game freezes [Archive] - Live for Speed

Zsolt Nagy

21st April 2006, 20:56

I have a more complex problem with LFS.

I have a Gigabyte Radeon 9600 video card and whenever I drive the BMW, the game freezes after a few laps or corners. The screen displays one frame for more than 10 seconds, and an engine noise lasting for a tenth of a second repeats itself meanwhile. After that, the game returns to normal, but my resolution is set to 800x600 in the background, and window focus is given to the "Send error report to ATI technologies" popup window.

I experienced similar problems very rarely with the FOX car too.

I have tried to turn my firewall off and have also altered several graphical settings of LFS, but nothing has worked so far.

Do you have any experience on this phenomenon?

indo420

21st April 2006, 22:41

Zsolt Nagy

22nd April 2006, 07:23

I have run dxdiag, but haven't found anything special after reading the log file (http://cs.bme.hu/~zsnagy/dx/dxdiag.zip).

According to ati.com, the latest radeon driver is Catalyst 6.4. I have installed it yesterday evening, but I still can't complete a lap with the FOX and the Sauber cars, since the screen freezes and the video card resets itself.

I have also experimented with ATI Catalyst and in-game LFS settings, but nothing has worked so far.

I will download an earlier version of Catalyst (5.11) and see what happens.

Zsolt Nagy

22nd April 2006, 18:03

For ATI users: I have downloaded and installed Catalyst version 5.11 and the game seems to work fine so far. I have raced for around 1 hour, which is a huge improvement compared to crashing in every lap. If the game freezes with this driver too, I will send a message here.

It is a good compromise to use version 5.11 drivers until the problem is fixed.

Zsolt Nagy

22nd April 2006, 18:24

The game froze again with the 5.11 Catalyst drivers too, while the RADEON 9600 PRO was not even warm.

I will drive with a GeForce2 MX 400 until the bug is fixed.

Palee

1st May 2006, 17:14

Hello Zsolt,

i have the exact same problem.

It just came up since patch S. (and every verison since)

I had the same problem two years ago, (with a different computer) and the problem was that I used 2048x2048 skins. After i started using 1024x1024 skins, the problem had disappeared.

Now i have a 256Mb X700Pro card with to go along with AMD64 3500 to go along with 1G Ram, even using 512x512 skin, 512x512 helmet, and it keeps stucking for 10 secs in every 10 to 15 laps even in hotlapping mode!

So... Something happened in the new release.

Barroso

1st May 2006, 18:26

i used to have a very similar problem, ill post a link for better understanding, i have a nvidia card however that looks alot like the problem i had, what fixed it was disabling the checkbox in this picture (http://www.mercuryracingteam.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10008/gt.JPG) pardon the portuguese but it should be fairly easy to find that checkbox, give it a try :)

Jokke10

1st May 2006, 18:28

same problems lap or couples then freezing same has happened S,T and U versions. XP2800,Hercules Prophet 9600XT Catalyst 6.4. I have tried everything graph settings lowest possible and lower resolution no help

SKurjz

1st May 2006, 18:50

Try opening the case while playing and pointing a desk fan (or similar) at the GPU while you are racing.

Palee

2nd May 2006, 08:15

It would be a great help, if you know people who experience similar problems. We can gather more information this way.

Clearly, the problem lies within the used skins, textures. (and nothing to do with graphical performance)

Yesterday i went with a 256x256 helmet, half-texture on. Had a one and half hour race without any glitch. Though it is great to go without problems this way, it is still an issue have to be dealt with. Using medium sized skins shouldn't be a problem even for a 64 Mb graphic card.

silent_wind

4th May 2006, 22:48

the same problem here too.. and no it's not my OC'ing..i tried without it and the freeze is still there... i've never had an problem before the patches , nor with my all other games that are heavy CPU/GBU demanding too like flight sims , other racing sims and all kinda heavy games...so i DO know it's not my PC..oh , yeah , and it's not overheating :)

