2010 RSC & TBOC Schedule

[dekojester]

The TBO Challenge and The Road Sport Cup will run in the same week, with the RSC race on the Thursday prior to the TBOC race.

TBO Challenge Schedule

Round 1: 23 January 2010 from SO4R / Sprint Race 13 laps / Feature Race 22 laps
Round 2: 6 February 2010 from BL1R / Sprint Race 16 laps / Feature Race 26 laps
Round 3: 20 February 2010 from WE1R / Sprint Race 10 laps / Feature Race 17 laps
Round 4: 6 March 2010 from KY2 / Sprint Race 10 laps / Feature Race 17 laps
Round 5: 3 April 2010 from FE2 / Sprint Race 17 laps / Feature Race 28 laps
Round 6: 17 April 2010 from AS7 / Sprint Race 10 laps / Feature Race 17 laps

Road Sport Cup Schedule

Round 1: 28 January 2010 from SO4R / Sprint Race 13 laps / Feature Race 27 laps
Round 2: 4 February 2010 from BL1R / Sprint Race 16 laps / Feature Race 32 laps
Round 3: 18 February 2010 from WE1R / Sprint Race 10 laps / Feature Race 21 laps
Round 4: 4 March 2010 from KY2 / Sprint Race 10 laps / Feature Race 21 laps
Round 5: 1 April 2010 from FE2 / Sprint Race 17 / Feature Race 35 laps
Round 6: 15 April 2010 from AS7 / Sprint Race 10 laps / Feature Race 21 laps


Timetable of Events

This timing of events applies to both the TBO Challenge AND the Road Sport Cup. All times are in GMT

19:00 - Qualifying (20 minutes)
19:20 - Break/Grid Stacking (10 minutes)
19:30 - Sprint Race (30 minutes approx)
20:00 - Break/Grid Stacking (10 minutes)
20:10 - Feature Race (60 minutes approx)

We would ask all driver to arrive on server no later than 18:45 so reserve drivers can be notified if a slot is avaliable. Anyone appearing later than this without giving prior notification may lose their slot.

Please let me know if any clashes appear in the schedule (I know about the R3 TBOC one, I'm working on fixing it atm.)

[JackDaMaster]

It says that both TBOC events will take up 30 mins and both RSC events will take up 1 hour.

This makes no sense.

Even to Wilko.

[TFalke55]

may I criticise the Timetable for Events?

[hyntty]

Feel free.

[TFalke55]

Timetable for events, all times UTC:

16:20 Road Sport Cup Qualifying (20 minutes)
16:50 TBO Challenge Qualifying (20 mintues)
17:30 TBO Challenge Sprint Race (Approximately 30 minutes per race)
18:10 RSC Sprint Race (Approximately 30 minutes per race)
18:50 TBO Challenge Feature Race (Approximately 1 hour per race)
20:00 RSC Feature Race (Approximately 1 hour per race)


I think it is quiet contraproductive to change the series after a session.
It just enlenghtens the whole event. If someone is only driving the TBOs he still has to wait until the Road Sports have finished. And waiting 30 minutes or so is hard on the edge. For the Road Sports it is I think even more the problem, as they have a break of 1 hour in between. This would heavily decrease the number of participants after Round one. I wouldn't be motivated to wait for over an hour between sprint and feature race.. it is not like in reallife where you can go to the garage and tweak on your set up a bit. Such stuff does take 3 klicks or so in LFS.
For those who compete in both it might be irritating between two cars every now and then.
It would be the total mayham for us to get everyone out of the server and into the server in time... It would be massively stressy.

[PMD9409]

In other words, too much work that adds unnecessary confusion/stress.

[JO53PHS]

I think perhaps if we're going to run them side by side it would be better to run them one after the other, with a 20 minute break in between.

Or something...

[Fuse5]

What's the break for, to scare the viewers away?

[PMD9409]

TBO Q, S, F
then
RSC Q, S, F

Rather simple really.

[aobrien]

Agreed with Phil on this one

[JO53PHS]

What's the break for, to scare the viewers away?

For cookies.

