The Blackwood forest guru

[ORION]

Im wondering, what this forest guru wants to tell us!

Originally posted by lfs.net (http://www.liveforspeed.net/?page=t_a_u)
The old blackwood forest guru once said,
"better waste a minute in life, than life in a minute".

My thoughts:

1. It has something to do with Blackwood. Arent those gurus always present at night or something? This could be a hint for night racing (again :D )

2. The point is somewhere at the word "minute". Maybe it has something to do with the laptimes on blackwood? the FO8 for example has a WR of almost exactly one minute (if biggie was just a bit faster :P )
Maybe they have given the FO8 a bit more power, resulting in being able to break the one minute barrier on Blackwood for the first time? Or is it the new tyres making the car a bit faster?
It could be even a special competition, that the guy who uploads the first 0.59.xx lap can test the patch before anyone else :D

3. It has something to do with car damage. Maybe we'll see some new damage features soon.

4. They posted it just for fun to make us go crazy :D

5. This post is supposed to tell us that the patch will be quite nice and worth the wait, and that we shall lean back and wait till its there.

[Batterypark]

Um, who posted it? What was the context?

[Qurpiz]

There is a place called Blackwood in Tamriel (ES: Oblivion)too, maybe the devs have found a mysterious guru there? :scratchch

Nevertheless, I'm now on a quest of my own to find that guru!!

[Viper29]

Maybe it has something to do with what it says on the homepage regarding the new physics: "...losing a few seconds instead of losing the car completely." :scratchch

[axus]

Um, who posted it? What was the context?

http://www.liveforspeed.net/?page=t_a_u

Right at the bottom of the page.

Has anyone wondered about the name of the page? t_a_u? Something April updates?

[Viper29]

Maybe "The April Update"? :tilt:

[ORION]

Some quote from wikipedia regarding the word "guru":

Originally posted by wikipedia (http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Guru)
The syllable gu means shadows (lightmaps finally?)
The syllable ru, he who disperses them,
Because of the power to disperse darkness (night racing?)
the guru is thus named.

[DeXteRrBDN]

my bet: 5 post counts for:

3. It has something to do with car damage. Maybe we'll see some new damage features soon.

[Highsider9]

my bet: 75 post counts for:

4. They posted it just for fun to make us go crazy :D

[mr_x]

my bet: 75 post counts for:

4. They posted it just for fun to make us go crazy :D

that's what i was thinking aswell :)

[tristancliffe]

http://www.liveforspeed.net/?page=t_a_u

Right at the bottom of the page.

Has anyone wondered about the name of the page? t_a_u? Something April updates?

Come on Anton, you should know better than to ask silly questions than that :pillepall:smileypul


*runs*

[kamkorPL]

They are telling us patch won't be out today, and that we should go and enjoy easter holidays. ;)

If it has something to do with lfs, then that's the suprise, could be night racing like others have said(tho I doubt :]).

[Flotch]

the guru want to say : "calm down people, you are using your F5 key a bit too early, the patch will only be released tomorrow or the day after"
So for today that means : today or tomorrow :smileypul:scratchch
:D

[CharlieP]

I found this.... could it be relevant ???

http://www.ruhanisatsangusa.org/godman/godman_8.htm

WITHOUT A GURU ALL IS DARKNESS

He converts darkness into Light

The term Guru consists of two words: Gu meaning darkness and Ru meaning Light. Hence Guru means one who can lead us from darkness to Light, from untruth to Truth, and from death to Immortality.

Sounds good :D

It is going to be LIGHTS !!!!

:D

[SamH]

Someone else has it sussed in the other thread, I reckon. "Better waste a minute in life than life in a minute" is a caution to go steadily rather than to rush into something. It's what a programmer might say, if he were holding back to make SURE that what he was about to do was absolutely right.. release a very important patch. One last double check.

Blackwood forest may refer to one of the devs - perhaps Eric? Whoever's concept the Blackwood circuit was, anyway. If anyone would be the guru of Blackwood, I expect Eric would be. He'd know every "bump", every kerb.

[axus]

Perhaps it is an anagram?

[Blackout]

Perhaps it is an anagram?

Thought that, but Im not good in when playiong with words.

But I showed you the Guru allready in that massive thread monster. Here he is again, Im little drunk...Im sorry.

[atledreier]

Perhaps it is an anagram?

