Live for Speed S2 Version S (NOW U)

[Scawen]

Hello racers!

We are pleased to announce the release of S2 ALPHA Version S :)

As you know, it includes :

- the BMW Sauber racing car
- tyre and aero physics improvements
- many other updates.

There's not much more to say... download it... have fun! :)

Download :

http://www.liveforspeed.net/?page=downloads

List of changes :

Included the BMW Sauber racing car
Improved the slipstream simulation
Improvements in tyre and car physics
Graphics option : Use compressed skins
Included Spanish training translations
Replay speed (F2) minimum is now 0.125
Traction control added to FZ50 road car
Updated translator names on credits page
Longer start delay if more players in race
Gear shift levers no longer hold the clutch
Pit speed limiter now visible on remote cars
Better dashboard on Formula XR and Formula V8
French and Russian keys guides (in docs folder)
InSim NLP and MCI packets now support 2000 laps
Small changes to the mass and power of some cars
15:4 screen ratio now detected as a 3-screen mode

FIX : Wing angle bug causing physics exploit
FIX : Command line /hours=x is now implemented
FIX : Bug in haze effect, now usable in tv cameras
FIX : Bug in demo /ban function with coloured names
FIX : After driver change - timing info not visible
FIX : Qualifying could end up to 6 seconds too early
FIX : Pasting long line of text would make LFS crash
FIX : LFSW lap times bounded to 1 hour to avoid wrap
FIX : Could sometimes teleport after a driver change
FIX : Changing tyre type, warmed to wrong temperature
FIX : Could get stuck in pits when changing fuel load
FIX : Mudguards and brakes vanish when changing plate

EDIT : Some fixes in version T :

- FIX : LFS crash (often during a multi car pile up)
- FIX : LFS crash when starting up with Greek or Norwegian
- FIX : Aston Grand Touring / North showing up as AS6 / AS7
- FIX : Commands /track=as6 and /track=as7 did not work

EDIT 2 : More fixes and improvements in version U :

Race penalty statistics now sent to LFS World
Changed format of /track host startup command
Removed /config and /reversed startup commands
Some small frame rate optimisations in car draw
Hosts can now display a 200 character welcome message
Added a new command /tracks to specify allowed tracks
OutGauge system for external dashboards (see InSim.txt)
FOX / FO8 / BF1 all have their own dashboard colour slider
Translations and docs folder updated with new translations
Throttle blip on downshift now allowed again with manual clutch
Suspension stronger before it bends but then bends more quickly

FIX : LFS could crash sometimes when leaving a multiplayer game
FIX : Croatian and Serbian should always be correctly selected
FIX : Could view other racers ARB and Brake Balance online
FIX : LFS crash when starting up with Greek or Norwegian
FIX : Aston Grand Touring / North showed up as AS6 / AS7
FIX : Aston lessons had gone wrong with changed objects
FIX : Downloading Skin message was partially off screen
FIX : Could set wind in hotlapping using /wind command
FIX : Commands /track=as6 and /track=as7 did not work
FIX : Number entry in tyre setup menu did not work
FIX : XF GTI acceleration, PRO level was too easy
FIX : Colour alternation on list of games screen
FIX : LFS could crash when drawing a damaged car
FIX : Connecting player with different weather
FIX : Text command /leave had stopped working

NOTE : Versions T and U are fully compatible with Version S

[Mogar]

TC on FZ50 ??????? :shrug:


IMO, it's far from necessary.... unless the new tyre physics made the cars much harder to control

[danowat]

Many Thanks for this patch, I am sure it will bring plenty more fun LFS hours :)

Dan,

[[RCG]Boosted]

yea!!!! there it is! :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
thanks scavier!

[Antsa]

:sheep: :heartbeat

[nitro man]

Thanks Dev's

[spoonsports]

cheers scavier
great effort...much appreciated

[FRED]

Thanks Devs :thumb:

[QuickSilver]

thanks devs! keep doing what your doing and ill keep buying more lisenses lol

[Haikoe]

Thank you devs!!!!!!
:elefant::elefant::elefant::elefant::elefant: :elefant:

[NotAnIllusion]

Finally, after a long, arduous wait it's here.

Thank You !!

[RacingSimFan]

The Day Hath Come!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:):):)

[maniax]

nice one guys.. thanks for the hard work...

i'll see if i can get furie and neostar to join me on a public later :)

[srdsprinter]

Wooot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[BigDave2967]

Thank you very much Dev, your work won't go unnoticed :D

[tinvek]

thanks in advance for all the work guys

downloading now :)

[aoun]

DOWNLOADINGG!!!!! ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR


45% :( Downloaded.. Telsta is sooo slow for me!! lol 92.5 KB/S!!

Thanks alot devs..was bout to kill myself when i thought would take another hour to release! :).

[izard]

Whoohooow! :heyjoeani

What can i say.. Dev's, a fantastic job, well done!
I'm very curious in how exactly you guys reeled that BMW Sauber thingy in.. :scratchch:thumb:

[junsnake]

Im happy that I still alive. Love all~~~~~~~~~~~``

[Bramski]

OH-EM-GEE :nod:

[the_angry_angel]

I'm so happy its here :D Nice work Scawen, Eric and Victor :D. Just one problem. I'm in wales and I cant even SSH to my box to start downloading the patch :'(

p.s. NICE WORK :up: Keep on rockin' guys :D

[Gretzkyyzerman]

Thanks a lot Scavier...

What a game! And still improving! I have the feeling we will never need another racing sim (!) again...

:thumb: :thumb: :thumb:

[Qurpiz]

I thank you

[DodgeRacer]

TC on FZ50 ??????? :shrug:


IMO, it's far from necessary.... unless the new tyre physics made the cars much harder to control Find me a ferarri or porsche of the caliber the FZ has, that doesnt have TC as an option...yeaahhh good luck with that.



Thanks devs, great work :)

[XsX!]

thanks devs :)

[beep]

Great and thanks :D

[Eddster]

Thankyou Devs, we couldn't be more appreciative.

