But who needs a minute in Blackwood? [Archive]

Jakg

17th April 2006, 12:55

evans

17th April 2006, 12:55

What The Monkey?

St4Lk3R

17th April 2006, 12:55

so... this is our update for today d-.-b

axus

17th April 2006, 12:56

OMFG *twitch* *twitch*

DEVIL 007

17th April 2006, 12:56

Haha...its out....all speculation ended....except some other suprise devs have in their pocket:D .
We will get a F1 car in LFS.Another official car.....this is really good promotion for Live for Speed.

Thanks Devs:thumb:

Matrixi

17th April 2006, 12:57

WTF at What the **** ?

Madman_CZ

17th April 2006, 12:57

WTF..... ok loking at that i was pulling some of these facial expressions!!! devs are seriously having a laugh now!

dawesdust_12

17th April 2006, 12:57

Someone just kill us now, the temptation is just too much, It's soo teased, I feel like going BRAWR and bashing the crap outta my monitor.

Breizh

17th April 2006, 12:58

No way! :)
Can anyone make out the bottom left text?

Eldanor

17th April 2006, 12:58

IS that an official BMW Sauber F1 car? :drunk:

I need some sleep...

ATHome

17th April 2006, 12:58

Woo Yay... can't wait:schwitz::schwitz::schwitz::schwitz:

Ayahuasca

17th April 2006, 12:58

Wooohooo!

Sk0rp

17th April 2006, 12:59

Scaven please unban us, and solve the mystery for us.
We want to have NEWS/UPDATES/NEW FEATURES and no
GUESSING GAME

:shrug::shrug::shrug:

Please be merciful with us...

andy29

17th April 2006, 12:59

That definately looks like a rendered picture. The tip of the nose is slightly jagged, so surely it can't be a photo of the real thing.

But they don't have real cars :scratchch

sazea

17th April 2006, 13:01

I hope this is not the "surprise" :(

F1 isn't fun at all :(

evans

17th April 2006, 13:01

Notice that the tyres read Falcon RZ, and not Michelin.. hmm :scratchch

ste_

17th April 2006, 13:02

OMG now i'll be able to crash at even higher speeds -- thanks devs!!

tristancliffe

17th April 2006, 13:02

told ya ;)

Can I hold you responsible for any health concerns I may now be feeling due to this?

Edit: I guess Scavier didn't get permission from Michelin :shrug:

andy29

17th April 2006, 13:04

No way! :)
Can anyone make out the bottom left text?

:shrug:

kamo2000

17th April 2006, 13:05

this is madness. I can't take it any longer..i'm going out...(nothing new will show up today for sure)

Shotglass

17th April 2006, 13:06

OMFG i cant believe i was right with the whole intel/villneuve/vykos thing

evans

17th April 2006, 13:07

OMG now i'll be able to crash at even higher speeds -- thanks devs!!
I think you should just stick to the UF, ste :p

Eldanor

17th April 2006, 13:07

Anyone for an Aston Cadet F1 GP? LOL

Ok, I can't concentrate in my work now, great.

You owe me a work day guys XDDD

Djbob

17th April 2006, 13:08

Im sure the text start with F1, but its under licence isnt it for a few years by Sony?:shrug:

farcar

17th April 2006, 13:09

But they don't have real cars :scratchch

Looks like they do now! This development is the defenition of 'bombshell'!
I'm glas they waited until the aero and tyre improvements before this though.

Great stuff!

colcob

17th April 2006, 13:09

Jakg

17th April 2006, 13:09

:shrug:already done that above, i think it says P I P I N N I I N I I

herki

17th April 2006, 13:10

Maybe I am a bit too curious, but I would be interested in the traffic statistics the lfs-sites had the last week :schwitz:

KTy

17th April 2006, 13:10

:schwitz:
Sounds exciting :thumb:

DEVIL 007

17th April 2006, 13:10

hmmmm, pic called "teaser", cant read the text at the side tho, this needs invwstigating!

new car rumors were correct, just a shame the other thread was closed....

EDIT - Opin in Photoshop, what that in the corner? took the liberty of attacthing a right way round version...

Kidcodea made so far some nice renders as I saw.I think the second part is Nuno but dunno what is the 1st like F1**NUNO....hard to really read that.

evans

17th April 2006, 13:11

Excellent. This must be the first serious F1 simulation since GP4 and F1C. Its about time someone had another stab at it.

Looks like all that Intel sponsorship in the German ESL pro leagues has finally come up with the goods. Thats networking for you.
Sony bought the rights to F1 games some time ago, that's why we've only seen crappy plastic games with arcade like handling and cars that can lap Spa in less than 5 seconds.

RJC_pt

17th April 2006, 13:11

WTF?:drunk: :drunk: :rolleyes2
OMG:hyper:

See.... this should lap blackwood under 1min....
I was expecting a LMP like car, but oh well, maybie next time...

St4Lk3R

17th April 2006, 13:11

http://www.wordsmith.org/anagram/anagram.cgi?anagram=PIPMNINI

I think they come up with all these damn images because they found a bug in the last minute... be patient, it's better to get a bug-free patch.

ORION

17th April 2006, 13:12

The text means "nuno maia", its just a weird font and mirrored/rotated or something.
Anyways, you can see who made that without knowing what the text means.

DEVIL 007

17th April 2006, 13:13

Im sure the text start with F1, but its under licence isnt it for a few years by Sony?:shrug:
I think the F1 is under licence of the Sony not the CAR itself.Its property of BMW - Sauber i think.

danowat

17th April 2006, 13:14

Hehehe, I'm pimpin

Dan,

KeMoT

17th April 2006, 13:14

I am doomed, I hate F1 like stuff :(

jojo531

17th April 2006, 13:15

well,now i recon that's the really reason they redesign the dashboard of openwheels`~haha~

recieve my kiss, LFS team~~~:x

ajp71

17th April 2006, 13:16

How the ****ing hell did they pull that one out the bag?

Guess it must have been with the ESL/Intel link but still to get BMW Sauber behind it for free (or a nominal sum) is ****ing amazing.

Excuse my french

andy29

17th April 2006, 13:16

already done that above, i think it says P I P I N N I I N I I

Oops :thumb:
The forum is too slow to keep up...

joen

17th April 2006, 13:18

wtf...but...but....huh?...really?....:Looking_a

Scottie

17th April 2006, 13:18

BMW aren't affiliated with Williams any more... it's BMW + Sauber... the liveries are close, but that's about it

Warper

17th April 2006, 13:19

OMG thats ****in awesome :D And not only a F1 car, also the best one :) I'm really interested in the sound of this one :)

Greets,
Warper

St4Lk3R

17th April 2006, 13:20

if this BMW williams will really be drivable in LfS I wonder if it will be skinnable... I dont think intel or any other sponsor will allow that though... :/

Eldanor

17th April 2006, 13:20

Im sure the text start with F1, but its under licence isnt it for a few years by Sony?:shrug:

Race Driver 3 has some Williams F1 cars including the 2005 one, maybe Sony's license is only for an F1 game, like F1C was :)

I can't belive it, think of Westhill, Aston, Kyoto Gp... ok, enough coffee for today. This can't be good for health.

Micha

17th April 2006, 13:20

Are we there yet?

KiDCoDEa

17th April 2006, 13:21

:shrug:

u rotated it anti-clockwise..
try clockwise and u have your un-exciting answer :) ...

