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Dom Duhan

14th November 2009, 15:23

Hey all

I just wanted to clear up a name issue and hope that I can clarify something. I'm part of a sim racing team called Team Redline www.teamredline.co.uk (http://www.teamredline.co.uk), we drive many sims and are not really driving LFS, if at all. We have been around since May 2000 and are outside of LFS one of the most well known teams.

We have had people asking about servers from another TeamRedline or Redline Racing, we are nothing to do with these guys and have no association with them whatsoever.

Thanks!:)

jasonmatthews

14th November 2009, 15:25

That one? http://www.team-redline.co.uk/forum/

J@tko

14th November 2009, 15:29

That one? http://www.team-redline.co.uk/forum/
Theirs doesn't have a dash in the middle ;)

Dom Duhan

14th November 2009, 15:41

Yes it seems so, I'm not sure why they have chosen such a similar domain name.

Anyway, as I said, we have nothing to do with them and hope you can make the distinction.

5haz

14th November 2009, 15:43

So you were the guys behind the N2003 GTP Mod?

I always wondered of there was some kind of link or not. :p

Dom Duhan

14th November 2009, 15:46

Yes we did that too:)

Postman Pat

14th November 2009, 15:50

Bunch of amateurs. :razz:

"..many sims"? I thought you were basically all iRacing now?

Bonus question:

So, in not more than 3,000 words, what's wrong with LFS?:) Or, at least, would you say that over the limit, LFS is too easy/grippy, Iracing is in the middle, and ISI is near impossible i.e. countersteering doesn't work properly?
go on..go on..tell us what you think.

Dom Duhan

14th November 2009, 15:58

Hehe, well mostly iRacing, maybe some GTR2:P

I cant speak for all the guys, but parts of LFS are incredible and its packed with features, but I'm not a fan of the "on-track feeling" (feels more like I have to drive by rote rather than feel) and I would love to see a new graphics engine :) The grip levels seem in the right place :P though I drove mainly the BF1.

I know there are a few physics quirks, but I think most sims have them.

Postman Pat

14th November 2009, 16:02

Interesting. Thanks.

5haz

14th November 2009, 16:07

but I'm not a fan of the "on-track feeling" (feels more like I have to drive by rote rather than feel)

I know there are a few physics quirks, but I think most sims have them.

The new physics that are in development should help sort that. :thumbsup:

If only I was rich enough for iRacing. :shrug:

Wilko868

14th November 2009, 20:41

The new physics that are in development should help sort that. :thumbsup:

If only I was rich enough for iRacing. :shrug:
You were rich enough for Junior Ginetta! (I'm not letting that one go :razz:)

5haz

14th November 2009, 20:53

You were rich enough for Junior Ginetta! (I'm not letting that one go :razz:)

Thing is I wasn't, hence why I'm not in it now. :p

Becky Rose

15th November 2009, 09:16

Thing is I wasn't, hence why I'm not in it now. :p
I think that sums up most peoples experience of real racing right there. :nod:

I've known of the two distinct Redline teams for some time, I always wondered why the LFS team picked the name they did but as the original Redline have never really been part of LFS it didn't really matter - that is of course, except that the LFS team run servers that disgruntled drivers then go and seek out the forums for to bitch and whine like race drivers do when they need to blame their bad driving on somebody else. :x

Shotglass

15th November 2009, 09:26

I always wondered why the LFS team picked the name they did

presumably because it isnt a particularly creative name
which tells you all you need to know about the team really

Vykos69

15th November 2009, 11:50

ha, the dom here because his team is mistaken :D funny story :D I just can add, that the team redline guys do a great job, especially when it comes to providing setups etc.

SkyNet

15th November 2009, 19:04

DoC_uk

15th November 2009, 19:06

bunder9999

15th November 2009, 19:13

who was here first, i smell a name change coming soon... :shrug:

PMD9409

15th November 2009, 19:27

Just to clarify .. We are Redline Racing

Not Team redline , that would be our web address . Like a lot of web address's all over the net this was somewhat of a compromise ..

Im guessing that Team Redline are soon to open LFS servers ? Or maybe puting together a team for a major tournament ?

Just that if not ... post seems a little pointless :shrug:

Probably because someone messaged on their site about y'alls servers? So they are trying to point out the fact that there are two different teams with a similar name. Not pointless at all.

who was here first, i smell a name change coming soon... :shrug:

Two different names, and I'm positive neither would want to change their name.