[SID135]

THANKS GUYS!!! WOOOOO

From all the guys at www.arse.org.au, we thank you!

[jegorchangai]

Thanks Alot :d

[TRiN]

:thumb::D:trampolin:nana::drink::bannana_g:headban g::huepfenic:woohoo:

[bLaCk VaMpIrE]

i want a torrent.. the servers are fully loaded.

[joen]

Thank you! :):headbang::nana::yipee::clapclap::eclipsee_

[_rod_]

Thanks a lot Devs!!!!!!!!!!!

[nutty boy]

I can't get it on. My winzip only allows me to have 500 icons, this has more so i therefore cannot download it. Help!!

[nitro man]

use winrar

[robps]

Good stuff, can't wait to get home from work.

[nutty boy]

I don't have winrar. Can I download a free trial from anywhere

[Ball Bearing Turbo]

ARGH, easy for you guys, my work day is JUST starting! 8 hrs till home time :(

Nonetheless:

THANKS! CAN'T WAIT TO TRY IT OUT TONIGHT!

[Kuba_m]

http://www.rarsoft.com/
use google :pillepall :nod:

[saroman]

Thanks! :spin:

[nutty boy]

ok i'm about to download winrar then i'll try and get into the website again

[cjb1118]

Thanks.

[farcar]

I'm glad I have 2 pairs of undies on at the moment!
Thanks Devs! :thumb:

p.s. Noone is allowed to bitch untill they have played version S. :rolleyes:

[VorTeX3k]

http://lfs.gjl-network.net

there you can find my mirror.. have fun downloading the patch!

[xFMFxShortY]

THX Guys !! :thumb:

[BrandonAGr]

Don't forget the new track configs!

[DeeS]

Thanks!!!! a lot ! I love it!

[colcob]

Anybody played it yet? I've downloaded and read through all the files in the zip, which is about as much as I can do here at work.

Although, come to think of it, I'm feeling a bit poorly, maybe I should go home and have a rest :)

[Ball Bearing Turbo]

Yeah, Colcob I don't feel to hot myself...... Hmm..

[VALE 46]

:( I have to unlock the game again for some reason cos its calling me a demo racer. But its my bros game and i dont know the password so i have to wait till he gets home .... so whats it like to drive?

[Live For Kill]

Saw a lot of improvments, but i cant understand, why dont we recive any points?

[Stealthy04]

i cant play it.. says im missing skins for bl1 and xfg :pillepall

[Gunn]

Thanks again devs. :D

[CarstenH]

I havent good any unlocks any more....
I only used 1 this month but I havent got any unlocks more....
So i cant play now...

OK... problem is solved....

[Pakalulu]

:smileypul:smileypul:smileypul:smileypul:smileypul :smileypul :thumb:

[VALE 46]

"Gear shift levers no longer hold the clutch" Is this completly removed :( .. I liked this feature, it was nice being able to shift to 1st, rev it up, and let go of the stick

[neo force KP61]

i cant play it.. says im missing skins for bl1 and xfg :pillepall

same here, and when i copied over my old LFS it says im a demo racer and need to purchase S2!!!

can anyone help??:(

[Madman_CZ]

Thank you very much devs, for all the hardwork and time you have put into the update. I also must thank you for my nervous brakedown waiting for this patch :D


thanks again..


mad

[Simon Savage]

HERE WE GO!
:x

[ajp71]

Just about to try it...

[K4Ri]

I really loved waiting for the patch....:)
And now Im goin' to love the patch..

Thank You!

[ArosaMike]

Impressive :D 198mph down the back straight of Blackwood and effortless grip!

[Gunn]

This is awesome. This patch drives a huge wedge between LFS and its wannabe rivals. Great work devs!

[neo force KP61]

can someone help me i cant get it to work :(

do you copy over all your own lfs files when extracting?? please help

[vade]

Thank you! Greatly appreciated.

I drove a few laps and I really enjoy the new feel of it. Very solid and controllable. BF1 is surprisingly easy and fun to drive for a BF1 newbie. Lovely speed on the straights. :-)

neo force KP61: Yeah, extract the archive into your LFS folder and allow it to overwrite everything.

[Live For Kill]

why was the pointing removed?

[nesrulz]

Thank U Dev's! :woohoo::bounce8::woohoo:

[Leroyvl]

Big thanks to the devs! LFS is the most fun and accessible sim I tried. Keep it up! :thumb:

[nutty boy]

i don't know how to do winrar, it extracted to data but how do you checkout (as in winzip)

[XRRoy]

finally:thumb:


nothing more to say:D

[W1LLSD4D]

Obviously, it's now time to leave work... :)

[gatorman]

I added an unofficial USA mirror

http://www.live4speed.net/LFS_S2_ALPHA_PATCH_S.zip

Installed and tested. Don't forget to unlock after patching!

[joeynuggetz]

Sucks, I'm at work. I may have to leave a little early today!!! Thanks devs. Someone post some screens of the F1 on track.

[ajp71]

Drove a quick lap at AS North in the FZ50.

- New HUDs, white with like a digital number feel aout them, much more stylish IMO

- BMW + Michelin ads

- Lovely layout - brilliant selection of corners.

- The TC doesn't ruin the FZ50 - using the race S set (included) it didn't feel too limiting but did tame the beast.

- Felt a lot easier to drive, especially out the harpin.

[neo force KP61]

great, i extracted all files over old ones it says im a demo racer now :(

[LRB_Aly]

Thanks guys, great work :thumb:

[vade]

You have to unlock the game again after patching. It's normal.

[nutty boy]

Can anyone tell me why it's not working.
I extracted files over old ones and it still says patch P

[SamH]

Just stepped out of the BF1 on Westhill to say..

OMFG!!! It is EVERYTHING I'd hoped for, an a LOT more!! I'm in awe!!

You guys are THE BEST!! This thing is GORGEOUS!!!

[neo force KP61]

where do i find my game password???

