[SR] Announce GTi Racing [Archive]

jasonmatthews

8th April 2009, 19:13

Sonicrealms Racing are pleased to announce a new XFG+XRG Server. SR used to really enjoy ctra race 1 and since CTRA has closed down we thought it would be a good idea to bring the GTi class back. Come to our [SR] GTi Racing server and you will find some great GTi racing.

The server is set up using the Airio Race System, and rotates Tracks after every 5 races. If the racers on the server would rather skip the present track and go to the next track, simply vote to end race.

The grid is ordered by the top 8 in their finishing positions and the rest of the grid is ordered by lap time.

We hope this server will provide some much needed GTi fun for the community and we hope you can all keep it as clean as possible.We have now setup a GTi Championship (http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=56324). So please come along and have a race.

Any improvement suggestions are welcome.

BlakjeKaas

8th April 2009, 19:36

Nice!

I hope it will get populated like the FOX server.
It's great fun racing on that server.
Screw waiting for the patch! RACE instead!
You guys are doing a great jorb.

jonas_16

8th April 2009, 19:44

Ill be there all day long :D
Thanks for creating a server if the xfg+xrg combo!

JO53PHS

8th April 2009, 19:48

Let's hope it won't be the carnage hole that Race 1 sometimes was :tilt:

Mp3 Astra

8th April 2009, 19:56

With the S2 tracks, it's got a whole lot more interesting. Westhill is a blast!

amp88

8th April 2009, 20:07

Good luck with the new server guys, hope all goes well. Another step in SR's plan for world domination ;)

Let's hope it won't be the carnage hole that Race 1 sometimes was :tilt:

Tried to PM you Joseph, but your inbox is full ("JO53PHS has exceeded their stored private messages quota and cannot accept further messages until they clear some space"). Just wanted to know why you're missing the most important time of day (Hammer Time) from your avatar? :p

Anthoop

8th April 2009, 20:41

We hope this server will provide some much needed GTi fun for the community and we hope you can all keep it as clean as possible. If the server proves popular we might make a weekly points championship in the future. So please come along and have a race.

Any improvement suggestions are welcome.
Could you post the rotated tracks list please?

jwardy

8th April 2009, 21:02

can we have a mrt server ? mrt is soo much fun

Sueycide_FD

8th April 2009, 21:45

Let's hope it won't be the carnage hole that Race 1 sometimes was :tilt:

you spoke too soon :(

DSElement

8th April 2009, 21:48

With the S2 tracks, it's got a whole lot more interesting. Westhill is a blast!

Agreed, Westhill was a lot of fun :D

I always loved racing in these, good times :]

bunder9999

8th April 2009, 22:01

you spoke too soon :(

i was on sr-fox this morning, and it was atrocious... i started at the back of the pack, and watched as 80% of the pack crashed into each other in T1, and laughed as one of the sr guys started kicking everyone. :smileypul

S14 DRIFT

8th April 2009, 22:04

Mmm, I'll probably be going back there. Probably rusty in the XFG but hey.

dekojester

8th April 2009, 22:57

can we have a mrt server ? mrt is soo much fun

I might put the NDR server on Public Mode for Sunday-early Friday each week when we have a weekend event, but unfortunately it'll mostly be on LFSBC or LFSCART combos Friday and through the event Saturday.

iirc, we have a few free weekends in our series soon, so as not to conflict with other major LFS series, but I'll keep you posted.

But yeah, I'll do some work tonight to get ready for MRT, but right now, the server is called NDR|LFSBC & NDRC or something along those lines, adn should be open...it' set for round 2 of the LFSBC....AS1 w/ TBO. I'll turn airio on after a bit. BUt yeah, our server is still there, just may be named differently.

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jwardy

9th April 2009, 10:29

nice to see the lil car get some love , truley the best car to drive

chaa

9th April 2009, 10:49

maybe you shouldn't select too long combos... fern bay black (yesterday) or so long are too long (imo)

1993weeman

9th April 2009, 11:57

I quite like the long combos. There quite fun and you never did that in CTRA so there is a nice difference. I like doing KY3 in the XFG. Good fun :)

Bean0

9th April 2009, 12:04

I quite like the long combos. There quite fun and you never did that in CTRA so there is a nice difference.

Race 2 had the XFG/XRG on some of the longer tracks, I think I held the record at KY3 in both cars at one point ;)

jasonmatthews

9th April 2009, 12:04

Taken fe4 & fe4r out, left the other ones in, and moved the order around a little.

NickC

9th April 2009, 13:51

Why :( fe4r is master :D

AMB

9th April 2009, 13:56

Turkey you choob :D i loved FE4 made great racing tbh, but your decision :)

jasonmatthews

9th April 2009, 13:57

maybe you shouldn't select too long combos... fern bay black (yesterday) or so long are too long (imo)

^^^^^
That's why :D

AMB

9th April 2009, 14:06

But it was only 3 laps which is the equivalent to like a lot more say on AS1 etc, i'd understand if there was a set amount of laps, and anyway that's 1 person, there were 2 people saying bring it back, me and NickC Let's go on STRIKE!!! nah only joking your choice :) but still I had some great racing with kiyoshi (I think) from your team yesterday on FE4 :) :thumbsup:

jasonmatthews

9th April 2009, 14:54

Ok, due to popular demand (more like harassment :D) I will bring back fe4 & fe4r :nod:

bunder9999

9th April 2009, 15:01

Ok, due to popular demand (more like harassment :D) I will bring back fe4 & fe4r :nod:

you call two people harassment? :D

Mp3 Astra

9th April 2009, 15:02

He's lucky I wasn't around or I would have been abusing him through Ventrilo.

jasonmatthews

9th April 2009, 15:06

Here is the updated track list

Current Track List

BL1|5|XFG+XRG>SO1|8>FE1|10>SO4|4>AS1|8>SO5|5>AS7|3>FE2|6>SO6|6>KY2|4>AS2|6>
KY3|3>SO1R|8>WE1|4>BL1R|5>SO4R|4>KY2R|4>SO5R|5>FE2R|6>SO6R|6>FE4|3>FE1R|9>
KY3R|3>AS2R|6>WE1R|4>AS1R|8>FE4R|3

AMB

9th April 2009, 15:09

Nice one :) I'll call off the hit i put out on you :) just hope it's not too late :thumb:

jasonmatthews

9th April 2009, 15:13

Who's that knocking on my door? They have already got past my 2 dogs :schwitz:

CSF

9th April 2009, 15:14

The feathers will be flying soon...

NickC

9th April 2009, 15:29

haha gobble gobble.

One more question :D Please change fe4 in fe3r :D:D that one is good aswell :)

fe4r and fe3r are the best :)

Rudy van Buren

9th April 2009, 15:34

haha gobble gobble.

One more question :D Please change fe4 in fe3r :D:D that one is good aswell :)

fe4r and fe3r are the best :)

no that are your favorites doesnt make them the best straight away :razz:

jasonmatthews

9th April 2009, 15:34

Why not have them both?:really:

Edit: Anyway, I have put a shiteload of tracks in there, the only way now is to see which ones empty the server and remove them one by one... But I am more than happy to try extra ones..