Although mainly to give people only doing the second one time to join. Because you don't want a whole load of excess people clogging up the server during the first event.

[P1lot]

This is quite a change to the RSC under the new guardians.
I agree with what Falke said regarding mixing the two series with gaps.

I'm not familiar with previous seasons of the TBOC, but the RSC was always run on a Thursday evening. I'm not so easily available on Saturdays, which is a pity as I've taken part in all 4 previous RSC seasons :(
(but at least RAC+FZ5 league racing returns)

[GreyBull [CHA]]

16:20 Road Sport Cup Qualifying (20 minutes)
16:50 TBO Challenge Qualifying (20 mintues)
17:30 TBO Challenge Sprint Race (Approximately 30 minutes per race)
18:10 RSC Sprint Race (Approximately 30 minutes per race)
18:50 TBO Challenge Feature Race (Approximately 1 hour per race)
20:00 RSC Feature Race (Approximately 1 hour per race)


Damn, how will I be able to pretend that I've a real life with that?:D

[March Hare]

Why not run both classes at the same time?

Seperate qualifying but bunch them all together for racing. The more mayhem on the track the better.

[J@tko]

Seperate qualifying but bunch them all together for racing. The more mayhem on the track the better.
The main problem with that is we can only have 32 cars on track at once :shrug:

[Drift King CZ]

+1 Yann :D.

Well, but if it is broadcasted, it will be ecstasy for those LFS broadcasts lovers :).

And I wanted to say the same as March. There will be only 15/16 spots in every class, but you could let sign up everyone and choose only the best by some elimination system.

[Wilko868]

+1 Yann :D.

Well, but if it is broadcasted, it will be ecstasy for those LFS broadcasts lovers :).

And I wanted to say the same as March. There will be only 15/16 spots in every class, but you could let sign up everyone and choose only the best by some elimination system.
The whole reason me and JP had the idea was because it'd be an EPIC evening of LFS racing for a broadcast, but it is rather racer unfriendly.

We rather failed in that respect :razz:

[boothy]

Stop trying to copy Felipe, racing comes before a broadcast :D

[Drift King CZ]

The whole reason me and JP had the idea was because it'd be an EPIC evening of LFS racing for a broadcast, but it is rather racer unfriendly.

We rather failed in that respect :razz:

Well, yes. It is only friendly for those who stay home at least from 16:00. I personally don't mind these breaks. The time between each qual and races gives you some extra time for a training, setup testing etc. or you can just relax while watching RSC race :).

EDIT: What if you make the both classes race side by side and let it happen something like a main ROAD class championship :D. We already have GTAL, IGTC, MoE for the cars on slicks...

And also.. I would suggest this change in the times schedule. Why isn't RSC's 1st race after TBOC's qual?

16:20 Road Sport Cup Qualifying (20 minutes)
16:50 TBO Challenge Qualifying (20 mintues)
17:30 RSC Sprint Race (Approximately 30 minutes per race)
18:10 TBO Challenge Sprint Race (Approximately 30 minutes per race)
18:50 RSC Feature Race (Approximately 1 hour per race)
20:00 TBO Challenge Feature Race (Approximately 1 hour per race)

[Bean0]

Road Sport Cup Schedule

Round 1: 21 January 2010 from SO4R / Sprint Race 13 laps / Feature Race 27 laps

...

Please let me know if any clashes appear in the schedule (I know about the R3 TBOC one, I'm working on fixing it atm.)

DoP again :tilt:

[Wilko868]

DoP again :tilt:
Oh for gods sake! Bliddy DoP! :razz:

I shall sort, don't you worry. The RSC is so much easier to reschedule, that's the thing.

[GreyBull [CHA]]

Please let me know if any clashes appear in the schedule (I know about the R3 TBOC one, I'm working on fixing it atm.)

Round 3 and 6 of the TBO Challenge clash with the round 5 and 7 of the LFS Endurance Series (http://lfsenduranceseries.forumpro.fr/portal.forum?pid=6&sid=bffb5d9be1264ef0cb76db94c22f9).