Alles

17th April 2006, 13:21

OMG AN F1 CAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i want it as sooooooooon as possibleeeeeeee

bo-kristiansen

17th April 2006, 13:21

:eek: ohh myy... F1 in LFS .... oh maaaan..... :faint:

thats the biggest step in the development of LFS so far.

cant get breath.... need to take a walk :schwitz:

PwrSlave

17th April 2006, 13:21

I did what i could. Take a look
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e177/PowerSlave21/there.jpg

NorwegianViper

17th April 2006, 13:23

if this BMW williams will really be drivable in LfS I wonder if it will be skinnable... I dont think intel or any other sponsor will allow that though... :/

Make it a Sauber,and your good to go :)
http://www.bmw-sauber-f1.com/en/index.html

farcar

17th April 2006, 13:24

...to get BMW Sauber behind it for free (or a nominal sum) is ****ing amazing.

Actually, I've always wondered why games developers would have to pay to have 'official' content in their games. This is free exposure for Sauber BMW, Intel, Petronas etc. They benefit from this, why should they charge money?

wien

17th April 2006, 13:24

So THAT's what Eric has been up to! Eeeeeheeheeheeheehee.... :faint:

ajp71

17th April 2006, 13:25

God cheers Kid no longer want to kill you now I know what you've been upto as well as bashing nK :D

J.B.

17th April 2006, 13:26

:faint:

evans

17th April 2006, 13:27

Jakg

17th April 2006, 13:28

quick knock up....

how do i do transparency in photoshop?

bberger

17th April 2006, 13:29

Oh my f**** goodness! The best thing on the screen is, that it is rendered.

AND look at the arms (Querlenker). They are much thinner than the current FO8 one's (like in the first screenshot). Maybe thats the "...and maybe a surprise.." Scaven talked about when announcing the patch? :D

Would be great!

joen

17th April 2006, 13:29

I have not been able to get my jaw in it's usual place ever since I entered this thread...

i mean, when you guys talk about a surprise you're not exactly kidding around ey!?

:Looking_a:Looking_a:Looking_a:Looking_a

:D

Breizh

17th April 2006, 13:29

Farcar, it's copyrighted material..

Micha

17th April 2006, 13:30

The guru said:
"AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAArggggghhhhh!!! I'm gonna eat all your souls!!!! Muuuuhahahahaharrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr........
But who needs a minute of sleep?"

wien

17th April 2006, 13:30

God cheers Kid no longer want to kill you now I know what you've been upto as well as bashing nK :DHaha.. Those nK guys have been sooo proud of their cooporation with those Formula Ford (or whatever) teams, and then LFS just goes ahead and snatches a frekkin F1 team.

Now, where is that Nelson smily? :scratchch

Madman_CZ

17th April 2006, 13:30

well todays update came rather early so me is thinking maybe just maybe it could be later today.. hmmmmm

tristancliffe

17th April 2006, 13:30

I want teaser1 (and subsequent ones) in desktop res...

Eldanor

17th April 2006, 13:30

Actually, I've always wondered why games developers would have to pay to have 'official' content in their games. This is free exposure for Sauber BMW, Intel, Petronas etc. They benefit from this, why should they charge money?

I've thought of that also, but think about the popularity that LFS is going to get with this, GT is great, F3 is great, but... F1 is F1. :)

Blackout

17th April 2006, 13:31

*faints* this is getting very confusing :Looking_a

But looooks greaaat :D

Warper

17th April 2006, 13:31

I can't calm down. We get a F1 car... ok. But we know that the dev's are really perfectionists, so:

1. Do we get a setable traction control?
2. Do we get more diff settings?
3. Do we get more tyres?
4. Do we get a sound update?

omg, can't believe it... We need definatley more safety zones around the track :)

Greets

BlackMan

17th April 2006, 13:32

omg, omg, omg

i need new patch!!!

racemania

17th April 2006, 13:32

ok now im definatly getting s2 next payday have they broken into the F1 champ it looks awsome cant wait now

Lampost22

17th April 2006, 13:32

I didn't get it...is this "less than a minute car" an actual pic taken from a real car or is it a new modeled one by the devs with slight differences but quite right for lfs?!?! :pillepall with 900hp less than a minute should be no question. :)

MarioX

17th April 2006, 13:32

if this is really the begining of LFS and BMW friendship (some sort of), then maybe road bimmers would be a possibility in the future... :scratchch
sorry, dreaming again :pillepall:D

...anyways, You are just fantastic, Scavier :thumb:

Shotglass

17th April 2006, 13:36

so ... whats my prize for winning this bet ?
http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?p=92282&highlight=vykos#post92282

joen

17th April 2006, 13:36

Actually, I've always wondered why games developers would have to pay to have 'official' content in their games. This is free exposure for Sauber BMW, Intel, Petronas etc. They benefit from this, why should they charge money?

I don't think the problem lies with the teams and sponsors, but with the formula 1 organisation. But an individual team can probably lend it's livery and such to a game. It probably just can't be officially named "Formula 1" though.
Atleast that's what i think :)

Cetram

17th April 2006, 13:36

I'm guessing BMW needed a simulator for this http://www.sportnetwork.net/main/s491/st94118.htm (http://www.sportnetwork.net/main/s491/st94118.htm)

jjones

17th April 2006, 13:38

OMFG whats is going on, i ask u who has had a burning desire to go around blackwood in under a minute? And is this for there own credit or for our pleasure! MY HEAD IN DONE IN!:Looking_a

evans

17th April 2006, 13:39

NoNo_Argentina

17th April 2006, 13:40

I think there'll be an update of the FV8. I don´t think they add and Formula 1 car staying the FV8..

Breizh

17th April 2006, 13:41

Way back when, Polyphony Digital snuck an FIA Lambo into Gran Turismo thanks to the car being the teams' property, before Lambo's.

Nono, why would they remove any car, or feature that's not broken? There's no redundance, the F08 is an F3000.

TRM.13

17th April 2006, 13:45

I've thought of that also, but think about the popularity that LFS is going to get with this, GT is great, F3 is great, but... F1 is F1. :)

Calla regay! :razz:

Group B power!

farcar

17th April 2006, 13:45

I don't think the problem lies with the teams and sponsors, but with the formula 1 organisation. But an individual team can probably lend it's livery and such to a game. It probably just can't be officially named "Formula 1" though.
Atleast that's what i think :)

Yeah, with Sony apparently having the F1 rights, this must just be a BMW/Sauber/LFS thing. I can't wait to find out how the deal happened though.

And what are they going to call the class? It can't be F1. It can't be Formula V8!

What will it be called?

joeynuggetz

17th April 2006, 13:47

Man, this is totally awesome news!! I guess I wont be needing nKp just yet.

RevMonkey

17th April 2006, 13:48

oh shit... i think maybe intel set this up... remember the commercial that LFS was featured on a little while ago by intel? i think that maybe intel actually had something to do with this little surprise :)

danowat

17th April 2006, 13:48

FO1 ;)

Dan,

Ryanry64

17th April 2006, 13:48

I hope this comes out today. I have energy for a change.

I've never really been excited about a simple patch before, but.. Yea..