Oh man.. here we go.... :scratchch

edit: Found one relating to the 'take your time in programming' approach:

Old Blackwood Guru = bug could (make) workload

Ok, it doesn't really work, but the devs are driving me crazy here :rolleyes2

Edit2:
Another one, maybe they are updating the sound system? :trampolin

Blackwood Guru = a loud curb gowk

edit3:
Or maybe Scawen found some bug that caused slowdowns?
workload bug c u

[the_angry_angel]

You guys have too much time on your hands lol :D

[atledreier]

Ok, the proof they did it just to keep us occupied and stop pressing F5:

Blackwood forest = abort cowed folks

[OPK]

Orion, we already have lightmaps - what exactly do you mean? :)

[ldriver]

I know the Blackwood guru quite well,i think he didn't mean anything,he was drunk as usual:D

[Yaamboo]

Perhaps it is an anagram?
http://www.wordsmith.org/anagram/anagram.cgi?anagram=blackwood+guru

[Frankmd]

A Bug Luck Dr Woo, so Dr Woo luckily found a bug.

Maybe there was a little bug in the tyre physics, and they found it by luck...

Hm, sounds plausible.

[Tyrion]

My expert team of code breakers have been at it all night, and they've come up with some truly astonishing results.Among the more conspicuous are,

Sorrowful Geoduck Bat

and

Cloudburst Awoke Frog

Fascinating.I feel we are getting very close to solving this enigma.

Also I am happy to report that my good friends at Gauntanamo have been on high alert since Mr. Nightracing arrived a few days ago.With the evidence mounting against him, it is only a matter of time before he cracks.He may go insane from the extended light & sound 'therapy' sessions before that though, but that is sometimes the price we pay for good intelligence.My friends assure me he is being treated in accordance with the UN charter and the Geneva convention, so all is well.

Keep up the good work, gentlemen.

[GianniC]

6. I just bet Orion is being silly - again - and try's to make us go mad.

I bet 1 week LFSWorld spam on that :D

[Kajojek(PL)]

Let me quote myself.
I think it means that its better to sometimes wait with something than rush and get something bad. For example if youre going on a trip somewhere its better to slow down and reach the destination safetly than go quickly and die. I also think they are laughing at us maening: Be patient you will get better things in patch. Rush us and get crap.

[hrtburnout]

A BUCKO DRUG OWL! That's the solution! An owl doing drugs!

:D

[ORION]

Orion, we already have lightmaps - what exactly do you mean? :)
All we have is rubbish gouraud / polygone shading :P

We only have shadow maps under the cars, but thats something else ;)

I mean the world polygones.

[Matt_Driver]

its obvious,

stay safe on the roads in real life, over the easter weekend

because your life can be wasted in a minute.

i know that in australia we get all these tv ads to do with slowing down etc.

its better to waste a minute in life (refers to not rushing thru yellow traffic lights to get your destination quicker etc.)

[(SaM)]

It's just a quote they liked; (Better waste a minute in life than life in a minute.) And they put a blackwood forest Guru context around it to make it LFS-ish.

[Taavi(EST)]

The old Blackwood forest guru once said: It is always better to post in an existing thread than to start a new one...
Get it?? (i haven't slept in a while)

[Breizh]

Any maxim can mean anything, out of context; the context here is LFS' april updates... Better (for the F5-happy) to waste a minute (reading about it once it's already out) out of your whole life, than an entire evening twiddling your thumbs, dedicated to waiting for a minute's worth of info to be posted.
[/obvious]

[ORION]

Hmm more info from the guru :)

http://www.liveforspeed.net/guru.html

the image is named "geniusloci.jpg"

interesting :)

[ajp71]

Hmm more info from the guru :)

http://www.liveforspeed.net/guru.html

the image is named "geniusloci.jpg"

interesting :)

Is there anyway of getting a directory listing of the images folder? ;)

[v4forlife]

i always think blackforrest gataue(sp) when i see that.....hmm, maybe im just hungry

[Dibblah]

Hmm more info from the guru :)

http://www.liveforspeed.net/guru.html

the image is named "geniusloci.jpg"

interesting :)

New car!!! New car!!! Gotta be :)

F1? ;)

[Shotglass]

the devs must enjoy teasing us like that

scavier = evil

[Breizh]

:D
Great teasing..