E : Same for Round 1 of the TBOC, clashing with the Round 4 of the LFSES

[TFalke55]

As RSC is now on Thursdays I become your co-admin... muhahaha *evil laughter* *evil slaughter*

[Wilko868]

As RSC is now on Thursdays I become your co-admin... muhahaha *evil laughter* *evil slaughter*
Good to have a helping hand :D

[pik_d]

Are the TBOC and RSC sprint races supposed to be the same number of laps? That doesn't seem right if it's supposed to be half an hour for both.

[dekojester]

Are the TBOC and RSC sprint races supposed to be the same number of laps? That doesn't seem right if it's supposed to be half an hour for both.

The half hour is an approximation of the race time. The distances are what is the same...50km. I did a quick look on LFSworld and some wrs, and foudn they were relatively close. But yeah the 30 minutes and 1 hour stuff is just an approximation.

d

[pik_d]

The half hour is an approximation of the race time. The distances are what is the same...50km. I did a quick look on LFSworld and some wrs, and foudn they were relatively close. But yeah the 30 minutes and 1 hour stuff is just an approximation.

d

Oh OK that makes more sense.

Timetable of Events

This timing of events applies to both the TBO Challenge AND the Road Sport Cup. All times are in GMT

19:00 - Qualifying (20 minutes)
19:20 - Break/Grid Stacking (10 minutes)
19:30 - Sprint Race (30 minutes approx)
19:00 - Break/Grid Stacking (10 minutes)
20:10 - Feature Race (60 minutes approx)
Do you tell us how to timewarp before or after we sign up?

[dekojester]

Do you tell us how to timewarp before or after we sign up?

That's a Wilko edit...ask him. :razz:

[Dennis93]

By looking at the schedule i would almost withdraw my sign-up.

But i won't.. But why are you guys asking for so much drama, FE2?! SO4R?!

Make it FE2R and SO4 then you have a 24% better schedule.:razz:

[Drift King CZ]

By looking at the schedule i would almost withdraw my sign-up.

But i won't.. But why are you guys asking for so much drama, FE2?! SO4R?!

Make it FE2R and SO4 then you have a 24% better schedule.:razz:

Interesting. The FE2 and SO4R is more acceptable to me than your combos. Everyone has a different "taste".

[Dennis93]

Interesting. The FE2 and SO4R is more acceptable to me than your combos. Everyone has a different "taste".

SO4R: So every time you enter the narrow entry of both tracks, you might have the entire field crashing? instead of it getting spread out by corners that are actually 'secure' to make a proper pass on? :really:

FE2: So again, its just one who has to flip through turn 1 or the chicane, its probably the most buggy corner we have on LFS, and therefore its not suitable for a multi-file turn.

BOTH: well if you want the race to be decided in turn 1, fine.

[Wilko868]

SO4R: So every time you enter the narrow entry of both tracks, you might have the entire field crashing? instead of it getting spread out by corners that are actually 'secure' to make a proper pass on? :really:

FE2: So again, its just one who has to flip through turn 1 or the chicane, its probably the most buggy corner we have on LFS, and therefore its not suitable for a multi-file turn.

BOTH: well if you want the race to be decided in turn 1, fine.
If people are sensible about it, both tracks will be totally fine. It's when people decide to go barging into a corner with no thought about the cars ahead that accidents happen.

They are brilliant tracks to race on if the drivers make them good tracks to race on.

[Wilko868]

Do you tell us how to timewarp before or after we sign up?

After. I only tell people the magic once they're commited. :razz:

Thanks for pointing my epic cock up out :)

[Dennis93]

If people are sensible about it, both tracks will be totally fine. It's when people decide to go barging into a corner with no thought about the cars ahead that accidents happen.

They are brilliant tracks to race on if the drivers make them good tracks to race on.

just for a case, not really asking you to change them over or anything but.
Multi-cars do have different Acceleration, and if your telling me an RB4 would back off from a FXO, big nono

Just my 2 cents

[GreyBull [CHA]]

;1347450']Round 3 and 6 of the TBO Challenge clash with the round 5 and 7 of the LFS Endurance Series (http://lfsenduranceseries.forumpro.fr/portal.forum?pid=6&sid=bffb5d9be1264ef0cb76db94c22f9).

