Test Patch Z19 (online compatible)

[Scawen]

WARNING : THIS IS A TEST

WARNING : AN ISSUE HAS BEEN REPORTED - ON SOME VERSIONS OF WINDOWS THE INTERFACE CAN BE OFFSET WHEN YOU FIRST START IN FULL SCREEN. APPARENTLY IT IS FIXED IF YOU THEN GO TO A WINDOW AND BACK TO FULL SCREEN (SHIFT+F4)

NOTE : THIS DOES NOT CONTAIN NEW PHYSICS / VW SCIROCCO / ROCKINGHAM

Hello Racers, here is a new Test Patch : Z19.

It is online compatible with version Z.
You can view hotlap replays made in version Z.

ABS brakes have been added to 5 cars (as a setup option) so for now you cannot upload hotlaps made in Z19.

Please keep a backup of your LFS.exe from version Z so you can go back to Z if there are any problems.

Changes in TEST PATCH Z19 :

Updates :

Road car dashboards updated to use dashboard light symbols
Shift lights removed from all road cars other than RaceAbout
OutGauge : Dashboard lights reported in new OutGaugePack fields
Included "Latino" translation : South American / Mexican Spanish
New command : /view reload - reload a custom view without saving
New command : /view save - save any changes made to a custom view
Mouse steer/look/axes now relative to interface (not entire screen)
Window size and position now restored after full screen or exit LFS
Cleaned up code : window create / resize / switch to full screen

Fixes :

FIX : Car shake when following in SHIFT+U mode with above 100 fps
FIX : Roll in SHIFT+U mode was not reported in InSim IS_CPP packet
FIX : Car shake when using left mouse in SHIFT+U to adjust position
FIX : Full width external views option was not saved in config file
FIX : Dedicated host did not save skins used in MPR (for downloads)
FIX : SoftTH users could not click side screen interface buttons
FIX : Overhead text (driver names) appeared too late in mirrors
FIX : Zoom keys could change screen angle setting (now limited)
FIX : LX4 number plate no longer intersects with spare tyre

Changes from Z to Z18 :

Improved multiple monitor and curved screen support :

The number of left and right screens can be manually entered in the
View Options screen and you can set the angle between monitors.

If you specify more than one screen, multiple views are rendered in
different directions. This allows much wider fields of view.

2 screens - maximum FOV 180 degrees
3 screens - maximum FOV 270 degrees
4 or more screens - maximum FOV 360 degrees

The FOV slider does not set the total field of view. Instead, you
set the FOV of the main screen. LFS then calculates each screen's
field of view and offset according to your settings.

Use "Screen angle" setting to specify the angle between monitors.

Use "View offset" to move the steering wheel off centre.

As before, there are two separate sets of settings. Wide mode
becomes active when the screen width is 3 or more times the height.
Normal mode and wide mode have all the same settings, but normal
mode defaults to 1 screen, while wide mode defaults to 3 screens.

To reproduce the old single projection 3 three screen mode, either
- set the number of left and right screens to zero, or
- set left and right screens to 1 and set "Screen angle" to zero.

A curved screen can be supported by setting the number of left and
right screens to the maximum of 5 each. This 11 screen setup is
an approximate cylindrical projection, ideal for curved screens.

Various other setups can now be properly supported, for example :

- A 2 screen setup with side screen at 30 degrees and offset wheel
- A 5 screen setup with each screen at 45 degrees - total FOV 225
- A 3 projector setup with each screen at 90 degrees - total FOV 270

Note :

External views (TV, helicopter and SHIFT+U mode) are always drawn as
a single render and usually confined to the 2D interface area.

Related settings :

Option to force external views to use full width
Bezel compensation - to allow for the gap between monitors
Screen widths - for centre and side screens with a different width

Other changes to view system :

Two button look (left + right) is now double the one button look and
this allows up to 180 degrees look (like old versions of LFS).

Rear look (instant 180 degree view from centre of car) is now the
same on all cars (no longer shows a virtual mirror) but is disallowed
if the host activates forced cockpit view.

Cockpit view Z-buffering improved so you should not usually see
missing parts of your seat or the car body when looking around.

Graphics :

Improved wheel drawing system including rotating brake discs
Formula BMW wheels updated to use the new wheel drawing system
Headlights and tail lights can now be switched on by pressing '3'
Improved shadows - sharper and ambient shadow effect now included
Slight increase in wheels LOD reduction distance (increases detail)
Increased maximum value of Mirror LOD user setting (default now 0.3)
Virtual dash uses symbols (soon to be implemented on real dashboards)
FIX : Physics objects & smoke can now be seen through your windscreen
FIX : Turn signals were switched off if car received any damage
FIX : Lightmap (lighting on cars) was positioned inaccurately

Interface :

Click car arrow on small map to view that car
Blue and yellow flags removed from cruise mode
Connections list is now shown in alphabetical order
New key : SHIFT+Z to show the mouse cursor when it would be hidden
Names in race position list can now be clicked to view that player
V / TAB / P / HOME / F1 / F2 / F3 / F / SHIFT+M / N work in options
Direction to turn and speed limit is shown when leaving pit garage
New text command /showmouse [yes/no] does the same as SHIFT+Z
Improved order of "sort by version number" in List of Hosts
New message from host replaces "Did not receive guest info"
Progress indicator for skin downloads while joining a host
Unlock screen : clear button to remove name and password
FIX : F12 tyre display for remote car could go off screen
FIX : Central message sub-text disappeared in escape menu
FIX : Colour extended into skin download progress indicator

Autocross :

New key : SHIFT+O to enter options from SHIFT+U mode
FIX : Autocross editor buttons were wrongly scaled with the interface
FIX : Selected object in editor vanished behind anything transparent
FIX : Could cross finish line without passing all route checkers
FIX : Autocross route checkers only worked for one lap

Training :

Included Slovenian translation of training lessons
FIX : Short cuts were possible in slalom course training

Misc :

Implemented ABS brakes in XRG / RB4 / FXO / XRT / FZ5
Misc option "Shadow generation" to select optimal shadow draw
InSim : Traction Control and ABS are now reported in IS_NPL packet
InSim : New packets to start / search replays and take screenshots

Fixes :

FIX : Crash in game setup screen after removing a player
FIX : MPR buffer overflow vulnerability (reported by muhaa - thanks)
FIX : Skin names containing a '.' could not be loaded in LFS
FIX : MRT5 gear indicator and fuel gauge are now visible
FIX : LFS could crash when many cars were in view (e.g. during MPR)
FIX : Vista 64 power save switched off monitor in full screen mode
FIX : No response in List of Hosts after failing to join a host
FIX : Follower view angle setting changed when LFS restarted
FIX : Closing X connects (message in List of Hosts screen)
FIX : Mouse steering was stuck on full lock after minimising window
FIX : Player name was wrong in entry screen on entry or after replay
FIX : Added checks to prevent guests joining with no user name or ID
FIX : OOS starting race after joining autocross host in entry screen

DOWNLOADS :

PATCH Z to Z19 (Version Z must already be installed) :
www.liveforspeed.net/file_lfs.php?name=LFS_PATCH_Z_TO_Z19.exe (3.1 MB)

DEDICATED HOST Z19 (non-graphical version for hosting only) :
www.liveforspeed.net/file_lfs.php?name=LFS_S2_DEDI_Z19.zip (1.6 MB)

[aroX123]

Thanks :thumbsup:

And you did it in time too, you said friday at latest. You really work hard for other people to enjoy the game. Proud <3

[ninja469]

Thx Scawen, good work m8:thumb:

[boyracer1981]

i get the following message on xfg
Can't open:seatbelt

[Taavi(EST)]

Will test the Shift U in a moment.

Edit, Don't know if it's a bug or my problem, but UI is shifted. Can't click on anything directly, have to click down of the button.

[boothy]

i get the following message on xfg
Can't open:seatbelt

Same.

Also, related to the "3" key for putting the lights on, can the "G" key be made so that it switches the front lights off if they are already on? So that you can still flash the headlights when you want to but keep them on all the rest of the time? Thanks :)

[aroX123]

i get the following message on xfg
Can't open:seatbelt
same.

I dont know with you guys but since z16 i've got this wierd thing when i start up or in and out via windows button.
When that happend my screen out out of place, so some part are outside the screen. Havent had this before. Its so annoying.

[iFastLT]

i get the following message on xfg
Can't open:seatbelt
same. also when I start LFS in fullscreen mode I'm able to resize the window, actually it doesn't change sice it just limits mouse movements to imaginatery window limits, when I go to window mode it's resized and when I go bak to fullscreen I'm not able to resize anymore

[Scawen]

i get the following message on xfg
Can't open:seatbeltThanks. I've fixed it in the download now.