Rudy van Buren

9th April 2009, 15:41

fe5

jasonmatthews

9th April 2009, 15:45

Rallycross used to be a wreckfest on CTRA and would empty the server every time :shrug:

Rudy van Buren

9th April 2009, 16:26

Yea thinking about that, quite a shame, with the good ppl around it can be good fun though bit door to door into t1 etc... :shy:

aobrien

9th April 2009, 18:02

Rallycross ftw!

mantvisrep

9th April 2009, 18:50

was racing on your server , really good combo,lots of people , some crashes but pretty good racing.I like it!

JohnPenn

9th April 2009, 21:57

Good to see the shopping car back in s2, any circuit is fine with these cars the choice of track is almost Irrelevant( apart from rallycross) probably the most enjoyable car overall for me in LFS.

Tomson(FIN)

9th April 2009, 22:00

Good to see gti´s back on action :thumb: There were pretty much all the time nice and clean races, expect couple of grandmas on the road..
Gotta visit again soon. Just keep the combos interesting.

jasonmatthews

9th April 2009, 22:02

Well I have put pretty much almost every combo in LFS that allows 32 racers and are not rallyx. And seen as ctra1 only had s1 tracks most should be new to the majority of racers :)

NickC

9th April 2009, 22:21

Thanks for great racing tonight :) ciao

Mp3 Astra

10th April 2009, 19:28

It's pretty good, but I really think you need to limit the connections to 35 or something because the lag bars are insane and people are timing out all the time.

AjRose

10th April 2009, 19:41

Wow, S05 not a good track for some of those guys.....

S14 DRIFT

10th April 2009, 20:01

It's pretty good, but I really think you need to limit the connections to 35 or something because the lag bars are insane and people are timing out all the time.

Had no problem here.. people should get better connections.. I'm even on wireless on AOL!!

jasonmatthews

10th April 2009, 20:05

This is on a different machine to the FOX one, which seems fine, so I have requested this gets moved.

pearcy_2k7

10th April 2009, 20:18

I think the main problem is the quality of drivers, so frustrating when you get Mr. Nobcheese trying to be superman/fail at T1, Quite a few times i just lost my temper with them and stopped playing nice. I hope the bad drivers can be banned soon, but i guess this takes time if you've only just started up.

1993weeman

10th April 2009, 20:23

EliteAti

10th April 2009, 20:28

Lol, server off :S

pearcy_2k7

10th April 2009, 20:46

SO5 is not a good track. There has been some incidents that have annoyed me lot. But i guess you just have to get on with it. It doesn't help when your not that great of a driver yourself.

PS. pearcy - i have to say sorry again. That annoyed me that i taken you out :(

Honestly np, i made a few mistakes myself, i got took out so many times i can't even remember this one, in some ways its funny but in others its worrying :schwitz:

1993weeman

10th April 2009, 20:57

Honestly np, i made a few mistakes myself, i got took out so many times i can't even remember this one, in some ways its funny but in others its worrying :schwitz:

:) yeah, i like toke you out on the first lap in the start of the straight, i spun you around.

I just get annoyed when people take me out and when i do it accidentally it really annoys me.

jasonmatthews

10th April 2009, 21:07

Server went down as I swapped the machine it was running on to hopefully help with the lag issue.

VoiD

10th April 2009, 21:24

SO5 is not a good track...

My impressions for this evening:

It´s not the the track, it´s the driver(s) fault. Divebombing, not giving room in narrow situations, pushing the car infront under braking etc..it´s all unrelated from the choosen track.

Same goes for AS7 (some people even dont know the track) or blackwood (everyone immediately switched to hotlap-mode, read above)

I´m not that fast on these combos, but I know quite well when to lift/brake earlier/change line to avoid crashes...

tiagolapa

10th April 2009, 21:34

My impresions for this evening:
(...) but I know quite well when to lift/brake earlier/change line to avoid crashes...

Yep, some don't care for nothing.
I made a few races. It was chaotic but I found nice battles too.

91mason91

10th April 2009, 22:04

Lol tried to race this morning and got mugged twice in 2 races at Turn1 :schwitz:

jasonmatthews

10th April 2009, 22:27

Well I think it will take a few days to sort itself out. The FOX server is much cleaner now we have banned a few people who were wrecking and everyone has got to know eachother. I hope the same will be true for the GTi server. We just need to find the idiots who ruin it for everyone else, then get rid of them. You can all help by saving the replays and making a report.

Crashgate3

11th April 2009, 10:08

Had a go on this last night, and it was great fun, it's really got me back into playing LFS. There were a few arseholes about, but top marks to Turkey and the other admins for sitting there and fishing out the wreckers.

EliteAti

11th April 2009, 10:09

Was good fun although some races should have been in CAD derby server.

mcintyrej

11th April 2009, 10:15

I agree with Turkey saying that the FOX server has calmed down a bit, I was on last night and for the most part it was great clean racing. I also think the GTi server will calm down, once all the nubs go back to their cruise and drag servers! (I'm not saying that all cruisers and draggers are crap by the way.)

1993weeman

11th April 2009, 10:20

My impressions for this evening:

It´s not the the track, it´s the driver(s) fault. Divebombing, not giving room in narrow situations, pushing the car infront under braking etc..it´s all unrelated from the choosen track.

Same goes for AS7 (some people even dont know the track) or blackwood (everyone immediately switched to hotlap-mode, read above)

I´m not that fast on these combos, but I know quite well when to lift/brake earlier/change line to avoid crashes...

Yeah your right there. People do just go out like if its hotlapping when it ain't, its a race. It does have something to do with SO5, because all the times i have raced on that track in the GTi Server or CTRA, there was always a crash in T1 and T2. I think it makes the drivers divebomb more.

As you said your good at missing crashes, well i think thats all you need to do and you will get up the gird quite fast.

bunder9999

11th April 2009, 10:24

It does have something to do with SO5, because all the times i have raced on that track in the GTi Server or CTRA, there was always a crash in T1 and T2. I think it makes the drivers divebomb more.

the long run from the start line to T1 perhaps? (is T1 the slow left-hander, or the slight left bend after the start line? if the latter, then I mean T2)

1993weeman

11th April 2009, 17:52

the long run from the start line to T1 perhaps? (is T1 the slow left-hander, or the slight left bend after the start line? if the latter, then I mean T2)

The slow left hander. So T2 but i did get involved in a big crash in the fast left hander.

ACCAkut

11th April 2009, 20:54

Now all we need is a 32 slot LFR server :D (there is none apart from the Drift ones)

Bean0

11th April 2009, 21:06

Now all we need is a 32 slot LFR server :D (there is none apart from the Drift ones)

I could enable the FZ and RAC on our LX server easily enough, it's pretty unused apart from LX Nights on Thursdays.

jasonmatthews

11th April 2009, 21:13

I thought Concept already did a public LX server?

pearcy_2k7

11th April 2009, 21:17

Id like to apologise for a very heated moment last night, after being taken out all day added with my crap connection, being driven into 3 times in 1 and 1/2 laps by someone just not using their brain, i totally lost it. So, sorry. :)

Bean0

11th April 2009, 21:51

I thought Concept already did a public LX server?