[troy]

thank you for all the effort you put in here to the devs

made a quick test with LX6, RAC and BF1
and its great to drive the improvement is heavy
luv it and i guess i wont go out the next days :thumb:

[SamH]

Can anyone tell me why it's not working.
I extracted files over old ones and it still says patch P

Extract again, but this time tell it to REPLACE existing files.

If that doesn't work, re-download. Maybe you picked up a rogue, un-updated mirror?

[[FuLLocK]JoK3R]

?????

[Live For Kill]

why was the pointing removed?

will i get ever an answer for this question?

[Live For Kill]

JoK3R']?????

LOL!!!

[nutty boy]

Thanks sam, i'm downloading again and I extract over data folder right. Do I have to do anything after extracting or will it just be there.

[ajp71]

First FB1 drive (and crash :D).

Very very fast. You can just floor it and really hear the traction control kick in.

Amazing round corners just hang on.

[J.P (GB)]

Error message saying it cant open XRT Default skin. I tried copying it from the orignal version but it made no difference?

[Goop]

I'm in awe, this is real groundbraking stuff. Incredible job devs! :wow:

[Goling]

thank you so much!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ajp71]

JoK3R']?????
WTF?

He's had enough? :D

[Taavi(EST)]

er, guys, is this normal??, i got to play for like 30 min, and then:

[letdown427]

er, guys, is this normal??, i got to play for like 30 min, and then:

I've seen that sort of thing on my PC with the old patch, was to do with mypoor former overclocked gfx card and/or RAM.

Check GFX card isn't overheating?

[joeynuggetz]

er, guys, is this normal??, i got to play for like 30 min, and then:

Yeah, that would look normal for the Starship Enterprise, but not LFS :-)

[Goop]

That happened to me once after playing about with the resolution settings in NetKar, reboot fixed it :shrug:

[Live For Kill]

031 racers online:))))

[Festy]

i cant play it.. says im missing skins for bl1 and xfg :pillepall

Ditto. Where did you download it from? I grabbed the patch from one of the UK servers. What about the others getting this same error. Where are you downloading from? I'm trying another server now.

[letdown427]

031 racers online:))))

047

oops, 057 :)

[JogDive]

Thank you very much !

I was still waiting.........

[letdown427]

what the hell?
After i installed the patch i got the same startup screen as you get when you install it from scratch... further i get to the screen to pic a car, there i automaticaly get the hatchback. and when i then press Next... the whole thing breaks down, and i get a messagebox that tells me that LFS.exe has a problem!

any one else got this problem?

The first bits were normal, up until the breaking down bit....

[Gunn]

This is great. I feel much more confident putting the power down early and much more confident cornering at high speed. Racing just got better. :)

Bye bye PBs, this is faster.

Demo guys, now would be a good time to get licensed. :nod:

[Gentlefoot]

This is doing my nut in! Another 3/4 an hour before I can leave for home and a night of smashing PBs!!

Someone earlier said they were getting an error 'cannot load skin" or something. Read the readme.txt - you need to copy over the existing files. Back them up first if you like.

[Stregone]

Ugh, I can't unlock. It keeps saying game password does not match. But i've gone and set a new gamepassword so I KNOW i'm entering the right one, but it still denies me. What the heck? :(

[J.P (GB)]

Error message saying it cant open XRT Default skin. I tried copying it from the orignal version but it made no difference?

:shrug: Anyone able to help me?

[Live For Kill]

This is great. I feel much more confident putting the power down early and much more confident cornering at high speed. Racing just got better. :)

Bye bye PBs, this is faster.

Demo guys, now would be a good time to get licensed. :nod:

i would buy it if i can...

[Gentlefoot]

JP - read the readme.txt - you need to copy over the old files

[Jakg]

downloading at 60 Kbs, got i hate my isp! only just got in!

[nutty boy]

Festy I have that skin problem. I tried with both UK servers and it still won't work.

[Festy]

This is doing my nut in! Another 3/4 an hour before I can leave for home and a night of smashing PBs!!

Someone earlier said they were getting an error 'cannot load skin" or something. Read the readme.txt - you need to copy over the existing files. Back them up first if you like.

Not sure about the others with the same problem, but I followed the readme.txt and extracted the zipped file to the main folder. Will try again with a new download from another server.
Thanks for the thought, though.

[J.P (GB)]

Thankjs i understand noiw......misunderstood the readme....thanks!

[Gentlefoot]

I only got 48kb/s and I'm on DSL. Probably the mirrors are busy.

[colcob]

I do wonder whether its about time the team dumped this old 'extract the zip yourself' method of installing and just made a simple installer that put the files in the right place.
I know that us old hands are fine with it but its a bit off-putting to new users, of which there will be many more in the months ahead I'm sure.

[Festy]

Festy I have that skin problem. I tried with both UK servers and it still won't work.

I'm going to try from a non-UK server, Nutty. Hopefully it maybe something as simple as that. *fingers crossed* :shrug:
I'll let you know the outcome.

[nutty boy]

I agree with you. I'd like that method now cos i'm having problems.

[Dudley]

This is as good a place as anywhere.

Just posting to congratulate the devs on getting this kind of licence. I can't imagine it was easy and if it was it's down to the work you've done being recognised.

Good show!

[Kajojek(PL)]

Thank You.

[Gentlefoot]

Festy - make sure you replace existing files. I got the same error because inititally I wanted to install patch S to a new directory to save damaging patch Q. But I got this message so I read the readme.txt. It states you must replace the existng files in the LFS working directory.

Hope that's a bit clearer.

[Stealthy04]

Ditto. Where did you download it from? I grabbed the patch from one of the UK servers. What about the others getting this same error. Where are you downloading from? I'm trying another server now.

try another mirror, i got it working now. the original one was from netherlands, i tried uk and its ok now.

[steve30x]

TC on FZ50 ??????? :shrug:


IMO, it's far from necessary.... unless the new tyre physics made the cars much harder to control

I am delighted to have TC in this SIM.