You can either get the Z19 patch again, or I have attached the seatbelt file to this post - it needs to go in the data\dds folder.

[boyracer1981]

Thanks. I've fixed it in the download now.

You can either get the Z19 patch again, or I have attached the seatbelt file to this post - it needs to go in the data\dds folder.

thanks i feel safe again now:)

[Scawen]

Edit, Don't know if it's a bug or my problem, but UI is shifted. Can't click on anything directly, have to click down of the button.Probably is a bug, but I have not seen that.

Please can we have more info?

- Is this after starting in full screen, or starting in a window?
- And does it happen if, after starting, you then go to full screen or a window?
- Which operating system are you using, in case that makes a difference?

[majod]

i have a strange problem with mouse position in lfs window...
for example in offline game, after track select, in bottom right when i click to change weather - it changes lap count!! clicking on lap count doesnt work..
when i want to click on "garage" - i have to click a few pixels under the button....
pointing the cursor to the bottom of screen, cursor changes to "resize cursor"

switching to window mode solves the problem (shift f4)

using windows 7 + ati

[Heiko1]

Hey Scawen,

do you can reproduce the bug which i posted on Z18?

The Master Server one <--:thumb:

Regards Heiko1

[Scawen]

same. also when I start LFS in fullscreen mode I'm able to resize the window, actually it doesn't change sice it just limits mouse movements to imaginatery window limits, when I go to window mode it's resized and when I go bak to fullscreen I'm not able to resize anymoreThanks. I can't reproduce it though... which OS are you using?

Is the problem corrected if, after starting with this bug, you then go to a window and back to full screen?

[Thorvertonian]

After going windowed and the back to full screen (I unlocked LFS), the UI shifted back into place....

[iFastLT]

Thanks. I can't reproduce it though... which OS are you using?

Is the problem corrected if, after starting with this bug, you then go to a window and back to full screen?
W7 x64, yes, you can solve it by going to windowed and back to fullscreen

[Montana]

Same here with vista 64

[Scawen]

Hey Scawen,

do you can reproduce the bug which i posted on Z18?

The Master Server one <--:thumb:

Regards Heiko1No, I didn't fix that one, because I could not reproduce it. Also the one where if you start 1000 instances of LFS, there can be a crash - I didn't fix that either. I did list all the changes in the fist post of this thead.

[batal]

Probably is a bug, but I have not seen that.

Please can we have more info?

- Is this after starting in full screen, or starting in a window?
- And does it happen if, after starting, you then go to full screen or a window?
- Which operating system are you using, in case that makes a difference?

Can't reproduce that, but had the same problem. Fixed after LFS restart.

W7 x86

[majod]

lol running lfs in window mode and then press shift+s - kills whole windows...everyting on screen start to flicker, windows, taskbar,...

[Heiko1]

No, I didn't fix that one, because I could not reproduce it. Also the one where if you start 1000 instances of LFS, there can be a crash - I didn't fix that either. I did list all the changes in the fist post of this thead.

The Master Server fail i can reproduce easy :(

ill make a Picture story for it.

It also seems to work on Z19.:shrug:

[IlGuercio]

lol running lfs in window mode and then press shift+s - kills whole windows...everyting on screen start to flicker, windows, taskbar,...

I tried that now and nothing bad happened.

[Scawen]

lol running lfs in window mode and then press shift+s - kills whole windows...everyting on screen start to flicker, windows, taskbar,...Please can you give some more info?

Were you in game at the time, or typing a message?

Do you mean, SHIFT+S like, spectate?

Which version of Windows were you using?

[aroX123]

Everyone seem to a a window problem. Start up your game, take your mouse to the edges most as possible, then drag it to another place, its acts like it is in a wïndow, thats why people cannot click buttons

[Taavi(EST)]

Tested the UI further. Starting in full screen, every button is not aligned. Windowing fixes it. Going back full screen, and everything is back to normal again. Starting windowed, everything OK. Going Full screen from windowed left my screen flickering and i had to restart.

Oh, and I'm using Windows 7 RC7100.

[Dmt]

Having also annoying bug.. cant click buttons normally, have to click many times in different places for one button so it could work..

[e.M]

i have a strange problem with mouse position in lfs window...
for example in offline game, after track select, in bottom right when i click to change weather - it changes lap count!! clicking on lap count doesnt work..
when i want to click on "garage" - i have to click a few pixels under the button....
pointing the cursor to the bottom of screen, cursor changes to "resize cursor"

switching to window mode solves the problem (shift f4)

using windows 7 + ati
have the same problem and i also then in full screen somehow managed to drag the lfs window

[aroX123]

Having also annoying bug.. cant click buttons normally, have to click many times in different places for one button so it could work..
yep, because of the window.

[majod]

but for me yes, since patch Z19, after i switched to window mode and then closed lfs...
everytime i run it it starts in window mode, but when i want to switch back to full screen, only black screen and then all applications flicker...including cursor, start button (or whatever its called in 7)

[zeromussov]

Each time when starting LFS (just in full screen) you have the possibility to resize the screen. (if your going to the edges with your mouse) If you click it minimizes LFS to desktop...

After switching to the window mode (Shift+F4) and back again it's ok an back to normal. But with starting LFS again the same thing happens...

-edit: more people with same problem. (using final W7 32bit here)

-edit 2: sometimes I'm not able to click the menu buttons, or selecting a setup. Not sure when this happends... Also the alligment of the buttons seems a few mm off.(about 1cm) For example: when I try to select a setup, it selects the one above it.

[NotAnIllusion]

LFS doesn't seem to remember windowed resolutions correctly. It's always fixed to the same size regardless of resolution selected. Applies to all resolutions, shift-f4 does not fix the issue. Persist through restart of LFS, running all test patches from same folder.
OS: Vista32 HP.

[majod]

Please can you give some more info?

Were you in game at the time, or typing a message?

Do you mean, SHIFT+S like, spectate?

Which version of Windows were you using?

everything i did since Z19:

run LFS, noticed the strange GUI bug, presse shift+S (to window mode), GUI was OK.
closed LFS, run LFS again in window mode...then pressed shift+S to fullscreen mode - bang...black screen, lfs minimizes and everyting is wrong.

windows 7 32bit + ati 4870

it happens alwys, either in menu or during gameplay, only in window mode lfs is running OK

[Heiko1]

Heres the Picture Story for the Master Server Connection problem.

[IlGuercio]

Im not experiencing the flickering on shift+s neither the change of the button's position.
I upgraded from z18 and im running Vista 64 Business.

[fraghetti]

wow, the cars are starting to look like real cars from inside now :thumbsup:

[Jet_ CZE]

shifted gui here too
win 7 x64

[Simpson]

XP 32 bit, Z19
While fullscreen going alt+tab and return to LFS i cant click buttons:
Here is screen with red dot where i had to click to get what i wanted.
http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/4167/screendz.png

Problem doesnt exist until i alt+tab, after restart all works fine till another alt+tab.

Going to the top left corner and click LFS minimize, after return to LFS i have resize window icon while having cursor on the edges, when i try to change size (while full screen) nothing happen, but after shift+f4 (go to window) the window is smaller (just as small as i wanted to change it while fullscreen.

Cheers.

Forgot to add, problem didnt exist in Z18 and earlier ;)

[Degats]

Same here with the UI when loading lfs into fullscreen.

Clickable areas seem to be misaligned about 4px right, 16px down.

Vista x64

ed: 1440x900 if that makes any difference

[zeromussov]

Please can you give some more info?

Were you in game at the time, or typing a message?

Do you mean, SHIFT+S like, spectate?

Which version of Windows were you using?

Just had the same problem... WIndows crashed and whole screen flickers. But not with Shift-s, I switched to Windowed mode, then tried to connect to a Z19 host. In the meantime I switched back to my browser, when I pressed LFS again is happened. I'll try to reproduce it.

[manneF1]

Nice,i hated that LX4 spare tyre bug:)

And now it´s gone!

[Dmt]

W7 x64 also here, forgot to mention.

[hotmail]

XP 32 bit, Z19
While fullscreen going alt+tab and return to LFS i cant click buttons:
Here is screen with red dot where i had to click to get what i wanted.
http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/4167/screendz.png

Problem doesnt exist until i alt+tab, after restart all works fine till another alt+tab.

Going to the top left corner and click LFS minimize, after return to LFS i have resize window icon while having cursor on the edges, when i try to change size (while full screen) nothing happen, but after shift+f4 (go to window) the window is smaller (just as small as i wanted to change it while fullscreen.

