Professional racers who have played LFS? [Archive]

DasBoeseC

10th March 2006, 06:06

Some names can be found here:

http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=3783

.....and I think this thread does not mention Moby who races Formula Renault, GPunkt who is the German Rally Cross Champion and Mark Striper who got his cockpit in a Porsche for a 2006 endurance championship by racing GTR (but he also races LFS).....

There seem to be quite a few at least semi-professional race drivers ;)

CU, Sebastian

Chaos

10th March 2006, 06:19

in the czech community we also have a professional racer who plays LFS... Jardier aka Jaroslav Honzik Jr. :thumb: and he is pretty green too :alien2: :tilt: :D

Jonesy_

10th March 2006, 07:49

iirc LFS made norbi a real life racer :scratchch

at least I have that kind picture for some reason.

Thorvertonian

10th March 2006, 08:48

That's also a rumour that "The Hamster" and "The Stig" from Top Gear frequent the servers every now and then!

sgt.flippy

10th March 2006, 09:03

I bet "The Stig" is for the addition of a cd/radio player in LFS cars :D

noemfie

10th March 2006, 09:13

That's also a rumour that "The Hamster" and "The Stig" from Top Gear frequent the servers every now and then!

If that is true it would be awesome if they did some sort of review of LFS in typical top gear fashion :)

ORION

10th March 2006, 09:14

Arrechee is racing cart, and my team mate AudiRS6 is the cart slalom god :D
The amount of real racers is quite high :D

speedykev

10th March 2006, 09:17

Is it just me that thinks the Stig is Damon Hill. :scratchch

immense

10th March 2006, 09:31

i thought the "stig" wasnt just one person, i think i read somewhere that the stig has been multiple people

XRRoy

10th March 2006, 09:36

you guys forget Nikemere, he has been a pro racer too:thumb:

Funnybear

10th March 2006, 09:56

The stig isn't Damon Hill. I've met him on a conference once. He is a really nice bloke and had teh crowd in stiches when he did his dinner speech.

He did actually have a Formula 1 drive a while ago but the team went bust even after he paid his own way to the track . . .

KurtG85

10th March 2006, 10:01

Robert Björkman aka Moby from SDRA - Swedish Digital Racing Association www.sdra.se (http://www.sdra.se) has done carting, formula ford, formula renault .. hes also in the beta test group for LFS. What he thinks about LFS? Long version; ask him! Short version; hes loving it!

Do you have a link to somewhere where hes described his opinions, 'at length'. Or if not could you give us the jist of what he likes, doesnt like about the physics?
Thanks!

Jakg

10th March 2006, 10:13

Is it just me that thinks the Stig is Damon Hill. :scratchchnope, was Perry McArthy, then he "died", now the stig is probably Ben [Damn! Cant remember the surname!]

nikimere

10th March 2006, 10:34

now
the stig is probably Ben [Damn! Cant remember the surname!]
... Collins :thumb:

mrbogeyman

10th March 2006, 10:34

nope, was Perry McArthy, then he "died", now the stig is probably Ben [Damn! Cant remember the surname!]

Ben Dover? :tilt:

sry, couldnt resist. :razz:

One thing that I think is great about LFS is the ability is has to allow real life racers to show their skill on the PC, and LFS racers to translate their learned skills into real life racing.

Once you cover the basics in LFS and start doing some competitive races, your racecraft really picks up and makes you more aware of what real racers must do to hold off other drivers etc etc.

What I think would be interesting (i.e. for a TV show/Mag) was if two sets of racers swapped over from Sim racing to real racing. The aim would be to get within 5% of the lap time (or race time) of the native racers' times. I think it would work best if both sets of drivers were fresh to the other form of racing and were given the same ammount of time to familiarise themselves with their new racing setup.

Come on TopGear :) :thumb: Sim Geeks vs. Real Racers! :scratchch :smileypul

XCNuse

10th March 2006, 13:08

it cant be damon hill, remember.. when they had damon on the show he and also nigel mansell had a weird line compared to the stigs

Thorvertonian

10th March 2006, 13:24

The Stig is Nicholas Minassian

m o b y

10th March 2006, 14:31

Well to explain this at lenght would require alot of time. I will try and give the short version of this.

Lfs is the closest simulator to real racing as you can get today, but there are a few things that is not good at all/ or not implemented yet in the pyhsics engine that is essential to really complete the picture. If you take away tire, aero and the non existent undertray pyshics in the game. I would say they are pretty much spot on. Reactions to setup changes is overall very good, and that is something lfs developers should be very proud over, since it is difficult to get a real car to react correctly to setup changes.

Then there is better cars and worse cars in the game aswell. The worst car would be FZ50 and the two best car in my opinion that is closest to reality is FXO and FOX. However I belive that when tire pyshics gets done properly all cars will get alot better. I think that FXO and FOX just overcomes the difficulties of undertray, aero and tire pyshics better then the other cars right now.