[kamkorPL]

Or maybe Scawen is learning his lil son the techniques of human manipulation? :scratchch :razz:

[Qurpiz]

Or maybe Scawen is learning his lil son the techniques of human manipulation? :scratchch :razz:

"Leo, would you like to see daddy teasing nerds again?"

Evil Scawen.

j/k

[spyshagg]

"a" 1 minute blackwood car.... ? but biggie already did that with a Fv8
http://www.lfsworld.net/get_spr.php?file=5&w=1

and with the new physics, its probably going under a minute pretty easy (for biggie lol)

[danowat]

Hmm more info from the guru :)

http://www.liveforspeed.net/guru.html

the image is named "geniusloci.jpg"

interesting :)

The plot thickens LMAO

http://www.geniusloci.co.uk/

Me thinks you guys have been watching to much x-files.....

[Bob Smith]

"Leo, would you like to see daddy teasing nerds again?"

Evil Scawen.

j/k

LOL :D


(f-o-r-u-m s-l-o-w)

[shim]

could someone make a background of that pic of BW?

i got no skills in picture editing/creating :(

[BurnOut69]

It definitely sounds like a new car for me, hope, really hope, its not another open wheeler, but some kind of group c prototype. :D

[ATHome]

It definitely sounds like a new car for me, hope, really hope, its not another open wheeler, but some kind of group c prototype. :D

This would be a dream...

Or even something like a Porsche 917K:thumb:

[Sp3cTr3]

maybe its the lx8 that was too outta control for s2 alpha??

[ORION]

yea could be :)

[Jakg]

"Leo, would you like to see daddy teasing nerds again?"

Evil Scawen.

j/kloooooool. One of the few posts i've actually laughed out loud at!

[Nick_ll]

Hmm more info from the guru :)

http://www.liveforspeed.net/guru.html

the image is named "geniusloci.jpg"

interesting :)
Not sure exactly where you guys got that "it's a car" idea from...
Certainly that pic tells me fog.

[SparkyDave]

Not sure exactly where you guys got that "it's a car" idea from...
Certainly that pic tells me fog.

Thats not fog thats mist :D

SD.

[Jakg]

http://whois.net/whois.cgi2?d=www.liveforspeed.net

hmmmmm

maybe you could ask Scawen yourself...

[ORION]

it says "who needs a minute for blackwood"
and this sounds a lot like a fast car, like LX8 for example

[MyBoss]

this is so mysterious.

[MyBoss]

it says "who needs a minute for blackwood"
and this sounds a lot like a fast car, like LX8 for example


lol, the LX8 won't be faster then the FO8, never.

[GTR_Yuni]

Then what could it be?

RaceAbout GTR perhaps?

[ORION]

Well a RAC GTR would be in the GTR class, so it shouldnt be faster either.
The new car must be REALLY fast...

[BurnOut69]

Do you know something we dont, Orion? :)

I bet its gonna be some kind of prototype. Maybe Lemans alike, maybe Group C, but definitely a prototype.

[Scoop]

i thnik there is nothing special gona be apart from what we already know and the devs are prob laughing behind theire computers atm, get a grip everyone :smileypul

[Qurpiz]

Or MAYBE they're adding a car so slow, that one minute in Blackwood is meaningless, because the laptimes with that car is measured in hours, maybe days...?

But seriously, we're not having a new car. Devs just have a really crooked sense of humor.

[VecTreX]

this is so mysterious.
And funny... :D :razz:

[Shotglass]

And funny... :D :razz:

oh hush you omniscient beta tester

[Cipher]

i found this in the anagram thing "DRAG CLUB UK WOO" lol maybe a new drag racing track? or something my name is an anagram of evil try and guess what it is lol

[shim]

a le mans car?

[Misko]

How about this: "who needs a minute in blackwood?" means that with new tyre and aero physics fixes lap times will be slower and we will NEVER go under a minute in Blackwood? ;)

[DeeS]

How about this: "who needs a minute in blackwood?" means that with new tyre and aero physics fixes lap times will be slower and we will NEVER go under a minute in Blackwood? ;)

that's good point :)!! :):thumb:

[AJS]

How about this: "who needs a minute in blackwood?" means that with new tyre and aero physics fixes lap times will be slower and we will NEVER go under a minute in Blackwood? ;)

How about this : Remove T1 chicane and enlighten yourself with some neons and kill the guru in under one minute :pillepall

That makes as much sense as any of the other posts.

