Just had a go on LFS 0.04Q from 2002 :)

[Jesters Tear]

Can't recall playing LFS at such an early development, was probably hooked in a year later; I can't remember, anyhow, just had a go with the 2002 demo build...

What a long way LFS has come. The boys must've been developing now for at least five years - a real achievement I reckon.

Interesting that the FPS is not quite so fluid as today's version - clearly Lord Roberts of Blackwood has improved and polished the engine over these years as well as improvements in drivers/graphics cards/DX and PC kit in general I expect which I suppose helps.

A nice little step back in time - why not give it a try?

I'm back off to Blackwood (c) 2002 again now - just to admire those 'blinging' GTi wheels LOL....

Regards

JT

[Shotglass]

there also a .04k download floating around somewhere on the forum ... the earliest public version of lfs afaik

[Jesters Tear]

Well done Shotglass for guessing the F1 connection by the way!

[molocco]

hi,
i brought this topic up in the big disscussion this morning, but nobody reacted.
do you have the possibilities to set up a server for a nostaligia race?
or can we just race ip to ip?

peace mo

[Jesters Tear]

Hello Mo I saw your post earlier and that prompted me to give it a go - no can do on the multiplayer though I'm afraid - besides the performance in game is far from smooth for me despite getting very decent FPS out of S2...

Thanks for the idea though!

[Shotglass]

hi,
i brought this topic up in the big disscussion this morning, but nobody reacted.
do you have the possibilities to set up a server for a nostaligia race?
or can we just race ip to ip?

peace mo

dunno if anobody still has the dedi or if there is any dedi for those old versions
but if somebody runs a non dedi server it should work just like any other lfs server (might not show up on the list though

[molocco]

ok i run a game: ip 84.164.197.254
game name is: demo_test
no password
just try it, i dunno if my router is set up properly...

peace mo

game version: DEMO 0.04Q !!! that is what this topic was about... if you need that version just download it from here http://www.liveforspeed.net/?page=downloadsarchive

[Shotglass]

you might want to post some info on what exact version of lfs is running on the server

[molocco]

--> bump, because of the edit... so the addition would be recognized...

[Fragmatic]

Sounds like a riot, downloading now, even though I'm terribly slow at BW in the demo cars. :(

[atledreier]

Downloading now!

I'll be there in a jiffy!

[Jakg]

dwnloading now as wel and im not that bad at bl, but i have no sets!

[atledreier]

Can't get in, dude. Connect failed

[dUmAsS]

turn the server back on! :P

[atledreier]

Yeah! Turn the server back on or I'll stomp your cat! ;)

[molocco]

try connecting to specifc game, then either ip adress or game name
and connection type: firewall...

tell me if it don´t work... if it works i will see you

peace mo

[dUmAsS]

yourll need to port forward

[molocco]

yes i thought so and opened the tcp and udp 63392 as stated on the lfs website, but the old demo maybe needs other ports opened?
any ideas?

peace mo

[atledreier]

Ok, I got a game going on 81.166.171.235

And it's port 63992, btw

[dUmAsS]

Ok, I got a game going on 81.166.171.235

And it's port 63992, btw

nope: ClientConnect: Could not resolve host :(

[molocco]

no i get an error message when connecting:
"client connect: cannot resolve address" :(

peace mo

[Shotglass]

try 195.158.179.173 absolutely no fw or routers or anything running on my end

[atledreier]

did not receive guest info.. at least it connected...

[molocco]

okay shotglass: ur connection gives a different error; but i think i can connect to your game. the error is: "did not receive guest info"
think of turning master server off!
peace mo

[Jakg]

nope, can get into neither server!

give up does Jakg, it will not recogniz my pedals!

[atledreier]

Ok, try mine again...

81.166.171.235

[dUmAsS]

try host it on the master server...

82.44.126.169 (i tried myself but the list says no reply, i am behind a nat though)

[atledreier]

That master server IP is long since gone...

[dUmAsS]

That master server IP is long since gone...

ok... put this ip into the master server box

82.44.126.169

then click display list.

i have a game there called "sdf" (random keyboard bashing) join :D

[Shotglass]

think of turning master server off!

it was off all the time

[atledreier]

The weird part is, I like the sound in this version better...

[molocco]

okay it is running: put in master server ip and join game "sdf" ...

peace mo

[ajp71]

can't get my DFP pedals to work

[molocco]

is there no one out there anymore or is my server not working again?

peace mo

[spyshagg]

this sim came a loooong looong way.

its like i hit the jackpot when i chose this game as "the game"
look at it now!