Aye, it's empty apart from Thursdays though.
If adding FZ50 and RAC as he suggests gets some use, I'm all for it...I'm a big FZ50 fan anyways :D

Töki (HUN)

11th April 2009, 22:05

What happened to the server?

jasonmatthews

11th April 2009, 22:07

500 servers problem, Franky is working on it, shouldn't be long i hope.

ACCAkut

11th April 2009, 22:21

I could enable the FZ and RAC on our LX server easily enough, it's pretty unused apart from LX Nights on Thursdays.

that would be nice, got kicked from a drift server for hotlapping the RAC round FE Black this evening :razz:

Their really is/was no server racing it (including the hundred of empty ones):(

Tomson(FIN)

12th April 2009, 12:55

Nice races again :thumb:
Only problem was, that peoples started to have huge kick/ban/crash
partys in there :D It doesnt matter who they vote or what reason, always someone get kicked/banned.

bunder9999

12th April 2009, 13:03

Nice races again :thumb:
Only problem was, that peoples started to have huge kick/ban/crash
partys in there :D It doesnt matter who they vote or what reason, always someone get kicked/banned.

tell the sheeple to stop pressing 1? :shrug:

Tomson(FIN)

12th April 2009, 15:31

tell the sheeple to stop pressing 1? :shrug:

Already tried, they dont care if someone crashed or not. Pressing 1 all the time. I think the best option would be to take hole voting away from server..

CSF

12th April 2009, 15:37

I went on server and banned the few that were just vote banning for no real reason. It was a joke watching it from remote, and warnings were not heeded, so bye bye. :)

trebor901

12th April 2009, 15:39

a few that stuck out for starting vote bans earlier today were the 2 Prodrive guys. If anyone so much as nudged them, they started a vote kick or ban.

Ady_Romania

12th April 2009, 15:54

a few that stuck out for starting vote bans earlier today were the 2 Prodrive guys. If anyone so much as nudged them, they started a vote kick or ban.

Lock at replay end you see why vote kick or ban :scratchch

boothy

13th April 2009, 03:30

Some absolutely brilliant racing with those from SR and many others, it's great when you can talk to the people you're racing - and those who you're pressuring to overtake - and even better when the whole place bursts into laughter as Passo shows how a 4-wide at South City just doesn't work! :D:thumb:

Replay, 3 laps in, if you want see this "epic fail"! (http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?ttyyzzv2lhz) :tilt:

Mp3 Astra

13th April 2009, 03:33

For the record, the XRG that I was trying to pass had previously bumped me out of the way, and I was voiciferously going for revenge. My last words to him in Ventrilo were 'oh no, Jason's going wide. I'd better try and get....'

AMB

13th April 2009, 13:33

Great racing today and WR's broken :thumb:

CSF

13th April 2009, 13:34

Emo tactics. :D

Töki (HUN)

13th April 2009, 13:40

Nah... My ping is fine but I time out all the time. :(

Chrisuu01

13th April 2009, 13:43

Nah... My ping is fine but I time out all the time. :(
I had that isseu yesterday to its real weird:(

jasonmatthews

13th April 2009, 18:09

This weeks points have been awarded - http://www.sonicrealmsracing.co.uk/gtiracing.php

AMB

13th April 2009, 18:25

Nice :thumb: Kenneth pwning at topz.

ScarySquirrel

15th April 2009, 09:32

I love this server!

TysCaargh

16th April 2009, 23:37

Brilliant server. Late at night you can have some really good racing there. Lots of respectful people on. Pleasure doing business;)

pearcy_2k7

17th April 2009, 00:15

Damn, i thought id been there quite a bit, obviously not. More wins it is then :D Would be nice if we could see top list's too :)

SparkyDave

17th April 2009, 21:08

Language/Swear filter is'nt working on this server :x

Please fix :)

SD.

Töki (HUN)

18th April 2009, 14:39

Guys, do something with the server please, it's horribly laggy.

jasonmatthews

18th April 2009, 15:04

Restarted it, should be ok now, thanks for the heads up :thumb:

pearcy_2k7

18th April 2009, 19:15

The concept is good but the server sucks, very laggy and my FPS drops to about 16-30, everything is noisy when i look outside the car, never had that ever before. I think you need to change server provider if you want it to suceed.

Jordan2007

18th April 2009, 20:06

A Lot of crashing on the server, including me as of reacting to being taken out! but seriously the hole field was crashing on the first lap, even First place got taken out.

(That was only on the rally track though)

Any other track over than rally, it was mint.

Good Server, Reminded me of CTRA

Töki (HUN)

18th April 2009, 20:14

Most of these crashes are caused by lag, IMO. A small contact is enough and half of the pace is flying. Good server really, but this lag is a bit weird.

Jordan2007

18th April 2009, 20:19

As Quoted from BRT On Skype 'It was Banger racing'

(2 Minutes later he got banned for crashing)

Its weird for me because usually i lagg with 30 odd on the grid but strangly i didnt..

ACCAkut

20th April 2009, 07:39

It's hard to survive a race when you start at the back. There was for example a german guy who crashed me out three times at the same spot (AS Cadet rev, entrance corkscrew), I asked him why and he answered (in german) "because you are a noob !!!111"

He did leave shortly after, but there are tons of similar users online, I think its a server many new S2 users join because they think to know how to race the GTi :shrug:

zeugnimod

21st April 2009, 11:17

Mp3 Astra

21st April 2009, 11:19

If you see things like that please file a report here (http://www.sonicrealmsracing.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=1970.0).

'Aye, some very good moderation going on there. I don't know how much time you guys have, but all reports are dealt with nice and quickly!

DracoN

21st April 2009, 13:14

yes! meh got banned there already. for ignoring blue flag. damn, i have to slow down to let a slower car get by and be in my way? ...

AMB

21st April 2009, 13:30

yes! meh got banned there already. for ignoring blue flag. damn, i have to slow down to let a slower car get by and be in my way? ...

Find a clear space to join, or don't rejoin at all.

zeugnimod

21st April 2009, 13:58

yes! meh got banned there already. for ignoring blue flag. damn, i have to slow down to let a slower car get by and be in my way? ...

You were the slowest car on the grid and you were all over the place causing several crashes. Please don't lie. :)

bunder9999

21st April 2009, 19:32

so many noobs... i don't know how many people crashed into me in 3-4 races. :shrug:

i admit i'm not perfect either, but omg, it's ctra race 1 all over again. :(

Mp3 Astra

21st April 2009, 19:55

so many noobs... i don't know how many people crashed into me in 3-4 races. :shrug:

i admit i'm not perfect either, but omg, it's ctra race 1 all over again. :(

Report!

bunder9999

21st April 2009, 20:15

Report!

why should i register on yet-another-forum just to report someone? there's 3 or 4 SR guys on there... :shrug:

i have the replays if someone is willing to review them, but i won't post them here.

CSF

21st April 2009, 20:17

why should i register on yet-another-forum just to report someone? there's 3 or 4 SR guys on there... :shrug:

i have the replays if someone is willing to review them, but i won't post them here.

Did you ever report on CTRA, or just complain that there were people ruining your races? :shrug:

Not all SR members hold the admin passwords to the FOX and GTi server.