Gabkicks

5th May 2006, 01:32

yeah i've been getting freezing and crashing as well...:x i'm not sure what the cause is... i'm gonna start troubleshooting tomorrow

silent_wind

5th May 2006, 14:45

i think it has somethin to do with online collisions and close racing (whne you have a car insight) especially when the server is hosting a lotta cars , actually i've noticed an overall laggy online after the new patches, plus some crackling.. i had that 10 sec freeze right after 2 cars made contact.. i beleive it's some sort of crapy or lost patckets that causes these freezes...

anyway, im getting desperate now for i been messing up with this shit for quite a while now, my online expericed just got ****ed up and i have no more pleasure to drive, all because of those damn freezes !

KMSpeed

5th May 2006, 18:12

Gabkicks

8th May 2006, 00:05

i have no clue whats the cause :( i underclocked my pc and set my gpu fan to 100% and it still happens...

Its really frustrating to have the game just freeze up and crash like this :shrug:

silent_wind

8th May 2006, 02:08

i have no clue whats the cause :( i underclocked my pc and set my gpu fan to 100% and it still happens...

Its really frustrating to have the game just freeze up and crash like this :shrug:
i told man , it aint the OC'ing.. i have a long experience with OC'ing and im 100% sure it's not it..plus i ran a tons of test before trying to make my PC responsible for anythin, but no, it turned out it aint my PC the cause.. plus all my other games run like a charm, even games that are heavier than LFS concerning resources...

DEVIL 007

8th May 2006, 09:35

i have no clue whats the cause :( i underclocked my pc and set my gpu fan to 100% and it still happens...

Its really frustrating to have the game just freeze up and crash like this :shrug:

Hi,
It might be also your memory on card got damage somehow and may overheating as well.
Do you have chance to borrow somewhere 2nd graphic card and test it if its definately not the graphic card?
I would do that!

Octane

8th May 2006, 12:25

I experience the exact same behaviour you described since version S (and the later versions).
Yesterday was the worst day so far, LFS crashed every few mins, and my PC is not overclocked in any way,
i never had a single crash or freeze of LFS with any of the older versions.
I was racing in South City with FXO (i don´t know if its related, i got freezes on other track/car combos as well, but not so often).

When it happens the screen freezes (showing the same screen all the time) and the sound loops the last 0.5 sec again and again. A few seconds after that the gfx-card is giving no VGA-Signal anymore (Monitor switching to standby-mode) and the PC totally freezes (only reset-button helps)
. On a few occasions my gfx-card seem to recover after a few seconds (maybe due to the ATI-GPU-recovery function in the driver), but mostly the PC totally hangs then.

MY PC:

Athlon XP 3200+ (Barton i think)
ATI Radeon 9500 pro with Catalyst 6.4 drivers (without CCC)
1024 MB MDT DDR400 Memory CL2,5

Gabkicks

8th May 2006, 16:05

Hi,
It might be also your memory on card got damage somehow and may overheating as well.
Do you have chance to borrow somewhere 2nd graphic card and test it if its definately not the graphic card?
I would do that!

my card is fine... every other game runs perfectly:shrug: its only lfs that does this to me :(

karlik

8th May 2006, 17:59

I have this same problem with freezing lfs.

-SE1Z-

9th May 2006, 05:14

Just a thought...

I had this same error for the first time ever in LFS yesterday and after reading this thread, I *think* I know why it happened to me. (it may help others also)

Running a P4 3.2
Gigabyte mobo

I went into the bios last night, then hit <ctrl>+F1 to get to hidden menu's.

I changed the 'speed' thing (sorry, at work, cant remember exactly what it was) - basically I could choose on/off - with it on there were 5 settings including... slow, fast, race, flat out.. etc...

I turned it 'on' and chose 'race' .

an hour in, LFS crashed.

I will be changing it back to default when I get home.

Hope this helps someone.

Zsolt Nagy

9th May 2006, 05:59

Hi all,

I drove two championship events without AGP hardware acceleration and there was no problem with game crashes at all. After installing patch U, I returned to the hardware-accelerated configuration and LFS seems to be running well so far. If a problem occurs, I will report it again.