E : Same for Round 1 of the TBOC, clashing with the Round 4 of the LFSES

Any chance to have an official statement on this? Are you considering moving these dates?

[Wilko868]

;1349311']Any chance to have an official statement on this? Are you considering moving these dates?
I am still considering whether to change dates on the LFSES. If you could supply me with a driver list for that series, Yann, it would greatly speed up the process as all the forums are in French.

[GreyBull [CHA]]

I am still considering whether to change dates on the LFSES. If you could supply me with a driver list for that series, Yann, it would greatly speed up the process as all the forums are in French.

There you go :

Pilotes inscrits (109) :
#101 / GT500 / FZR / Tittan / NGT
#102 / GT500 / FXR / D.Delasalle / E-Team
#103 / GT500 / FZR / Jeje31 / CD
#104 / GT500 / FXR / Shumeric / PLFS
#105 / GT500 / FZR / Woins3 / CD
#106 / GT500 / XRR / F.Bankhauser / E-Team
#107 / GT500 / FZR / Steef / TBF
#108 / GT500 / FZR / Squal / CD
#109 / GT500 / XRR / N.Vallée / E-Team
#110 / GT500 / FXR / Loconstant / PLFS
#111 / GT500 / FXR / Nox / Royale-Team
#112 / GT500 / FXR / System / FSR
#113 / GT500 / FXR / L.Lehenaff / E-Team
#114 / GT500 / FXR / JPRC / TBF
#115 / GT500 / XRR / Tristus
#116 / GT500 / FXR / Micmaris / R2R
#117 / GT500 / FXR / Macduff / R2R
#118 / GT500 / FXR / JEJE / FSR
#119 / GT500 / FZR / Briquedejus / E-Team
#120 / GT500 / FXR / Jeannot / PLFS
#121 / GT500 / FXR / Stff / TLP
#122 / GT500 / TBA / A3rox / R4R
#123 / GT500 / TBA / Matty / R4R
#124 / GT500 / FXR / Michele0676 / PLZ
#125 / GT500 / FZR / Malcomax / PLZ
#126 / GT500 / FXR / R.Thomas / E-Team
#127 / GT500 / FXR / Ti Trappeur / FRH
#128 / GT500 / TBA / Michaelvdm / R2R
#129 / GT500 / FXR / kawa12r / PLZ
#130 / GT500 / FXR / Ricky / NR™
#131 / GT500 / FXR / Y.Laprevotte / Tiger Express Motorsports
#132 / GT500 / FXR / L.Matonis / Tiger Express Motorsports
#133 / GT500 / FXR / T.Madl / Tiger Express Motorsports
#134 / GT500 / FXR / D.Buck / Tiger Express Motorsports
#135 / GT500 / TBA / T.Østgaard / Tiger Express Motorsports
#136 / GT500 / XRR / J.Grégoire / E-Team
#137 / GT500 / XRR / Worm-chris
#138 / GT500 / FXR / E. Kasperiunas / Tiger Express Motorsports
#139 / GT500 / FZR / crazyskypimp / Ocius Racing
#140 / GT500 / FZR / shadowcheese / Ocius Racing
#141 / GT500 / FZR / D N B / Ready2Roll
#142 / GT500 / FZR / Junkan / Sonicrealsm
#143 / GT500 / FXR / The_project / FSR
#144 / GT500 / FXR / vava1070 / Pink GoDzira
#145 / GT500 / FXR / I love you drift / Pink GoDzira
#146 / GT500 / FXR / Nixiz / NR
#147 / GT500 / FXR / K.Raudsepp / Tiger Express Motorsports
#148 / GT500 / XRR / racer hero / CoRe Racing
#149 / GT500 / XRR / D. Tsubenko / spdo
#150 / GT500 / XRR / Arrowkart4 / nfinity esport
#151 / GT500 / FXR / Ace / MT
