it up, I'll try to size the bottom for the HQ

EDIT2: Sorted :P

[Dalek0220]

Tuned in a few minutes; certainly looks to be an exciting race!

[Kova.]

I'll check it here

EDIT: It's fine on the Standard quality stream, but the advert bar for the HQ stream mucks it up, I'll try to size the bottom for the HQ

EDIT2: Sorted :P

It's better now ;D

Thanks :thumb:

[xtraction]

Not happy about my double stint :shrug:

[Timo1992]

Quite nice race so far

[Becky Rose]

Too few cars for 3 classes on such a long circuit. :/

[zippytheone]

Go to break

Conquest Racing GT0 have a spin. Nice :p

[DeadWolfBones]

Too few cars for 3 classes on such a long circuit. :/

Tell Scawen. ;)

[dekojester]

Go to break

Conquest Racing GT0 have a spin. Nice :p

You'll have that. :razz:

[Becky Rose]

Tell Scawen. ;)
LFS is capable of running more cars than are entered, my point is that there's no need to have 3 classes in the same event, and with a reduced entry field it's created a scenario where a 12 hour race is being competed by half a dozen cars per class, that's too few because it makes getting a podium result comparatively meeningless, it's a disservice to the teams who put the effort in to compete.

Endurance events are meant to be difficult, after watching a few hours my feeling was that the race needed more same class cars, and less than half the entries getting trophies... It wasn't 'difficult' enough.

On a secondary note the commentators didn't seem very interested in the race at the time and barely talked about it for the whole time I was tuned in, but i'm going to tune in again shortly and see if they're more enthused by the ontrack action :)

[J@tko]

On a secondary note the commentators didn't seem very interested in the race at the time and barely talked about it for the whole time I was tuned in, but i'm going to tune in again shortly and see if they're more enthused by the ontrack action :)
Good luck with that :tilt:

[Hahmo]

Good luck with that :tilt:

Every now and then we are very closely following the action :)

[dekojester]

On a secondary note the commentators didn't seem very interested in the race at the time and barely talked about it for the whole time I was tuned in, but i'm going to tune in again shortly and see if they're more enthused by the ontrack action :)

Part of that was our leads (the ones who actually are supposed to pay attention) were busy either driving or prepping to drive, and I was busy helping sort out protests.

But yeah, even if it were 30 cars in the same class, it's always going to be hard to bang on for 12 hours even if the racing is immense.

But yeah, I shouted once or twice down to the commentators to keep talking about the race.

[Wilko868]

The thing is, with a race like this in the middle hours, everyone's in mad places completely out of sync etc. it's hard to sort of...keep having interesting things to say. If it was iTCC or even GTAL or IGTC, the races are short enough to keep cars battling around each other, but with such a long race, things get so spread out you either try and look totally excited at 21 second gaps or sit and say nothing. We'd all rather still be entertaining.

[amp88]

The off-topicness was almost entirely down to me. Apologies for anyone who didn't enjoy.

[Wilko868]

The off-topicness was almost entirely down to me. Apologies for anyone who didn't enjoy.
It's because you're Scottish.

[Becky Rose]

Oh please don't missunderstand my intention to raise that, off topic is fine in a 12 hour race. Just after 60+ minutes or however long I was watching at around the 4 hour mark there was no mention of the race at all, it was a better ballance when I tuned in later. Going to log in again and see how it's going now :)

[pipa]

Kinda agree with Becky.

For a bystander it would be more interesting if there would less classes with fewer cars competing against each other.

I tuned in shortly after the start and watched a few interesting bits nevertheless :thumb:.

[Senninha25]

hmm..what's with Conquest Racing GT0?

[DevilDare]

That was a brilliant last hour.

Good stuff in GT1. :nod:

Grats to winners.

[zippytheone]

Watched last hour and a half and it was a great race overall. Good commentary and good streaming :thumb:

Scipy did admittedly make me lol after the race with his obscenities. Thats just me though :shy:

Wd to podium in each class and extra Kudos to inex GT0, spdo GT1 and Inferno GT2 :tilt:

[Kova.]

I've seen 10h of the race, it's was very interessting to see this race ;)

Congratz to all winners and congratz for commentator and peoples who make the stream :thumb:

[Dennis93]

Winnars!