Zsolt

ACE111

13th May 2006, 11:33

Hi i´ve got the same problem, but there a little diffrence: My lfs freezes after changing the car a third time ALWAYS. But i doesn´t freeze if i don´t change the car... If i change it two times there is also no freeze. But after the third time *FREEZE*. I can live with it but its annoying... And if it freezed the first time it runs again, but after a short time it freezes again. And then, after 2nd freeze there is not much time to the 3rd freeze... And so on...
it came with the new versions....

Gabkicks

13th May 2006, 11:40

i took a can of condensed air to the inside of my pc and and blew all the dust from inbetween the heatsinks and fans of my processor and graphics card. idle temps dropped from 45c to 38c on my gpu. i havent noticed any freezing anymore. i also used drivercleaner to delete all ati stuff on my pc and installed omegadrivers. then i defragmented and ran adaware and spybot.

i havent seen any freezing or crashing sense then...:shrug:

ACE111

13th May 2006, 12:28

i think that won´t work for me because my fans are all clean also the gpu and cpu temps are ok my 6600gt has 50°C during gaming and the cpu has got 49°C well thats not perfect but its not too hot.... derfrag will not help me because I have formatted two weeks ago and there are no viruses or troyans at my computer i checked that yesterday...

DEVIL 007

13th May 2006, 16:03

my card is fine... every other game runs perfectly:shrug: its only lfs that does this to me :(

idle temps dropped from 45c to 38c on my gpu

Thats useless saying its not my card or PC before you trying as more possibilities as possible.I noticed you clean your dust,cleaned drivers and it seems it now work fine so probably a issue on your side and not LFS as you were trying to show.

Just some programs are more sensitive to your system garbage.I noticed a lot fo guys just install drivers over drivers and install so many demos of games,programs om their PC.Sure your system can then act weird.

I just dont understand how people can make so grabage to their system:scratchch :shrug: :pillepall

Also sometimes not latest drivers mean the best one.Sometimes a combination of chipset,graphic,sound drivers run pretty bad and showing problems just in some special cases.

Its nothing personal.I am just glad your LFS now works again fine.

zeeaq

25th May 2006, 06:32

SIMILAR PROBLEM HERE....

Am at my frnds place now...just installed LFS for him....his sytem is an AMD Athlon 2.6 with 256 MB Ram and a VIA Km 400 display adapter....the game runs just fine if he drives on the track...the problem is that it freezes if he runs off the track....say on the grass or sand.Any ideas???

MadCatX

25th May 2006, 14:24

That Km 400 means onboard graphics, doesnt it? Maybe that IGP doesnt like some kind of particle effects generated when you are sliding on the grass/sand.. just an idea:shrug:... Try to get a newer driver for it and make sure you have VIA 4in1 drivers(or how is this stuff named now). I had one VIA-powered mobo and without that drivers it behave just..... inpredictable.....:)

zeeaq

25th May 2006, 16:42

Oh yeah sorry...that problem was sorted...we got new updates for the drivers online.:)

Octane

25th May 2006, 20:25

I still get freezes every now and then, but its very random. sometimes i can play for hours and sometimes LFS freezes after a few minutes. I played around with minimum sleep and i think i am getting less freezes with 10 ms (instead of 5 being used before).

I also tried using old Catalyst drivers (5.11) but this makes no difference. Today i tried switching off Antialiasing and Anisotropic Filtering, LFS ran okay almost all the day, but in the evening i had one freeze again.

I heard most people having these freezes have an nforce chipset on their motherboard, maybe this is a hint ? I am using a nforce 2 chipset (Asus A7N8X).

I am going to try another Gfx-card at the weekend, maybe it helps...

Palee

25th May 2006, 21:51

It is a texture-handling problem. Use small (512x512) skins instead of 1024.

But again: It is a new problem since Patch R. Older versions have no problem with 1024x1024 skins.

The freezing happens because the CPU-usage goes up to 100% and it chokes. It is actually not a freezing, just a 5-10 seconds hanging.