#152 / GT500 / FZR / Aurel / BK
#153 / GT500 / FXR / N. Puntola / Tiger Express Motorsport
#154 / GT500 / FXR / J.Baskys / Tiger Express Motorsport
#155 / GT500 / FZR / exspeed
#156 / GT500 / XRR / R. Kööts / My3id
#157 / GT500 / XRR / R. de Jong / My3id
#158 / GT500 / XRR / J. Basford / My3id
#159 / GT500 / XRR / K. Kliaudaitis / My3id
#201 / GT350 / FZR / J.Pinheiro / E-Team
#202 / GT350 / XRR / Juan Pablo Rados / E-Team
#203 / GT350 / FZR / Pierre / E-Team
#204 / GT350 / FXR / Cayenne / TBF
#205 / GT350 / XRR / Dim' / E-Team
#206 / GT350 / XRR / K.O'Keefe / Core Racing
#207 / GT350 / XRR / Johanov
#208 / GT350 / FZR / M.Trollé / E-Team
#209 / GT350 / FXR / Carrera GT / Dirus Racing
#210 / GT350 / FXR / msb / Dirus Racing
#211 / GT350 / FZR / Bruno / Inferno
#212 / GT350 / FXR / Shini / PLFS
#213 / GT350 / FXR / Satanas / PLFS
#214 / GT350 / FXR / Chrisprol / PLFS
#215 / GT350 / FZR / Liberto / TBF
#216 / GT350 / FXR / Oliv76 / 2F2F
#217 / GT350 / XRR / BIzO / E-Team
#218 / GT350 / XRR / Beniwiwi
#219 / GT350 / FXR / Publicenemy / Dirus Racing
#220 / GT350 / FXR / Layer'S / FSR
#221 / GT350 / FXR / Chris / Tech3R
#222 / GT350 / FXR / Francky / RT
#223 / GT350 / FXR / Masai / R2R
#224 / GT350 / TBA / Framaris / R2R
#225 / GT350 / FZR / Blak
#226 / GT350 / FXR / Naroto / FSR
#227 / GT350 / FXR / Tibouchon / PLFS
#228 / GT350 / FXR / LeManchot / FRH
#229 / GT350 / FXR / barbakk
#230 / GT350 / XRR / Gotcha / 2F2F
#231 / GT350 / FXR / Mario Dallacurva / PLZ
#232 / GT350 / FXR / Bossforce / PLZ
#233 / GT350 / FXR / Alexio_82 / PLZ
#234 / GT350 / FXR / owermax / PLZ
#235 / GT350 / FXR / L'invisible
#236 / GT350 / FXR / Alex / FSR
#237 / GT350 / FXR / Obe
#238 / GT350 / FXR / Ludohc / Tech3R
#239 / GT350 / FZR / Ivan Perez / Grip
#240 / GT350 / XRR / Onizuka / Tech3R
#241 / GT350 / FXR / Razgriz_91 / PLZ
#242 / GT350 / FXR / imamura72 / PLZ
#243 / GT350 / FXR / MonkeyDimi / PLZ
#244 / GT350 / FZR / Burruchaga / R2R
#245 / GT350 / XRR / REDI / R2R
#246 / GT350 / XRR / S. Williams
#247 / GT350 / FXR / trinita G102 / NR
#248 / GT350 / XRR / spikee / Redline
#249 / GT350 / XRR / Gasper / Redline
#250 / GT350 / FXR / PtitBlue / NR™

[boothy]

Well LFSES R5 clashes with DoP 24hr so that might change, but you kinda run out of free Saturdays to hold it on - February is TBOC R2, MoE R5, DoP 24hr, GTAL R4 and then March is TBOC R4, MoE finale, LFSES R5, GTAL R5. And assuming IGTC returns, given it runs on Saturdays some of those events will have to make way! :schwitz:

[Wilko868]

I'm not going to change the schedule to fit in with the LFSES, as there are something like 3 or 4 people out of more than 64 people racing in it. It's an unneeded hassle, and not worth the work really. Rearranging of the DoP clashing round will be difficult, but I'll just have to try and slot it in.