[Timo1992]

Great job Dennis and also great job to the winners of GT1 and GT2 ;)

[Tomhah]

All issues thats possible! FFB problem, LFS minimizing, body-work damage interpeting under braking and in some turns because of the LFS minimizing (going 240(?) km/h straight into a wall), tire popp because of the body-damage. Not to mention the problems my team-mates got. My first two stints were just unluckyness. My two last stints where quite good.

GRATS ineX GT0!! :D And Spdo GT1. Bad Luck Scipey ;/

[DevilDare]

Concerning the discussion still going on the stream.

We already have single class endurance racing; IGTC.

[Timo1992]

and GTAL ;)

[dekojester]

Download links added to OP. If you don't want to dl all 6 GB plus, just wait a few days and it'll be on my blip.tv page.

[PMD9409]

Concerning the discussion still going on the stream.

We already have single class endurance racing; IGTC.

and GTAL ;)

GTAL: GT2
IGTC: GT1
MoE: GT0?

:D

MoE is known to be multi-class, there's more of a chance of Wilko winning in the GT0 class before that changes.

[Fuse5]

anything is possible when u mix up names and twat people up the arse :thumb:

[Tomhah]

Stupid commentators SR fans:D "TOMMY ØSTGAARD TURNED IN ON ISAAC PRICE! WHAT A ROOKIE MISTAKE BY TOMMY ØSTGAARD!"

Im not the one who got the warning, right? :P

BTW: I didnt hear your first question, as I was fixing something. HAHAHA, so I answered on something else xD WIN!

[MousemanLV]

A car drives off from the track,accidently.
Commentator *Shouting*: HE'S OFF, HE'S OFF ! :D

[J@tko]

Stupid commentators SR fans:D "TOMMY ØSTGAARD TURNED IN ON ISAAC PRICE! WHAT A ROOKIE MISTAKE BY TOMMY ØSTGAARD!"


Good to see MoE have followed the BBC's lead with impartiality in their staff :D

:tilt:

TBH I think even at Le Mans Wilko goes off on a tangent every once in a while, so the discussion about his mother [I assume this was talked about at some point] wasn't too bad :D

[Hahmo]

I'm pretty sure nobody mentioned Janice even once :P
I was in the commentary box for ~8 hours and at least during that time it wasn't.. Great fun it was :P

[GreyBull [CHA]]

LFS is capable of running more cars than are entered, my point is that there's no need to have 3 classes in the same event, and with a reduced entry field it's created a scenario where a 12 hour race is being competed by half a dozen cars per class, that's too few because it makes getting a podium result comparatively meeningless, it's a disservice to the teams who put the effort in to compete.

Endurance events are meant to be difficult, after watching a few hours my feeling was that the race needed more same class cars, and less than half the entries getting trophies... It wasn't 'difficult' enough.


To sum up the situation briefly:

After the end of the 2009-2010 season on a bad note(poor turn-up rate in the last few rounds), admins want to break the boredom of three seasons on GT1+GT2 without any real important patch in between.
After months of arguments, speculations and work on a (now abandonned) stillborn project, admins/beta-testers come up with a brand new class, the GT0.
GT2 is too popular to be scraped(as you see, it's the most crowded class atm).
Admins decide that having 15 GT0s and 15 GT2s on track would be too much problematic, therefore GT1 cannot be scraped
One of the only "viable"(though some will obviously argue with that, go to the MoE section if you have some time to loose in reading neverending arguments on this topic) solution is to have 3 classes, GT0, GT1, GT2.
I think most of the people involved in the series share your opinion Becky, this was the argument that came the most often during the pre-season arguments. That said, don't forget that if we have only half-dozen of cars in GT0 and GT1 at the end of round 1, it's also because of the lack of interrest in the faster classes, the series were supposed to run with 10 cars in each class or similar. Also, even in real life it is not rare to see 6-10 cars classes, even less is events with a lot of different car classes like the 24H of Nurburgring.