J@tko

21st April 2009, 20:20

Not all SR members hold the admin passwords to the FOX and GTi server.
And even 4 people can miss incidents :(

[Especially if one of them is Chris :D]

CSF

21st April 2009, 20:26

At least I am not at dinner every 5 minutes. :smileypul

J@tko

21st April 2009, 20:40

At least I am not at dinner every 5 minutes. :smileypul
/me goes to think of a comeback :D

bunder9999

21st April 2009, 20:51

Did you ever report on CTRA, or just complain that there were people ruining your races? :shrug:

since there were only a few tards on the uf-br server, i only had to file four (or five, around there) reports in my brief ctra career. two of which were still pending when ctra closed. :shrug:

edit: in the meantime, i've sent a pm to zeug with my text report. if he wants the replays, i'll put them somewhere.

Mp3 Astra

21st April 2009, 21:07

It's worth signing up at the forum in order to report wrecking. Think of it as spring cleaning. For the greater good and all that.

X_Deaf_Monkey_X

21st April 2009, 21:10

HI I was just banned from your GTi server for "revenge wrecking" SEVERAL (3 or 4) races in a row, a racer rammed me out of the way for position. Instead of actually racing, he would go off track just to get by me. The last time he did it, was the 2nd to last turn on Blackwood. I was all the way on the INSIDE, and he went ON THE GRASS and hit me mid-turn, OBVIOUSLY deliberately. I had notified an admin on the server about his actions, but nothing was being done???? The admin knew what this racer was doing, but chose not to kick him even after SEVERAL races of him ramming me and other people??? The last race he did it, I rammed him back in the next turn to get my position back. The admin then banned me for revenge wrecking?!?!? This is REALLY UNFAIR. What was I supposed to do, just let the kid ram me every race without consequence??? I came to LFS from iRacing to get away from the serious-ness on that sim, only to find kids like this breaking server rules without consequence. I really would like to get unbanned as I feel my ban was NOT justified. I enjoy racing the slower cars (XFG and XRT) and your server is ALWAYS full.

Figured I would post this here as well as your forums...

Xaid0n

21st April 2009, 21:28

Enjoyed a few races on the server, can't say I've had any problems with lag myself, though other people were quite laggy.

Also had a couple of issues with a few drivers being stupid when blocking, but i tended to keep out of their way on the next race.

Overall a good server :) deffo be going back on!

S14 DRIFT

21st April 2009, 21:30

JohnPenn

21st April 2009, 22:05

Revenge wreckers are the lowest of the low In LFS, selfish acts by selfish people.

X_Deaf_Monkey_X

21st April 2009, 22:08

Revenge wreckers are the lowest of the low In LFS, selfish acts by selfish people.

O RLY? Even when they are wrecked intentionally by other people? I don't see how revenge wrecking is worse than being wrecked intentionally. Your statement may be true if the 1st wreck was accidental, but in my case it/they were not.

JohnPenn

21st April 2009, 22:13

Yes ...think about it, imagine what would happen if everyone acted like you? report them with a replay to support you complaint make the server a little better, bring something to table.

X_Deaf_Monkey_X

21st April 2009, 22:14

yes really

Well I'll find you in a server sometime and I'll make friends with teh admins and I will wreck you race after race and we'll see what you do.... :rolleyes:

ACCAkut

21st April 2009, 22:17

yes really

mhh, sometimes a little push on the grass brings these wreckers back on to reality, and they may leave if someone takes revenge. Doing nothing is imo (from what I obserbed) the worst, they won't stop till they're bored :shrug:

JohnPenn

21st April 2009, 22:22

Well I'll find you in a server sometime and I'll make friends with teh admins and I will wreck you race after race and we'll see what you do.... :rolleyes:

I know what I would do:thumb:

JohnPenn

21st April 2009, 22:30

[QUOTE=ACCAkut;1138551]mhh, sometimes a little push on the grass brings these wreckers back on to reality, and they may leave if someone takes revenge. Doing nothing is imo (from what I obserbed) the worst, they won't stop till they're bored :shrug:[/QUOTE

But the point is you can do something that will not just make you feel better at the time, but will help to weed out LFS users who are not on the server to race,revenge wrecking doesn't work its part the problem not the answer to it.

evilpimp

21st April 2009, 22:45

From reading your little report your actions were in my mind justified. Bollocks to all this "oh my god revenge wrecking so badz0r11!!!!", if admins are present and nothing is being done, people take actions into their own hands, as is so often the case in real life with the police and government etc..

I for one hope you get unbanned but it wouldn't surprise me if you didn't. Laughable admining most of the time, unfortunately.. there's never a happy medium. :shrug:
Someone steals from your house, you steal from theirs? Or do you call the police? If you do steal back chances are they'll call the police...

Here someone wrecks you, you tell an admin or report it. If you wreck him back, your not any better then him, you're still wrecking and should face the consequences.

trebor901

21st April 2009, 22:45

Admins that go on arent there necessarily to admin, thats what the report process is for, they're there to have fun like anyone else. Over the past week ive had people moaning at me that im not banning people but what people dont realise is that not all SR member have got admin rights and rightly so. If you have problems just report it in the GTI Server report thread on the forums, dont come here bitching because no one has done anything about somebody that wrecked you. It doesnt get anyone anywhere.

Also ive witnessed people who normally race really well taking matter into their own hands and getting "revenge" on the person that either hit them off or spun them in the previous race, its just not necessary.

S14 DRIFT

21st April 2009, 22:46

John while I otherwise respect your nice personality and mature stance on most things I have to say that if someone is CONSTANTLY and PERSISTENTLY wrecking you, that a normal man may eventually snap!

I agree it's not any better than wrecking itself, but if the admins won't do anything (as in this case they knew of the issue but were too PC to bother typing /ban moron 99999), and it's causing a problem race after race then it may be necessary to sort the problem yourself. :x

Someone steals from your house, you steal from theirs? Or do you call the police? If you do steal back chances are they'll call the police...

Here someone wrecks you, you tell an admin or report it. If you wreck him back, your not any better then him, you're still wrecking and should face the consequences.

If someone steals from me (something of value, like my bike), and I know who it is, I would either take a sledgehammer to their face or otherwise render them completely broken to the world. Why? Well the police never do anything anyway.

It seems that in this case that the user in question DID report it to an admin who was apparently fully aware of the situation but did nothing. So taking your police example, a policeman sees someone being mugged and stands by idly. Now while you may indeed sit there, I'd be first to jump in and help..

As for reports, well, see CTRA...

trebor901

21st April 2009, 22:53

John while I otherwise respect your nice personality and mature stance on most things I have to say that if someone is CONSTANTLY and PERSISTENTLY wrecking you, that a normal man may eventually snap!

I agree it's not any better than wrecking itself, but if the admins won't do anything (as in this case they knew of the issue but were too PC to bother typing /ban moron 99999), and it's causing a problem race after race then it may be necessary to sort the problem yourself. :x

If someone steals from me (something of value, like my bike), and I know who it is, I would either take a sledgehammer to their face or otherwise render them completely broken to the world. Why? Well the police never do anything anyway.

It seems that in this case that the user in question DID report it to an admin who was apparently fully aware of the situation but did nothing. So taking your police example, a policeman sees someone being mugged and stands by idly. Now while you may indeed sit there, I'd be first to jump in and help..

As for reports, well, see CTRA...

