Most likely 'mechanical' improvements within 2 patches?

[NightShift]

So we know Scawen has been working on the 'mechanical side' of LFS and the suspensions of the Scirocco, but he also talked about other improvements which are planned for inclusion in the next few patches.

What will those be?

Cast your votes :)

[duke_toaster]

Multilink suspension as the Scirocco has it, and damage modelling because Scawen suggested it may happen in the future.

[Bandit77]

can we place our bets and win anything?

[Byku]

Scawen said in December that VWC had dual wishbones in the back(in LFS, not in RL :razz:), and that he would like to work on more types of suspensions in the future. So maybe we will get multilink... but only maybe ^^.

Here's what he said:
http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?p=1004582#post1004582

[Kalev EST]

Voted "other" since there wasn´t an option for "none".

[pasibrzuch]

Voted for slow/fast dumpers & improved turbo. Not my wishlist, just blind feeling.

/edit
Oh Kalev, go be emo somewhere else!:chairs::razz:

[ColeusRattus]

With what scawen hinted, the next two improvements will be multilink suspensions and a better damage system.

I doubt they will come in the next two patches though.

[RIP2004]

I hope for Improved longitudinal traction curve ...

Next two patches will take a while, I guess :)

I think it would have one of the biggest effects of the list, because it's an improvement of the basic tyre physics, which affects everything ...

[mutt107]

damage :)

[Furiously-Fast]

first choice, Damage. We need more realistic damage asap! Scratches, parts falling off, and even cars being totalled! Damages along the lines of burnout paradise, but with the physics of GRiD will make it great!

Second choice, Turbo fix. I need to have a proper feeling of a turbo kickin' in!:tilt:

[S14 DRIFT]

I voted for turbo and engine heat/damage modelling. :)

[Mille Sabords]

@OP: You forgot the mighty AIs!!!

[RedCoupe]

Damages along the lines of burnout paradise, but with the physics of GRiD will make it great!
:bigeye:

[Bandit77]

...

do you usually bet on the team you whish to win or that's likely to win? :razz:

[HVS5b]

Voted "other" since there wasn´t an option for "none".

Word.

Next patch - VWS
2nd patch - the rest of the interiors

If the poll was a wish list I'd have to go for this order:

1. Body damage
2. Engine wear
3. Traction curve

[Mysho]

Personally I mainly miss not mechanical updates but dynamic weather changing which could do from this sim something a lot of more enjoyable. I hope that sometimes, doesn't matter when, I will be driving a wet race and doing mistakes because of too much water on the track. :tilt:

[hazaky]

Voted for all :x

[5haz]

There will be more speed to live for in the next patch. :thumb:

[Furiously-Fast]

:bigeye:

I'm only talking about the crash physics, which are OK. (at least compared to the rest of it.)

do you usually bet on the team you whish to win or that's likely to win? :razz:

Seriously, I want more realistic crash physics anyway.:shy:

[UncleBenny]

do you usually bet on the team you whish to win or that's likely to win? :razz:

Depends on if money is involved.

[NightShift]

If the poll was a wish list I'd have to go for this order:

Judging from the replies, many appear to have interpreted it more so rather than a forecast (some replies even go beyond about the mechanical bit), but the results are very interesting nonetheless.

I'm wondering whether the damage model has got so many votes because it's long due (if so it would have been interesting to throw the Rally Pack in the list :D) or rather because it's a very desirable improvement. My guesstimate is roughly half and half :scratchch

Many are betting on Multilink Suspensions, but I guess a number still thinks a single plane representation of Multilink isn't going to be much different from the double wishbone approximation that was to be included in 0.6A originally.

Keep the votes coming

[Fuse5]

Yet another topic on what we want to see in LFS.
Wasn't there a subforum for this already? Improvement suggestions?

The more you hype yourself up, the more disappointed you are going to be.

Face the patch with low, pessimistic expectations, and you will probably be happy with the outcome.

voted for other = none

[Byku]

Judging from the....
Double wishbones in LFS are working in 3d environment, Scawen said so long time ago(when introducing progress to S2), they are only shown in 2d to make it more... umm... clear for a simple user :razz:.

[UncleBenny]

I'm wondering whether the damage model has got so many votes because it's long due (if so it would have been interesting to throw the Rally Pack in the list :D) or rather because it's a very desirable improvement. My guesstimate is roughly half and half :scratchch

Well I thought the question was which one we thought would be next, and since Scawen has specifically mentioned working on damage not too long ago, I'd bet money that some kind of damage model update is in the works. You never can tell with LFS development though.

[hrtburnout]

Other (please post your forecast)

It'll say © Scawen Roberts, Eric Bailey, Victor van Vlaardingen 2003-2010..

Just kidding :o

Multilink Suspensions
More realistic turbo simulation
Better damage model (detachable wings/parts)
Improved longitudinal traction curve

Multilink because the VW has them, if I recall correctly. Same goes for the turbo simulation, and I'm sure Scawen won't overlook the traction curve either.

[S14 DRIFT]

More like © 2003-2030.. :shrug:

It'll come eventually. I'm sure it's more complicated than we all assume, but I'd rather them say "Look it'll be "at least 2 years before S3 is out" or something rather than absolute nothing.. meh.

[NightShift]

Double wishbones in LFS are working in 3d environment, Scawen said so long time ago(when introducing progress to S2), they are only shown in 2d to make it more... umm... clear for a simple user :razz:.

Can you please link the post where Scawen has said that? or otherwise give me a pointer to dig it up?

All the posts I've found have been written long after S2 was first released, and all confirm that LFS works with an internal 2D representation.

Yet another topic on what we want to see in LFS.

Nope, this topic is about what we think LFS may have in store for us in the next future - Why be so negative anyway? You sound like LFS has only given you disappointments :shrug:

[Byku]

Can you please link the post where Scawen has said that? or otherwise give me a pointer to dig it up?

http://www.lfs.net/?page=s2progress
"Currently i'm able to create two kinds of suspension and animate them in 3d (but i can't drive yet, there's a way to go before i can do that). The movement is visible in a 2-dimensional diagram which is useful as a debugging tool and something similar will probably be available in the setup screen, with certain components being adjustable while others are not."

If I understand correctly, suspension in LFS is simulated in 3d environment :D.


Btw. I kinda miss those "progress reports" ^^.

[S14 DRIFT]

/me wants MRT-6 :(!

[5haz]

Cars and barriers that aren't filled with Nitroglycerine is what I'm hoping for. :)

[Huru-aito]

Other (please post your forecast)

None.

Scirocco will be postponed further, the fixes and changes released in test patches so far will make the 0.6A version.

0.6B will be all about fixing whatever Windows 7 compatibility issues there might be.

0.6C brings a few changes to the wood inserts on FZR interior, FXO wheels get updated. The real Scirocco gets a facelift and is updated for the internal Volkswagen version and shown on Chinese Auto Salon (the biggest automotive exhibition of the world, other highlights of the CAS 2011 will be the new PjongJang Colvette ZL-2 and the ToyotaFord Prius World Rally Car).

0.6D, mid 2012. New track is introduced; a concrete covered indoor karting area, where people can make autocross layouts. Area will not be big enough for any of the cars in LFS lineup. It doesn't matter, because none of the cars would be able to accelerate because of the low speed grip issue.

0.6E, LFS graphics engine is rewritten for DirectX 9. New packets per second rate is introduced: 8 pps.

But after that, who knows what will happen!