:thumbsup::thumbsup:

Lampost22

17th April 2006, 13:49

The current F1 cars "only" produce 750hp.

oh ok, if u say so. I took that information from wikipedia and there id said

"Zum Ende der Formel 1 Saison 2005 hatten die besten Teams nach Ermittlungen eines unabhängigen Motoreningenieurs jedoch bereits wieder rund 925 PS bei 19.800 U/min erzielt."

meaning, that at the end of the 2005 season they already achieved more than 900hp.

and back in 1997 the had 750hp.

"Schon 1997 hatte man schon wieder das alte Niveau von ca. 750 PS erreicht, mittels Drehzahlen über 17.000"

:pillepall don't know what to believe now. :)

ajp71

17th April 2006, 13:49

Haha.. Those nK guys have been sooo proud of their cooporation with those Formula Ford (or whatever) teams, and then LFS just goes ahead and snatches a frekkin F1 team.

TBH this is not the same, BMW Sauber will have given the devs very little data about their 2006 F1 car. It will just be a 2.5 litre single seater revving to 20000 rpm and won't have every last subtletey about it like the nK data allows. Anyway who really cares when you've got a F1 car? :D

Warper

17th April 2006, 13:49

Maybe the traction control is the interesting new feature they played with :)

Shotglass

17th April 2006, 13:52

"Zum Ende der Formel 1 Saison 2005 hatten die besten Teams nach Ermittlungen eines unabhängigen Motoreningenieurs jedoch bereits wieder rund 925 PS bei 19.800 U/min erzielt."

with 2006 regulations they lost 2 cylinders so 2006 cars use v8 engines instead of the v10 they had in 2005 ... that set them back a bit powewise so now the engines produce some 750-800 hp at above 20.000 revs

MarioX

17th April 2006, 13:54

oh ok, if u say so. I took that information from wikipedia and there id said

"Zum Ende der Formel 1 Saison 2005 hatten die besten Teams nach Ermittlungen eines unabhängigen Motoreningenieurs jedoch bereits wieder rund 925 PS bei 19.800 U/min erzielt."

meaning, that at the end of the 2005 season they already achieved more than 900hp.

and back in 1997 the had 750hp.

"Schon 1997 hatte man schon wieder das alte Niveau von ca. 750 PS erreicht, mittels Drehzahlen über 17.000"

:pillepall don't know what to believe now. :)

now in 2006 F1 again produces ~750 hp because due to new FIA regulations 2 of 10 cylinders have been chopped off (displacement decreased from 3.0 to 2.4)

Edit: shotglass beat me to it, oh well :shrug:

farcar

17th April 2006, 13:54

I'm guessing BMW needed a simulator for this http://www.sportnetwork.net/main/s491/st94118.htm (http://www.sportnetwork.net/main/s491/st94118.htm)

That is a bloody good call Centram (and your first post too :scratchch).

A quote from the website:
" Inside are a selection of cars, some race-ready, others stripped down into individual parts. Here, the fans can compare the weight of a Formula One part with its series production equivalent, or slip into some race overalls and have photos taken in the cockpit. An interactive quiz both tests and improves the visitors’ Formula One knowledge, while the Pit Stop Challenge is all about showing off your practical skills. In the driving simulator, meanwhile, it’s you against the clock.

I wonder what track the punters would be driving at?

ajp71

17th April 2006, 13:55

Unless BMW Sauber F1 are going to be using LFS as a sim within the team? The drivers already use PlayStation games and stuff...

It'd take years for Eric to model all the circuits though... Maybe just one test circuit? Paul Ricard? :D

Mate thats just bullshit marketing no F1 team uses a PS2 to learn the tracks, just for PR shoots.

I dobut LFS will be used as a sim for Sauber seeing as they could not afford to release any data about their cars.

cannonfodder

17th April 2006, 13:55

The image's filename is "teaser1.jpg". Does that mean it's the first in a series?:scratchch

Eldanor

17th April 2006, 13:56

Calla regay! :razz:

Group B power!

Juas, te cambio 10 Group B por un F1 :)

El Rally Pack para navidades XDDD

DEVIL 007

17th April 2006, 13:57

mms://vipeurosport.yacast.net/eurosport/2006/03/09/tests_24015_4_25_0_320x240.wmv

Taavi(EST)

17th April 2006, 13:57

Maybe the traction control is the interesting new feature they played with :)

NO NO NO NO NO NO!!!!!! :x :schwitz:

*runs*

Btw. where did all the avatars go??

ajp71

17th April 2006, 13:58

Forum meltdown...

joen

17th April 2006, 13:58

Can you imagine the mayhem at T1 when the patch comes out :scratchch:D

afastest

17th April 2006, 13:59

bLaCk VaMpIrE

17th April 2006, 14:00

pleaso no F1 car!
ill never go to an public server, where this is allowed. thats going to be ****ing crazy, IF there will be an F1 car

_rod_

17th April 2006, 14:00

I just had a terrible precognition of what the oval servers are going to look like.

Thats not gonna look good.

Man cant believe that we are gonna have a F1 car in LFS, im dieing here, wont be able to wait much longer

Warper

17th April 2006, 14:01

lfsforum.com stripped down because of performance problems? (http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=6567)

pb32000

17th April 2006, 14:01

I imagine forum avatars and stats:scratchch have gone to conserve bandwidth..

cannonfodder

17th April 2006, 14:01

My hope is that the "interesting new feature" is some improvement to the sound. Because if they're going to put a proper F1 car in the game, it's got to have that signature scream.

ajp71

17th April 2006, 14:06

Wikipedia article on F1 engines:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Formula_One_engines#2006

My point entirely Scawen will have a bit more detail than this but only really what can be established from reading the regs and asking the odd question to see if your in the right ball park. Meanwhile Kunos was probably allowed to see properly under the skin of the cars he modeled.

racemania

17th April 2006, 14:06

the writing in the bottom corner says

F1BMW**

cant get the last 2 letters but its defintly F1BMW

i hope it going to be added to lfs cause i would really like a new F1 game for PC ill be getting s2 next payday then if its in there

bberger

17th April 2006, 14:07

So by the way...

has someone noticed 3 little things on that diary?

#1 @ Day1:
Has someone noticed the difference on the arms? They are much thinner than the original ones.

#2 @ Day3:
Has someone noticed, that the picture with da dashboard has been changed since the day of release? At the beginning it was blue like the FOX one's (or do I see ghosts..?) Maybe I'm wrong here.. BUT

#3 @ Day4:
Look at the right car. Has someone noticed that the rear wing isn't from the current version? There is no single car, that has got the rear wing so high.

Maybe we're awaiting "just" a graphical update, and the F1-Car is just an modeling update for the FO8?

Don

17th April 2006, 14:09

TBH this is not the same, BMW Sauber will have given the devs very little data about their 2006 F1 car. It will just be a 2.5 litre single seater revving to 20000 rpm and won't have every last subtletey about it like the nK data allows. Anyway who really cares when you've got a F1 car? :D
looks like ford gives very good data to nk
http://don.vn.cz/temp/videos/nk.avi
http://jeepy68.free.fr/netkar.WMV
http://koti.mbnet.fi/nakkitar/lightspeed.jpg
http://koti.mbnet.fi/nakkitar/ok.jpg
http://forum.rscnet.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=361093&d=1144751367

freebaSe

17th April 2006, 14:09

F1 - bad idea as far as i'm concerned.