Dom Duhan

15th November 2009, 21:40

Just to clarify .. We are Redline Racing

Not Team redline , that would be our web address . Like a lot of web address's all over the net this was somewhat of a compromise ..

Im guessing that Team Redline are soon to open LFS servers ? Or maybe puting together a team for a major tournament ?

Just that if not ... post seems a little pointless :shrug:

There has been some confusion (namely with potential sponsors and current who are asking questions), seeing as we are both under the sim-racing umbrella it has come to our attention.

Bumpdrafter

15th November 2009, 23:57

There has been some confusion (namely with potential sponsors and current who are asking questions), seeing as we are both under the sim-racing umbrella it has come to our attention.

Hello mr.dom a few months ago,= i was driving on your lfs server and as the green lights came on the telephone rang and i had to answer it beacuse i was waitng for a improtant businses call so i just left the car stopped tehere one the pole postiion and everyone wreceked and i got baned could u pleeze unban me i didnt meant o wreckt anyone i just had to answer a call it doesnt happen very often. my nickname is tburnout. kthxbai.

Becky Rose

16th November 2009, 06:05

pmsl /facepalm

pearcy_2k7

16th November 2009, 06:08

Thats just... I have no words... Wheres that iron picture when you need it?

[DUcK]

16th November 2009, 06:55

best post ive seen in a while, well done bumpdrafter. hm hm hm

obsolum

16th November 2009, 07:04

The new physics that are in development should help sort that. :thumbsup:
You don't know that. I've seen plenty of people here make such statements but the fact of the matter is no one has even the faintest idea how drastically the physics update will change LFS. I'm sure it will improve cars' behaviours but as far as feel is concerned - which is what the OP was talking about - I very much doubt much - if anything - will change. Ie. it will probably still feel bland.

SamH

16th November 2009, 17:47

What a nonsense post, obsolum. You start out by saying that nobody can presume anything positive about the new physics, and then you make your own unqualified negative presumptions about them. Shameful and unnecessary.

In fact the new physics are working out so well that even Scawen, who usually plays expectations WAY down, felt compelled and enthusiastic enough to share with us the beta testers' enthusiasm for the new physics. So actually we DO have positive feedback, even before they've arrived, and they run in direct conflict with your negativity.

Given the information we DO have, I'd rather go with the positive vibe than suffer your baseless negativity if it's all the same.

jaykay3000

16th November 2009, 18:18

To be honest i thought it was pretty obvious that these two are different as partly the car skins pictured on each site are different and the names different and the team members different.

I always used to like the redline racing servers when they were populated.

Nice helmet dom :nod:

obsolum

17th November 2009, 06:19

What a nonsense post, obsolum. You start out by saying that nobody can presume anything positive about the new physics, and then you make your own unqualified negative presumptions about them. Shameful and unnecessary.
You're right and I was well aware of that :) I actually deleted those last 2 sentences and put them back a couple of times, but in the end decided to keep them. I thought I might as well make my own presumptions, unqualified as they may be.

In fact the new physics are working out so well that even Scawen, who usually plays expectations WAY down, felt compelled and enthusiastic enough to share with us the beta testers' enthusiasm for the new physics. So actually we DO have positive feedback, even before they've arrived, and they run in direct conflict with your negativity.

Given the information we DO have, I'd rather go with the positive vibe than suffer your baseless negativity if it's all the same.

We'll see. It's no secret that LFS' way of handling FFB takes away the greater part of FFB effects, leaving you with a bland feel compared to other sims. Like I said, I am sure the cars' behaviour will improve but I am not so sure the feeling will, too, as I think that isn't so much a matter of physics as it is a matter of... well... code, I guess, whatever it is that creates and sends FFB signals?

Becky Rose

17th November 2009, 07:17

We'll see. It's no secret that LFS' way of handling FFB takes away the greater part of FFB effects, leaving you with a bland feel compared to other sims. Like I said, I am sure the cars' behaviour will improve but I am not so sure the feeling will, too, as I think that isn't so much a matter of physics as it is a matter of... well... code, I guess, whatever it is that creates and sends FFB signals?
That would be the physics...

LFS connects the force feedback directly to the steering arm and does not add any canned effects.

It could actually use some rattle over kerbs and with flatspots, but aside from that what you are feeling is the physics without any canned effects masking the errors in the engine underneath.

Whether this is a better approach or not is down to individual taste.