[Breizh]

This is a great example of a million monkeys at a million typewriters never getting it right :D

[DGCNYO]

is new UFR？twin turbo UFR

[Cipher]

i think that it means the update is ready but they arent gonna release it

[bbman]

i think that it means the update is ready but they arent gonna release it
Either this, or another 2 theories:
They make an exception for today's update because they want to celebrate easter with their families, or
We get a new BL config or just updated detail on Blackwood...

But I like the light-theory... :scratchch :D

[Misko]

And when coupled with a foggy pic of Blackwood, the new and exciting feature they've been experimenting with might be variable track temperatures and grip on and off the racing line? That racing groove is already in LFS from very beginning, its generated in real time. Only thing it needs is to affect grip and be synchronised with the host so that everyone gets the same track conditions on join. Does that sound like a plausible new feature to be the surprise? It fits with "who needs a minute" and other quote "better waste a minute..." also implies patience, either for the release of the patch or on the track.

I love this riddle. It kinda made an adventure game out of LFS sites. ;) Seems like patch won't be out until we solve it. :)

[XCNuse]

its better be fooling around but make the right decisions... than give your life away just by one simple mistake

[Blackout]

its better be fooling around but make the right decisions... than give your life away just by one simple mistake

:scratchch If you get off the line you can spinn in flames right!? :O

[Vain]

I think I hate that Blackwood Forest Guru guy. From the deepest of my heart. Forever.

:tilt:

Vain

[marsaz]

If you get off the racing line the old blackwood guru knocks you off the track. So better waste a minute for braking and you wont get wasted in a minute by the guru:Looking_a

I mean look at the guru.. Damn, he's big!:scratchch :razz:

[PLAYLIFE]

that's good point :)!! :):thumb:

That's good point? THAT'S GOOD POINT? U gotta b kidding me...

[Kashopi]

I think that's not the way.
Look at the name of the image of Blackwood in the "guru" page: "geniusloci".
And looking in the wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genius_loci


Usage: "Light reveals the genius loci of a place."


Are you thinking the same as me? :D

[illegal]

I was, certainly now you posted what I was about to post while ravaging through all the previous posts giving me a headache.

[detail]

I thought about fogs with variable visibility. And, judging by the things found by you guys, hope to see dynamic light changing. :)

Hope a real weather feature (like in online aviation networks) appears.

[Torben]

ultimate Theorie:

who needs a minute in blackwood??, right who needs it, if you can have 10, which leads to the picture on the site: think about the corner thats underneath the camera, and think of it as being opened and adding a new track segment. As it is blackwood forest it leads to a long roadlike track uphill and downhill..... yes sth like the green hell, wich takes you 8 mins to get around. so who needs ONE minute...


greets

torben

[seggons]

I reckon only this first part is valid, the rest is rubbish and to throw us onto the wrong path.

Look at the main site;
The old blackwood forest guru once said...

I rekon sometime tonight we will click on that and there will be a page saying happy easter people, heres the new patch (or words to that effect)

The idea is not to think too deeply into it. My guess is the answer is maybe right under our nose, but we just cannot find it because were in too deep

:)

[Wenom]

LFSTweak and its cartype bike... could it be bike? omgomg :x

[NotAnIllusion]

I reckon only this first part is valid, the rest is rubbish and to throw us onto the wrong path.

Look at the main site;
The old blackwood forest guru once said...

I rekon sometime tonight we will click on that and there will be a page saying happy easter people, heres the new patch (or words to that effect)

The idea is not to think too deeply into it. My guess is the answer is maybe right under our nose, but we just cannot find it because were in too deep

:)
The patch probably won't come out of the blue or be difficult to spot, because it's incompatible with the current version. It's no good having some ppl update and the rest left wondering why they can't race. Ideally I'd imagine the devs would want maximum spread for the patch as soon as it's out, making sure everyone knows it's out. These easter egg links/pages sound very unrealistic :scratchch

Nonetheless it's fun picking the pages and images to bits.. :p

[GianniC]

New record at LFSWorld: People using LFS websites: (Now: 469 / Record: 711)


:D Yiiihhaaaa :schwitz: :thumb:

[rAcEr2418]

lol, thats amazing, this patch has got us absolutely bonkers!! If i had a digi camera i would have a pretty craz avatar as well:scratchch. Anyways, me and torben were dreaming on Ventrilo: Who needs ONE minute, so, like he said, a Nordschleife but in Blackwood with a new prototype endurance car, dynamic light changing AND WEATHER!!!!

cheers,

RaCeR

P.S. honestly, i agree with those that say we're thinking WAAAY to hard and either its a simple answer, or they're screwing with us!! Patch will be out soon, so lets be patient, i think that is part of it too :shrug:

[ajp71]

Maybe they'll be colder weather (ie. the fog)?