Yeah.... because everyone has the knowledge etc. to create a system that handles all the reports etc. as well (or not that well) as CTRA did. Then you get the problem of idiots abusing it and reporting anyone and everyone for as much as being nudged and passed. If you had your own server, your telling me you would interupt your race because someone would rather you sat there 24/7 watching over everyone and giving the morons a ban or a warning?

S14 DRIFT

21st April 2009, 22:57

Well Rob, to be fair when I said "CTRA" I meant that the report system soon ****ed up and became irrelevant. I didn't mean create a system in the same vain. I meant how it totally failed. (Not saying CTRA sucked or anything go away flamers)

If it were my server it'd be a "one chance and then you're out" kind of thing. If the server I was running was that busy I'd get some regular admins (maybe 10 or 12, most likely from my team, Sonic has so many members there's no real excuse!). There's too much of the "oh ok you get 3 warnings" crap because people who can't drive safely don't magically become clean drivers after being given a virtual warning. Just ban the ****ers and let the clean(er) drivers enjoy the environment.

Just my 2c anyway.

trebor901

21st April 2009, 22:59

yes but not everyone has the time to sit and admin a server all the time and most of the active SR member's either race during the day and during the evenings on either the GTI Server or FOX server. I know there is a report team who sit and read through all the reports and then watch replays and hand out the relevant bans/warnings but what else there is i honestly dont know as im not involved in the whole admin thing. You'd have to ask one of the team leaders about that.

pearcy_2k7

21st April 2009, 22:59

S14 DRIFT

21st April 2009, 23:06

LoL! Jamie, some of the people that tend to steal things, tend to have big, agressive families, usually the most case is, its not them thats the problem its who they know. I know the guy that tried to steal my bike a while back but hes a gypsie, knows where my grandad lives so i won't do anything through fear for me and my family especially seen as he couldn't manage to do it anyway, karma is the solution to the worlds problems and one day he WILL get whats coming to him, maybe not from me but someone will.

I agree. But big and aggression will tend to stop if they find someone bigger than them. Bunch of kids beating you up at school? Because maybe you don't do anything? Smack them back and show them you won't take it and 99% of the time they'll leave you alone.

Same in LFS he will get whats coming to him, can't say i haven't taken things into my own hands on that server a few times , but nothing major, is someone pushes me onto the grass ill turn into them to tell them im there. If someone wrecked me, id report it. When revenge wrecking, you need some descression, don't do somethng back that could get YOU banned, simple.

I do agree, maybe you misunderstood my point. :shrug: I'm not saying it's right and that it solves anything, but generally it'll make the other guy just leave you alone. After all, he obviously won't get banned. (!)

Gil07

21st April 2009, 23:29

X_Deaf_Monkey_X

21st April 2009, 23:44

OK guys, let me clear this up for you :)

Revenge wrecking is NOT allowed on any SR server, and will not be. If you have a problem with someone, report him on our forum, with a replay! SR members often go on the server to race too, you know ;)

In this case, the "other guy", was banned too, after someone supplied replays of him ;)

Well I guess that's good. I wasn't even aware of the report thread on your forums.. oh well. Now how do I go about finding how long my ban is?

OZRacing

21st April 2009, 23:45

the server is like empty :shrug:
i swear there were like 30 ppl in there yesterday at this time

Gil07

21st April 2009, 23:48

I was racing just moments ago, and suddenly everyone left... I guess everyone has important stuff to do tomorrow morning :D

bunder9999

21st April 2009, 23:52

I guess everyone has important stuff to do tomorrow morning :D

not me! :razz:

z-ro 8

21st April 2009, 23:56

live adminning is not as easy as it seems.

[sr] has gone through the painstaking efforts of having a report sytem-so use it.

if someone is giving you hell on track spectate. save the replay, notify an admin that may be speccing also, and wait for the next race.

chances are if a wrecker is up yer ass for more than a lap yer not doing too well anyway, so save yer efforts for the next one.

my 2 cents.....

zeugnimod

22nd April 2009, 00:10

I agree it's not any better than wrecking itself, but if the admins won't do anything (as in this case they knew of the issue but were too PC to bother typing /ban moron 99999)

It seems that in this case that the user in question DID report it to an admin who was apparently fully aware of the situation but did nothing.

The "report" consisted of "tell xxx to chill, he hit me twice". Which I did and told him I would have a look at the replay later since that one sentence doesn't look as if xxx is a bad wrecker, does it? I got no reply to that.

After the next race, UberDeafOne tells me to check the replay for xxx's "move" in the second to last corner which I promptly do. It is indeed quite a bad move. The user in question does receive a ban for this (and several other instances of dirty driving). But I keep watching and am pretty surprised to see UberDeafOne "revenge wrecking" driver xxx in the last corner. I go back to the server and immediately ban UberDeafOne for this since revenge wrecking is not tolerated at all on our servers.

So tell me, what would you have done in this case instead of the laughable admin who is too PC to ban?

As for reports, well, see CTRA...

As for reports, well, see our forum (http://www.sonicrealmsracing.co.uk/forum/index.php?board=16.0) and show me the reports that haven't been dealt with.

Well I guess that's good. I wasn't even aware of the report thread on your forums.. oh well. Now how do I go about finding how long my ban is?

Read this (http://www.sonicrealmsracing.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=1970.msg30861#msg30861).

Oh, and this is everything that has to be said on the case of revenge wrecking:

Revenge wreckers are the lowest of the low In LFS, selfish acts by selfish people.

pearcy_2k7

22nd April 2009, 00:38

I agree. But big and aggression will tend to stop if they find someone bigger than them. Bunch of kids beating you up at school? Because maybe you don't do anything? Smack them back and show them you won't take it and 99% of the time they'll leave you alone.

I do agree, maybe you misunderstood my point. :shrug: I'm not saying it's right and that it solves anything, but generally it'll make the other guy just leave you alone. After all, he obviously won't get banned. (!)

You couldn't have got it more wrong actually but im not going into anything because you made a dumb assumption, its no-ones business and it would take quite a while to type.

S14 DRIFT

22nd April 2009, 06:33

The Very End

22nd April 2009, 07:39

Had some great racing on the server yesterday :)
Too bad there was these morons that never learns to brake. I swear, of the 3-4 races I raced there, with 8 laps, I at least got hit in the ass three-four times in every one of them. Why canot people learn? People are so damn selfish and don't brake because then they know they just can push me off the road and they gain a higher position. If I were admin on that server there would be MANY warnings and bans yesterday.

So, zeug and you other, you need to be more active and give out warnings, because as it was yesterday it was shit. I had some good racing by great people, but sadly it gets overshadowed by all the absolutle brainscrewed idiots that hit you in the ass on every lap on same spot (T2) .

SparkyDave

22nd April 2009, 07:57

Well this thread has taken a strange turn :)

The GTI server is a great place to race but as some have mentioned the standard of racing in general can be poor, but near the front of the grid there is some very good drivers racing clean.

I don't know who in SR are admins but reading this thread it looks like some SR members (like Zeug) are of the "revenge wreckers should be banned with the wreckers" belief a hard line stance but I do happen to agree with :)
then others (like S14Daft) seem to think revenge wrecking is quite OK as long as its to "teach them a lesson" and posting about being more agressive than the next guy etc, shocking reading.