[Bean0]

Oh for gods sake! Bliddy DoP! :razz:

I shall sort, don't you worry. The RSC is so much easier to reschedule, that's the thing.

Any news regarding this mate ?

[Rudy van Buren]

please dont reschuddle it... everybody singned up with a oke to this date's dont mess that up now by 1 race who clinces with rsc...

[Drift King CZ]

please dont reschuddle it... everybody singned up with a oke to this date's dont mess that up now by 1 race who clinces with rsc...

+1
We should have full grids, so what's the problem. Don't change it now so soon before 1st race.
EDIT: Ok, RSC maybe don't have that many people signed up, but still... too late to change now IMO.

[Bean0]

The fact that the DoP starts at 11pm GMT

Eh?

http://www.bc-racing.de/BurnoutCrew/FTP/DoP/DoP2010_FE3R_klein.png

[Wilko868]

Eh?

http://www.bc-racing.de/BurnoutCrew/FTP/DoP/DoP2010_FE3R_klein.png
:doh:

Jackson sent me an IM saying "Look at the stupid start time, its like 11pm" starting on the same date and I assumed it was the DoP. On closer examination, I fail.

OK the RSC Schedule isn't confirmed any more. :doh: I'll consult the rest of the team on making any of these changes and how they should be done this evening.

Sorry.

[Wilko868]

R1 for both series is now confirmed. Please check the OP and also this (http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?p=1356731#post1356731) post for extra info.

[GFresh]

Good news :thumb:

[GreyBull [CHA]]

For the record, the 4th round of the RSC clashes with the test round of the IGTC, and the 4th and 5th rounds of the TBOC clash with the 1st and 2nd round of the IGTC.

[Wilko868]

;1384205']For the record, the 4th round of the RSC clashes with the test round of the IGTC, and the 4th and 5th rounds of the TBOC clash with the 1st and 2nd round of the IGTC.
IGTC was scheduled after us, tough titties.

[dekojester]

;1384205']For the record, the 4th round of the RSC clashes with the test round of the IGTC, and the 4th and 5th rounds of the TBOC clash with the 1st and 2nd round of the IGTC.

There was no real way to schedule IGTC around those and not conflict with anything else. I worked with Benji on the schedule, and I decided that conflicting with TBOC was sufficinetly acceptable....not perfect, but acceptable enough to get IGTC sorted. If you don't like it, then don't particularly blame IGTC, blame me for deciding that people could in a way still manage enough to do both, and thinking that many in TBOC aren't exactly in IGTC.

[J@tko]

Or you could manage your stints around the TBOC race? :smileypul

[dekojester]

Or you could manage your stints around the TBOC race? :smileypul

ding ding

[GreyBull [CHA]]

Or you could manage your stints around the TBOC race? :smileypul

Yea, I guess it'll end up like that:):thumbsup:

[Koa128]

It would be really though to run around the servers with both races taking place at the same time, managing the IGTC stint is the only real solution, let's hope TBOC keeps running right on time without any delays between series :D

[Dennis93]

Hmm,

TEST igtc race < TBO Championship race. :nod:

[boothy]

That would be true if TBOC was on a Thursday. But it takes place at the exact same time as IGTC R1.

[prOmo_LTU]

Yea now TBOC clashes with IGTC r2

[GreyBull [CHA]]

Yea now TBOC clashes with IGTC r2

There was no real way to schedule IGTC around those and not conflict with anything else. I worked with Benji on the schedule, and I decided that conflicting with TBOC was sufficinetly acceptable....not perfect, but acceptable enough to get IGTC sorted. If you don't like it, then don't particularly blame IGTC, blame me for deciding that people could in a way still manage enough to do both, and thinking that many in TBOC aren't exactly in IGTC.

.

[CSF]

Yea now TBOC clashes with IGTC r2

What would you have be done about this 2 days before the race? :rolleyes:

[Dennis93]

Password today?

[scotty2888]

Password today?


Should be. :really:

[JO53PHS]

Deko only just remembered to tell me that he forgot.. password coming in a few moments..