[molocco]

we know but instead of waiting for the patch, we do some fun racing on old blackwood in cars with black windows... its just so funny... :thumb:

peace mo

[ajp71]

That was fun. Even in this version you can really feel the tires squirm and wow that sound beats S2/nK/N2003 by miles maybe could have some more random roughness added but it sounds gorgeous.

[Ziploc]

Are you all still playing?

What version?

[ajp71]

I don't think so.

[Shotglass]

i had a blast ... lets race again tomorrow night in case the patch isnt out by then

oh btw heres a cfg.sta in case you dont want to spend your time collecting credits (had to rename it for the forum)

[molocco]

so all the people still awake?
will be back tomorrow evening from around 1830 forum time.
then we can race the old tracks again...

see u on track

peace mo

[Shotglass]

ok time for me to go for the obvious troll before somebody else gets to claim credits for saying it

the physics are far better than nkpee´s

[tristancliffe]

I had a play (single player GTi) and it does feel remarkably like rFactor and nKP. Not quite (LFS has better tyre modelling), but close. And OMG it's so different (said like Vicky Pollard)

[Rtsbasic]

Just gave it a blast - so many memories :) Its easy to see why this simulation is addictive, even way back then you could clearly see the potential it had - and even such an old version IMO feels nicer than a lot of racing games these days.

Is it just me, or was the A.I smarter back then compared to S2?

[ajp71]

@Tristan - I'd of said it still feels like LFS more than any other sim.

[Shotglass]

I had a play (single player GTi) and it does feel remarkably like rFactor and nKP. Not quite (LFS has better tyre modelling), but close.

:D

btw is there a dedi server available for that version ?

[Dethred]

Can we get some screenshots?:thumb:

[Kencan]

Any of you old time LFSers remember getting into trouble up here?

BTW, I can't get my brake pedal to work? throttle is ok, mapped as separated axes, switch axes and I have brake but no throttle.

[Shotglass]

BTW, I can't get my brake pedal to work? throttle is ok, mapped as separated axes, switch axes and I have brake but no throttle.

try to find a setting where wither both work fully or one where both axes somewhat work (as in you can see the bars move when you play with the pedals) if you found this one manually switch the axes (not with the switch axes button but by inverting the axis selection for brake and throttle) after that both axes should work ... its a bit of trial and error but youll get it to work eventually

[molocco]

@rts: yes the ai was better then compared to the actual s2, but the s2 ai is not finished yet. they are now so dumb because they have no idea about tire temperatures and dirt, things which have changed since s2.

but if you give them good setups and let them train for 60+ laps they get a little better. but if you change the default name ai123... to some real names all learning is forgotten and they have to learn again. the same goes for every car/track combination.

peace mo

[ajp71]

I had to set my pedals to split axis.

[molocco]

to all the people not finding the old versions for download anymore: just follow my link on the first site of this tread and you´ll find the lfs download archives.
seems they messed up the main lfs page with todays updates so there´s no direct link found on the site anymore, though the contents are still there.

peace mo

@victor: if you read this, fix the lfs main page, please. thank u

[spacedeck]

ok this old version of the game, its cool but how do i get the view so its not so close to the wheel?

[molocco]

@space: in this version of lfs there are only four views: wheels, in car, following car and tv camera. the wheel view is adjustable in menue - view- field of view... take something around or above 100 to beginn with and look if it suits you. not much further modifications possible i think.

@ all: are u ready to race the old tracks again?

starting a small server right about now...
master server ip: 82.44.126.169
game name: demo_days
no password
game version DEMO 0.04Q (download in my link on the previous site)

peace mo

[spacedeck]

cant conect, im seeing 1 host but get no reply and when i try direct it says conection faild

[Shotglass]

cant conect, im seeing 1 host but get no reply and when i try direct it says conection faild

same for me (have you got the game running minimized ?

[spacedeck]

minimized like in windows mode?

i was running in windows but tried both

:shy: :shy:

[Shotglass]

the question was directed at molocco ... according to the readme the game pretty much stops doing anything when you alt tab out of it
the ones who were on my server yesterday will remember timing out more than once while i did set up my ftp

[spacedeck]

so you've had it running before already? well leats i know it works

[Shotglass]

yup ... last night we were playing for 2-3 hours

[csimpok]

Are you racing at the moment?

[molocco]

there seems to be no server online at the moment, and i think people had problems to join if i was hosting. yesterday it finally worked as shotglass hosted, dunno if he has time today...

peace mo

[spacedeck]

would be gd to do some raceing some time(well when im there):smileypul