Most people can't seem to drive the GTi

Maybe only allow those within n% of the WRs to have use of the thing at least - online certainly!

nutty

17th April 2006, 14:09

Im taking bets for Chaz vs biggie

My money is on biggie, then for Villeneuve to mouth biggie off to a number of newspapers calling him a washup

Xero82

17th April 2006, 14:10

Wow, knew it was a possibility, but a slim one nonetheless. Very exciting!:thumb:

bberger

17th April 2006, 14:16

So.. I know wor what I will use my 2 free SMS Alerts on LFSWorld! Just can't wait that the patch will be released. I'm gone for workout..

Linsen

17th April 2006, 14:18

Maybe we're awaiting "just" a graphical update, and the F1-Car is just an modeling update for the FO8?

Now, this is very unlikely, as the wtf-teaser then probably would be one of the stupidest moves in pr-history.

oops, my first post in this forum in months ... guess I'm back playing LFS when the patch is out.

Vykos69

17th April 2006, 14:19

Eat This, Sim World! :p ;)

-V-Max-

17th April 2006, 14:21

Hmm, Tihnk the patch is gonna be to late.. I'm less interested every second :p They started to early with giving teasers :p

ajp71

17th April 2006, 14:21

@Don - there are bugs in the physics, bugs in LFS if you haven't noticed your an LFS fanboy.

Lets just shut up about nK I could post high flying LFS cars and bugs in damage model all day long if I wanted to but I don't think this is the right place to have a nK/LFS bashing session.

nosushi

17th April 2006, 14:24

= u can go around BL in less than a minute with formula v8 :)

that what i think

tristancliffe

17th April 2006, 14:24

not as many bugs as in nK though, and that's an unbaised observation

Don

17th April 2006, 14:26

Lets just shut up about nK...
good, that was the plan :smileypul

Tweaker

17th April 2006, 14:26

Hey look, news about LFS, lets keep it that way!!!

ajp71

17th April 2006, 14:27

Totally OT - just watching the Superbikes @ Thruxton (ITV) and they're getting to 201 mph through the speed trap, bloody fast.

RacingSimFan

17th April 2006, 14:27

I think oval racing (in the hands of good drivers mind you) could actually become MORE interesting and challenging than before.

Think of this:

1)they've fixed the ride height bug and the slipstream effect
2)this new car should be capable of over 200mph

That means that you'd likely have to lift for the corners and without the mega draft the drivers who are the smoothest and can keep their momentum through the corner will succeed.

I hope we'll be able to skin the car cuz it would be a shame to make everyone drive identical BMW-Sauber liveried cars.

Batterypark

17th April 2006, 14:28

the writing in the bottom corner says

F1BMW**

cant get the last 2 letters but its defintly F1BMW

I think it says nunomaia. Well, that's what I thought it would say until I zoomed in, so maybe I'm just seeing what I want to see.

felplacerad

17th April 2006, 14:30

KiDCoDEa

17th April 2006, 14:31

guys leave the nk troll propaganda man ignored. u can post about carrots and he will say "omg funny i was eating carrots today while playing the fabulous unbuggy nkpro which u can download here and bla bla".
no one from lfs goes into nk forums and posts endlessly about lfs this lfs that, except themselves, the 5 kunos propaganda goons.
its an inferiority complex that makes him post about 50% of the content in that "lfs community tries nkpro". he is the police and im fine with that.
except when it gets to the rest of the forum and tries to cut ANY possible celebration lfs people honestly feel about their game and their updates.
then it becomes a matter for mods not for me.

Breizh

17th April 2006, 14:31

This update is already kicking ass and it's not even released yet....
LFSWorld should add meters of rubber left on the road to its stats.

tr1ax

17th April 2006, 14:31

Hey look, news about LFS, lets keep it that way!!!

We would if we had something to talk about, other than a rendered car and the hype machine at work ;)

kamkorPL

17th April 2006, 14:31

I guess that also means no patch today? I'm not sure if there is any point in awaiting something.

ajp71

17th April 2006, 14:33

Kid please grow up I didn't even start the comparison to nK and have already said lets drop it.

-V-Max-

17th April 2006, 14:34

I guess that also means no patch today? I'm not sure if there is any point in awaiting something.

So true, gonna get a life again.. bye bye

Madman_CZ

17th April 2006, 14:51

While all this stuff is very exciting, we are gradually running out of April and we don't have a delivery date yet. Come on devs, you've had your fun, put us out of our misery! Think of poor old Madman_CZ - he's going to have a coronary if this goes on much longer.

:rofl

H0ld3n

17th April 2006, 15:02

Wow

Exciting

n2oaddict

17th April 2006, 15:04

Oh come on, this is getting boring now.

XRRoy

17th April 2006, 15:15

hehe what a nice surprise:D :thumb:

Busta

17th April 2006, 15:19

Oh come on, this is getting boring now.

I agree... They should just tell us if its gona come soon or not.

Jakg

17th April 2006, 15:25

= u can go around BL in less than a minute with formula v8 :)

that what i thinkhow would you know? and btw, Biggie (the WR holder) can get 1:00.5x @ BL...

EeekiE

17th April 2006, 15:33

RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Excellent! :D

SchneeFee

17th April 2006, 15:38

:nut:

gatorman

17th April 2006, 15:40

Very excited. I enjoy running the open wheel cars. Can't wait!!!

BioFreak

17th April 2006, 15:41

Aww
SOrry if thats already been posted :
http://driventoperform.intel.com/eng/media/video/soundcheck/default.aspx
Have a look what that guy plays on his notebook :D

Hoellsen

17th April 2006, 15:44

LFS with the FO8. So? :)

joen

17th April 2006, 15:44

Aww
SOrry if thats already been posted :
http://driventoperform.intel.com/eng/media/video/soundcheck/default.aspx
Have a look what that guy plays on his notebook :D

w00t! :D

ayrton senna 87

17th April 2006, 15:44

wow awesome ive been away for like half a year but really its amazin whats goin on, and scawen eric and victor are clever guys and i wish them all massive success!!!!

ghengis

17th April 2006, 15:54

Didn't Vykos have something to do with that intel video...

seggons

17th April 2006, 15:55

He done the over taking move and has 'contacts' there.

SoloNijN

17th April 2006, 15:56

That movie, smells like new sounds :D

vladimir

17th April 2006, 16:03

That movie, smells like new sounds :D did you never learn not to trust advertisments? :D

XRRoy

17th April 2006, 16:06

did you never learn not to trust advertisments? :D
ye, thats just a fo8 with real f1 sounds but on it:)

wE1l

17th April 2006, 16:06

Actually, I've always wondered why games developers would have to pay to have 'official' content in their games. This is free exposure for Sauber BMW, Intel, Petronas etc. They benefit from this, why should they charge money?

Devs get money by SELLING LFS which features BMW/Intel/Petronas content, this is a commercial thing, I bet there will be loads of ppl becoming interested in buying LFS should it contain F1 stuff. You can't really tell who benefit more out of this, win-win for both parties, and Gosh, what a partnership!!!:thumb: :thumbsup:

Can't believe my first post in this thread is to answer that, still out of breath now. But for some bubble bursting---will it be merely an updated FO8? Remember F1 today uses V8 engines, maybe the only thing it's got to do with F1 is a BMW-Sauber livery...:schwitz:

TiJay

17th April 2006, 16:07

^ New body too. Can't wait for this... been looking for a decent F1 car sim for awhile...

joen

17th April 2006, 16:11

^ New body too. Can't wait for this... been looking for a decent F1 car sim for awhile...