Stellios

25th May 2006, 22:36

I get this too. Disabling vsync and updating my GFX drivers has helped, but not fully solved it.

crxPimp

26th May 2006, 23:06

Glad I found this thread; I've been bitching in "LFS Locks" a few pages into forum. My copy is doing the same exact thing and coincidently I've tried all the solutions that have worked for others. Running an nvidia ti4200, amd 1800+. It's nothing stupid like defrag/trojans/crappy OS. It's a new machine w/ a formatted drive. I even went as far as putting lfs ver U on my other puter and it locks as well; and that machine used to run demo/s1 for over a year w/ no problems. So we can all agree perhaps it's version R/S on, problem is what is it and why. I'll try the 512x512 skins but to be honest I'll be pissed if that fixes it. Shouldn't have to cut back gfx on a seemingly simple game; especially since I built a new machine just for lfs. Got tired of reclamping wheel so just made a permanent lfs 'pod' in the corner of my office : )

Pimp

ShannonN

27th May 2006, 04:35

. Running an nvidia ti4200, amd 1800+. It's nothing stupid like defrag/trojans/crappy OS. It's a new machine w/ a formatted drive.

Shouldn't have to cut back gfx on a seemingly simple game; especially since I built a new machine just for lfs. Got tired of reclamping wheel so just made a permanent lfs 'pod' in the corner of my office : )

Pimp
An AMD 1800 is a new computer? My one here is about 5 yrs old now and runs patch Q with 1024 skins fine and it only has a GEForce 2 MX video (32 Mb) and 256 mb system memory, XP Pro! :) Mind you I don't try to overdrive the graphics on it, sensible settings and it works fine

Its used as a wordprocessor and a spare system for friends to LAN lfs to my 64 Bit Athlon 3200 which also can play LFS without fault with 1024 skins, mind you with a 6600GT 256Mb Video card it's to be expected.

However I really think its more likely a background task cutting in and using all the processor time rather than a graphics thing, could it be a motherboard temperature watcher thing, My 1800 came with one that autostarted and caused a few bugs, Look at all the running process' maybe there's just something there you may have missed
Hope this helps
ShannonN

crxPimp

27th May 2006, 05:04

It's a new computer for lfs, meaning I just built it and all it does is lfs. No unecessary services/procs are running for performance sake alone.

However...

Earlier tonight I turned off 'enable write combining' within nvidia's properties panel and the game ran perfectly. About 5 hours (3 racing, 2 spectating) 1600x1200 32bit @70ish fps 120degF no problem. Dunno how this would affect ATI users with this issue but so far so good over here. We'll see what happens.

Thanks everyone
Pimp

DEVIL 007

27th May 2006, 10:40

I think the main problem is how are now developed NVIDIA and ATI drivers.

They are all optimized for DirectX9 so the optimizations for DX8 are threw away to give better peformance in DX9 titles.I even didnt mention coming DX10 optimization coming along 2006/2007.

I highly doubt that NVIDIA or ATI will make something because of the issues.LFS even being a great product it is sharing really minimal part of the market so its not important for these companies to focus on LFS and the other issue is what I already mentioned.The DX8 optimizations in drivers are threw away so the support for DX8 is still there but not the performance and issue with DX8 products are included anymore so this can cause LFS problems as well.I think it might get even worse.

I think there is place for Scawen to think soon about migration to DX9 and even best would be to include DX10 support later.

This was a bit offtopic so back to the problems.If I want to be reallz sure that LFS is not the problem I would always try to 1st replace the drivers either with new one or the previous one(but never overinstall them.They must be uninstalled and then later installed the "new" one).
Second thing if this doesnt resolve your problems.Make the clean installation of the OS(best its running OS on seperate partion - hope nobody do nowdays different way).
And last option to not blame always LFS to try if there is such a possibility different graphic card from someone.I already mentioned it many times...your GPU core might showing not overheating but what about your graphic memory!!