It is very frustrating joining the server, starting at the back and getting bumped and shoved all race but "teaching someone a lesson" cannot be achieved but repeating their actions and revenge wrecking.

Last time I found the racing at this server alot cleaner than the language, if it were up to me (and its not lol) I would 1 hour bann for swearing also.

SD.

The Very End

22nd April 2009, 08:03

Not 1 hour for swearing, but a 15 minute ban with message "cooldown time. Go grab a snack and come back when your in better mood" would be cool :)

Now, I did had great racing there, specially in front, but problem is when you are at front and the one behind you bumps you so you lose the line and you go down 3-5 positions. Then when you try to advance trought the field there is NO way to get thorught it without blood and tears shattered. If you try to pass clean people will wreck you, if you are driving carefully to not hit the car in front of you - you will be wrecked by the one behind, and GOD hope you not trying to drive agressively because that JUST doesn't work and you'll find yourselfe in a world of shit lol.

So please, keep an extra eye on people, and give out more active warnings. Lets say 2-3 warnings and you get a little ban. I am not beeing a much of ban fan, but people that clearly canot drive in a pack canot be on this server, they are creating so much problem, and if they canot see that they lack the abilites needed for racing on such a server, well then someone has to "guide" them off the server so they can practie elsewhere.

But that is my opinion, and I am not fan of "eye for a eye" attitute. But I swear I have been tempted when the same person ran into my ass 3 laps after eachothers without saying sorry.

zeugnimod

22nd April 2009, 08:29

Well Ziggy, I would have banned the other dude who cut across the grass to hit off this dude.

That's exactly what I did. Read my post.

Revenge wrecking may be selfish but if you have to do it in order to get a clean race out then hey, so be it.

This sentence is so ridiculous I can't even find proper words to comment it. :rolleyes:

Am I right in thinking you don't ban without seeing a valid report?

No. Again, read my post. Do you always go around posting crap without reading the threads you post in?

So, zeug and you other, you need to be more active and give out warnings, because as it was yesterday it was shit. I had some good racing by great people, but sadly it gets overshadowed by all the absolutle brainscrewed idiots that hit you in the ass on every lap on same spot (T2) .

So, TVE and you other, you need to be more active and do reports. :shrug:

The Very End

22nd April 2009, 09:05

Noooes, not the responsebilities :(
Oh ok, guess we'll all have to do the work.. Hookay, I'll start reporting things if I see something worth taking action against.

bully2100

22nd April 2009, 10:05

NotAnIllusion

22nd April 2009, 11:09

i have been visiting the GTI server recently, mainly a SS driver....

just a quick question, why does it seem as tho drivers using auto gears/auto clutch etc have so much of and advantage over hshifting manual clutch etc, or is it more to do with the driver? i havent driven alot using fwd/hshift/clutch in lfs, normally im sequentional using single seaters and am normally on a decent pace, but gti's.... g25 user, any help would be appreciated.

SB
- Manual gears always >> auto gears
- Sequential > H-shift (imo)
- auto clutch exploit > all other clutch modes
- manual clutch > auto clutch
- flatshifting > lifting off (if the clutch lasts)

Personally I'd say unless you're consistently matching alien laptimes, go with what's the most fun. If you're really intent on being alien quick, you might have to sacrifice some realism / immersion to maximise laptime gain.

bully2100

22nd April 2009, 11:47

- Manual gears always >> auto gears
- Sequential > H-shift (imo)
- auto clutch exploit > all other clutch modes
- manual clutch > auto clutch
- flatshifting > lifting off (if the clutch lasts)

cheers m8, id agree with that 100%... so flatshifting, i see this alot with all types of vehicle in lfs,an advantage is def gained when doing this(i do use it in FOX), but irl is this such a case?i feel a car, say a sporty hatch, wouldnt last very long, so why is it allowed in gti's?, with no real punishment (clutch), its not possible in the FBM(not in all gears) ,im no driving expert btw, just curious? im def faster with seq gears in the GTI's, but should it be allowed? i cant use Hshifter in a FOX,FO8,BF1 so should i be allowed seq in a GTI? or am i just being petty :-)

[SR] Keith

22nd April 2009, 16:37

Well Ziggy, I would have banned the other dude who cut across the grass to hit off this dude. Revenge wrecking may be selfish but if you have to do it in order to get a clean race out then hey, so be it.

Well I tell you what...

Why don't YOU buy/hire a couple of servers out of your own pocket, form a team, create a website and build up enough goodwill to recruit other racers who will give up their own free time to help you administer reports and such... and then perhaps you can talk.

As it is, Zeug and the other guys do a fantastic job of providing as good an experience as possible on servers which are full almost 24/7. As has been said already, only a handful of the team have been given Admin and banning rights for those servers, and these guys do this in their spare time, so credit where credit's due and let's not troll about how you would do it sooo much better - because until you do, you're all talk frankly.

As for revenge wrecking - it comes down to this... We don't want it on OUR servers. Ours. Paid for by us out of our own pockets. Understand?

Do it and there's a very good chance you will get banned, end of story. Don't like that, you know what to do. Wrecking WILL get the wrecker banned If an admin sees it and/or IF YOU REPORT IT*. We make every effort to be fair and timely in our response, so you have no-one to blame but yourself if you don't follow the procedures we've put in place to ensure the cleanest, fairest servers we can possibly make them.

*the reporting system is hosted on our website because they're our servers. We don't have any moderation control over the LFS forum, so it's only right and proper that the reporting system (with the attendant bandwith usage and uploading of replays storage) be on our website and forum too. Let's not forget - at the end of the day, you are on OUR servers as a guest at our expense. You're more than welcome to use any other servers if you don't like the way ours are run...

Now, how's about instead of bitching about any server not being just about perfect in every conceivable way, you actually give a little bit of thanks for someone/anyone in the community prepared to provide you biatches with somewhere to race and actually make an effort to administer the server and process reports at all...?

That's better. You're welcome. :)

jasonmatthews

22nd April 2009, 17:30

All this from an immature, attention seeking forum whore who hasn't even been on our servers more than once afaik, S14 Daft, do yourself a favour and stfu. I, and 90% of the LFS community are getting quite sick and tired of your crap posts talking about things you know nothing about in threads you have absolutely no business in. I also remember you being the biggest critic of CTRA, even though you raced there every day and probably contributed to it's downfall with your constant complaining... :nod:

FYI, we have around 13 admins for 2 servers and I usually watch and warn people 15 hours a day. We are always watching via remote and all someone has to do is make us aware of someone we should watch, which we will do. You also have the report system, vote kick and vote ban. So if you seriosuly think all these measures are not enough then there is simply no hope for you...

I wasn't around yesterday but I can assure anyone who races on our servers that our admin team were VERY carefully selected for their fairness and have dealt with all wreckers as fast as possible. I don't think 1 single report has not been dealt with within an hour or two, not bad eh??

S14 DRIFT

22nd April 2009, 17:40

Well firstly let me say I'd debate every single ****ing point by everyone but my day has been less than peachy and having just got back from work, I cba. So I'll just deal with you. (Jason)

All this from an immature, attention seeking forum whore who hasn't even been on our servers more than once afaik, S14 Daft, do yourself a favour and stfu.