I wouldn't expect the car to be available in the demo

vladimir

17th April 2006, 16:13

Can't believe my first post in this thread is to answer that, still out of breath now. But for some bubble bursting---will it be merely an updated FO8? Remember F1 today uses V8 engines, maybe the only thing it's got to do with F1 is a BMW-Sauber livery...:schwitz:
the picture on the site is a render...

been looking for a decent F1 car sim for awhile...
its not going to be a f1 sim with a complete field...

Frankmd

17th April 2006, 16:13

I wouldn't expect the car to be available in the demo

Whats your point?

Mazz4200

17th April 2006, 16:13

:woohoo:

Wow can this day get any better ?

It just did

Sunderland 1 Newcastle 4 :D :D :D

If they release this patch today i'm gonna need an :ambulance

SID135

17th April 2006, 16:14

I wouldn't expect the car to be available in the demo
pwned :thumb:

Losah

17th April 2006, 16:14

Wow, the devs really know's how to mess with us :P

But this looks great, as the rest of the new stuff. Really looking forward to it :)

-V-Max-

17th April 2006, 16:14

Haha, prolly not... Buy the game ! Now! ( maybe it becomes more expensive because of licenses? hihi )

Jakg

17th April 2006, 16:16

:D I wouldn't expect the car to be available in the demobut faster111 does, on the grounds that the demo hasn't had any updates:D

TiJay

17th April 2006, 16:26

its not going to be a f1 sim with a complete field... But atleast the car physics will be there for that car. I wouldn't expect the car to be available in the demo Lucky I've got a spare £25 lying around... Might just convince me to buy it, online F1 cars... :D

balee

17th April 2006, 16:42

There is some "code" in that F1 car picture at the left bottom. Who's gonna work it's meaning out? :)

There must be a reason it's there.

P.S.:
As I see, our favourite topic is closed :D

wE1l

17th April 2006, 16:47

There is some "code" in that F1 car picture at the left bottom. Who's gonna work it's meaning out? :)

There must be a reason it's there.

P.S.:
As I see, our favourite topic is closed :D

better read this thread through, lot have been discussed. btw the text seems to be PIPMNINI

balee

17th April 2006, 16:50

better read this thread through, lot have been discussed.

Oh, yes, seems I'm blind...

SiYaK

17th April 2006, 16:51

could devs post concreet news because it's boooooooooooring

AK-Chester

17th April 2006, 16:53

...who needs a minute in Blackwood? That would be me. :shrug:

MadCatX

17th April 2006, 16:53

There is some "code" in that F1 car picture at the left bottom. Who's gonna work it's meaning out? :)

There must be a reason it's there.

P.S.:
As I see, our favourite topic is closed :D

I dont think there is some hidden clue or anything like that. IMO devs just presumed they will be able to release the patch before they run out of the New features themed sceenshots. Because they promised a screenshot every day, they must give us something. And we are now searching for some "mysterious hidden secret surprise". S+E+V must laugh if they are reading this.....:tilt:

SoloNijN

17th April 2006, 16:53

could devs post concreet news because it's boooooooooooring

No, YOU think it's boring, but most people think it's pretty exciting :)

SiYaK

17th April 2006, 16:56

i'm not alone to think it's boring
it was funny a start but now it's so long

Vain

17th April 2006, 16:56

Many people think that this is boring. It began becoming boring yesterday.

Vain

Don

17th April 2006, 16:58

ATHome

17th April 2006, 17:00

so what would be better? if they just shutup till the patch is released? ppl have no idea what they want. first they moan devs doesnt communicate anymore, now, when they do every day, people moan its boring? dont you think they have a reason not to release it yet?

And this day isn't over so many things could still happen, you'll never know

MadCatX

17th April 2006, 17:00

It is not boring - boring are that "metaphysical theories" about that "surprise". If Victor put a pig instead the F1 car on the page, would you say "Great, there will be animals running over the tracks in a patch?"

Madman_CZ

17th April 2006, 17:01

they are really streching ppl patience lol, i must say it has become less exciting and is dragging on a little. I mean its up to the devs to do what they want but all this hype and updates is killing us.. will need new nerves soon....

edit* give me my avatar back :D

colcob

17th April 2006, 17:01

wE1l

17th April 2006, 17:02

Oh, yes, seems I'm blind...

take it easy m8, never meant to offense, was trying to help u actually... :shrug:

anyways, who's gonna ever make PIPMNINI to work with LFS?:D

deggis

17th April 2006, 17:03

looks like ford gives very good data to nk
http://don.vn.cz/temp/videos/nk.avi
http://jeepy68.free.fr/netkar.WMV
http://koti.mbnet.fi/nakkitar/lightspeed.jpg
http://koti.mbnet.fi/nakkitar/ok.jpg
http://forum.rscnet.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=361093&d=1144751367
Haha, join the Kidcodea's nKp trolling fan club. That's really ridiculous, you can take same kind of flying in the air buggy pics in LFS. I thought I was a LFS fanboy but at least I take other sims seriously.

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I think this mystery thing doesn't have anything to do with LFS, devs have just gone nuts with this teasing. On the other hand that Intel-LFS commercial sounds suspicious. :scratchch

-V-Max-

17th April 2006, 17:03

with the F1 we know why they made the long Aston GT, with the downforce and HP of the F1 those corners would feel great !

Shotglass

17th April 2006, 17:04

so what would be better? if they just shutup till the patch is released? ppl have no idea what they want. first they moan devs doesnt communicate anymore, now, when they do every day, people moan its boring? dont you think they have a reason not to release it yet?

some more information than just sparking up tons of speculations would certainly be apprechiated by everyone

joen

17th April 2006, 17:04

Patience is a virtue. Why are you even assuming the patch is done, and that Scavier are just holding the patch just to be cryptic for the sake of it? Would you rather have a flawed patch?
The patch is probably (near) finished, but you always have to test it extensively to be sure the last flaws can be corrected.
Some of you are really taking al this way too seriously. It's not like your life depends on it right?
When the devs feel the patch is ready for release, i'm sure they will release it asap.
I think the cryptic messages are fun, this way alot will stay a surprise until the release. And who doesn't like surprises? :)
It surely brought alot of excitement to the forum

Madman_CZ

17th April 2006, 17:04

Ok, crazy thought.
It seems fairly likely that BMW Sauber will be using LFS in their new Pit Lane Theme Park, which is apparently being unveiled at Nurburgring GP this year (may time) http://www.sportnetwork.net/main/s491/st94118.htm.

So the question is, will visitors to this theme park be expected to drive round Blackwood, or Aston? Will the multi-million pound BMW theme park experience include some fictional tracks from some developers that 98% of visitors have never heard of?

It seems unlikely to me, which means that OMG we might even, if we're incredibly lucky, get a genuine F1 track in the game. Most likely the Nurburgring GP circuit (not the 14 miler) seeing as thats where the theme park is starting.

interesting thought there colcob :scratchch but it shouldnt really matter what track you drive their car on unless they own the nurburgring track as well, to them blackwood aston could be just another test track even tho they are unrealistic really.. To bmw it will be all about the car and how it handles..

MWFV6

17th April 2006, 17:07

It's tedious. It's bad enough having to wait so long with zero communication but having each little change drip fed with this teaser campaign makes me feel even further distanced from what was a down to Earth honest game development.