Cheers.

Same here with the UI when loading lfs into fullscreen.

Clickable areas seem to be misaligned about 4px right, 16px down.

Vista x64

ed: 1440x900 if that makes any difference

Same here, But its a very very easy fix...
You need too re-set the screen resolution, after that its correct again for më:thumb:

[boothy]

FIX : LX4 number plate no longer intersects with spare tyre


Unfortunately a (small) new problem has occured :(

I assume also than in shift + u mode the dashboard controls and other gauges are not mean to be shown?

[Tomsteel]

Same UI problem here, i need to click beyond a button to click on it, but after windowing and restoring it works correctly.

Win7 32bit

[IlGuercio]

Why does the spare tyre still intersect with the plate for me?
http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/1087972/lx4_spare_tyre.jpg

[andRo.]

Thanks, downloading. I love your fast work lately. :D

[majod]

Why does the spare tyre still intersect the plate for me?
http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/1087972/lx4_spare_tyre.jpg

its fine for me...perhaps you havent updated to Z19 correctly? :shy:

[geeman1]

When I start LFS fullscreened (I am using SoftTH). The cursor shows the busy signal, except the animation is stuck and I can see the icons on the taskbar flicker when I hover over them on the bottom of the screen and if I click near the bottom (over the taskbar) LFS minimizes. I can click buttons in LFS fine. Minimizing LFS and going back fixes this.

Windows 7 x64.

[JO53PHS]

Nice work on the dashboard lights. Out of interest, there is what appears to be a trip computer on the RAC. Is there any way of resetting this or is it purely to look nice at this stage? :)

It's not really important but I was just wondering.

[IlGuercio]

its fine for me...perhaps you havent updated to Z19 correctly? :shy:

You are right,windows didn't overwrite the folders:really:
BTW,im now experiencing the same problems as the others,i start lfs in fullscreen and the buttons position appear to have been shifted.

[gatebil94]

innstalation dont work for me :S

got pic

[Scawen]

Thanks all for the reports of the Windows 7 / maybe Vista problem, it seems the full screen window is not setup correctly when you first start LFS (if you start full screen). I'll look into that right now and soon upload a test exe for you to try.

LFS doesn't seem to remember windowed resolutions correctly. It's always fixed to the same size regardless of resolution selected. Applies to all resolutions, shift-f4 does not fix the issue. Persist through restart of LFS, running all test patches from same folder.
OS: Vista32 HP.OK, I don't think that is a bug. Now, the selected full screen resolution intentionally has no effect on the windowed resolution. The only thing that changes windowed resolution now is you using your mouse to resize the windowed window. That is persistent when you go to full screen and back again, LFS should be in the same place and the same size that you last set it.

everything i did since Z19:

run LFS, noticed the strange GUI bug, presse shift+S (to window mode), GUI was OK.
closed LFS, run LFS again in window mode...then pressed shift+S to fullscreen mode - bang...black screen, lfs minimizes and everyting is wrong.

windows 7 32bit + ati 4870

it happens alwys, either in menu or during gameplay, only in window mode lfs is running OKSounds like the other bug, but the only thing that confuses me is : I have no idea how you use SHIFT+S to go to a window. For most people it is SHIFT+F4... I think.

[Crady]

I have a button click problem:

I only need to start in FULL screen mode and it is not possible to click the buttons. I have to try to find a "clickable" point to select multiplayer but then it opens the driving school instead..

I am back to Z18 for now.

Windows 7 64bit final, Nvidia 9600GT driver version 191.07, 1920x1080x32

EDIT: sorry was typing while you posted... seems to be a known problem right now

[J@tko]

innstalation dont work for me :S

got pic
LFS.exe isn't running is it?

[Scawen]

OK, anyone with the full screen startup problem (Windows 7, etc).

Please start full screen with this special test exe (attached) and let us know if it solves the problem.

EDIT : Test 2 is now available - http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?p=1285794#post1285794

[NotAnIllusion]

OK, I don't think that is a bug. Now, the selected full screen resolution intentionally has no effect on the windowed resolution. The only thing that changes windowed resolution now is you using your mouse to resize the windowed window. That is persistent when you go to full screen and back again, LFS should be in the same place and the same size that you last set it.
I see, then it's working fine. It's a bit distracting to have a different aspect ratio in FS than in windowed mode and having to guess how wide to drag it instead of clicking an obvious ratio. Imo having the windowed and FS resolutions separate, but clickable from the same list would work better.

[ADOLF1612]

I have this GUI Bug too, tryed to start Lfs in full screen, when in main menu, click on any corner (top/down left/right) and try to drag it, the game minimizes, then going back to it on fullscreen, the buttons are offset, depending on wich corner and direction you dragged.

if it´s from interest, i´m using Windows XP Sp3 32bit, a 2006 PC, nothing very modern, and i can perfectly reproduce this bug.

Btw, all the other features/updates are working Perfect! the trip meter in the RAC and the oil pressure gauges in the LX Cars are Perfect!,

Tryed to reproduce that Shift-U Bug, never happened, and I´m actually experiencing a Boost on Fps, so beside the little bug on here, everything is Ok Scawen :thumb:.

[gatebil94]

yea it worked with this one :D thx got Z19 now :)
edit: vista 64bit

[Jet_ CZE]

LFS_Z17_test_1.exe does not solve the problem for me
win 7 x64

[zeromussov]

OK, anyone with the full screen startup problem (Windows 7, etc).

Please start full screen with this special test exe (attached) and let us know if it solves the problem.

WARNING : Do not attempt to unlock with this exe. If the fix works I'll release a valid update.

Dunno how to start it in full screen. But it opened in Windowed mode, then I pressed Shift-F4, and the black flashing began. (not responding etc.) W7, 32bit.

[JO53PHS]

the tacometer is only showing the left indicator, this happens only in the road cars, btw.


The other indicator is in the speedo.

[ADOLF1612]

OK, anyone with the full screen startup problem (Windows 7, etc).

Please start full screen with this special test exe (attached) and let us know if it solves the problem.

WARNING : Do not attempt to unlock with this exe. If the fix works I'll release a valid update.

Just tryed it, Im Not running Win 7 or vista, but it stills happening on here, even with this .exe ...

The other indicator is in the speedo.

Ohh yes, sorry for that... :S

[geeman1]

OK, anyone with the full screen startup problem (Windows 7, etc).

Please start full screen with this special test exe (attached) and let us know if it solves the problem.

WARNING : Do not attempt to unlock with this exe. If the fix works I'll release a valid update.
It fixed the taskbar showing/clicking on the bottom minimzing LFS issue for me.

The cursor still shows the stuck busy icon a while after LFS has been started though. After a while it goes back to the normal arrow.

Also a small thing I noticed is that if you are on the track, then click ESC to bring up the menu, then put the cursor over the left upper corner (where the FPS meter is), then press ESC and the mouse cursor does not get hidden until you move away from top of the FPS meter.

[Tomsteel]

Scawen,

I can't see any changes with the new "test exe", problems are still existing.

Win7 32bit, Radeon 4850

Edit: I can't click out from the window now in full screen, but i'm still unable to click on a button normally.

[Montana]

OK, anyone with the full screen startup problem (Windows 7, etc).

Please start full screen with this special test exe (attached) and let us know if it solves the problem.

WARNING : Do not attempt to unlock with this exe. If the fix works I'll release a valid update.
Didn't solve the problem.
Vista64 nvidia 8800gt

[ninja469]

Shouldn't it be Z19-1 test ?

[Crady]

Shift lights removed from all road cars other than RaceAbout

is the MRT a road car too?

was on Z19 shortly and had the buttons problem... copied back the Z18 exe but I still have no shift light at the MRT :(

[Scawen]

Dunno how to start it in full screen. But it opened in Windowed mode, then I pressed Shift-F4, and the black flashing began. (not responding etc.) W7, 32bit.To start in full screen you just go into full screen in LFS, then exit.

When you next start LFS it will be in full screen mode (it starts in full screen if you last exited in full screen).

[Scawen]

Shouldn't it be Z19-1 test ?Yes, I named it wrongly.

I have to think more about another attempted fix. The so called LFS_Z17_test_1.exe contained the obvious fix, but apparently does not solve all the problems. So this time I need to think a bit more.

[zeromussov]

To start in full screen you just go into full screen in LFS, then exit.

When you next start LFS it will be in full screen mode (it starts in full screen if you last exited in full screen).

Yep, ok. But when I try to go in full screen Windows crashes. (black/flickering - windows/taskbar etc.)

Only way to stop the flickering is ending the LFS proces. Next time it will start in windowed mode again.

[Simpson]

LFS_Z17_test_1.exe does not solve the problem for me
win 7 x64
On Windows XP doesnt solve problem with top-left click whats minimize LFS, and alt+tab.

EDIT: dont know is it related, but Z19 (Z17 test) starts somehow different than Z18 and previous.
Z18 starts from full black screen, than menu is showing.
Z19 (Z17 test) starts from fullscreen half transparent, and then menu is showing ;)

[Crady]

Well the Z17_test files behaves way better, but it is still not as good clickable as the other versions.

You have to click a button twice sometimes and and you have to move the mouse on the button to find a point where the click works.

But it did not bring me to the driving school while clicking on multiplayer.

[The Very End]

Great :)
Not encountered any problems so far.

[aroX123]

Z 17 test think solved my problem, thanks!

[Senninha25]

I didn't find anything wrong and I'm using the original Z19 exe.
I'll try again and edit the post with feedback in case I find something.

Forgot to say this, but I noticed that LFS started more sluggishly, waited 5 seconds or so looking at the tiny status bar and then it booted.

After-test-edit: I didn't get "detoured" by the buttons, but I got this when I exited the host list.
Oh btw, can that "window during join" option "bug" be fixed? I usually have it set to "no" but it always goes to "yes" everytime I install a patch.

Windows XP Professional SP2.

[IlGuercio]

I tried running LFS with the Z17 test.exe and it didn't fix the issue.
Windows Vista 64 Business SP2.

[Tomba(FIN)]

Can't open LFS now, Z17 worked fine.

[TurboBlaster]

Hm, is this caused by Z19? The gears onboard are red.

[The Very End]

Same here.

One thing, what have you done to the FE track? Custom textures or anything? :D

[bbman]

I just tried it with W7 - I too got the flickering and when I tried to click a button on the bottom of the screen, I actually clicked the symbol in the taskbar... So it seems that LfS - although shown on top - is actually running behind all open windows... The test exe makes it even more apparent, as the overlay (all black) is shown behind all windows, and then goes to windowed mode, functioning normal from that point on...

[Simpson]

I have something to add, while using Z17test.
After alt+tab (or top-left corner click), and get back to window i dont have resize icon cursor anymore (near edges)
But when i move mouse to the top of the screen i can drag "window" with LFS.
The only thing is change is invisible borders, it not screen size anymore, its restricted to place where i draged it, background stays without any change.

Here is screen with little explanation:
http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/9853/screenw.png

Windows XP SP2

[Tomba(FIN)]

The windowed / fullscreen thingy bugs and because of that my LFS can't run.

[runeman]

Specs

Q6600
4870 1GB
2 gigs of ram
Catalyst 9.5
Windows XP

Runs great!

Keep the good work up!


Also nice update on the symbols on the dashboard!

[KassadGLA]

Thanks! :thumbsup: Testing...

[majod]

Thanks all for the reports of the Windows 7 / maybe Vista problem, it seems the full screen window is not setup correctly when you first start LFS (if you start full screen). I'll look into that right now and soon upload a test exe for you to try.

OK, I don't think that is a bug. Now, the selected full screen resolution intentionally has no effect on the windowed resolution. The only thing that changes windowed resolution now is you using your mouse to resize the windowed window. That is persistent when you go to full screen and back again, LFS should be in the same place and the same size that you last set it.

Sounds like the other bug, but the only thing that confuses me is : I have no idea how you use SHIFT+S to go to a window. For most people it is SHIFT+F4... I think.

sorry i meant shift+f4, i dont know why i wrote shift+s :shy:

[hda]

with Z19, I got no problem whatsoever with clicking the buttons, the only issues are:

- clicking on the bottom corners causes LFS to minimize (it shows the start menu if you click on the bottom left and the desktop if u click on the bottom right - which is where the show desktop button is located in windows 7)

- the rezise window icons are shown even in fullscreen

After getting minimized to windows I can still go back to LFS, I just need to click on its icon. Switching to window and back to full screen fixes both of the above problems.

With the test exe I no longer have the problems above but now I get the misplaced clickarea like some people are getting in Z19


Windows 7 x64 RTM
Nvidia 7600gt - Forceware 190.62
1680*1050*32

[TurboBlaster]

One thing, what have you done to the FE track? Custom textures or anything? :D

Yes.

[Thorvertonian]

Tried the test exe, still have shifted GUI

Windows 7 x64, Geforce 8800GTS....

Also tried running LFS as administrator, no difference...

Compatiability modes make no difference either

[JO53PHS]

Hm, is this caused by Z19? The gears onboard are red.

For the love of christ, how can you live with that hideous dashboard caused by using a Pre-patch Z DDS file? :schwitz:

[TurboBlaster]

For the love of christ, how can you live with that hideous dashboard caused by using a Pre-patch Z DDS file? :schwitz:

Why this sarcasm? Its a bug that i found and i reported it.

[Whiskey]

Here is screen with little explanation:
http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/9853/screenw.png


Tried to drag the black edge, and it moves all the clickable areas down.

The very weird thing, is that I can click the Start button while in full screen(or at least it minimized my LFS twice and opened the start menu)

Using Windows 7 Professional 64 and ATi

PS: Using Z17 test

[senn]

The Red gear indicator is a feature, not a bug, as it's on all the cars.

Your dash textures are screwed tho, ie in the centre, where its red and black or whatever, not mapped properly, because it's an old texture. (NOT TEST PATCH RELATED)

[Simpson]

Tried to drag the black edge, and it moves all the clickable areas down.

The very weird thing, is that I can click the Start button while in full screen(or at least it minimized my LFS twice and opened the start menu)

I made little bit more testing with Z19, NOT test posted further and:
- Start LFS full screen (Z19)
- click top-left corner, or alt tab
- return to LFS i have resize-mouse on border, and moved buttons positions
- shift+f4 to window
- shift+f4 to full screen
- i cant no longer minimize LFS by clicking top-left corner (good), buttons are all ok (good), i dont have resize-mouse on borders (good), and now i can easily alt+tab many times without any problems caused by moved buttons or resizing (good) ETC

Everything on XP with SP2. ;)

Edit: funny thing
- start LFS full screen (Z19)
- shift+f4, window is like full screen!
http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/4669/windowed.png
take a look at top rounded corners!
- shift+f4 (full screen)
- shift+f4, normal window
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/158/windowed2.png
- shift+f4 (full screen)
- everything workes fine from now

[Whiskey]

Yeah, same here.
In Z19 the ful screen is "fake" (after clicking in top-left corner). You can click close button in top-right, or redimension the windows, which allow you to click on the aplication which is behind (in my case Firefox hehe)

In the test I can't click close button, but can minimize it by clicking in top-left corner

[hazaky]

Is this normal? :shrug:

http://www.lfsforum.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=94229&stc=1&d=1255726394

[hda]

Is this normal? :shrug:

http://www.lfsforum.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=94229&stc=1&d=1255726394

the car being in neutral or the red text? both are normal

[KassadGLA]

Is this normal? :shrug:

i can't see nothing strange in that screenshot

[Scawen]

Hi there, sorry about the delay, it took a while...

I've got another test here. If you get the window problem, please can you try this test and let us know if the problem is fixed?

Thanks.

WARNING : Do not attempt to unlock with this exe. If the fix works I'll release a valid update.

[Simpson]

XP + Z19 test 2 - works good, no problems mentioned before

[Crady]

z19_test2 perfect for me on the click issue, thanks

[hda]

everything looks ok now

Windows 7 x64 RTM
Nvidia 7600gt - Forceware 190.62
1680*1050*32


actually! I found a bug, if I start LFS in a window and then try to change it to fullscreen, I get a black screen with the mouse flickering in the center. I can make a movie if u think it would help you

[Taavi(EST)]

All perfect now! :thumb:

[Scawen]

everything looks ok now

Windows 7 x64 RTM
Nvidia 7600gt - Forceware 190.62
1680*1050*32


actually! I found a bug, if I start LFS in a window and then try to change it to fullscreen, I get a black screen with the mouse flickering in the center. I can make a movie if u think it would help youDoes anyone else get this bug?

And is that new, or the same in old versions?

[Bass-Driver]

It works for me
thx
Vista Home Premium 32 bit


And thx for the new testpatch
maybe i didnt read the whole thread but did u forgot update the dashsymbols for UFR and XFR ??

[IlGuercio]

Z19_test_2 works for me:thumb:

[NitroNitrous]

First of all thanks for the update :thumb:

...
Included "Latino" translation : South American / Mexican Spanish...

Who had this idea? Then we should have also Canario, Aragones, Andaluz... and obviously American and British English separated as well :really:

[Scawen]

maybe i didnt read the whole thread but did u forgot update the dashsymbols for UFR and XFR ??No, I didn't know there was anything wrong with them. I did the road cars plus slight improvements to the big GTR cars which still don't have their proper interior update. Also slight improvements to the MRT5, another underdeveloped dash.

[IlGuercio]

Does anyone else get this bug?



Yep Scawen,i suffer from this bug too with test2.

[Scawen]

First of all thanks for the update :thumb:



Who had this idea? Then we should have also Canario, Aragones, Andaluz... and obviously American and British English separated as well :really:Well there are long discussions about this in the Language section.

Some South Americans don't like some of the Castellano words. For example, they do not like to see "Coche" because in their language it means something which you push a baby in.

[hda]

Does anyone else get this bug?

And is that new, or the same in old versions?

I tried Z19 now and got the same problem, the only way I can get out that black screen is by bringing up the task manager and then terminating lfs' process while the screen flickers, which isn't very easy to do

[Scawen]

Yep Scawen,i suffer from this bug too with test2.Which version of Windows? Sorry if you've said before.

Can you get to full screen at all if you start in a window, or is it just a black window and flickering mouse whatever you do?
What if you try different SHIFT+F9-F12 keys?

[IlGuercio]

Which version of Windows? Sorry if you've said before.

Can you get to full screen at all if you start in a window, or is it just a black window and flickering mouse whatever you do?
What if you try different SHIFT+F9-F12 keys?

Win Vista 64 Business SP2:)
If i start in a window and then i press shift+f4 i get flickering screen and lfs turns all black.
What do you exactly mean with the sentence in bold?:)

[hda]

Which version of Windows? Sorry if you've said before.

Can you get to full screen at all if you start in a window, or is it just a black window and flickering mouse whatever you do?
What if you try different SHIFT+F9-F12 keys?

I got the Z18 exe, renamed it to lfsz18 and ran it on the same folder i got lfs z19. The game was in full screen so I quit and when I launched it again the window was smaller than the one I had in z19 and going full screen didn't cause any flickering.

The funny thing is that now the problem is gone with z19 as well :shrug:

I'm confused

[Scawen]

What do you exactly mean with the sentence in bold?:)The ways to go to full screen :

SHIFT+F9, SHIFT+F10, SHIFT+F11, SHIFT+F12 (can be programmed in Screen Options)

Anyway, how about this Test 3 (attached)... I'd be surprised if it makes a difference but it has one more thing like Z18.

[majod]

Z19_2 doesn't work for me neither...
my lfs starts in window mode, after shift+f4 black screen and everything flicker again...
but!!! when I press shift+f12 -> wrong...
shift+F9-F11 - ITS OK! and then when I press shift+F12 its working...
and its working when I press shift+f4 to window and switch back to fullscreen:)

well actually...its working

[Simpson]

In Options->screen you can assign resolution to:
Shift+F9
Shift+F10
Shift+F11
Shift+F12

EDIT: i see u post reply :)

[geeman1]

Test2 and test3 work good except the stuck busy cursor still stays on. It could be SoftTH related though. Windows 7 x64.

[IlGuercio]

The ways to go to full screen :

SHIFT+F9, SHIFT+F10, SHIFT+F11, SHIFT+F12 (can be programmed in Screen Options)

Anyway, how about this Test 3 (attached)... I'd be surprised if it makes a difference but it has one more thing like Z18.

If i go with shift+f12 it is all right.I tried shift+f9 and it works too.
Looks like only shift+f4 is bugged.
I'll try test3:)

[hda]

The ways to go to full screen :

SHIFT+F9, SHIFT+F10, SHIFT+F11, SHIFT+F12 (can be programmed in Screen Options)

Anyway, how about this Test 3 (attached)... I'd be surprised if it makes a difference but it has one more thing like Z18.

both test 2 and 3 are working now (after using z18 like I described in my last post)

[Napalm Candy]

I don't know if it is mentioned before.

But with the multiscreen enabled, in the main menu the buttons are in wrong position, not the draw but the where to click. So if I click to practice don't happen, if I click on multiplayer go to practice, if I click on One Player go to multiplayer.. etc.

No problem in windowed mode. Only in Fullscreen mode, but if I do window and go to fullscreen again it run fine

Also when I start LFS say "Could not create english file"

It is not a fresh install from Z, is from Z18, I will do a fresh install tomorrow

[Not Sure]

windows xp sp3 / geforce 7600 gt

no problems

[iFastLT]

It still flicker for me when starting in windowed and switching to fullscreen. Tried to do it with original z19 exe ant got the same

[IlGuercio]

Scawen i tried test3 and the flickering things is still there.
If i start lfs in a window and then shift+f4 the screen goes black and everything flickers but,if i quickly hit that combination again it goes back to window mode and i can read a red message on the top left of the screen:
Screen dimension changed:go to full screen.

[Scawen]

I don't know if it is mentioned before.

But with the multiscreen enabled, in the main menu the buttons are in wrong position, not the draw but the where to click. So if I click to practice don't happen, if I click on multiplayer go to practice, if I click on One Player go to multiplayer.. etc.

No problem in windowed mode. Only in Fullscreen mode, but if I do window and go to fullscreen again it run fine

Also when I start LFS say "Could not create english file"

It is not a fresh install from Z, is from Z18, I will do a fresh install tomorrowI guess you are usiong Z19?

Please can you try with this special test exe, to see if it solves the problem for you?

http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?p=1285831#post1285831

[majod]

so for me the solution was:
shift+F9 (or something else then full resolution), THEN SHIFT+F12...
after that - shift+f4 was working again

also gui bug disappeard

[Flame CZE]

Am I right that on LX cars there's an oil pressure gauge? Nice :)

And nice clocks update on the RAC, I like the tachometer :)

[BOSCHO]

i have problems with the buttons
when the mouse it over a button i cant click it
i need to go under the button to click it

[geeman1]

Test2 and test3 work good except the stuck busy cursor still stays on. It could be SoftTH related though. Windows 7 x64.
Actually the busy cursor is not stuck. Looks like it just starts the animation from the start very quickly all the time. In the main menu it looks completely still, but when I go to for example track selection screen it turns for fraction of a second and then starts from the beginning of the animation.

[IlGuercio]

so for me the solution was:
shift+F9 (or something else then full resolution), THEN SHIFT+F12...
after that - shift+f4 was working again

also gui bug disappeard

After the first flickering the shift+f4 combo works again,it's just the first instance that is buggy.

[calbond]

I managed to get the first patch installed but now i have re-insatlled LFS into My harddrive instead of desktop to make it easier. I keep getting the message :ERROR: Can not delete output file D:\LFS\LFS.exe
Can someone help please
Thanks

[dravgunov]

"Shift lights removed from all road cars other than RaceAbout"

would be nice to have a chance to set ON/OFF shift light in settings (UF1, XFG...), because I had to get used over the years :shy:

[Nilex]

User interface/mouse alignment after alt+tab full screen startup is fixed. Didn't had a chance to test Test1. No flickering problem with windowed startup, then shift+F4 to full screen.
Win XP.

[Scawen]

Scawen i tried test3 and the flickering things is still there.
If i start lfs in a window and then shift+f4 the screen goes black and everything flickers but,if i quickly hit that combination again it goes back to window mode and i can read a red message on the top left of the screen:
Screen dimension changed:go to full screen.OK, tell me if I understand you right...

If you exit LFS full screen, then you start LFS it is in full screen, and everything works fine? You can go to window and back to full screen?

But if you exit LFS in a window, then you start LFS it is in a window, and from this point you cannot go full screen?

And in what way can you not go full screen? Just by using SHIFT+F4? What about SHIFT+F9 to F12?

[iFastLT]

Am I right that on LX cars there's an oil pressure gauge? Nice :)

And nice clocks update on the RAC, I like the tachometer :)
RAC has oil pressure gauge too

[Napalm Candy]

I guess you are usiong Z19?

Please can you try with this special test exe, to see if it solves the problem for you?

http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?p=1285831#post1285831

Yes I'm using Z19. I do a fresh install, same problem. I tried this exe and runs fine, no problem with this.

[IlGuercio]

OK, tell me if I understand you right...

If you exit LFS full screen, then you start LFS it is in full screen, and everything works fine? You can go to window and back to full screen?

But if you exit LFS in a window, then you start LFS it is in a window, and from this point you cannot go full screen?
All right:)

And in what way can you not go full screen? Just by using SHIFT+F4? What about SHIFT+F9 to F12?

Shift+F9-F12 works well:)

[iFastLT]

OK, tell me if I understand you right...

If you exit LFS full screen, then you start LFS it is in full screen, and everything works fine? You can go to window and back to full screen?

But if you exit LFS in a window, then you start LFS it is in a window, and from this point you cannot go full screen?

And in what way can you not go full screen? Just by using SHIFT+F4? What about SHIFT+F9 to F12?
Same problem. I get that error by starting LFS in windowed and pressing SHIFT+F4, SHIFT+F9 to F12 works fine

[three_jump]

the test 2 works for me (vista sp2, 64bit)

But I get some other weird thing which I haven't noticed before in single player (which i haven't used in ages tbh). When I play with ai cars, join and leave the pits I get a "not recording" message.

[Simpson]

the test 2 works for me (vista sp2, 64bit)

But I get some other weird thing which I haven't noticed before in single player (which i haven't used in ages tbh). When I play with ai cars, join and leave the pits I get a "not recording" message.
Its been like this for ages.

[Scawen]

Well it looks like we are nearly there, only SHIFT+F4 has a problem. I'll look into that right now and see what's up.

i have problems with the buttons
when the mouse it over a button i cant click it
i need to go under the button to click itI guess you are using Z19?

Please can you try with this special test exe, to see if it solves the problem for you?

http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?p=1285831#post1285831

the test 2 works for me (vista sp2, 64bit)

But I get some other weird thing which I haven't noticed before in single player (which i haven't used in ages tbh). When I play with ai cars, join and leave the pits I get a "not recording" message.That has always been there, only now it's red.

[Degats]

Gui/click misalignment fixed from test 2 :)

Can't reproduce any of the others in z19 or any of the tests.


HD4890, ccc v9.9, vista64 sp2, clean lfs install for all.

[Tomsteel]

I'm having a "Screen dimensions changed : initialise graphics" message when starting the game in windowed mode, but full-screening works perfectly for me, no flickering, only this message on startup.

I'm using the "test 3 exe", and i have no more UI(clicking) problem with it, which i had before.

Win7 32bit, 4850 with 9.9 driver, untouched/unmodified files

[Napalm Candy]

i have problems with the buttons
when the mouse it over a button i cant click it
i need to go under the button to click it

It is the same problem that I have, but no with the test3 exe...

The error "Could not inicialice english file" don't appears with a fresh install Z+Z19

I'm using Windows 7, have relation with directx11 maybe?

[Scawen]

All right:)


Shift+F9-F12 works well:)

Same problem. I get that error by starting LFS in windowed and pressing SHIFT+F4, SHIFT+F9 to F12 works fineIt is very hard to understand how SHIFT+F4 can not work, if SHIFT+F9 to SHIFT+F12 do work. It just doesn't seem to make any sense. :shrug:

Please can you try something for me :

Get your LFS ready in such a way that it is going to go wrong when you start it (I think that means you exit LFS in a window).

Then copy the line from your cfg.txt that starts "Screen Info".

Now, check that when you start LFS, you get the strange bug when you press SHIFT+F4. If so, can you paste that "Screen Info" line here? That is the line which determines which mode is selected when you press SHIFT+F4... but LFS does check that it is a valid mode before using it.

Also some more useful info would be the lines INFO_F9 INFO_F10 INFO_F11 and INFO_F12

[BOSCHO]

Well it looks like we are nearly there, only SHIFT+F4 has a problem. I'll look into that right now and see what's up.

I guess you are using Z19?

Please can you try with this special test exe, to see if it solves the problem for you?

http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?p=1285831#post1285831


yes im with z19
and yes the test exe solves the problem

[Takumi_lfs]

Still have the Black screen flickering when starting from windowed to fullscreen using Shift+F4 with test 3.exe

Btw, The first time you press Shift+F4 when windowed, it will get that flickering black screen, but if you press again it will go to windowed back and after that you press shift+f4 again it will egt to fullscreen like it should.

[Taavi(EST)]

I had the Shift + F4 problem in default Z19. When i uninstalled nHancer, the problem went away. Not completely sure, if nHancer was the problem, but that's the only thing i did.

[IlGuercio]

It is very hard to understand how SHIFT+F4 can not work, if SHIFT+F9 to SHIFT+F12 do work. It just doesn't seem to make any sense. :shrug:

Please can you try something for me :

Get your LFS ready in such a way that it is going to go wrong when you start it (I think that means you exit LFS in a window).

Then copy the line from your cfg.txt that starts "Screen Info".

Now, check that when you start LFS, you get the strange bug when you press SHIFT+F4. If so, can you paste that "Screen Info" line here? That is the line which determines which mode is selected when you press SHIFT+F4... but LFS does check that it is a valid mode before using it.

Also some more useful info would be the lines INFO_F9 INFO_F10 INFO_F11 and INFO_F12

Ok Scawen,this are the results.
I set LFS in window mode and close it.

Screen Info 1 0 800 600

Now i open LFS and press Shift+F4.
And this is the result in cfg.txt after flickering and shutting LFS from Task manager

Screen Info 0 0 1280 800


Should i try to see the result in cfg.txt with shift+F9-12?

[avih]

Just a quick report
Z19 had flickers at areas on which the desktop had transparent widgets (calendar etc).
Z19_3 didn't have this issue

XP/SP3/GTX260+/E8400

[hda]

Still have the Black screen flickering when starting from windowed to fullscreen using Shift+F4 with test 3.exe


try running lfs.exe from z18 (start it in a window and then shift+f4 after it loads) and see if the problem still occurs when you go back to z19

[Scawen]

Ok Scawen,this are the results.
I set LFS in window mode and close it.

Screen Info 1 0 800 600

Now i open LFS and press Shift+F4.
And this is the result in cfg.txt after flickering and shutting LFS from Task manager

Screen Info 0 0 1280 800


Should i try to see the result in cfg.txt with shift+F9-12?See this attached picture, this is the mode that SHIFT+F4 should be trying to use.

Can you try in Screen Options to click this button (the one shown in white here) and see if it works? 800 x 600 16 bit (no Hz number)

[Takumi_lfs]

A video how it kinda works on my pc.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVVE32Re8WQ

OS is Vista ultimate

@Scawen, That worked for me. Changing screen info to 0 60 800 600 worked.

[DanielC]

Z19 had the interface problems with me, Z19 test 3 works fine though.

Windows 7 X64 Final, P7450, 4GB, 9600GT (191.00)...

[Scawen]

Just a quick report
Z19 had flickers at areas on which the desktop had transparent widgets (calendar etc).
Z19_3 didn't have this issue

XP/SP3/GTX260+/E8400Thank you. I would be interested to know what Z19_2 did in this situation.

I'm not sure if there is really any difference between test 2 and test 3 but if you have a minute that would be useful.

Test 2 : http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?p=1285794#post1285794

[Takumi_lfs]

It still flickers when going back to 1680x1050 back up again

[IlGuercio]

See this attached picture, this is the mode that SHIFT+F4 should be trying to use.

Can you try in Screen Options to click this button (the one shown in white here) and see if it works? 800 x 600 16 bit (no Hz number)

It works,and im starting from window mode.
Im starting to get quite confused...:D

[Scawen]

A video how it kinda works on my pc.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVVE32Re8WQ

OS is Vista ultimate

@Scawen, That worked for me. Changing screen info to 0 60 800 600 worked.Thanks for the video. I assume that is what happens when you press SHIFT+F4.

Your final comment is a bit confusing. What I really need to know is what values you have in your "Screen Info" line before you start LFS and do get the bug.

[danthebangerboy]

Not really a bug, but is there a reason why colour of the in car gear display text (N-1-2 etc...) doesn't change when the clock text colour is changed, as every other aspect of the dials section can be changed to your personal preference, yet that bid stays bright red, regardless of what you change in the display menu.

[Takumi_lfs]

Sorry for the confusing post

But setting Sreen info to 1 0 800 600 seems to work when switching it to full screen.

And I also found another thing, Every resolution works normal like it should when shifting it back to fullscreen after starting lfs but only 1680x1050 doesnt work. 1680x1050 seems to get the flicker after shift+f4 when starting the game in windowed.

Hope this helps.

[josemspain]

when blocking tyres on RB4 car, on f9, tyres appear with orange colour i will add a replay where you can see it
Edit: ohhhh nothing, it seems to be a system to see tyres who are using ABS

[Takumi_lfs]

when blocking tyres on RB4 car, on f9, tyres appear with orange colour i will add a replay where you can see it

That's ABS, not really a bug

[Scawen]

OK, here is something to try and see what is going on with your SHIFT+F4 key.

When LFS starts there are some messages like :

Oct 17 00:12:20 SHIFT+F4 should use 32 bit / 60 Hz / width 3840 / height 1200
Oct 17 00:12:20 SHIFT+F4 mode is 32 bit / 60 Hz / width 3840 / height 1200

And when you press SHIFT+F4 there is a message like :

Oct 17 00:12:26 TRYING to go full screen : 32 bit / 60 Hz / width 3840 / height 1200

I'd like to know what those are in your case, when it goes wrong. You can find them in your deb.log file.

[josemspain]

That's ABS, not really a bug

thx, i just realized that was ABS, didnt see the light (it is new, true?)

[rockclan]

OK, here is something to try and see what is going on with your SHIFT+F4 key.

When LFS starts there are some messages like :

Oct 17 00:12:20 SHIFT+F4 should use 32 bit / 60 Hz / width 3840 / height 1200
Oct 17 00:12:20 SHIFT+F4 mode is 32 bit / 60 Hz / width 3840 / height 1200

And when you press SHIFT+F4 there is a message like :

Oct 17 00:12:26 TRYING to go full screen : 32 bit / 60 Hz / width 3840 / height 1200

I'd like to know what those are in your case, when it goes wrong. You can find them in your deb.log file.


Please go and sleep, you need your rest as well:shy:

[Takumi_lfs]

Oct 17 01:17:26 LFS : 0.5Z19
Oct 17 01:17:26 timer resolution 1 ms
Oct 17 01:17:26 read config
Oct 17 01:17:26 get command line
Oct 17 01:17:26 preinit d3d
Oct 17 01:17:26 number of adapters : 1
Oct 17 01:17:26 adapter 0 - valid modes : 98
Oct 17 01:17:26 SHIFT+F4 should use 32 bit / 60 Hz / width 1680 / height 1050
Oct 17 01:17:26 SHIFT+F4 mode is 32 bit / 60 Hz / width 1680 / height 1050
Oct 17 01:17:26 load bans
Oct 17 01:17:26 load font
Oct 17 01:17:26 -----
Oct 17 01:17:26 max texture size 8192
Oct 17 01:17:26 can do shadows
Oct 17 01:17:26 can use 2x tex
Oct 17 01:17:26 can do multi tex
Oct 17 01:17:26 can use dynamic tex
Oct 17 01:17:26 can use compressed tex
Oct 17 01:17:26 create english file
Oct 17 01:17:26 load language
Oct 17 01:17:26 initialisations
Oct 17 01:17:26 human system
Oct 17 01:17:27 tables
Oct 17 01:17:27 helmet
Oct 17 01:17:27 controllers
Oct 17 01:17:27 load objects
Oct 17 01:17:27 default light map
Oct 17 01:17:27 start intro
Oct 17 01:17:27 end of initialisation
Oct 17 01:17:27 init sound
Oct 17 01:17:28 TRYING to go full screen : 32 bit / 60 Hz / width 1680 / height 1050
Oct 17 01:17:36 TRYING to go full screen : 32 bit / 60 Hz / width 1680 / height 1050
Oct 17 01:17:40 shutting down
Oct 17 01:17:40 free objects
Oct 17 01:17:40 free languages
Oct 17 01:17:40 free controllers
Oct 17 01:17:40 clear light map
Oct 17 01:17:40 close sound
Oct 17 01:17:40 free humans
Oct 17 01:17:40 free font
Oct 17 01:17:40 free helmet
Oct 17 01:17:40 free host list
Oct 17 01:17:40 kill graphics
Oct 17 01:17:40 save calibrations
Oct 17 01:17:40 save controls
Oct 17 01:17:40 save views
Oct 17 01:17:40 save config
Oct 17 01:17:40 free mouse
Oct 17 01:17:40 EXIT


I pressed Shift+F4 back again for windowed mode after the black flickering and then pressed Shift+f4 again and worked.. Here's the debug

[roadrash17]

I don't know if this was mentioned, but, When I start my LFS.exe, I can't click on anything until I hit shift+f4. :shrug:

Also: Not a bug but more of a request, Would it be possible to get traction control on the RB4? I think that that would be realistic.:nod:

[Scawen]

And I also found another thing, Every resolution works normal like it should when shifting it back to fullscreen after starting lfs but only 1680x1050 doesnt work. 1680x1050 seems to get the flicker after shift+f4 when starting the game in windowed.

Hope this helps.Interesting... is that your desktop resolution?

Can you get into that mode without flickering if you select it in Screen Options?

[hda]

Interesting... is that your desktop resolution?

Can you get into that mode without flickering if you select it in Screen Options?

I got the same desktop resolution and no flicker, posting the log in case it helps

Oct 17 00:19:34 LFS : 0.5Z19
Oct 17 00:19:34 timer resolution 1 ms
Oct 17 00:19:34 read config
Oct 17 00:19:34 get command line
Oct 17 00:19:34 preinit d3d
Oct 17 00:19:34 number of adapters : 1
Oct 17 00:19:34 adapter 0 - valid modes : 116
Oct 17 00:19:34 SHIFT+F4 should use 32 bit / 60 Hz / width 1680 / height 1050
Oct 17 00:19:34 SHIFT+F4 mode is 32 bit / 60 Hz / width 1680 / height 1050
Oct 17 00:19:34 load bans
Oct 17 00:19:34 load font
Oct 17 00:19:35 -----
Oct 17 00:19:35 max texture size 4096
Oct 17 00:19:35 can do shadows
Oct 17 00:19:35 can use 2x tex
Oct 17 00:19:35 can do multi tex
Oct 17 00:19:35 can use dynamic tex
Oct 17 00:19:35 can use compressed tex
Oct 17 00:19:35 create english file
Oct 17 00:19:35 initialisations
Oct 17 00:19:35 human system
Oct 17 00:19:35 tables
Oct 17 00:19:35 helmet
Oct 17 00:19:35 controllers
Oct 17 00:19:35 load objects
Oct 17 00:19:35 default light map
Oct 17 00:19:35 start intro
Oct 17 00:19:35 Blackwood
Oct 17 00:19:35 end of initialisation
Oct 17 00:19:37 Next LOD
Oct 17 00:19:37 Next LOD
Oct 17 00:19:37 Next LOD
Oct 17 00:19:37 Meshes : 34
Oct 17 00:19:37 init sound
Oct 17 00:19:42 TRYING to go full screen : 32 bit / 60 Hz / width 1680 / height 1050
Oct 17 00:20:02 shutting down
Oct 17 00:20:02 free objects
Oct 17 00:20:02 free languages
Oct 17 00:20:02 free controllers
Oct 17 00:20:02 clear light map
Oct 17 00:20:02 close sound
Oct 17 00:20:02 free humans
Oct 17 00:20:02 free font
Oct 17 00:20:02 free helmet
Oct 17 00:20:02 free host list
Oct 17 00:20:02 kill graphics
Oct 17 00:20:02 save calibrations
Oct 17 00:20:02 save controls
Oct 17 00:20:02 save views
Oct 17 00:20:02 save config
Oct 17 00:20:02 free mouse
Oct 17 00:20:02 EXIT

[Takumi_lfs]

Yes, that's my desktop resolution.

and nope, I can't get into that mode without the black flickering with the screen info edit. For the second time, it always works.

[DanielC]

Working fine for me, no flikering with Shift+F4, etc.

Desktop is at 1920x1080, LFS is at 1280x720 ... :)

Oct 17 01:19:53 LFS : 0.5Z19
Oct 17 01:19:53 timer resolution 1 ms
Oct 17 01:19:53 read config
Oct 17 01:19:53 get command line
Oct 17 01:19:53 preinit d3d
Oct 17 01:19:53 number of adapters : 1
Oct 17 01:19:53 adapter 0 - valid modes : 120
Oct 17 01:19:53 SHIFT+F4 should use 32 bit / 60 Hz / width 1280 / height 720
Oct 17 01:19:53 SHIFT+F4 mode is 32 bit / 60 Hz / width 1280 / height 720
Oct 17 01:19:53 load bans
Oct 17 01:19:53 load font
Oct 17 01:19:53 -----
Oct 17 01:19:54 max texture size 8192
Oct 17 01:19:54 can do shadows
Oct 17 01:19:54 can use 2x tex
Oct 17 01:19:54 can do multi tex
Oct 17 01:19:54 can use dynamic tex
Oct 17 01:19:54 can use compressed tex
Oct 17 01:19:54 create english file
Oct 17 01:19:54 load language
Oct 17 01:19:54 initialisations
Oct 17 01:19:54 human system
Oct 17 01:19:55 tables
Oct 17 01:19:55 helmet
Oct 17 01:19:55 controllers
Oct 17 01:19:55 load objects
Oct 17 01:19:55 default light map
Oct 17 01:19:55 start intro
Oct 17 01:19:55 Blackwood
Oct 17 01:19:55 end of initialisation
Oct 17 01:19:57 Next LOD
Oct 17 01:19:57 Next LOD
Oct 17 01:19:57 Next LOD
Oct 17 01:19:57 Meshes : 38
Oct 17 01:19:57 init sound
Oct 17 01:20:06 TRYING to go full screen : 32 bit / 60 Hz / width 1280 / height 720
Oct 17 01:20:17 TRYING to go full screen : 32 bit / 60 Hz / width 1280 / height 720
Oct 17 01:20:22 Race setup : data\veh\XR GT TURBO.veh
Oct 17 01:20:35 TRYING to go full screen : 32 bit / 60 Hz / width 1280 / height 720
Oct 17 01:20:43 Race setup : data\veh\XR GT TURBO.veh
Oct 17 01:20:54 Garage : data\veh\XR GT TURBO.veh
Oct 17 01:21:02 Race setup : data\veh\XR GT TURBO.veh
Oct 17 01:21:25 TRYING to go full screen : 32 bit / 60 Hz / width 1280 / height 720
Oct 17 01:21:31 Exit : clean up
Oct 17 01:21:31 Exit : draw background
Oct 17 01:21:31 Exit : delete
Oct 17 01:21:31 Race setup : data\veh\XR GT TURBO.veh
Oct 17 01:21:33 shutting down
Oct 17 01:21:33 free objects
Oct 17 01:21:33 free languages
Oct 17 01:21:33 free controllers
Oct 17 01:21:33 clear light map
Oct 17 01:21:33 close sound
Oct 17 01:21:33 free humans
Oct 17 01:21:33 free font
Oct 17 01:21:33 free helmet
Oct 17 01:21:33 free host list
Oct 17 01:21:33 kill graphics
Oct 17 01:21:34 save calibrations
Oct 17 01:21:34 save controls
Oct 17 01:21:34 save views
Oct 17 01:21:34 save config
Oct 17 01:21:34 free mouse
Oct 17 01:21:34 EXIT

[Takumi_lfs]

Scawen, I moved the cfg.txt file and redid my configurations and it doesnt flicker anymore. Could it be because it used the older cfg.txt file it flickers?


Oct 17 01:27:48 LFS : 0.5Z19
Oct 17 01:27:48 timer resolution 1 ms
Oct 17 01:27:48 read config
Oct 17 01:27:48 get command line
Oct 17 01:27:48 preinit d3d
Oct 17 01:27:48 number of adapters : 1
Oct 17 01:27:48 adapter 0 - valid modes : 98
Oct 17 01:27:48 SHIFT+F4 should use 32 bit / 60 Hz / width 1680 / height 1050
Oct 17 01:27:48 SHIFT+F4 mode is 32 bit / 60 Hz / width 1680 / height 1050
Oct 17 01:27:48 load bans
Oct 17 01:27:48 load font
Oct 17 01:27:48 -----
Oct 17 01:27:48 max texture size 8192
Oct 17 01:27:48 can do shadows
Oct 17 01:27:48 can use 2x tex
Oct 17 01:27:48 can do multi tex
Oct 17 01:27:48 can use dynamic tex
Oct 17 01:27:48 can use compressed tex
Oct 17 01:27:48 create english file
Oct 17 01:27:48 load language
Oct 17 01:27:48 initialisations
Oct 17 01:27:48 human system
Oct 17 01:27:49 tables
Oct 17 01:27:49 helmet
Oct 17 01:27:49 controllers
Oct 17 01:27:49 load objects
Oct 17 01:27:49 default light map
Oct 17 01:27:49 start intro
Oct 17 01:27:49 Blackwood
Oct 17 01:27:49 end of initialisation
Oct 17 01:27:52 Next LOD
Oct 17 01:27:52 Next LOD
Oct 17 01:27:52 Next LOD
Oct 17 01:27:52 Meshes : 34
Oct 17 01:27:52 init sound
Oct 17 01:27:55 TRYING to go full screen : 32 bit / 60 Hz / width 1680 / height 1050
Oct 17 01:28:01 shutting down
Oct 17 01:28:01 free objects
Oct 17 01:28:01 free languages
Oct 17 01:28:01 free controllers
Oct 17 01:28:01 clear light map
Oct 17 01:28:01 close sound
Oct 17 01:28:01 free humans
Oct 17 01:28:01 free font
Oct 17 01:28:01 free helmet
Oct 17 01:28:01 free host list
Oct 17 01:28:01 kill graphics
Oct 17 01:28:01 save calibrations
Oct 17 01:28:01 save controls
Oct 17 01:28:01 save views
Oct 17 01:28:01 save config
Oct 17 01:28:01 free mouse
Oct 17 01:28:01 EXIT


Here is the debug

E: It really works :)

E2 : If I put the old cfg file back it still flickers.. I think that you should add a blank cfg file with the new patch.

[hda]

Scawen, I moved the cfg.txt file and redid my configurations and it doesnt flicker anymore. Could it be because it used the older cfg.txt file it flickers?

Here is the debug

E: It really works :)

E2 : If I put the old cfg file back it still flickers.. I think that you should add a blank cfg file with the new patch.

you could also paste both cfg's so scawen can figure out what was causing it :)

[Takumi_lfs]

Here you go Scawen

hda, could you try the blackflickeringcfg file and check if it also flickers on your version of lfs?

[bbman]

Ok, tried every test exe... All of them take a long time to start (about 3 seconds black screen), and switching between windowed and full screen also takes time (about half)...

2 seemed to be unable to go to full screen from the start, and constantly started windowed after the inevitable 3 second black screen, though after I fired up the original Z19 inbetween it suddenly worked fine...

3 works absolutely fine, no problems whatsoever with that...

And here the log of 4, also no problems:
Oct 17 01:35:29 LFS : 0.5Z19
Oct 17 01:35:29 timer resolution 1 ms
Oct 17 01:35:29 read config
Oct 17 01:35:29 get command line
Oct 17 01:35:29 preinit d3d
Oct 17 01:35:29 number of adapters : 1
Oct 17 01:35:29 adapter 0 - valid modes : 134
Oct 17 01:35:29 SHIFT+F4 should use 32 bit / 60 Hz / width 1920 / height 1080
Oct 17 01:35:29 SHIFT+F4 mode is 32 bit / 60 Hz / width 1920 / height 1080
Oct 17 01:35:29 load bans
Oct 17 01:35:29 load font
Oct 17 01:35:29 -----
Oct 17 01:35:30 max texture size 8192
Oct 17 01:35:30 can do shadows
Oct 17 01:35:30 can use 2x tex
Oct 17 01:35:30 can do multi tex
Oct 17 01:35:30 can use dynamic tex
Oct 17 01:35:30 can use compressed tex
Oct 17 01:35:30 create english file
Oct 17 01:35:31 initialisations
Oct 17 01:35:31 human system
Oct 17 01:35:33 tables
Oct 17 01:35:33 helmet
Oct 17 01:35:33 controllers
Oct 17 01:35:33 load objects
Oct 17 01:35:33 default light map
Oct 17 01:35:33 start intro
Oct 17 01:35:33 end of initialisation
Oct 17 01:35:33 init sound
Oct 17 01:35:40 TRYING to go full screen : 32 bit / 60 Hz / width 1920 / height 1080
Oct 17 01:35:45 TRYING to go full screen : 32 bit / 60 Hz / width 1920 / height 1080
Oct 17 01:35:56 shutting down
Oct 17 01:35:56 free objects
Oct 17 01:35:56 free languages
Oct 17 01:35:56 free controllers
Oct 17 01:35:56 clear light map
Oct 17 01:35:56 close sound
Oct 17 01:35:56 free humans
Oct 17 01:35:56 free font
Oct 17 01:35:56 free helmet
Oct 17 01:35:56 free host list
Oct 17 01:35:56 kill graphics
Oct 17 01:35:56 save calibrations
Oct 17 01:35:56 save controls
Oct 17 01:35:56 save views
Oct 17 01:35:56 save config
Oct 17 01:35:56 free mouse
Oct 17 01:35:56 EXIT

[Scawen]

Thank you for your help and patience with that annoying bug.

I've made a new patch now, Z20... we'll see if it is OK.

Now I'll be able to sleep :)

http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=62382