The basic psyhic engine in Lfs is the best by far. Atleast that´s what I think. When all parts fall into place i´m sure no other game will beat it for a long time to come, atleast when it comes psyhics.

Regards
SDRA|Moby

speedykev

10th March 2006, 16:43

Read This Then
http://www.answers.com/topic/the-stig

the stig in action. thats after Clarkson lets him.
http://test.speedykev.co.uk/up-loads/wmv-WcPErI.wmv

arco

10th March 2006, 19:53

This guy is racing in LFS now and then.

http://www.rodolfoavila.com

v4forlife

10th March 2006, 21:06

i take part in the rounds i can afford of the bemsee 400SS class, but that purely amatuer and its on bikes...so it dont really count i guess.

deggis

11th March 2006, 19:17

Tristan wrote in the Vienna Show thread that some Lotus Caterham driver tested LFS. IIRC he complained about the lack of grip.

If that is true it would be awesome if they did some sort of review of LFS in typical top gear fashion :)
No it wouldn't. They cannot compare LFS to anything because it doesn't have real cars or tracks. They would just bash it.

tristancliffe

12th March 2006, 15:11

No, he didn't complain about the "lack of grip", as there is no lack of grip. He said it was a lot harder without feeling the car, excenuating the limits and making it easier to spin. He didn't really mind the low speed grip problem as he wasn't going slow enough to notice it (you don't at Blackwood).

traxxion

12th March 2006, 23:00

My teammate Christian Krognes is a RL karter in the Intercontinental A class.

Here's his website: http://www.chriskart.net/ :thumb:

He hasn't had time to update the 2006 results though.

shim

13th March 2006, 05:45

i know a few ppl who drift in LFS who drift in comps IRL.. :)

StanleyCarter

13th March 2006, 06:09

i know a few ppl who drift in LFS who drift in comps IRL.. :)

Drifting is a whole lot easier to get into compared to professional/formal racing, so there's no surprises there. I myself also have a few friends that drift IRL, in competition or grassroot events.

Anyways, there's this australian called TNDA who was once a regular LFS player as well, he is now racing regularly in his Impreza in one of those racing clubs, don't know if that counts. :tilt:

farcar

13th March 2006, 07:34

Tweaker

13th March 2006, 08:02

Tristan wrote in the Vienna Show thread that some Lotus Caterham driver tested LFS. IIRC he complained about the lack of grip

Couldn't blame him for being wrong :)

BTW, I never knew all that stuff about Norbi. Dang Norbi, lucky guy!! Keep up the good work!

sdether

13th March 2006, 14:25

Yeah anything counts so to speak.
I was also interested in RL racer's views on LFS. What's realistic and what's not.
My bet is that most aspects of LFS are in fact close to the real thing with the biggest differences being G-forces and other loads on your body when racing. My (limited) karting experience will attest to that. :tilt:

I'll second the impact of not feeling the g-forces. While I'm not a RL racer, I have autocrossed extensively and done some track time. Recently I've had the opportunity to spend some seat time in a Force Dynamics 301 w/ LFS and while there are still low speed grip issues, they are much less severe when you can feel the g-forces.

The XR GT Turbo was very well behaved although still a bit more tail happy at low speeds than my car (which is similar in power/weight ratio).

The FO8, which I could barely drive at all with my normal wheel and pedals, became controllable. The biggest difference was that you felt the loss of traction before you could see it on screen and that meant I could correct in time. Without the forces, by the time i realized it on screen, i usually couldn't catch it.

Jianju

15th October 2007, 19:18

I'll second the impact of not feeling the g-forces... Recently I've had the opportunity to spend some seat time in a Force Dynamics 301 w/ LFS and while there are still low speed grip issues, they are much less severe when you can feel the g-forces... The biggest difference was that you felt the loss of traction before you could see it on screen and that meant I could correct in time. Without the forces, by the time i realized it on screen, i usually couldn't catch it.

This is the issue I've been searching for. Just how close to the real thing is LFS on an FD-301? Is it useful training for the real thing, or will it give you bad habits? I'll readily admit, I'm not here for playing games. I want to build a system that will allow me to push myself beyond the limit without breaking my neck and/or trashing a $60K+ sportscar.

But not to derail this thread... I'll start a new one, I suppose...

MagicFr

16th October 2007, 14:46

MagicTurttle :: Busta is racing Rally Cross

his father is Jean Luc Paillet who won french and european rally cross champ several time :)

DeadWolfBones

16th October 2007, 15:49

I was racing last night on the CoRe server with a couple of guys who do Canadian touring cars and the Speed World GT Challenge. Nice dudes. :thumbsup:

Flughafen

16th October 2007, 18:23

Max Ernst form our team once competed at the Deutsche Kart Meisterschaft (german cart championship) and at the Formel König (junior formel championship). After private and financial issues he had to stop reallife racing.