I'm happy for those that have found it genuinely exciting though, and that does seem to be the overwhelming majority fair play to you all.

I gues LFS is changing in many many ways :)

colcob

17th April 2006, 17:07

Yeah, but I'm talking about the commercial operation charging people entry to the 'Pit Lane Theme Park Experience'.

If I was an F1 fan who stumped up my cash to get in, got a go on the simulator, and was faced with a fictional track that I'd never seen before in my life, I'd be quite pissed off. In that context, you would rightly expect that the simulator featured a genuine F1 track.

Hyperactive

17th April 2006, 17:07

There is one problem with this info releasing system. It just builds up the hype which was too big even before the 1st april update. And now it just gets even bigger.

Hope people will understand that it isn't S3 what is to be released...

And the track the BMW-sauber are going to be used might be some bmw owned test track. Does bmw own any racing tracks. Though they test a lot at the 'ring :D :D :D :D

n2oaddict

17th April 2006, 17:11

so what would be better? if they just shutup till the patch is released? ppl have no idea what they want. first they moan devs doesnt communicate anymore, now, when they do every day, people moan its boring? dont you think they have a reason not to release it yet?

Well, for me communication isn't a pic (render, or whatever) of a F1 car with some text that reads ''What the f***?'' :shrug:

ajp71

17th April 2006, 17:11

The patch is probably (near) finished, but you always have to test it extensively to be sure the last flaws can be corrected.

The patch will have been finished and tested before any of the updates even began the devs are just trying to create intrest in the patch, although I think they've got to release it today or they'll start loosing intrest.

sinbad

17th April 2006, 17:11

I don't mind all this teasing stuff, but I understand why some people do. After all, the April update stated that every day they would "post some info and a picture or two about a new feature or update", and the last two days really don't check all of those boxes.

"Guru says blah blah...."
"What the ****?" mmkay thanks for the info :)

Homeless_Drunk

17th April 2006, 17:12

ajp71

17th April 2006, 17:14

And the track the BMW-sauber are going to be used might be some bmw owned test track. Does bmw own any racing tracks. Though they test a lot at the 'ring :D :D :D :D

They could get permission to make a Nurburgring for the pitstop display only. The Goodwood Festival of Speed Hillclimb was made for a GPL display stand there but was never released due to the terms it was made under.

ajp71

17th April 2006, 17:15

The gauges wernt like that during the initial update where they?

No, the FOX dials have also changed.

-V-Max-

17th April 2006, 17:18

OT: haha, I just found out that you can press all the buttons of your Momo Racing in the overview in the configuration screen :scratchch totally wack ! the Vortex thing is :pillepall it wobbles :D

Huru-aito

17th April 2006, 17:20

The patch will have been finished and tested before any of the updates even began the devs are just trying to create intrest in the patch, although I think they've got to release it today or they'll start loosing intrest.

You seem to have much of knowledge of nK and that might give you some sort of credibility here (at least has in my eyes). But don't go guessing things concerning LFS development / release schedules :)

Kashopi

17th April 2006, 17:21

:wtf2: ..... :sleep2::sleep2::sleep2::sleep2:

afastest

17th April 2006, 17:26

The patch will have been finished and tested before any of the updates even began the devs are just trying to create intrest in the patch,
will have been finished? Do you mean that patch was finished and tested before before 11th of april, which is the day of the first update?
Read this:
http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?p=95166#post95166
Scawen:
Eric and I are working full time on the patch and we're still not finished.

The date is 5th of april.

although I think they've got to release it today or they'll start loosing intrest.
No, even if some feel bored and/or start to lose interest, they will be back the moment they know the patch is out.

DevilsTower

17th April 2006, 17:27

The forums are so slow and I didnt feel like reading though the entire post to see if anyone else noticed this ...

http://www.liveforspeed.net/page_images/aprilupdate/dialsA.jpg

The gauges wernt like that during the initial update where they? Didn't they change?

And whats up with the "BRAK" thing? Thought it was brake:shrug: Or am I completely misunderstanding?

Hyperactive

17th April 2006, 17:28

I see no reason for "delaying the patch release". And I don't think they are or even would consider doing such thing.

As they say they are finishing the patch, just to make sure it's 100% bug free. Probably.

Adding F1 car is nice, very nice indeed. If it was what the today's update meant. Though having an F1 car means that there are many little things to add that need to be there in order to provide F1 alike experience. And these are TCS, F1 tires, more electronics in general + something more than just the car.

ajp71

17th April 2006, 17:29

You seem to have much of knowledge of nK and that might give you some sort of credibility here (at least has in my eyes). But don't go guessing things concerning LFS development / release schedules :)

Don't quite know wtf your on about? If you seriously think the devs hadn't finished the patch six days ago after over 6 months of work they seriously should have thought twice about giving updates.

As for nK I have no clue wtf your going on about but am getting seriously fed up about this boards constant need to bash nK. I like nK get over it. I also like LFS so figure that one out.

Christian Seidel

17th April 2006, 17:29

You seem to have much of knowledge of nK and that might give you some sort of credibility here (at least has in my eyes). But don't go guessing things concerning LFS development / release schedules :)

No no, he's got a good point there. The devs obviously know what will be in the patch and how many daily updates they can make. So when they started the teasing they knew when it had to end, which is the release date according to the fact that they said they would give an update every day until release.

So I think we can be pretty sure that the devs already have a fixed release date. And if this is the case they must be sure that the patch is ready for release on that date. And you can only be 100% sure about that if the patch is already finished and tested.

Just my 2 cents...:shrug:

DEVIL 007

17th April 2006, 17:30

Haha, join the Kidcodea's nKp trolling fan club. That's really ridiculous, you can take same kind of flying in the air buggy pics in LFS. I thought I was a LFS fanboy but at least I take other sims seriously.

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I think this mystery thing doesn't have anything to do with LFS, devs have just gone nuts with this teasing. On the other hand that Intel-LFS commercial sounds suspicious. :scratchch

1st the commercial si pretty old and that nKpro is a big "shit" in a way it was programmed.I never say a worse program coming out which crash almos every time.I have a lot of friends with same experience.And to rule out everything out I even installed fresh WinXP,WHQL drivers,latest DX9 and also .NET.And result...its still crashing.
And no I dont have anything overclocked.

Hyperactive

17th April 2006, 17:32

1st the commercial si pretty old and that nKpro is a big "shit" in a way it was programmed.I never say a worse program coming out which crash almos every time.I have a lot of friends with same experience.And to rule out everything out I even installed fresh WinXP,WHQL drivers,latest DX9 and also .NET.And result...its still crashing.
And no I dont have anything overclocked.

So you're saying it is shit even if you haven't been able to test at all?

I had my share of problems in the start and I can understand your point.

ajp71

17th April 2006, 17:33

Can we please stop talking about nK?

Hyperactive

17th April 2006, 17:34

Yes, this is no the nkpro update thread.

So the today's update means there will be F1 car in LFS? 100% sure about it?

EDIT: the forum seems to be working well again, let's start the spamming :D

axus

17th April 2006, 17:34

afastest

17th April 2006, 17:34

I also like LFS so figure that one out.

Hahhaha, you just edited this one, there was something else before the edit :) ;) :)

axus

17th April 2006, 17:37

So the today's update means there will be F1 car in LFS? 100% sure about it?