And last important thing.LFS is very sensitive to anything overclocked so even your machine might run fine with everything it can crash or freeze with LFS.

Gabkicks

27th May 2006, 11:11

lfs looks horrible to me without AA and af... :shrug:

DEVIL 007

27th May 2006, 11:33

lfs looks horrible to me without AA and af... :shrug:
Like every other game.LFS just use usualy less polygon for curves so the jadggies effect is more visible.

crxPimp

27th May 2006, 17:05

Every game inevitably has it's issues w/ drivers/configs. It was just killing me that lfs would lock so randomly. So much easier to fix a game that locks during load or main menu. I ran lfs in sp mode this morning before I ran out for errands. Set the bots to race around for a few hours. This definetly would've locked my machine(s) in the past. Low and behold all is still well.
tweakguides.com (http://www.tweakguides.com/NVFORCE_5.html) explains write combining as

Enable Write Combining: Write Combining is a technique which merges multiple operations into a single read or write, increasing graphics performance. However just like Fast Writes (See BIOS section above), having it enabled may cause problems and exacerbate instabilities on various system configurations. For most people, I recommend ticking 'Enable Write Combining' as it increases performance and should not cause any problems. However if you continually experience crashes, particularly the 'infinite loop' error, you can try unticking this setting to see if things improve.

Dunno why it cooperated w/ previous lfs versions but for now seems to have done the trick.

mmm happy day : ) ...now I just gotta fix my racing
Pimp

NovaDude

1st June 2006, 10:57

Hello fokes,

To throw some spices into the fire, it's not just ATI's.
I'm running an Nvidia 6800GS 256MB (AGP) and I get the same freezes randomly.

My video card is running at about 70C temprature when I am gaming, where 120C is the threshold.
I'd say this is quite normal, so it's not a heating problem.

Since the Nvidia card is a very stable card, my computer does not crash after the game freezes. I believe it's doing some memory reboot and I continue playing.
How ever, on multiplayer, during those 10 seconds that the game freezes, I experience a time out and get disconnected from the server.

As you can figure out this is really annoying when you're 1st on a race!

Once the game continue's, I sometimes experience graphical bugs, such as weird lines going trough my screen, or my car looking crippled.

How ever most of the time, there is nothing weird to be seen or experienced.

I wish someone would come with a solution to this :)

RedFOX

drinklime

15th June 2006, 16:25

Hey I have been getting these freezes too. This is what I know. When I am online it happens lots of times when I hit a kerb or another car. That made me think it had something to do with sound. My PC will freeze and the sound will loop for about 20 seconds. The weird part is then LFS comes back and says lost connection to host and everything is OK again.

But here is the weird part, when i am OFFLINE racing by myself, I get the same lockup, EXCEPT i am never returned to LFS. Instead, i get a windows blue screen and it is complaining about nv4disp.sys

Now that nv4 problem bluescreen I have gotten before when I play Oblivion. That is the weird part, because its almost the exact same lockup, except that when I'm online in LFS, i dont get a bluescreen, my PC comes back to life when LFS quits the race.

So here are my theories. Maybe when a sound file gets played, it is conflicting with the video. So maybe disabling write-combining eliminates that, and turning down AA or AF makes it less likely? Also, maybe the devs could answer this, but what happens when i get that Connection to host lost message? I ask because that is the only thing saving me from a blue screen, maybe quitting the race kills some action LFS is trying to do that escapes out of the problem before windows gives up?

Here are my specs:
Athlon X2 3800 (dual core)
asus A8N-E (geforce 4 ultra chipset)
EVGA Geforce 7800 (AA and AF turned on in windows)
Creative X-Fi Xtrememusic
2 gig dual channel ram

I think everyone who has this problem should also post their sound card

the_angry_angel

15th June 2006, 17:33

Have you turned off the onboard soundcard in the BIOS? Quite often nV nf4 chipsets dont like playing when the onboard is on, and theres an external one as well.