[spacedeck]

u lot have done a very nice job, loveing the new bmw and handling is alot easier:):)

keep up the gd work

[letdown427]

I do wonder whether its about time the team dumped this old 'extract the zip yourself' method of installing and just made a simple installer that put the files in the right place.
I know that us old hands are fine with it but its a bit off-putting to new users, of which there will be many more in the months ahead I'm sure.

New users would just download the thing from scratch though, surely...?:tilt:

And if they can't use winzip to extract a few files...jeez... hehe :razz:

[three_jump]

great work (as usual) :trampolin:lovies3d:

[frokki]

Traction control added to FZ50 road carI knew it ;)

[Festy]

Festy - make sure you replace existing files. I got the same error because inititally I wanted to install patch S to a new directory to save damaging patch Q. But I got this message so I read the readme.txt. It states you must replace the existng files in the LFS working directory.

Hope that's a bit clearer.

Thanks Gentlefoot. I think my reply was the unclear one. I did have the zip file in the LFS directory, and I chose to "extract here". I also had to choose "yes" to overwrite (update) files that already existed. I also tried to extract it through winzip as well. Unless I'm missing something major (and if I am, boy will my face be red :x), I can't see what else I may be doing wrong.

[letdown427]

Thanks Gentlefoot. I think my reply was the unclear one. I did have the zip file in the LFS directory, and I chose to "extract here". I also had to choose "yes" to overwrite (update) files that already existed. I also tried to extract it through winzip as well. Unless I'm missing something major (and if I am, boy will my face be red :x), I can't see what else I may be doing wrong.

It could be you have some other files that you've modified that aren't being overwritten, but aren't compatible with the new patch for some reason?

Might be worth d/l'ing the full S2S version and dumping it on a dif partition etc just to check, you can always troubleshoot/move stuff around later, for now, I bet you just wanna try that BF1 hehe :thumb:

[neo force KP61]

got it working, really cool well done devs :smileypul love the new tyre physics more than BF1!! so much more real, my fav bit is doing a burnout in xrt and seeing the michelin stickers spin around lol :pillepall :D

[Gentlefoot]

Thanks Gentlefoot. I think my reply was the unclear one. I did have the zip file in the LFS directory, and I chose to "extract here". I also had to choose "yes" to overwrite (update) files that already existed. I also tried to extract it through winzip as well. Unless I'm missing something major (and if I am, boy will my face be red :x), I can't see what else I may be doing wrong.

hmm - strange. Sounds like you've done what I did. Try searching for the file it can't find. Maybe it really is missing for some reason

[nutty boy]

Well I still have the problem too festy and i'm not doing anything wrong either so join the club.
I just downloaded one from a german mirror and it's still not working.

[ekze]

Thaaaankssss a lot for the patch!!

[MarkMBT]

Fantastic job, big thanks to the dev team!

[tpa]

Wee, awesome. Though I only got to play with <30 fps and mouse, since I am at my parents place for the weekend, I can already tell how greatly the tyre physics have improved. I love how the tyres regain grip

Can't wait until I get home on sunday! I am stunned! :thumb: Thanks you devs for all the hard work!

[Festy]

Unless I'm missing something major (and if I am, boy will my face be red :x), I can't see what else I may be doing wrong.

Ummm... my face is red. :) I have just discovered that I have two versions of LFS on my computer. One much older than the others.

[nutty boy]

I may have that too. What did you do, did you have to delete them

[sturje]

Hail the devs! lol, good work guys :) :smileypul

[Gentlefoot]

lol - glad you sorted it m8.

[Festy]

Well I still have the problem too festy and i'm not doing anything wrong either so join the club.
I just downloaded one from a german mirror and it's still not working.

Not sure what to suggest, Nutty. Go over it again and check it all. I was simply overlooking the fact that I had a folder titled "LFS" and was dumping the zip file in a folder titled "Live For Speed". "LFS" was the folder it needed to be in. The other thing is, I actually figured this out when moving the newly downloaded zip file to the folder, so, I still can't rule out that the original zip file was dodgy, but my guess is that it was just operator (me) error.

[nutty boy]

I have a folder titled data and inside that I have another folder titled data.
Also I copied the data folder the other day as a back up in case it did go wrong.
Could any of these be a problem?

[steve30x]

Thanks for the great patch DEVS (ant the traction control:headbang: :trampolin :nana: )

You can downloat the patch on my website @ PC Games & PC Hardware (http://www.pcghw.coz.in) (Registration needed to see the download link)

[Festy]

I may have that too. What did you do, did you have to delete them

No. I'll delete the older one (I think it's version S1 0.3A) later.

[letdown427]

It's probably unlikely that any of the download mirrors are dodgy, I mean, there'd be a lot more complaints I think. I used the first of the two UK mirrors, 230kb/s, no problems :)

There shouldn't be a second data folder inside the original one...

[nutty boy]

I don't think I have S1 still on my computer

[Festy]

I have a folder titled data and inside that I have another folder titled data.
Also I copied the data folder the other day as a back up in case it did go wrong.
Could any of these be a problem?

This sounds like it might be the problem. I have no "data" folder within the "data" folder. You may have extracted to the wrong folder?

[Festy]

lol - glad you sorted it m8.
:thumb: Thanks for your ideas, Gentle.

[Gentlefoot]

I have a folder titled data and inside that I have another folder titled data.
Also I copied the data folder the other day as a back up in case it did go wrong.
Could any of these be a problem?

You need to extract the patch to the top level i.e LFS folder and replace existing files. Do not extract into the data folder. If you have two data folders one inside the other then my guess is the top level one will be the only one that does anything. My guess is you can delete the other one.

If that doesn't work, download the full version to a completely different location and apply the patch to the new installation. That will rule out any corruption of your old version.

[WorldFamous]

Great addition to LFS.

I had a quick go at Blackwood in the XF GTi and it seems a lot easier to get into corners now, no washing out or losing grip when it shouldn't on the slow/tight corners. Muchos more fun.