Would they show us that to tell us that there isn't one?

ajp71

17th April 2006, 17:38

@Axus - I think a lot of people are starting to complain because they feel the devs are able to release or at least give some more proper info right now.

Hahhaha, you just edited this one, there was something else before the edit :) ;) :)

Yep changed my mind don't want to start a fight ;)

fangio86

17th April 2006, 17:38

i think nK namie is a very good game, we should think it in the time when it was done, thats coz nKp was that promising, i tought in preorder it coz i really had a respect about namie, but i feel that nKp never improved in physic way. The man who did the graphics did a very good work, but the other guys just looked and say... "oh that looks fine" once he finished the work they re-launched the namie (who has less crashes) like it was finished.
That is sad coz they hurry too much, and thats coz lfs is way better, they take time and make the things very good.

About the update pic of today, i think its nice if the friendship is with BMW coz they probbly license some M5 or Z4 alpina, but thats coz im not a OW fan, if u are OW fan this is a very good surprize, but not for me :(

anyway tnx devs, u are working so good, keep like it :D

cya

SamH

17th April 2006, 17:39

...am getting seriously fed up about this boards constant need to bash nK. I like nK get over it. I also like LFS so figure that one out.
I wonder if this is a good time to point out that THIS IS the OFFICIAL LFS user's forum. You can thoroughly expect some seriously biased, pro-LFS posting here. I mean.. come on, seriously!? Live For Speed forum? THE one? OFFICIAL?

I think, when all is said and done, whether you like the pro LFS stance that people take here or not, you're gonna have to take it on the nose. Or should we all stop talking about what we think of other nations, for fear of offending overly sensitive spies?

Welcome to the LFS forum, like it or lump it.

axus

17th April 2006, 17:40

Fair enough but those people should just think that once it is out it will be even more than they expected.

WE ARE GETTING A REAL F1 CAR IN LFS!

What more info do you want for one day?

afastest

17th April 2006, 17:41

And you can only be 100% sure about that if the patch is already finished and tested.

Just my 2 cents...:shrug:

No, did you read Scawen's post on 5th of april? So you claim that they finished the patch and also tested it in just few days? Personally I believe the patch is tested at this moment, and the release date will depend on the results of testing.

Don

17th April 2006, 17:42

from liveforspeed.net:
While we finish the patch, we will post some info and a picture or two about a new feature or update, each day.

Hyperactive

17th April 2006, 17:42

If it was the surprise it might mean that the patch day (P-day :D) is not far away. I just hope they have updated some of the more obvious stuff as well.

EDIT: more obvious stuff (http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?p=102437#post102437) imho

MWFV6

17th April 2006, 17:42

To me, the fact that we are getting an F1 car in LFS is anything but boring. Infact, I'm more excited about this patch than I ever was. I was expecting to have a nice patch waiting for me today, but instead I know that when it comes in the next two weeks at most, I will also get an amazing model of my favourite F1 team's car. It is an astonishing achievement for a 3 man project to get a license to such a car and I believe we must aplaud them for it. This is beyond all my expectations for LFS and I believe that those complaining must re-think what they are saying.

I am pleased to hear you are so happy.

But everyone has to respect that each person has their own wishes and desires out of LFS.

Personally for me what originally attracted me to LFS was the fact it wasn't an open top racing sim and it made out of passion. Seeing these updates has made me wonder just what direction LFS is going in and wether or not I still fit into that picture.

I didn't particulary like watching it go commercial, going through this teaser period reflects part of that, but now learning there's the possibility that a larger comerical organisation may be involved is a little off putting - But we need to learn more about that.

Huru-aito

17th April 2006, 17:43

Don't quite know wtf your on about? If you seriously think the devs hadn't finished the patch six days ago after over 6 months of work they seriously should have thought twice about giving updates.

As for nK I have no clue wtf your going on about but am getting seriously fed up about this boards constant need to bash nK. I like nK get over it. I also like LFS so figure that one out.

nK reference was there just for what I typed, you have knowledge of it, but you don't have same knowledge of LFS. But people might see things as if you would know as much about LFS as you do about nK. Nothing more. I also like other sims, not just LFS.

What comes to my thoughts about patch completion and release, I'll say there's no point holding a finished patch and not releasing it. And like we can see, the patch isn't out yet. My racername could give you a hint for why I might know things.

ajp71

17th April 2006, 17:43

@Fangio - If you want to talk about nK post here:
http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=6217

@Sam - I take your point although I've never seen such constant sensless bashing of a sim on other forums (including to ISI sims).

MarioX

17th April 2006, 17:45

...
About the update pic of today, i think its nice if the friendship is with BMW coz they probbly license some M5 or Z4 alpina, but thats coz im not a OW fan, ...

me agrees :nod:

SpooSH

17th April 2006, 17:47

I don't think the patch is completely finished and they're just teasing up to the release date, I do think however that it is in the final stages and we'll get it as soon as it is finished. Think about how they use to release patches/new versions and also the fact that the Formula cockpits were updated after some discussions in this forum. That mostly proves they're still working/testing.

I'm mostly happy about the teasing/updates, except for the last few days. I like the ideea of mistery pics and teasers, however I would also like some (not necesarily related to the teaser pics) information to go with it.

Anyway this deal (or whatever it is) with BMW is definately a HUGE thing for LFS and it can only guarantee LFS will grow and become even better. :thumb:

wE1l

17th April 2006, 17:48

Fair enough but those people should just think that once it is out it will be even more than they expected.

WE ARE GETTING A REAL F1 CAR IN LFS!

What more info do you want for one day?

That is a huge step IMO, giving us more picture on how s3 will look like, well in my dreams we would see all major motor sport championships F1/GTR/GP2/ETCC in one F briliant sim. Am I dreaming too much here?:x :razz:

What more for tomorrow? I for one, would like see Nurburgring GP circuit.:thumb:

Sorry, I've gone too far.:D

Christian Seidel

17th April 2006, 17:53

So you claim that they finished the patch and also tested it in just few days?

Not quite.

I believe that the patch was ready before they announced the daily updates.

Finishing the patch can also mean making a complete package out of all the development stuff to make it ready for a public release after it has been tested. And maybe also preparing the download mirrors for the run that will be up to them could be described as finishing - in a way...maybe...

Well, that's just my humble opinion as I said. :D

axus

17th April 2006, 17:53

I don't know how long you have been around LFS but the devs do have their teasing roots that they seem to be going back to.. I also highly doubt that LFS will become ruled comercially because of this new car. You have legal documents for that. The devs would not allow this car in if it were to change the way in which LFS was developed. It will just give LFS more exposure and popularity, in which I see no harm at all.

I also think that everyone who is bitching should back off and allow the devs to enjoy their victory - it is a victory... I am sure they are pretty proud to show us such an exciting peace of news and you shouldn't walk all over it. The patch will come when it is ready and it will be mind-blowing. Have a bit of patience.

SamH

17th April 2006, 17:55

@Sam - I take your point although I've never seen such constant sensless bashing of a sim on other forums (including to ISI sims).
I honestly think that it's a combination of two things. One of those, which is pure speculation based on my own observation.. nKP did set itself up for a fall. I don't have it, have never used it, and won't do until such time as it carries something of interest specifically to me. No criticism there.. just mere fact. It doesn't meet my sim needs. YET.