Honestly I don't exactly know which opinion I should personnally have on this GT0 class. I haven't tested the FZ0 and the XR0 yet, and I'm probably not skilled nor experienced enough to push them at their limit anyway. As a GT2 driver and squad manager though, I think it brings an excellent multi-class athmosphere. The GT1/GT2 speed difference wasn't great enough to give a big influence to lapping. With the GT0s you have to be more careful with the people around you from other classes. And the GT0/GT2 speed difference isn't as much scary as it might look from the outside, as all cars on track have a very similar corner speed, so the GT0s catch the GT1/2s only in the straights. It's not like in events mixing very different car classes like GT1/NGT or similar, where you always have the fear of having a faster car catching you in a fast section with blind corners.

Of course the main risk is to have teams running in GT0s getting bored in competing in 6 cars grids, we will see how it goes later in the season.

And anyway, MoE is one of the only international LFS endurance league simulating the multiclass athmosphere. Multiclass systems are part of endurance racing, so I think it should stay like that, should we have 2 or 3 classes on track.

On topic, I've watched only like the first 40 minutes, but the stream was excellent from what I've seen. I'll try to download it and watch some other parts later today.

[Timo1992]

;1524038']

After the end of the 2009-2010 season on a bad note(poor turn-up rate in the last few rounds), admins want to break the boredom of three seasons on GT1+GT2 without any real important patch in between.


And IMO this has worked out, we've seen an exciting first race yesterday and I'm sure some more will follow. ;)
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The stream was brilliant, especially the first 60 minutes. :razz:

[Myffe]

AND F***ING AGAIN I MISSED IT.



Srsly make these threads 1 day or sumthing before the event

[turbofreak]

AND F***ING AGAIN I MISSED IT.



Srsly make these threads 1 day or sumthing before the event

2. 6 Hours of Westhill International: January 8th, 14:00 UTC
3. 24 Hours of Aston GP: February 12th, 16:00 UTC
4. 6 Hours of South City Long: March 12th, 14:00 UTC
5. 6 Hours of Fern Bay Black: April 9th, 14:00 UTC
6. 6 Hours of Kyoto National: May 7th, 14:00 UTC

put that in your calendar

[baSh0r]

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_j1kPhD6mV9k/Srf4cZSd56I/AAAAAAAAARI/vDPl7-oIusk/s400/ba%20dum%20tss.jpg

[Seb66]

2. 6 Hours of Westhill International: January 8th, 14:00 UTC
3. 24 Hours of Aston GP: February 12th, 16:00 UTC
4. 6 Hours of South City Long: March 12th, 14:00 UTC
5. 6 Hours of Fern Bay Black: April 9th, 14:00 UTC
6. 6 Hours of Kyoto National: May 7th, 14:00 UTC

put that in your calendar

I think you should too, the amount of times you've pulled out of races:D

[CSF]

Stupid commentators SR fans:D "TOMMY ØSTGAARD TURNED IN ON ISAAC PRICE! WHAT A ROOKIE MISTAKE BY TOMMY ØSTGAARD!"

Im not the one who got the warning, right? :P



I stand by what I said. While with "benefit" of a replay I saw Isaac understeering in the draft, you could have left more room. :razz: Twas a racing incident at the end of the day, though I can only judge with what I see at the time. You come try it sometimes Tommy if you want to moan. :)



I think you should too, the amount of times you've pulled out of races:D
:biggrinfl

[Tomhah]

I've been commentating myself, though on a very low level xD And I would like to try, just put me in there xD

But yeah. The thing was with the FFB, was my first real turn with that setting, so I didnt get the car to go where I wanted. But still, there WAS room for Isaac, but he understeered into me :P I didnt even know it was him or what happend anyway, before someone told me xD I thought maybe someone spun someone who hit my rear-end xD

[CSF]

What I saw with my shitty PC was you turning and I didn't really see Isaac understeering at the time. :D As soon as I watched it on a replay I was like... meh... I'd usually say something on the stream, but then thats when the gt2 all started crashing together and I forgot. So Tommy. I'd like to say sorry for getting it wrong at the time. :couple: :D

[Tomhah]

awwww:lovies3d:
apologize accepted:biggrinfl xD

[GianniC]

Do make the commentating in the stream a bit more objective next time please. For the rest it was fun to watch and a great opener! :more: