The Best Button For Handbrake On A G25

[jimmyboy313]

I've been playing around with various different handbrake buttons for the G25 but have no yet found one that works amazingly. I was wondering if you guys had any personal experience with a good button for a handbrake on the G25?

[kamkorPL]

No good place for handbrake on g25.

Best solution for me is spacebar on keyboard.

[amp88]

Thanks to a tip from my teammate Delusion the best button for a handbrake on the G25 is the sequential shifter. If you use the paddles for shifting then put the shifter in sequential mode and use the "upshift" of the sequential shifter (i.e. pull back) as the handbrake. Makes you feel like a WRC driver plus it's generally easier to get to than the keyboard or the buttons on the G25 shifter unit.

[jimmyboy313]

Hmmm I've considered both of these options, especialy the upshift as a handbrake, but I'm not sure really. Is it easy to change back quickly becuase i drive a lot of cars as H-Shift mode. I'm sure some kind of script can be made but i'm not very good with scripts.

[jimmyboy313]

Does anyone have any scripts that may work?

[AndroidXP]

LFS Manual: Automatic shifter configuration (for Logitech G25 users) (http://en.lfsmanual.net/wiki/Script_Guide#Automatic_shifter_configuration_.28fo r_Logitech_G25_users.29)
(Note the text in italics :smileypul)

For handbrake reassignment, follow the guide above and just add this in...

road.lfs:
/button 4 handbrake

paddle.lfs:
/button 9 handbrake

sequential.lfs:
/button 4 handbrake

This will make the right paddle the handbrake when in H-gate or sequential mode (IMO closest feeling to "pulling a stick" for the handbrake when the gearstick isn't available), respectively pulling back the sequential stick when using paddles. Of course you can also use other button numbers* if you want a different configuration. If you want to simulate a rally car (in for example the RB4) then once on the track you should open the chat window and type "/run paddle" or "//paddle" which will put you in paddle mode.

* To find out the number for a controller button, go to Options > Controls and press the button in question. You will see the button # and currently assigned function in the middle right part of the screen.

[Syfoon]

Does anyone have any scripts that may work?

I've written a load of scripts which allows me to change between control configurations by using Ctrl+F11/12.

For instance, the XRT has a H-pattern script and a drift script. I leave the garage, press Ctrl+F12 and it loads the drift script which switches to paddles to shift and puts the handbrake on shift up on the sequential, as well as displaying a little message reminding me to change the shift mode, as well as wheel rotation in the Profiler.

It's pretty easy to do, I'm a complete idiot when it comes to scripting and I had no issues, even with sorting out annoying ones like paddles/sequential in both 540 and 720 degress on the XFR.

I'll clean them up and send them over if you want :)

[P V L]

I am using the right red button, easy to get there with my thumb.:thumb:

[senn]

ditto, right red button on the wheel, left is for PTT on Teamspeak.

the alternative to using a button/key for handbrake, is get an old joystick, and sit it down next to you. Didn't suit me personally but i can see why some people like it.

[bunder9999]

i use the black buttons on the shifter...

the top one is for flash, the bottom one is for handbrake... probably not the best setup, but i hardly use the handbrake to begin with. :shrug:

[RasmusL]

You guys using buttons on the wheel for something.. How do you look to the sides? :shrug:

[shiny_red_cobra]

I use the button on the left of the wheel for handbrake. And the button on the right is the ignition. I look on the sides using the POV arrows on the shifter.

[gatebil94]

i got handbrake on both red butoms on the wheels.. works good

[LSDBlackWolf]

I always drive with H-pattern shifter and assigned the right side red button on the shifter unit as handbrake and I can easily reach it with my middle finger and sometimes with my thumb! :D

[Fox 2]

Same as LSDBlackWolf. Usually using thumb for it though.

[P V L]

You guys using buttons on the wheel for something.. How do you look to the sides? :shrug:

No, wheel buttons are for sideviews.:nod:

Most important in races and most needed. :thumb:

[Feffe85]

i use the paddles for indicators, and the left black button on the shifter for handbrake.. also black-up = flash light, down = hazardlight and right = reset car :)

[c00kie]

I am using the right red button, easy to get there with my thumb.:thumb:

Same here, but sometimes it can be tricky to get to, especially when you need more angle mid drift and then you have to rearrange your hands to press it, most of the time when I finally get to it I'm not drifting anymore because the wheels have caught up with the track.

Wait...just to clarify, are you using the right button on the wheel or the right red button on the shifter? I use the right button on the wheel and the left button is horn.

[JasonJ]

I use the very top black round button on the shifter unit for handbrake. I can find it very quickly when both hands are on the wheel and I cannot glance down. I could assign handbrake to the wheel somewhere, but I kinda feel a little impotent if I don't have to reach down to get the handbrake on.


I am finally moving on from this though. Just two days ago bought an attack3...
http://www.techfuels.com/attachments/everything-else/4054d1216822327-logitech-attack-3-joystick-logitech-attack-3-joystick.jpg to use as a dedi handbrake. Not yet installed in my "rig" yet.

[P V L]

Wait...just to clarify, are you using the right button on the wheel or the right red button on the shifter? I use the right button on the wheel and the left button is horn.

I use the right red button on shifter, as I said before: Wheel buttons are

most needed and important for sideviews. My shifter is fixed more down and

nearby, so my thumb just falls onto this button.:thumb:

http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?p=975820#post975820

[jimmyboy313]

I'll try it :)

[Nadeo4441]

I use the left black button on the top of the shifter for the handbrake.

[Keling]

DIY a handbrake, it's easy !

[arrowkart4]

left button on g25 = handbrake
right=clutch

[logitekg25]

peddles (why cant i spell right now :really:) as what they are supossed to be, wheel paddles what they are supossed to be when they are in sequential/paddle car, right button ignition, left button horn, shifter, up arrow pit lane speed limiter, down arrow traction control, nothing else for anything else except the look back is the second red button to the left and last button is reset, i got an attack 3 joystick, where my top most button is hazards, the buttons left and right are turn signals accordingly, button below those flash, trigger is off, left is look left, right is look right, pull back is handbrake. :tilt:

[irollgen4s]

hm i figured i should post my arrangements since ive tried fine tuning mine for a while :shrug:

red buttons on the wheel used for sideview

right paddle handbrake, left paddle nothign unless using sequential. when in sequential i dont have a handbrake.

top black button on shifter pit speed limiter

left and right i forgot but nothing important :tilt:

down black button is traction control

on the D-pad. up left and right arent used for anything

down on D-pad is used for resetting car

left red button is to look behind
2nd red button(from the left on all of these) is horn
3rd red button is flash
last red button is ignition.


this is the best method for me since i switch between rally, road car racing, and drift alot. i almost never race cars requiring sequential gears. sorry for long post but it was the easiest way to may it clear and readable. :thumb:

[Zipppy]

I personally use the top black button on the shifter to use the handbrake in LFS, it works for me quite well. I also made a "holding" command for the handbrake, it holds the handbrake when activated (just like a real car), even in gear. It's useful when parking in a cruise server. If someone bumps my car, it won't go rolling down the road (and probably cause an accident).

But for some other games (that I prefer to use the paddles, or games that have no proper gearing systems), I use the H-gate on sequential mode for the handbrake. It gives me a faint idea of what a handbrake should feel like, (I never drove a real car though).

I am however quite lazy to make my own handbrake, or to go out and buy a joystick.

I'll post my setup as well, as some are already

POV pad to look (pressing the corner buttons between top and side show 45* and the side buttons show 90*, all buttons that are on the lower side, including corners, show rear view)

Left red button on wheel + paddles turn left and right turning signals on (and off), and bottom black button on shifter turns all signals on (and off).

Starter on far right red button on shifter (convenient enough for me)

Headlights on far left button (I made them turn on and off, instead of just flashing)

Handbrake on top black button (same comment as beginning of post)

I have mapped shifting on the paddles and the H-gate's sequential mode (thanks to external programs).

[antman2006]

I use my right paddle shifter for handbreak :) Never drive non H Shifter cars anyway, what's the fun :P

[logitekg25]

I personally use the top black button on the shifter to use the handbrake in LFS, it works for me quite well. I also made a "holding" command for the handbrake, it holds the handbrake when activated (just like a real car), even in gear. It's useful when parking in a cruise server. If someone bumps my car, it won't go rolling down the road (and probably cause an accident).

But for some other games (that I prefer to use the paddles, or games that have no proper gearing systems), I use the H-gate on sequential mode for the handbrake. It gives me a faint idea of what a handbrake should feel like, (I never drove a real car though).

I am however quite lazy to make my own handbrake, or to go out and buy a joystick.

I'll post my setup as well, as some are already

POV pad to look (pressing the corner buttons between top and side show 45* and the side buttons show 90*, all buttons that are on the lower side, including corners, show rear view)

Left red button on wheel + paddles turn left and right turning signals on (and off), and bottom black button on shifter turns all signals on (and off).

Starter on far right red button on shifter (convenient enough for me)

Headlights on far left button (I made them turn on and off, instead of just flashing)

Handbrake on top black button (same comment as beginning of post)

I have mapped shifting on the paddles and the H-gate's sequential mode (thanks to external programs).
first of all, nice setup, if you park in a cruise server, you should leave the car in gear, when it is off so it does not move. also how do you set a handbrake lock with the handbrake being an axis? i have the profiler. (but i dont really know how to use it :razz:) for the lights, instead of them being just flash, how do you do that? i assume it is with the profiler, but i don know how to use it either way :shrug:

[Zipppy]

first of all, nice setup, if you park in a cruise server, you should leave the car in gear, when it is off so it does not move. also how do you set a handbrake lock with the handbrake being an axis? i have the profiler. (but i dont really know how to use it :razz:) for the lights, instead of them being just flash, how do you do that? i assume it is with the profiler, but i don know how to use it either way :shrug:

I used the profiler and a similar program called "Xpadder (http://www.softpedia.com/get/System/System-Miscellaneous/Xpadder.shtml)" for both. There is a new Xpadder release (July 23rd) but it is not free. (It costs $19 if I remember correctly, paid through the internet)

My handbrake is a simply a button mapped to a key on the keyboard with the profiler. I used the left wheel button as a "shift" button to activate the secondary mode of the handbrake button, which is mapped to itself if pressed in shift mode in the profiler. I mapped a "toggle" command in Xpadder to the key I set as the handbrake.

The lights were done by using Xpadder (The profiler hasn't been able to "hold" a control really, it just had a repeat rate option). I mapped the button to the key that makes the headlights flash (by default, "G"). One drawback is that it constantly keeps pressing "G", and it messes up a chat message. I think a possible solution would be to make the script press backspace after it presses "G". (it's the same way tommy did on his strobe program and it worked for him).

Also, in case anyone is curious, the way I made looking (incrementally I think, but I don't know the proper word to describe it) possible was the same kind of idea as above, and mapped some of the POV's buttons (left, right and down) in LFS and the rest in Xpadder (in addition to the left and right buttons), the left button is mapped to the right look in Xpadder and vice versa.

The profiler can't have more than 1 assignment at once per control (ie. If you map a button in the profiler to "A", the ingame control will go to "A", and not the button's control itself). If you map it in Xpadder, it goes to the button's command and to the set key in Xpadder.

I will test the method said a few paragraphs above, and share my findings.

EDIT:I found that backspace worked in a way, but it did not allow chat messages to show, It erases everything, I should try a quicker speed to see if it improves.

[logitekg25]

but how do you use the profiler :really:

[Postman Pat]

Don't understand using red buttons, because the shifter's in the way for me. From RBR (if not using paddles to shift), I decided on the top black button, which allows you to grab the console of the shifter as a physical reference and support while operating button with thumb when wrestling the wheel around tight corners. Stops you falling off your chair too. :)

[logitekg25]

i dont have to worry about falling out of my chair...i have a makeshift cockpit :D

it does the job :shrug:

[c00kie]

I will test the method said a few paragraphs above, and share my findings.

EDIT:I found that backspace worked in a way, but it did not allow chat messages to show, It erases everything, I should try a quicker speed to see if it improves.

You could make it so that when you press 't' (or whatever your chat key is) it'll disable it and then if you press either enter or escape it turns back on.

[LSDBlackWolf]

I use the right button on the wheel and the left button is horn.

Thats why there are so many crashes, you have the wrong buttons assigned thus you dont get to see who's racing next to you...
Now i understand the panic at T1! :D

[JasonJ]

On the subject of handbrakes :)

I have tried to make my Attack3 Logitech joystick work as a handbrake on its Y-Axis.

When you first start the PC and LFS the axis is centred. This makes the handbrake half on half off all the time in LFS. I tried using a spring to pull it to one end but this ruins the auto calibration when you reboot PC as it thinks the stick is centred when it is actually pulled to one end and then it goes nuts. How do you guys set up a joystick effectively as a handbrake in LFS?

Essentially, how do you make it so a centred joystick is handbrake off so it only uses half the axis... how is it done? I read here Logitekg25 does it with his so it must be possible.

Thanks for any help.

[logitekg25]

On the subject of handbrakes :)

I have tried to make my Attack3 Logitech joystick work as a handbrake on its Y-Axis.