I've also had similar issues with boards when I've not manually turned off the onboard VGA; all nf4 chipsets.

mocky

18th June 2006, 16:23

Hey I have been getting these freezes too. This is what I know. When I am online it happens lots of times when I hit a kerb or another car. That made me think it had something to do with sound. My PC will freeze and the sound will loop for about 20 seconds. The weird part is then LFS comes back and says lost connection to host and everything is OK again.

But here is the weird part, when i am OFFLINE racing by myself, I get the same lockup, EXCEPT i am never returned to LFS. Instead, i get a windows blue screen and it is complaining about nv4disp.sys

Now that nv4 problem bluescreen I have gotten before when I play Oblivion. That is the weird part, because its almost the exact same lockup, except that when I'm online in LFS, i dont get a bluescreen, my PC comes back to life when LFS quits the race.

So here are my theories. Maybe when a sound file gets played, it is conflicting with the video. So maybe disabling write-combining eliminates that, and turning down AA or AF makes it less likely? Also, maybe the devs could answer this, but what happens when i get that Connection to host lost message? I ask because that is the only thing saving me from a blue screen, maybe quitting the race kills some action LFS is trying to do that escapes out of the problem before windows gives up?

I think everyone who has this problem should also post their sound card

Im (Mocky) again!!

YES!! I have the same problem only in OBLIVION and LFS..

Amd XP2600+
Nvidia GeForce 6600GT
1Gb Ram
MB asus A7V8X
Scard SBlaster Live

suspicious, no? (only in oblivion and LFS)
note: in Oblivion only was occurred 2 times.

sorry for my english again

Mizil

18th June 2006, 19:07

Expierencing the same problems :shrug: ...

KV7 2200+
Hercules 9500Pro 128 Mb
512 mb memoryHope the devs find something to solve the problem soon ! :scratchch

Racer Y

18th June 2006, 19:32

Hi. I'm getting similar problems, but different ones as well... It makes me wonder that the problem might be with the sites you are getting patches from instead of all the complicated stuff about cards, drivers, cpu temps or whatever. see everyone's rigs seem to be very different, yet have similar problems. I d/loaded LFS on this BRAND NEW COMPUTER... the U. patch from scratch. THe first time I did I got a real crappy start up, freezes and crashes.
LOL I did finally get to try that beemer :)
I dumped it and re downloaded all over again. this 2nd file i got ran smooth... real smooth, cept for one small detail. THERE WAS NO UNLOCK OPTION ANYWHERE!!!!!. so now I'm going for a third try...
so if you're getting all these funky issues, the original zip file might be the culprit.

drinklime

18th June 2006, 20:04

i turned off write combining and turned down AA and AF but i am still getting lockups :(

Racer Y

18th June 2006, 20:10

WEll now on this install i don't have the unlock option either.... where is it?
shouldn't it be at the startup screen???

Mizil

18th June 2006, 20:12

Oh my god .. sigh.. i just managed to make HL² freeze in a mod...

drinklime

20th June 2006, 14:34

devs please help

Stellios

20th June 2006, 15:27

Ive updated my sound drivers and reinstalled the game from fresh and its solved it, or it seems to have. Updating GFX drivers helped a little bit but it still frozee occasionally, updating the sound drivers seems to have stopped it.

Albieg

20th June 2006, 15:55

Stellios, just to know, is your board based on NForce chipset? The Angry Angel pointed out there are problems with sound with this chipset, sometimes leading to Blue Screens of Death. For example a friend of mine (who doesn't use LFS) had frequent BSODs with San Andreas. Lowering directx sound acceleration to zero before playing was a good workaround. I'll update his drivers soon to see if the problem persists with new drivers.
As a side note, since freezing problems seems to be quite common and sometimes have quite strange solutions (for example the ACPI computer driver thingy), it would be useful having a single (maybe sticky) thread with updated information.