It really sucks that racing is that expensive... hope to compete someday at a little cup or racing event.

deggis

16th October 2007, 22:51

Is current F1 driver enough "professional"? :razz:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=v7HJ14Vt2nQ

NSX_FReeDoM

16th October 2007, 23:31

it cant be damon hill, remember.. when they had damon on the show he and also nigel mansell had a weird line compared to the stigs
yeh all formula 1 drivers who have been on the show took a totally different line than the stig.
so obviously he isnt a formula one driver

joshdifabio

17th October 2007, 00:55

A guy in spdoRacing called Valtteri Bottas, 18 y/o from Finland, races a Formula Renault 2.0 in the Northern European Cup. He's 3rd in the championship in his first season with a pole position and a few podiums, including a wet race where he was 2 seconds per lap faster than the rest of the field. Last weekend he was racing at Spa, and the last race of the season will be at Hockenheim next weekend.

Before this year he raced karts, and won some national championships in Finland. If you want to read anything else about his driving career and achievements check out his page (http://www.driverdb.com/racingdriver4092.html) on the driver database.

One of the events he took part in last year is quite interesting for LFSers; he raced in the FIA Northern European ICA (http://www.mylaps.com/results/newResults.jsp?id=381421&highlight=2) championship with a couple of LFS drivers, Chriskart and Kenneth of F1rst racing.

His LFS username is Vale (http://www.lfsworld.net/?win=stats&racer=vale), but he doesn't play LFS too much as he's quite busy with his real racing career.

Jakg

17th October 2007, 06:21

yeh all formula 1 drivers who have been on the show took a totally different line than the stig.
so obviously he isnt a formula one driverStigs done a LOT of laps of that track though - he can tell the "racing line" as good as anyone (hack most LFS'ers can!), but he also knows which bits are slippery in the wet etc

SabersKunk

17th October 2007, 09:42

The Stig has been an F1 driver, Heikki Kovalainen was the stig when they took the Renault around the TG test track in under a minute.

Bandit77

18th October 2007, 20:59

I want to build a system that will allow me to push myself beyond the limit without breaking my neck and/or trashing a $60K+ sportscar.

no matter what you build: you will not be able to feel anything more than 1 G.

... and even average roadcars brake harder than 1 G. (i think it's 4.5 in F1... yummy!!!)

ultrataco

19th October 2007, 04:13

the two best car in my opinion that is closest to reality is FXO and FOX.

FOX ftw :D

paddy_racer

20th December 2007, 14:12

Sean Edwards played LFS

Fordman

20th December 2007, 14:40

There is a current BTCC driver that race's on LFS. He's a M8 of Niki's ( come on Niki, what's his name )

tongey

20th December 2007, 14:48

Our own [SR] Kristjan (Einar) is in Formula 3 with Carlin Motorpsport :thumb:

Bawbag

20th December 2007, 14:53

"Jeep" has himself a beemer. :D

http://youtube.com/watch?v=8hz2eO_nGJU

Just one of his videos, check his username for more, really classy car he has. :D

yaper

20th December 2007, 16:04

Maybe polish F1 driver Robert Kubica will try LFS (they have LFS-ForceDynamics sim at F1 team, but I don't know if he know that it is LFS). He is known as a sim fan, playing a lot of RBR. He was even polish champion in Colin MacRae Rally. :)
We had Intel Racing Tour in Poland this year, and top drivers from each city went to race with Robert on indoor kart track. Most of the finalyst were from polish LFS forum, and they talk with Robert about joining polish LFS community. So who knows...

morcs

20th December 2007, 16:25

There is a current BTCC driver that race's on LFS. He's a M8 of Niki's ( come on Niki, what's his name )

Eoin Murray I think

chanoman315

20th December 2007, 16:27

Nascar mexican driver Carlos Contreras plays LFS

usakubko

20th December 2007, 17:35

This is the issue I've been searching for. Just how close to the real thing is LFS on an FD-301? Is it useful training for the real thing, or will it give you bad habits? I'll readily admit, I'm not here for playing games. I want to build a system that will allow me to push myself beyond the limit without breaking my neck and/or trashing a $60K+ sportscar.