When you first start the PC and LFS the axis is centred. This makes the handbrake half on half off all the time in LFS. I tried using a spring to pull it to one end but this ruins the auto calibration when you reboot PC as it thinks the stick is centred when it is actually pulled to one end and then it goes nuts. How do you guys set up a joystick effectively as a handbrake in LFS?

Essentially, how do you make it so a centred joystick is handbrake off so it only uses half the axis... how is it done? I read here Logitekg25 does it with his so it must be possible.

Thanks for any help.
tweak for logitech forget what it is called :shrug:

[JasonJ]

Ah ok I see. thnx

I've been googling a while now. Too many items to really find anything specific. Do you use a Logitech SPECIFIC tweak program or is it DX Tweak?

edit1: Ok downloaded DXTweak2.exe - which has a description of Logitech DX Tweaker Application
Is this the one? I don't wanna install something that might mess everything up in DirectX Input.
edit2: OK, read some forums on it, seems safe enough to give it a go.
edit3: Holy crapola, I just jizzed in my pants - works awesome. Analoge handbrake heaven. TYVM Logitekg25 :)
edit4: It's a shame that you cannot save profiles in it. Crashes as soon as I try to save my own tweak in WinXP

[c00kie]

Thats why there are so many crashes, you have the wrong buttons assigned thus you dont get to see who's racing next to you...
Now i understand the panic at T1! :D

Blame it on me, I've got my look buttons assigned to left/right on the hat/FOV whatever it's called, close to the shifter which I use quite often :D

[logitekg25]

Ah ok I see. thnx

I've been googling a while now. Too many items to really find anything specific. Do you use a Logitech SPECIFIC tweak program or is it DX Tweak?

edit1: Ok downloaded DXTweak2.exe - which has a description of Logitech DX Tweaker Application
Is this the one? I don't wanna install something that might mess everything up in DirectX Input.
edit2: OK, read some forums on it, seems safe enough to give it a go.
edit3: Holy crapola, I just jizzed in my pants - works awesome. Analoge handbrake heaven. TYVM Logitekg25 :)
edit4: It's a shame that you cannot save profiles in it. Crashes as soon as I try to save my own tweak in WinXP
it crashes for me too, just set it, and save it if you can...i think there is an option that lets you try to continue instead of close it...if not dont try to save and just exit out, it should still work :D

sorry for not being specific, i was getting yelled at by my dad to get off :razz: but i just had to help you :thumb:

EDIT: just read the readme file, i think that gave me valuable info about how to save it on winxp

[wody21]

I know it's an old topic, but I didn't read that version (G25 + handbrake):

-When I'm using the wheel's paddles for shifting up and down, then the G25's shifter is in sequental mode, so there is only 2 "speed": upshift (pulling the shifter knob) and downshift (pushing it) (Like in a Wtcc/Wrc car). So then I 'operate' the "upshift" (pulling the shifter knob, almost like using a handbrake) for handbrake.
-When "I'm in H-shifter mode", one of the wheel's paddle is the handbrake.

It's pretty comfortable.

[FPVaaron]

I turn the brake balance towards the back on all my drift setups, the just use the brake to slide it.

[alquimista]

It depends how you drive ... if you use the h-shifter the best it will be one of the buttons in the shifter unit ... if not ... the Space key on keyboard will be a good choice

[Stefani24]

Imho, if you don't use the h-shifter, put it into sequential position, and pull it back to you. This comes closest to a real e-brake I think.

[Crashgate3]

Handbrake is the right red button.

I have the paddles bound to look left/right, which I find fantastic. You can also hit one, then keeping that held down, hit the other to look behind in most games (in LFS you look further round, not behind).

I loose the use of the paddles for gears, but I so rarely drive cars that would use them, it doesn't matter.

[Nicce]

I always drive with H-pattern shifter and assigned the right side red button on the shifter unit as handbrake and I can easily reach it with my middle finger and sometimes with my thumb! :D

:thumb:
used that button in 3year drifting and bought a logitec attack 3 just because to get axis ebrake.. now im not driftin annymore and the redbutton is used once again. but mostly only after races when standing still somewhere waiting for restarts. :tilt:

(annyone wanna buy a logitec attack 3??) :x

[pasibrzuch]

You can also hit one, then keeping that held down, hit the other to look behind in most games (in LFS you look further round, not behind).
If you change One Button Look to eg. 65* it will sum up when both buttons are used, so a situation behind will be pretty visible.

[Crashgate3]

If you change One Button Look to eg. 65* it will sum up when both buttons are used, so a situation behind will be pretty visible.

I run a 160 degree FOV anyway, so I can see behind if the driver only just looks over his shoulder :D