When it's colder the air is denser and therefore you do get a large increase in power. With the long straight at Blackwood 10 bhp more would make a large difference to lap times and could mean laptimes under a minute.

[marsaz]

Maybe they'll be colder weather (ie. the fog)?

When it's colder the air is denser and therefore you do get a large increase in power. With the long straight at Blackwood 10 bhp more would make a large difference to lap times and could mean laptimes under a minute.

it would turn down the grip tyres produce too
so you may be faster on straights but more caution would be needed during cornering.

[BLACKPLAGE]

i do not think that they put a new single Car in, if there is a new, it should be quite equal to the FV8. so i guess it will be a group c proto or somewhat like that.
maybe a pimped Ultima GTR could handle the Speed of the FV8

we will c

AlexX!!

[Vain]

@Pimped up GTRs:
The XRG is already turbocharged from 140hp to 490 hp in the XRR. If you charge it up even more it's going to burst into flames 5 seconds after launching!

Vain

[schofei]

The devs were teaching us a lesson

Easter is the most important religious holiday of the Christian liturgical year, so most people don‘t have to work on Easter Day. It is sunday anyway. Should we really expect the devs to work rather than celebrating Easter?

The Blackwood Guru is a wise man. Unfortunately people usually don‘t understand what wise men say, the Blackwood Guru is no difference.

The old blackwood forest guru once said...
"better waste a minute in life [by pressing F5 and waiting for the release of the patch], than life in a minute"
"but who [really] needs a minute [of driving] in blackwood [on Easter Day at all]?" [ -> nobody !]

Unfortunately the Guru is a Blackwood Guru only, so he did not talk about other tracks besides blackwood. Otherwise his words probably would have been clearer.

So the message is:
There are more important things in life than a patch/update for an already excellent product.

[GianniC]

I think the Blackwood Guru is just saying: better wait some more for a patch then get an unfinished patch.

But it seemed to had an upside down effect..

[Sheepy1977]

ehhhhh,It is too hard to someone whoes mother-languge was not English....I cant understand what it said at all.

[ORION]

I hope this helps a bit:

You should better lose one minute in your life, than do something stupid and lose your whole life in one minute (like crashing your car due to speeding).

[CharlieP]

I hope this helps a bit:

You should better lose one minute in your life, than do something stupid and lose your whole life in one minute (like crashing your car due to speeding).

So... are you saying the surprise feature is Speed Cameras ???

:D

[DevilsTower]

So... are you saying the surprise feature is Speed Cameras ???

:D

lool! I certainly dont hope so:Looking_a:D

[JamesF1]

So... are you saying the surprise feature is Speed Cameras ???

:D
No, that'd be "better waste a minute in life, than lose your license in one minute" ;)

[auch_enne]

lol speeding in the pitlane now loses your s2 license!

[neRu]

Cant wait!

The "But who needs a minute in blackwood" really gets me excited!

[ajp71]

it would turn down the grip tyres produce too
so you may be faster on straights but more caution would be needed during cornering.

But you'll still have no problem getting a set of R2 upto temperature, they'll just need longer to get up to temperature. IRL cold weather produces faster laptimes.

[bberger]

Cant wait!

The "But who needs a minute in blackwood" really gets me excited!
I'd bet, the devs only wrote that quote to drive us crazzZZyyyyyYY! :P

[RacingSimFan]

While you intellectual types were waxing philosophical about the Blackwood Guru and all hidden meanings of his eloquent message, the answer to his riddle is really an F1 car!!!:thumb::smileypul:smileypul

[[RDP] GAV]

While you intellectual types were waxing philosophical about the Blackwood Guru and all hidden meanings of his eloquent message, the answer to his riddle is really an F1 car!!!:thumb::smileypul:smileypul

pfff i wish, way to obvious :scratchch

[GianniC]

GAV']pfff i wish, way to obvious :scratchch

Idd, that's waaay to obvious, and doesn't mean we get a F1 car !! Can be something totally different !