But not to derail this thread... I'll start a new one, I suppose...
You can get all kinds of fancy gizmos for your computer and it still won't be the "real" thing. Are simulators useful for honing your skills? Definitely. They "simulate" the "real" thing, that's why they're called simulators. I'm all out for real and simulated racing, don't take me wrong. It's pretty common for real racers to use simulators to get ready for their next event also. I play every chance I get. LFS recreates alot of realism, but it is lacking in some areas (downforce, damage, etc). There's bunch of games that get close to the real thing (GT, Forza, Enthusia, etc..), but they're always missing some kind of a detail that'd put them on top. And the actual "realism" of having your butt strapped to the car :)
If you don't wanna spend much and still wanna try racing, check out SCCA's or NASA's programs. Autocross, for example, is a very cheap way to test your limits and not break your neck. Time trials aren't too expensive either.

jaws99

20th December 2007, 17:37

I race karts but that doesn't really count

However good LFS is, it will never simulate the effects of actual driving, and i don't see a game ever doing that, but it's still bloody good fun!

viper-2007

20th December 2007, 17:44

I race karts but that doesn't really count

same here what championship or series do you race in, <<<<<<<<<<<<thats me at rowrah?:D

p.s: sorry to say guys but lfs is nothing compared to the thrill of racing for real side by side with fear of injury or death!!(still great game tho!!):D

Lateralus

20th December 2007, 17:58

yeh all formula 1 drivers who have been on the show took a totally different line than the stig.
so obviously he isnt a formula one driver

Lewis Hamilton took the Stig's line rather than the line the other F1 drivers took. That may have been because it was wet though.

viper-2007

20th December 2007, 18:13

I know that the stig used to be Perry mcarthy a good le mans driver.:scratchch

TRM.13

20th December 2007, 18:25

V.12, Arrechee and me, race in KZ2 competitions of Karting :) (125cc / 6 speed)

(Arreche is top 10 in Spain)

jaws99

20th December 2007, 20:18

I race karts but that doesn't really count

However good LFS is, it will never simulate the effects of actual driving, and i don't see a game ever doing that, but it's still bloody good fun!

Well i'm just in the process of choosing a kart at the moment mate, i've had a lot of driving in al lsorts of races though

I'm probably going to ge getting a Rotax Max (if i can afford it!). I race at Warden Law, it's a great circuit! I've heard Rowrah is pretty good too, i'll bring my kart up some day and check it out :D

viper-2007

20th December 2007, 21:45

i race in junior tkm at the mo but soon moving up to a rotax(might be in msa):D:D:D

TRM.13

21st December 2007, 07:31

once you try a KZ2, you can´t return to a hobby style kart :tilt:
and those karts have less breakdowns

nikimere

21st December 2007, 09:01

Eoin Murray I think
yep! :)
There is also some F3, an ex-A1 GP, Formula Ford, Radical drivers amongst others :)

I wish the DEV's would talk to these guys for their opinions... but anyway, their business, their choices.

deggis

21st December 2007, 12:02

Maybe polish F1 driver Robert Kubica will try LFS (they have LFS-ForceDynamics sim at F1 team, but I don't know if he know that it is LFS). He is known as a sim fan, playing a lot of RBR. He was even polish champion in Colin MacRae Rally. :)
Kubica + RBR this for real and not some stupid rumours? :scratchch

And Nick Heidfeld has played LFS (http://youtube.com/watch?v=v7HJ14Vt2nQ) :)

w126

21st December 2007, 12:42

Kubica + RBR this for real and not some stupid rumours? :scratchchHere is RK interview text and video (in Polish). He speaks about RBR in it.
http://www.pcworld.pl/news/122239.html

J.B.

23rd December 2007, 04:05

Translate or I'll report you for... err.. discriminating against all non-polish LFS users. :razz:

w126

23rd December 2007, 16:09

OK OK :schwitz:;)
RK said Richard Burns Rally is one of his favourite games. He prefers rally simulator over racing simulators because he can race in real life all the time but cannot drive in real rallies. In his opinion RBR is the best rally simulator and one of the best motorsport simulators. RK is rally fan, he likes rallying, and RBR allows to some extent to see how it feels to drive a rally car. Rallying and racing are very different and RK grew up on racing tracks, so he continues racing. He drove in Barborka Rally (in Poland, including Karowa Street SS) three years ago, but now he is not allowed to do it again. He treats simulators as fun and relaxing way of spending time. Although the simulators are developing in a good direction, they will never be as good as driving in real life.

Drunken Predator

23rd December 2007, 22:29

sgt.flippy

24th December 2007, 11:04

I love RBR.. to any RBR enthusiasts.. they have released RSRBR 08 recently!

http://www.rallyesim.fr/forum_rlsm/viewtopic.php?t=348

quick download link:

http://files.filefront.com/Installation+RSRBR+08exe/;9170584;/fileinfo.html

I should play some RBR again, been a while. Is this a patch for it or something, which rbr do I need for this? My french is pretty good, but it doesn't really tell :D

GianniC

24th December 2007, 11:25

"Jeep" has himself a beemer. :D

http://youtube.com/watch?v=8hz2eO_nGJU

Just one of his videos, check his username for more, really classy car he has. :D

He should tweak his setups more, to go faster on the straight :razz::D
Nice car indeed, some good racing too.