The Sauber is an absolute blast, it's a four wheeled missile. I love the grinding noise from riding the TC too. :D I was worried the car would simply be too fast for most of the LFS tracks but after trying Blackwood and a few Aston configs it seems like there is a reasonable balance between them all.

[letdown427]

Inside LFS folder there should be

data folder
docs folder
LFs.exe
card_cfg
cfg
deb (maybe)
interface_cfg
README

It might be worth putting the .zip in here, so you just need to do 'extract here' and it should ask you if you want to overwrite LFS.exe etc.

Inside data should be the following folders:
abc
dds
drv
hmn
knw
language
layout
lesson
misc
move
mpr
ogg
pic
settings
skins
skins_x
smx
snd
spr
veh
wld

Sounds like you extracted the zip into the data folder maybe?

[Maurolic]

Great, great, great.

:thumb:

[Acerlyte]

A big thanks to the LFS dev team, awesome work guys :)

[TaiFong]

I'm having a blast! Thank you very much devs. :)

[nutty boy]

In the 2nd data folder is:
abc- in it is, abc.abc and lfs.abc
dds- in it is alot of dds files like Sauberweel1.dds and TYRE.dds
drv- nothing
hmn- hemet.sre and hmn.hmn
knw- nothing
language- text documents of different languages
layout- nothing
lesson- all the lessons in different languages and in text documents
misc- bans.ban host.ply and wave in a setup info document
move- steer_BF1.ban and Steer_BF1_F.ban
mpr- nothing
pic- (now this is the fishy part) a picture of the BF1, the racing suit and the gloves
raf- nothing
settings- settings for every car including the BF1
skins- BF1 car and helmet skins
skins_x- nothing
smx- nothing
spr- nothing
veh- VOB files for every car
wld- as.lgh as.lok and then ASTON_GHOST.wld but it has all the tracks like that

I think i need to copy these files to my proper data file and it may then work

[Gentlefoot]

If there's nothing in the top data folder except another data folder then yes, you will. Good luck.

If all else fails create another full version. All this copying back and forth could have got some files in the wrong places.

[varjsa-9]

Thank you Devs :thumb::revs:

[nutty boy]

I'm not sure what you mean there gentlefoot.
Right when i extract it there's a data folder there obviously with all the stuff i just mentioned in. I extract it into my current data folder so it creates another data folder in the data folder. Should i copy everything from that second data folder into the appropriate folders in the first data folder

[Greboth]

the teasing of daily updates, the not telling us wat was going on for a long time, for giving us riddles about the blackwood guru. I forgive u for it all, it has been worth the wait.
nothing more to say than thanks.
As someone said above, i dont think i will ever buy another racing game again.

[psy00]

Great patch ! TC is amazing you can almost feel it when the car is going lose :) and traction control save it! it rulezzz :nod:

[Batterypark]

I must admit, LFS feels quite realistic now. I was kind of suprised though - as much as I liked it, I went back to playing Oblivion in less than 10 minutes :)

[CharlieP]

I'm not sure what you mean there gentlefoot.
Right when i extract it there's a data folder there obviously with all the stuff i just mentioned in. I extract it into my current data folder so it creates another data folder in the data folder. Should i copy everything from that second data folder into the appropriate folders in the first data folder

You extract it into your LFS folder !!! NOT the data folder ! :pillepall

Try again :D

[boosterfire]

Hi! I don't know if someone has the same problem or if it's my installation, but commands /track=as6 and /track=as7 don't seem to work in the menu.

[STRAHD]

Wow thanks SCAVIER, new patch is awsome.

[Vendetta]

woot! cant wait to take the new car for a drive when i get home :)

[gishuk]

amazing

just amazing

the bmw is INSANE, so low to the ground, goes like stink and the brakes OMFG they are impressive

[schofei]

THANK YOU DEVS

An incredible software has got even better !

[LRB_Aly]

Don't know if it has been mentioned, but it also seems that fuel consumption changed (at least on the FZR). I keep getting a cons. of 3.7/lap at Ky GP. It was at 6.6-6.8 before the patch.

[ayrton senna 87]

AWESOME we now have arai '5' series helmets :D

[Vrachos]

what the hell?
After i installed the patch i got the same startup screen as you get when you install it from scratch... further i get to the screen to pic a car, there i automaticaly get the hatchback. and when i then press Next... the whole thing breaks down, and i get a messagebox that tells me that LFS.exe has a problem!
any one else got this problem?
The first bits were normal, up until the breaking down bit.... Same here :(
Ive tried to apply the path over a clean S2A setup but i get the same
Im downloading now a clean S2S setup but Im not optimistic

[Billeh]

awsome work the bmw is just silly to drive with traction control off lol but loads of fun. Going to take a while to get use to the power but will be a blast trying :) . Anyway thanks devs great work and very very apricated excelent work from a very happy lfser

[deggis]

Amazing so far. LX6 feels easier with default sets than LX4 with "easy race" set (I guess Bob Smith has no job anymore (doing those easy race sets) :D). Watching a replay is just so orgastic, cars don't slide anymore 50 metres instead the rear snaps back to road immediately.

And the BMW really sounds like F1. At least sounds closer to F1 than food mixer. :D

[nutty boy]

My LFS folder is data

[AK-Chester]

:woohoo:
19 new cars... well, at least that's what it feels like. Hehe. Great work, thanks! :bowdown:

[sshhaabb]

Just Brilliant

[lesmes]

My LFS folder is data

If you cannot make it work, I suggest you to download the entire version. Just unzip it and play.

[Ball Bearing Turbo]

ARGAHGHA you guys are torturing me, I gotta leave work somehow BAH

[DeadWolfBones]

Hey guys who've played it already...

How is the drafting on the oval? More realistic? How about slipstreaming through flat corners... still get the push then snap loose, or is it better?

[xpjames]

Very good! Thanks

[ajp71]

The FB1 round Westhill is just mind blowing. Easy to drive but when pile ups happen they cause total chaos because of the speeds involved.