[MAGGOT]

Well... with a render of the BMW - Sauber F1 car now on LFS.net... I think that is a pretty good indication that we will get an F1 car. If not with this patch than maybe in a later one or with S3. Of course, I could be wrong...

[detail]

Well... with a render of the BMW - Sauber F1 car now on LFS.net... I think that is a pretty good indication that we will get an F1 car. If not with this patch than maybe in a later one or with S3. Of course, I could be wrong...
Such teasing would be too impolite and irresponsible, I think.

[Rob]

At the bottom of the screenie it says: "Live for Speed 2002 - 2006"

Very ominous... Is this the end?

Are they telling us that we will all have to play F1 sims to get out jollies from now on?

[the_angry_angel]

At the bottom of the screenie it says: "Live for Speed 2002 - 2006"
I think its more likely to be a copyright notice :p

[auch_enne]

All this teasing reminded me of the pre S2 shots, http://www.liveforspeed.net/page_images/screenshots/17_3_21.jpg.
I rember there being a big riot back then too :D People check every other screenshot for clue's etc. I think the dev's just have a cruel sence of revenge for all us complaining and moaning ;)

Big ups to the dev's for getting a bunch of sim geeks all worked up :thumb:

[illegal]

omg they're testing the new car! www.liveforspeed.net/page_images/screenshots/nmage56.jpg

[bobvanvliet]

Where the heck did you dig that pic out of?

Edit: Prolly just a pre-FO8 being tested.

[deggis]

The pic is dated 22.8.2004.

ps. oops, typo :D

[TaiFong]

The pis is dated 22.8.2004.

Wow, that is some old piss.

[ajp71]

From the screenshots section of the LFS website, MRT6 is also there.

[cwmax]

With the teaser pics of the fogged Blackwood and the BMW F1, I can imagine the Blackwood Forest Guru sitting back on his favorite stump listening to this...

http://www.cwmax.com/lfs/18000rpm-001.mp3


Turn it up just a tad :thumb:

[atledreier]

Which reminds me....

*plays the BRM V16.mp3*

...And turn it up.. a lot!

[tristancliffe]

Hell yeah, we should hear the cars from the other side of the track! I could hear Lotus F1 cars on the test track and thats at least 3 miles away as the crow flies.

[ajp71]

http://www.matrasport.dk/Gallery1/Sounds/index.html

[Shotglass]

Which reminds me....

*plays the BRM V16.mp3*

...And turn it up.. a lot!

stop talking about porn in here

[ajp71]

Hell yeah, we should hear the cars from the other side of the track! I could hear Lotus F1 cars on the test track and thats at least 3 miles away as the crow flies.

You won't believe how loud that BRM V16 is IRL. When your close to it it's not that much louder than any other competition engine, but from a distance it's just penetrates through the trees. The only other car that I think I've heard to compare to it is an Austin 7 Twin Cam special (same Shesley meeting) which revved to 10000 rpm on a pre-war engine! It sounded even more deafining, you'd never have guessed an Autin 7 could sound louder than a field of Thourghbred GP cars :D

[tristancliffe]

Trust me I do - I've had a Lancia D50 and a Volpini revving around my house before (and the surrounding countryside). The D50 isn't actually that loud, but it's perfect in tone. The Volipini (basically Fford of the 50's I think, but don't quote me on that) is so tremendously loud you wouldn't beleive. Much louder than a modern F1 car. MUCH louder. You don't need a rolling road to tell you it's knocking you just wait til your brain is compressed between two ear drums.

[ajp71]

Like one of these Formula Juniors? http://www.australianformulajunior.com/images/autumn2001/aut01manning.jpg

Yep Formula Juniors are loud but they are nothing compared to that Austin 7.

[tristancliffe]

I've yet to be woken up by one at 8am, so I'll take your word for it. But I don't recommend any of the above as an unexpected alarm clock 15 ft from your head (okay, through a wall, but it's loud trust me!)

[ajp71]

That can't be a pleasant alarm clock :D

[robt]

That can't be a pleasant alarm clock :D

Personally id love it!!

[(SaM)]

Personally id love it!!

For as long as it takes my friend. After 3 seconds you will hear nothing but a silence, just after one final *POP*.

[ajp71]

Depends on what is waking you up the BRM/Formula Junior type sound is a high revving enigne sound. Whereas that Austin 7 was just painful to hear. Probably a hillclimb special so the driver only has to hear it working for 30 seconds ;)