The other side of things is that LFS has a self-perpetuating community of enthusiasts. It's the internet's equivalent of patriotism, and every government knows how powerful that lever is. It rises of its own accord, naturally, in the face of an externally perceived threat. It's an inevitability and it's something you can't dissuade by reasoned argument. People are, inside, what they are. And their allegiances will out.

I'm sad that you feel offended by the anti-nKP feeling that you see in some, on here. Mostly I think it's more good-humoured than you perceive, but neither of us have the power to stop nature taking its course.

SamH

17th April 2006, 17:57

I also think that everyone who is bitching should back off and allow the devs to enjoy their victory - it is a victory... I am sure they are pretty proud to show us such an exciting peace of news and you shouldn't walk all over it. The patch will come when it is ready and it will be mind-blowing. Have a bit of patience.
:thumb: Totally agree.

spookthehamster

17th April 2006, 17:57

Is anyone else terrified at the idea of driving an F1 style car around BLGP? I've made cars that can do 200mph with Mechanik and they're horrible to drive, but that's mainly because of tyre issues, hopefully that's been sorted out. Traction control would probably needed in a 750bhp RWD car too ;)

afastest

17th April 2006, 17:58

from liveforspeed.net:
While we finish the patch, we will post some info and a picture or two about a new feature or update, each day.

What comes to my thoughts about patch completion and release, I'll say there's no point holding a finished patch and not releasing it. And like we can see, the patch isn't out yet. My racername could give you a hint for why I might know things.

Nice, the claims about the patch being finished before releasing updates have been proved wrong.

Human's mind is an interesting thing, most you have waited since last summer for a physics update without going crazy, and now when it is certain the patch will come within two weeks, now some start to go crazy? Take it easy people :)

Taavi(EST)

17th April 2006, 17:59

about that BMW test track, well i found something with google earth...

Blackout

17th April 2006, 18:00

Tractioncontrol, plaah! If the tires are fixed, wich seem likely because teasing us with a F1, there shouldnt be much problems.

Shotglass

17th April 2006, 18:00

So you're saying it is shit even if you haven't been able to test at all?

yes he is ... a program that either not running at all or causing that many problems on anybodys pc is a sure sign of bad programming ... and not nearly enough betatesting ... it a fact that nkp doesnt run stable at all at the moment which is sub par for a game on sale

What more info do you want for one day?

maybe some info on how deep the collaboration with sauber goes etc

Hyperactive

17th April 2006, 18:01

about that BMW test track, well i found something with google earth...

Those ...uhm... 2 corners look tempting lol (not)

Christian Seidel

17th April 2006, 18:02

Nice, the claims about the patch being finished before releasing updates have been proved wrong.

Human's mind is an interesting thing, most you have waited since last summer for a physics update without going crazy, and now when it is certain the patch will come within two weeks, now some start to go crazy? Take it easy people :)

Sorry, but there is not a single proof - only assumptions.

And this is exactly what I made - only assumptions.

You should take every assumption for what it is and not say one of them is a fact and the other one not. Stay objective please...:)

wE1l

17th April 2006, 18:04

Hyperactive

17th April 2006, 18:04

Tractioncontrol, plaah! If the tires are fixed, wich seem likely because teasing us with a F1, there shouldnt be much problems.

It's 300hp more than the F08 produces. Tricky might be too soft word for it :)

Hoellsen

17th April 2006, 18:05

Tractioncontrol, plaah! If the tires are fixed, wich seem likely because teasing us with a F1, there shouldnt be much problems.

Right. Michelin and Bridgestone must have gotten their tire physics wrong. What other reason would be there that F1 uses TC?

bberger

17th April 2006, 18:07

The forums are so slow and I didnt feel like reading though the entire post to see if anyone else noticed this ...

http://www.liveforspeed.net/page_images/aprilupdate/dialsA.jpg

The gauges wernt like that during the initial update where they? Didn't they change?

I thought the same on page 5. At the first it looked like FOX's new dashboard. Even on day 4 there seems to be an updated car (rear wing) and on day one the FO8 has smaller arms like the current one.

MarioX

17th April 2006, 18:07

about that BMW test track, well i found something with google earth...
although fun for top speed quests, that would be pointless for racing...
if there really gonna be an RL track, it's definitely one where BMW F1 is beeing driven, tested or hopefully raced - nurbie gp was already mentioned :smileypul

ste_

17th April 2006, 18:07

Jees, will all you people whining about the 'daily updates' that the devs are giving us kindly stfu. The main information is that there's going to be a patch before April is over. So assume the worst, and that means Sunday April 30th.

If the patch is released before that, great. If the devs give us teasers up to that date, great. That is all little bonuses and a bit of fun. If you don't like it, come back on April 30th and see if the patch is out by then.

Madman_CZ

17th April 2006, 18:08

for people who cant drive! :nod:

afastest

17th April 2006, 18:08

Sorry, but there is not a single proof - only assumptions.

What? One is taken from liveforspeed.net itself (While we finish the patch), and the other told by a beta-tester? Or maybe you mean the devs are not telling the truth (which is actually lying) ?

fangio86

17th April 2006, 18:09

mm i belive that patch is already finished and tested. reasons: LFS devs are serius people, so they wont promess a pic each day if they dont know how many days left to patch out. and they said a last date, end of april, if they finish patch.. hmmm tomorrow, test and find a big bug, thats not so good, i doubt that :P

i think they are giving us some kind of fun with this "detective patch" :P

cya

TaiFong

17th April 2006, 18:09

The most exciting piece of information that underlies the fact that there is apparently going to be an F1 car is the fact that they must have gotten the tires to behave quite nicely to have the guts to include such a ridiculously powerful car! Can't wait to feel the cars stick to the road!

molocco

17th April 2006, 18:09

<conspiracy mode on> we heard about the physics and the aero updates that make strong cars more controllable. we saw a dense, foggy version of blackwood. we have a picture of a sauber and saw that bmw used lfs for a commercial. next thing is the bmw pitlane attraction show with driving simulators. this is to be reveiled at the nurburgring formula1 gp in may.
--> me thinks that the devs licenced lfs to bmw for their show, therefore they needed a f1 car. now the big issue is: what bmw gave to the devs? just money? i dont think so - i think they payed for a nordschleife licence or at least for a f1 gp circuit. the fog is also very good for simulating the nordschleife since there is often foggy or rainy weather along the track. </conspiracy mode off>

peace mo

Blackout

17th April 2006, 18:10

It's 300hp more than the F08 produces. Tricky might be too soft word for it :)

Yes but you must remember that driving (mostly slower) corners with FO8 is currently crap because the physics. When you have a more faster corner its much better. Different game but was it GP3 where there wasnt traction aids and it was drivable, and those cars had about 900hp, dunno. Thortle control :shrug:

and to someone: The reason F1 has TC and LC is allowed is that FIA just cant control they arent using them. Todays computers. And because of the safety. But we dont have those problems do we. I think it wouldnt much LFSish to have aids.

Christian Seidel

17th April 2006, 18:12

What? One is taken from liveforspeed.net itself (While we finish the patch), and the other told by a beta-tester? Or maybe you mean the devs are not telling the truth (which is actually lying) ?

If you would have read my post carefully you would have seen that I assumed that finishing a patch can also mean something else but only coding it. :smileypul

But hey - you're right, I'm wrong.

Are you OK with that? At least I am...:)