Taking T2 @ Westhill at 160 mph and it's still no where near the limit.

Thanks devs this is just awesome :D

[avellis]

Same here :(
Ive tried to apply the path over a clean S2A setup but i get the same
Im downloading now a clean S2S setup but Im not optimistic

Hello there,

switch to English for the initial bit and it will work.

Also see http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=6811

[mrodgers]

So, from what I've heard so far, as soon as I get home, the kids are getting some drowsy inducing cold medicine and heading to bed!! LOL.

Here's hoping the patch works well for me, because I can't download the full version on the dialup and I'd have to wait until Monday morning at work before the IT department gets in for a file that big :razz: .

[Vrachos]

Hello there,

switch to English for the initial bit and it will work.

Also see http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=6811
lol, so simle:)
Thanks alot

[Fonnybone]

:( I have to unlock the game again for some reason cos its calling me a demo racer.

Ya, i got the same problem, for some reason, the new patch has locked up LFS. Oh, well, i should have a few unlocks left ;)

[MadCatX]

Finally, after a half a year...... THANK YOU VER YMUCH SCAVIER!!!!! My weekend will be.. err, a little ovefilled by speed!!! THX AGAIN!!!

[JTbo]

Naturally thank you from your work devs.

Then to bad things. New improvements are causing cars to act even more slow motion when near to sping or spinning, same basic problem still there, feels like there would been just added more grip, very sorry to say but I think it is now gone to wrong direction as in reallife near sliding things happen really fast and not like in lfs now.

Improvements sure helps in online racing, but they don't add realism, imo. Maybe adding realism was not intention, but have more fun online races?

But if you put that aside, things look really good and racing is fun :)

[Speeder86]

This patch is REvoltion, good job and Thanks a lot Devs :thumb::)

[X-Ter]

Thank you so much Eric, Victor and Scawen for this patch. I have only driven about 30+ laps yet, but I think I can tell right away that my favourite cars (the GTR's) are much more even now. And the increase in grip makes close racing so much fun. Awesome job all of you :)

[Blackout]

I just love it! Cars feel and handle great and that BMW is just...just really really really fast, love the sound of TC working :D

Thank you! Big hand to LFS-team :clapclap:

[askoff]

Wow. You Devs are truly amazing people. It's so great how well you keep your promises when I've seen so many times that the game developers promise too much. Thank you. :)

[ChiliFan]

Ya, i got the same problem, for some reason, the new patch has locked up LFS. Oh, well, i should have a few unlocks left ;)

Same for me, but I was able to unlock it. It also removed my options and credits, but I guess that's to do with LFSWorld and I can't win credits anymore.

[Flotch]

nothing about the clutch pack???!!:really:

[ORION]

I love the patch, great feeling :D
awesome work guys (as usual) ;)

[SkyNet]

Tyre grip feels very realistic now! FO8 is a magnificent car to drive now! Almost impossible to spin, heh.
Congrats on the good work!

[DGCNYO]

FZ50 + TC = super！！！
FZ50is very good>.<

[Horseman]

Great work from the big three Devs.
Congrats.

[Evoluti0n_II]

the patch is great, the BF1 owns...:thumb:
the only thing i dont like too much is the bf1´s sound but i might be :pillepall
thanks a lot ScaViEr :woohoo:

[xapexcivicx]

Over 1200 racers online :o

[PITzamann]

Thx Scawen, fantastic work. :huepfenic


:star: :star: :star: :star: :star: 5 of 4 stars :thumb:

[Shaka]

That's fantastic ! Thanks a million and LONG LIVE LFS ! :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:

[rediske]

Thanks for another free(!) patch !!! :D

[PLAYLIFE]

Thank You !!:)

[poirqc]

It's downloading!

Thanx guys

[Qurpiz]

WOW!!!
1300 racers online!

[MataGyula]

Thank You !

[ldriver]

Thank you so much devs, it s a great patch ,worth every minute of wait:)

[Ball Bearing Turbo]

EGAD, this workday is DRAGGING ON :(

Maybe I should leave the forums and actually do work to make the day go faster :scratchch

[Matrixi]

Thank you devs. I love everything there is in this patch. :) Job well done, keep it up! :thumb:

[mpracer]

I have to take my hat off!!

Thanks a lot for this beatufull patch!

In 2002, after tested the S1, I was pretty sure this sim was my racing simulator.

Please continue in this direction

[Speed Soro]

I'd like to say thank you, but after 8 months I rather prefer say "finally".

Finally something new.

Lets wait for more substance to say thanks, cause at this moment that was just an well done obligation.

Scawen, no matter what, I admire your work and I am your fan, and I wish the success you deserve. Now back to work! :thumb:

BTW: the cars behave more realistic now. Good work in the tyres.

[K.David]

Why can't I see the details(usage, track set...) of some servers listed at LFSW? I think it is since the patch is out, but not sure. Anyone?

[Shotglass]

awesome work there ! lfs just keeps getting better and better

btw 2 small gripes about the server browser ... as north and gt dont show up correctls (says as6 and as7) and ther should be some sepeartion bewteen the car column and the server options column (the last car column has the same bg colour as the options)

[juhonieminen]

I had very high hopes about this patch and it's even better than I expected.
A huge thanks to the devs.:thumb:

[Shotglass]

oh and well done with finally updating the licensing system (thought something went wrong when i first extracted the patch) and apparently you gave us free unlocks for this so alls well

the real test though will be to see how long this works ... sure hope you didnt put hours of programming into something that will only work out for a day or two

[F2kSel]

I just tried the new patch and the physics feel better to me, sadley the FF is the same so I carn't play the game for more than a few mins.

The new car looks and feels great, this sim is really coming together.

Well done keep improving things, I just wish I could use it but thats my problem.

[deggis]

From what game are you coming from? rFactor/GTL (just a guess)? :) I find funny this complaining about the "lack of good FF". What kind of FF settings you use (Profiler & game) and what wheel do you have?