If you're going to be an egotistical forum member (hey I can insult you too!), I've been on your servers maybe 3 or 4 times. Infact I've hardly been on LFS for the last 2 months because of an accident, as well as work and personal relationships meaning I no longer sit behind my computer for 24 hours a day.

I, and 90% of the LFS community are getting quite sick and tired of your crap posts talking about things you know nothing about in threads you have absolutely no business in.

It's on a public forum and it's a public thread. I have every right to post, and it's not even often I post complete bullshit other than my opinion (hey maybe they are the same, inb4u)... It's not like I march in and spam huge oversized images of a copy pasted image or post a played out 4chan meme in EVERY post. Besides as I've said SO many times, if you don't like what I have to say then you can add me to your ignore list!

I also remember you being the biggest critic of CTRA, even though you raced there every day and probably contributed to it's downfall with your constant complaining... :nod:

That's right, please do blame me for the collapse of a racing system I was proud to be able to race in, having spent probably 60% of my total LFS mileage on the CTRA/STCC servers.. meeting some great people and finding a few new friends, and generally having a laugh. I hasten to add I won most of the races.

'Biggest critic' is at best, an overstatement, and at worst, a ****ing downright piece of A-grade bullshit. The collapse had much more to do with the lack of motivation from the UKCT staff (and overload on Sams behalf, yes even I can understand that).. than 3 (yes, that's right, 3 out of say 1540503084738) reports I had that were awaiting review/action. I wasn't even overly bothered as I stopped caring whether the people who deserved a ban were banned anyway. (if you see what I mean)

-marketing your server

Nice to know!

</rant mode>

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Edits, more in general..

1)

As for well why don't I make a server. Simple reason is I don't have to and I haven't. However you(r team) have. Don't expect everyone to bow over and kiss ass just because you have an active server. People are entitled to an opinion and as such you should expect a few harsh comments, I wouldn't even consider mine rude!

To sparkydave :

Don't wish to sound like I'm blowing my own trumpet but while I am an aggressive driver, I'm not 'dirty' and I try to be as fair as possible without sacrificing any speed. Don't take my words out of context, I only think that if a PERSISTENT and CONSTANT wrecker who is not being delt with swiftly by admins who are present should be given their own medicine for a change. It's not like I'm PROMOTING active revenge wrecking for little taps..

jasonmatthews

22nd April 2009, 17:53

Ummm, correct if I'm wrong but people usually make an opinion after actually trying something, not before. Why don't you please stop spamming our thread and go play somewhere else :thumb:

S14 DRIFT

22nd April 2009, 17:57

Ummm, correct if I'm wrong but people usually make an opinion after actually trying something, not before. Why don't you please stop spamming our thread and go play somewhere else :thumb:

As I responded to you in your PM, I hope we can now draw a close on this matter as I concur it's unfair to dig heels in your garden, so to speak. If anyone else has anything to say (unlikely) send it in PM as I'm done in this thread.

zeugnimod

22nd April 2009, 18:03

[SR] Keith

22nd April 2009, 18:21

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S14 DRIFT

22nd April 2009, 19:03

As I said I was done, but that's frankly rather immature. :really:

Personally I think you're a ***** but that doesn't matter.

pearcy_2k7

22nd April 2009, 19:14

5 letter swear word, *thinks* :scratchch

Mackie The Staggie

22nd April 2009, 19:33

In an attempt to play the role of Koffie Anan here (and by that i don't mean allegedly misappropriate some monies :schwitz:)

SR servers have stepped up to fill a void, and understandably will attract many drivers on. It is unfortunate, but driver will be drawn to whatever is busy, and you'll at times get some 'A' grade Muppet (last night there was a guy drifting in front of me....sharp blast of the horn and he quickly halted) It's not possible for admins to be on % all the time, they will also wish to race.

As for the incident in question, there is a high chance that those SR drivers that were on, and did not have any admin powers. This point has been made before, but I feel some have not been able to take it on board. As such they can do little to ban the wrecker immediately, however as far as I'm aware the vote to kick option is still available.

But because there seems to be no action taken, does not mean that those SR drivers have not reported it, or have not seen it. Remember, some sim racers have a life outside of the PC (strange I know....I would like to know where they got it).

Just because action is being taken as quickly as you would like, does not mean revenge wrecking should be an option. Revenge wrecking is one of the lowest actions a sim racer could take.

So to some up.......chill out and race for poops and giggles guys. :shrug:

jasonmatthews

22nd April 2009, 19:38

One more point I think needs to be made. It is wise for us to not admin at all while racing as this can lead to emotional decisions. It is better for the racers to admin the servers themselves as much as possible, by using the vote kick/ban option and the report system. Most of the people in the servers now have had time to know who they can trust etc, and if a respected racer says driver X is a wrecker, usually they get voted out of the servers pretty sharpish. This is something that you couldn't do with CTRA, and if used correctly does work well.

bunder9999

22nd April 2009, 22:04

if a respected racer says driver X is a wrecker, usually they get voted out of the servers pretty sharpish.

on the flip side, you get people who vote for no reason and muppets keep pressing 1. :shrug:

(i'm not saying that happens at SR, but what server with voting enabled doesn't have this problem?)

X_Deaf_Monkey_X

23rd April 2009, 05:47

Just because action is being taken as quickly as you would like, does not mean revenge wrecking should be an option. Revenge wrecking is one of the lowest actions a sim racer could take.
I don't think anyone is understanding what I am saying.. I am new to LFS, I didn't even know what revenge wrecking was before I got banned (if you were in the server at the time you probably saw me ask what's revenge wrecking right before I got banned) I wasn't aware of the website/forum and the ability to report people, HELL I didn't even know how to save a replay! I informed an admin of the person wrecking me several times per race, and it went on for 3-4 races. He was never kicked so I assumed the admins weren't doing anything about it. I think a 2 week ban is just ridiculous for a 1st time offense, also considering I AM NEW TO LFS and didn't know about anything!

menantoll

23rd April 2009, 06:10

New to lfs? 20 months, you consider to be new? Or did you first get the demo 20 months ago and only recently came back and bought an s2 licence?

I wasn't aware of the website/forum and the ability to report peopleSo you noticed the chat in the top left, you even know how to add to the chat in the top left but you failed to spot the reminder of where to go to report people which appears frequently in a different colour!. Pull the other one.

Man up, accept your ban and learn from it.

X_Deaf_Monkey_X

23rd April 2009, 06:12

New to lfs? 20 months, you consider to be new? Or did you first get the demo 20 months ago and only recently came back and bought an s2 licence?

So you noticed the chat in the top left, you even know how to add to the chat in the top left but you failed to spot the reminder of where to go to report people which appears frequently in a different colour!. Pull the other one.

Man up, accept your ban and learn from it.

yes I had the demo for a while but rarely played. I bought S2 back in January but started playing iRacing the very next day.

And no I never noticed the streaming? chat things.

menantoll

23rd April 2009, 06:19

And no I never noticed the streaming? chat things.

Yet earlier you wrote

if you were in the server at the time you probably saw me ask what's revenge wrecking right before I got bannedWhats that I can smell?