Edit: use dxdiag to modify directx sound acceleration.

rowie

20th June 2006, 16:52

This thread helped sort out my freezing issues with LFS.:thumb:

http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=8831

it may or may not help... but worth a try?:shrug:

Rowie

Stellios

20th June 2006, 21:20

No its not Nforce, im using the Asrock Dual SATA2 board, which is on the ULi1695 chipset i believe.

drinklime

19th June 2007, 21:35

i found out what was causing all my lockups. my videocard was defective. i did an RMA with evga and the replacement was even worse! then I got a third one from them and it crashed once, then i reinstalled video drivers again and all is well.

finally!

mike20002

25th June 2007, 21:59

Is everyone with problems sitting on a AMD processor?
Im having crashing freezes too after X version, I have tested the X2 version too but same problem there.
Now Im testing this:
- AMD Dual-Core Optimizer (http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/TechnicalResources/0,,30_182_871_13118,00.html) = didnt help!

- upgrade to latest nForce graphic driver for my 8800GTS card. = didnt help
- turned off write combining = didnt help
- upgrade nForce 4 drivers = didnt help

ORBman

26th June 2007, 07:43

I've had similar experience with freezing/choking (Dell Latitude D600 with Radeon 9000) and I have tracked the issue to the temperature. I've bought two big cooling boxes (these are _very_ cheap) that I have in the freezer through the day and when I want to play LFS in the evening, I just put one under the laptop and the second on the top of it (two places that gets hot when playing LFS) and the problem is solved ;-) ... but I plan to get a better HW for LFS, anyway, because it really needs it

mike20002

26th June 2007, 20:02

This is making me so dissapointed, im not able to run LFS anymore.
It crashes after 5-10min, then It can be working for hours.
Before it killed my PC to reboot, but now after all updates I have done it "only" freezes and I have to switch (alt+tab) and wait to windows.
There is no error messages, this problem came after upgrade to version X.
I had no crashes with version W and before that.

That's all for me...

Didnt I read somewhere to disable internal Audio card if you have a external one...
Hmm... I have that, let's try...

LFS R.I.P or maybe not... :(

EDIT:
I think the sound card issue solved the problem, no crashes after I turned the internal card of in bios.

Nick A

22nd July 2007, 20:30

As Mike2002 says, I think that this problem has only ever been reported with AMD processors. If anyone has had this with an Intel processor I'd be very interested to hear.

Kniebeejs

22nd July 2007, 20:57

I have the crapy Intel celeron 320, and I have the freeze's too.
I have noticed, that it alweys hangs when I am using heli view. I reinstalled DX, and it helped for a while, but now its freezing again.:thumbsdow

Edit: And it all started when i updated to patch X. :(

Nick A

22nd July 2007, 21:01

OK, thanks. That's interesting to know because you're the first Intel user who I've found who has it.

Have you tried to fix it much? There is a list of things I've tried at the top of thsi thread:

http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=26541

most of which are things that I've found that other people have tried with some success.

Strange about the heli view. Maybe that uses more GFX power, in which cause it's probably worth checking for GFX CPU overheating.

Kniebeejs

22nd July 2007, 21:15

It wasn't overheating. The hightest temp playing lfs was about 67, but sometimes it's below 60*.BTW my GPU is 6800XT. Enable write combing on GFX card - where can I find this???:shrug:

I think it's my CPu that make's those freezes. Anyway, I will try to reinstall Win tomorrow. Maybe it helps :)

Nick A

23rd July 2007, 09:47

It's under Control panel>Display>Settings>Advanced>Troubleshoot

Let us know how you get on. I wouldn't be surprised if your problem is fixable because most people with this problem have AMD, but I could be wrong :shrug:.

Kniebeejs

23rd July 2007, 10:20

Nick A

23rd July 2007, 10:26

Kniebeejs

23rd July 2007, 10:38

Wow, that was quick! If you have an external soundcard, make sure you disable the onboard one (if you have one). Best to do it in the BIOS. Also, make sure you have the latest version of DirectX installed, plus latest GFX drivers. They are probably the most likely to solve the problem.

DOn't have external saund card. I tried a lot of driver versions. I tried NGO, newest nvidia, and the drivers, that came with GPU (6X.XX maybe). I'll try the thing with DX :)