[philip41]

sadley the FF is the same so I carn't play the game for more than a few mins.



I have not touched LFS for a little while now but saw the new patch and gave it a try, the FF is great. Fells like it has improved to me.

PS thanks for the patch Scawen and co.

[AtomAnt]

I'm Speechless....:x

Well worth the wait.:thumb:

[STROBE]

Haven't got much mileage in yet with the new physics but they seem much better. Finally I can take a GTR with fat, warm, soft, wide slicks and whip the wheel round at 30mph and not have it understeer madly. :D And the BF1 is mad. In a good way.

But there is one minor thing I don't like:
Gear shift levers no longer hold the clutch
:(

[NightGamer]

Keep it simple, thx. :thumb:

[K.David]

I used to drive with wheel and driver view disabled, sad to see I have to turn it on when driving an f08 or bf1.

[steve]

bleh, no FF update or some real graphics..

[XsX!]

bleh, no FF update or some real graphics..
...

[spacedeck]

erm about this patch T, are we supposed to update S to T?

[Ball Bearing Turbo]

bleh, no FF update or some real graphics..

As far as I am concerned, the FF is complete - since it works through the physics. And that it does well! :shrug:

And there is graphics, therefore they are real. They are not imaginary graphics, I can see them with my own eyes. :razz:

[ebola]

bleh, no FF update or some real graphics..

moron

I like the font changes they actually make a BIG difference. Man the BF1 is great just had 3 hours of great racing :nod:

[Ball Bearing Turbo]

LOL

At least attempt to be nice :razz:

[Ziploc]

Scawen: Why has the 'sequentail hold clutch' been taken away from ALL the cars?

I used the technique of holding the stick back for a longer change or to give me more time to revmatch.

[V-Steve]

Thank you very much... great job guys loving the new bmw1! will give it a real road test on Sunday, great stuff.:)

[Ball Bearing Turbo]

Scawen: Why has the 'sequentail hold clutch' been taken away from ALL the cars?

I used the technique of holding the stick back for a longer change or to give me more time to revmatch.

Well, IMHO a real car does not function this way therefore neither should LFS :hide:

[Shotglass]

Well, IMHO a real car does not function this way therefore neither should LFS :hide:

how many hatchbacks with semi automatic gearboxes are there in the real world ?

[nesrulz]

Thanks for patch T!:thumb:

[alexoxol]

So, we need to download 30 Mbytes else again??? What are difference between S and T patches? :(

[Ziploc]

Well, IMHO a real car does not function this way therefore neither should LFS :hide:

Not necesarily in a real car sequential lever doesn't interact with the clutch. The player had more control with the 'hold clutch' than now.

[deggis]

bleh, no FF update or some real graphics..
Did you even try it? FF actually is different because tyres feel different (and better). I remember you once said that in GTL you feel more what the car does, personal opinion which we could make 10 page debait but lots of random FF effects doenst do the trick for me. :)

"Real graphics"? Huh? Btw Aston got graphics updates. :D

[mrodgers]

So, we need to download 30 Mbytes else again??? What are difference between S and T patches? :(
Did you read it? That's what I did, went back to Scawen's first post and READ! Do that and you have your answer.

It states it is compatible with patch S. Fixes a few computer/program crashes folks had (important), some admin codes (switching tracks on server), and having AS6 and AS7 in the server list rather than Aston North and Aston whatever it is.

[z3r0c00l]

thanks very much :) wonderful game, now improved, wohooo :):)

[Ball Bearing Turbo]

how many hatchbacks with semi automatic gearboxes are there in the real world ?

Niether is there any in LFS ATM:razz:

But if you want to play that game, then fine there should be no automatic clutch in LFS. Use a pedal or a button:nod:

[F2kSel]

From what game are you coming from? rFactor/GTL (just a guess)? :) I find funny this complaining about the "lack of good FF". What kind of FF settings you use (Profiler & game) and what wheel do you have?

I am using GTL but thats not the problem.
I've mentioned this before but here goes again, to get the wheel to center I need it set to about 30-40 stregnth but if I then turn the wheel more than 10-15 degrees it's as if the wheel strength goes to 100 which makes it very heavey.
Yes this may be realistic but as I suffer from RSI in my wrists it's just unplayable even tonight after just 30mins it's hurting and I've had to pack it in.

In GTL it dosn't increase that much when turning the wheel so I can run for many hours without problems.

I've seen other games where you can adjust the FF strength curves but not in LFS and thats what I need.

Apart from that and the sound the game is outstanding now with the new patch.

I do keep it on my HD and every now and again give it a quick run to remind myself what I'm missing.


Oh it's a MOMO and I've had LFS from day one and no amount of setting changes fix this problem short of using the profiler to do the centering but this overides and cancels the FF in the game and give me no usable feedback.

[TheEngineer]

Just downloaded and installed (S)- had to unlock - ok that's fine...

Now we have a T patch is this also requireing an unlock too? I would like to know before I install?

Thanks

TheEngineer

[Scawen]

Now we have a T patch is this also requireing an unlock too? I would like to know before I install?No. The S unlock works with T as well.

[ajp71]

"Real graphics"? Huh? Btw Aston got graphics updates. :D

Is it just me or are there more trees at Aston and Westhill?

[Shotglass]

But if you want to play that game, then fine there should be no automatic clutch in LFS. Use a pedal or a button:nod:

youre missing the point ... the point is that its irrelevant whether a real sequenatial box works that way or not ... because of controller limitations most of us drive with controlls that behave like a sequential box and the gear change buttons do all the work for us BUT without the clutch hold feature weve lost a bit of control on how exactly lfs does all this for us

[Viper29]

Thank you so much for this patch! The cars feel so much more real and I had a blast racing in the LX6. Before I was not even able to drive this car in a streight line. Racing is so much more fun now! :thumb:
I had high expectations regarding this patch and it is even better than I could imagine.:D

[Ball Bearing Turbo]

youre missing the point ... the point is that its irrelevant whether a real sequenatial box works that way or not ... because of controller limitations most of us drive with controlls that behave like a sequential box and the gear change buttons do all the work for us BUT without the clutch hold feature weve lost a bit of control on how exactly lfs does all this for us

No I saw your guys' point from the beginning. MY point is that it's redundant to complain about the functionality of an inherantly unrealistic operation to begin with, which is why I said just do away with it altogether and force people to clutch with a button or key or pedal. I'm not going to get worked up about it like I've actually seen other people do lol, but forcing people to clutch manually in the appropriate cars would be a good thing I think. It's really not that hard. You said yourself that you want more control, well, you'll never have to worry about losing that control if you clutch manually. Even with a button, having to worry about that aspect of the car is inherenantly more true-to-life than using an automatic clutch is. But to each their own.