Short bans are handed out to give people time to reflect on their actions and come back with a better attitude. Personally, after your weak excuses I would extend your ban as it is plain that you are unable to do that. Luckily for you I have nothing to do with [SR]

Mackie The Staggie

23rd April 2009, 08:16

I don't think anyone is understanding what I am saying.. I am new to LFS, I didn't even know what revenge wrecking was before I got banned (if you were in the server at the time you probably saw me ask what's revenge wrecking right before I got banned)
Yet you go on to say 2 posts later that you have played iRacing, so I would guess that you are aware of general sim racing etiquette. One of the big DO NOT DO is wrecking and revenge wrecking….LFS is no different.

I wasn't aware of the website/forum and the ability to report people, HELL I didn't even know how to save a replay!
Well there’s little else that the admins can do, since there is a blatant message at the start of every race.

I informed an admin of the person wrecking me several times per race, and it went on for 3-4 races. He was never kicked so I assumed the admins weren't doing anything about it.
Which leads me to believe that the ‘admin’ you reported it to wasn’t in fact an admin, but SR drivers who have no admin power on the server.

I think a 2 week ban is just ridiculous for a 1st time offense, also considering I AM NEW TO LFS and didn't know about anything
It may seem unfair, but that is life. Learn from it, use it to become a better, safer, more courteous driver and no doubt I will see you on the track in less than a fortnights time.

CSF

23rd April 2009, 08:23

on the flip side, you get people who vote for no reason and muppets keep pressing 1. :shrug:

(i'm not saying that happens at SR, but what server with voting enabled doesn't have this problem?)

If I go on the server to admin I usually turn off vote ban. Occasionally I do go on the server to admin only. Maybe I will do this a bit more now, and give up my racing (Wrecking Gil...) since that seems to be what you all want... :shrug:

zeugnimod

23rd April 2009, 08:39

I don't think anyone is understanding what I am saying.. I am new to LFS, I didn't even know what revenge wrecking was before I got banned (if you were in the server at the time you probably saw me ask what's revenge wrecking right before I got banned)

As I already said on our forum:
Even if you don't know the term "revenge wrecking" you certainly do know that it is not ok to aim for another racer with full throttle right before a corner? Or are you that...unintelligent? :scratchch

I wasn't aware of the website/forum and the ability to report people

You apparently were able to read the chat. Too bad for you, that the link to our site is displayed in the chat at the beginning of every race so your poor excuse isn't valid.

HELL I didn't even know how to save a replay!

You asked how to do it and I told you. Another poor excuse. :)

I informed an admin of the person wrecking me several times per race, and it went on for 3-4 races. He was never kicked so I assumed the admins weren't doing anything about it.

That's just a blatant lie. It was like this, as I already posted:

The "report" consisted of "tell xxx to chill, he hit me twice". Which I did and told him I would have a look at the replay later since that one sentence doesn't look as if xxx is a bad wrecker, does it? I got no reply to that.

After the next race, UberDeafOne tells me to check the replay for xxx's "move" in the second to last corner which I promptly do. It is indeed quite a bad move. The user in question does receive a ban for this (and several other instances of dirty driving). But I keep watching and am pretty surprised to see UberDeafOne "revenge wrecking" driver xxx in the last corner. I go back to the server and immediately ban UberDeafOne for this since revenge wrecking is not tolerated at all on our servers.

I think a 2 week ban is just ridiculous for a 1st time offense, also considering I AM NEW TO LFS and didn't know about anything!

I personally think a 2 week ban for revenge wrecking is far too short. And if it's an action like revenge wrecking it doesn't matter if you are racing in LFS for 10 minutes or 10 years.

danowat

28th April 2009, 08:35

I am (slowly) trying to get back into LFS racing, and had some races on this server last night.

Was a lot of fun, close and clean racing :)

zeugnimod

28th April 2009, 11:27

That's great to hear/read. :thumb:

HVS5b

28th April 2009, 12:20

Just get yourself towards the front of the grid, its pretty clean up there :thumb:

The Very End

28th April 2009, 12:29

Just get yourself towards the front of the grid, its pretty clean up there :thumb:

Give me advice how to pass the 20 others then without sending out 20 reports? :smileypul

jasonmatthews

28th April 2009, 12:30

Quite easy actually. All you have to do is set a fast lap, you will then start 9th in the next race :thumb:

The Very End

28th April 2009, 12:33

It would, but they won't let me do fast laps :p
You know...the people..the backmarkers won't let me... :(

danowat

28th April 2009, 12:34

I found driving the XRG is a good way to escape the XFG masses ;)

The Very End

28th April 2009, 12:42

I might be stupid, but I simply don't get it how to change car changes anything :D
Give me an adice how to survive.

So far I tried the agressive driving way, witch was a total dissaster and resultet in a nice 25 car pileup some days ago. I have tried beeing defencive and really giving room, but then just to find out some people behind me will go full speed into my ass in the first corner. :shrug:

danowat

28th April 2009, 12:44

Because it gets off the line FAR better and quicker than the XFG, even at the back you can pass a good 4 or 5 cars, then just settle in and watch the next few cars take each other out, then proceed to have some nice racing with those at the front :)

Jouman

28th April 2009, 13:09

If i'm starting from the back i prefer a different method to danowats. Start racing lets say after 3-4 corners. So just sit back and observe, don't leave a big cap to the whole group just enough to brake early when you see the big pile up. Usually after 2-3 corners i end up in the middle of the back when avoiding the pile ups. Then just start racing and picking up places one by one ;). (I've had bad luck with that getting off the line with the XRG and getting 4/5 cars in the start, but you might need to find something that works for you.)

5haz

28th April 2009, 16:10

Front wheel drive cars are not worthy of ever coming anywhere near a racing track, unless they happen to be a Mini. :D

shiny_red_cobra

29th April 2009, 01:23

I just stopped in for a few races tonight, and I had a lot of fun. Clean racing all around, very friendly people in there, and overall a lot of fun. I like racing the slower cars, XRG most of all, and I like that the server runs S2 tracks as well, the old CTRA server never ran S2 tracks for the slower cars, it was only S1 tracks. I might just get back into LFS now! Thanks for the great server [SR]! :thumb:

NightShift

29th April 2009, 01:33

Just popping in to report this small error:

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Disregard if it's already been reported :thumb:

polepositiondriver

29th April 2009, 03:02

Great work on the server. I've been racing most nights on there. The admin are very fair on there, clean racing all round!

danowat

29th April 2009, 06:25

Another nice few races last night :)

The Very End

29th April 2009, 07:26

I were on the FOX server, and clearly it wasn't my night. First race I manage to screw up half the field as the idiot I am, but not beeing aware of the people on my outsiden and then pound one sorry arse into wall by accident :(

The 4-5 other races were just that horrible too. Constantly beeing hit in the arse at brake spots, resulting in wrecked car in 4 of the 5 races, and a DNF in the 5th after a brake check + lag sent me into the MC Donalds store in South City.

But after that, the 3-4 next races where I manage to be in top 10 I had some great races. Again some backmarkers did manage to hit my ass some more times, but not hard enough to blast me off track, and generally this was not much of a notice compared to the blast of having 6 cars withing 1.5 sec gap battling for 5 laps!

And by the way, who was the one that saved that funny replay on Aston Gran Prix track? Did have an epic crash there. Manage to hit a car in the corner, beeing blasted off the track and by all luck I hit one random car with the wall and just manage to flip upside down in the gravvel, looked silly :p