[deggis]

I am using GTL but thats not the problem.
I've mentioned this before but here goes again, to get the wheel to center I need it set to about 30-40 stregnth but if I then turn the wheel more than 10-15 degrees it's as if the wheel strength goes to 100 which makes it very heavey.
Yes this may be realistic but as I suffer from RSI in my wrists it's just unplayable even tonight after just 30mins it's hurting and I've had to pack it in.

I've seen other games where you can adjust the FF strength curves but not in LFS and thats what I need.
myself what I'm missing.

Oh it's a MOMO and I've had LFS from day one and no amount of setting changes fix this problem short of using the profiler to do the centering but this overides and cancels the FF in the game and give me no usable feedback.
are you sure you have correct Profiler settings? Put Damper & Spring effects to 0% (and of course centering spring should be turned completely off too, you probably know this). Lower the overall effects strenght in the Profiler too (between 50-100%) - do especially that if you feel it's too heavy. In LFS with less FF you feel more. It might not feel like it after GTL - which is for me full of random canned FF effects. :)

But I actually prefer Richard Burns Rally's FF feel over LFS's, in LFS I miss the curbs and bumps (altough LFS tracks aren't that bumpy) which should feel more rough. And the sometimes weird too light center area. I have black MOMO too.

ps. There's one value at least which you can change for better FF. I'm not sure what it exactly does but try it: "From LFS main folder, open cfg.txt, find line FF Steps, type 256 save and quit"

[Vendetta]

hey, why on lfs.net did the front page picture go from the f1 car back to the xfr..:( the f1 car pic was damn sexy :smileypul

[Hyperactive]

hey, why on lfs.net did the front page picture go from the f1 car back to the xfr..:( the f1 car pic was damn sexy :smileypul

woot? BF1 still here.

vendetta :pillepall

:p :D

[deggis]

"Also: many other improvements" http://www.dvdplaza.fi/forums/images/smilies/hitme.gif

Not really the best advertising slogan...

[RiCiN]

Torrents here:

ALPHA S TO U (http://lfsnal.org/downloads/S2/LFS_S2_ALPHA_PATCH_S_TO_U.zip.torrent)
ALPHA DEDI U (http://lfsnal.org/downloads/S2/LFS_S2_DEDI_U.zip.torrent)



ALPHA T PATCH (http://lfsnal.org/downloads/S2/LFS_S2_ALPHA_PATCH_T.zip.torrent)
ALPHA T FULL (http://lfsnal.org/downloads/S2/LFS_S2_ALPHA_T.zip.torrent)
ALPHA T DEDI (http://lfsnal.org/downloads/S2/LFS_S2_DEDI_T.zip.torrent)


ALPHA T2 EXE (http://lfsnal.org/downloads/S2/LFS_T2_EXE.zip.torrent)
ALPHA T3 EXE (http://lfsnal.org/downloads/S2/LFS_T3_EXE.zip.torrent)



ALPHA T PATCH with DEDI T (http://lfsnal.org/downloads/S2/LFS_S2_ALPHA_PATCH_T_DEDI_T.torrent)
ALPHA T FULL with DEDI T (http://lfsnal.org/downloads/S2/LFS_S2_ALPHA_T_FULL_DEDI_T.torrent)

Seed away! :)

[P5YcHoM4N]

EGAD, this workday is DRAGGING ON :(

Maybe I should leave the forums and actually do work to make the day go faster :scratchch
Jump out a window, or download LFS at work. But you should have called a sicky.

And because I'm such a nice boy. Think of you (http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/2350/thinkingofyou5uc.jpg). Just for you BBT :)

[G.D.Matteoni]

:thumb: Thank You Scavier

[Ball Bearing Turbo]

Jump out a window, or download LFS at work. But you should have called a sicky.

And because I'm such a nice boy. Think of you (http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/2350/thinkingofyou5uc.jpg). Just for you BBT :)

ROFL

:thumb:

PS Luckily I am at home finally, just got the patch installed.... When boys go to bed (they're tired... really...) then it's time...

[Ball Bearing Turbo]

hey, why on lfs.net did the front page picture go from the f1 car back to the xfr..:( the f1 car pic was damn sexy :smileypul

you were at work before also weren't you!

Hit F5 :smileypul

[F2kSel]

are you sure you have correct Profiler settings? Put Damper & Spring effects to 0% (and of course centering spring should be turned completely off too, you probably know this). Lower the overall effects strenght in the Profiler too (between 50-100%) - do especially that if you feel it's too heavy. In LFS with less FF you feel more. It might not feel like it after GTL - which is for me full of random canned FF effects. :)

But I actually prefer Richard Burns Rally's FF feel over LFS's, in LFS I miss the curbs and bumps (altough LFS tracks aren't that bumpy) which should feel more rough. And the sometimes weird too light center area. I have black MOMO too.

ps. There's one value at least which you can change for better FF. I'm not sure what it exactly does but try it: "From LFS main folder, open cfg.txt, find line FF Steps, type 256 save and quit"


Well I have tried and tried again in the past with all these settings and the profiler is set to what you say as they turn out to be the best settings for nearly every sim.Most people won't notice how strong the force is unless you have problem like I do.

Anyhow this isn't the place to really be talking about wheels so I'll leave it at that.