Head-to-Head: Winter Series '09 - Event 2

[blackbird04217]

Ok here it is, sign-ups are opening and I will send a PM to all on the list. Only the top 24 will be allowed at the event. However where as this is the second event, the championship points will take priority for the first 48 hours.

January 17th, 19:00utc
Race About at Aston Club Rev (RAC@AS2R)

To signup: (Follow this or be moved to reserve list, no matter what your points are.)
Full Name Registered for the Series (LFSUserName)
Ex: Tim Beaudet (blackbird04217)


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You must arrive to the server BY 19:00utc. There is no room for being late.
The event will not immediately start at 19:00utc, instead there will be a period where reserves are brought in to fill the empty spots.

All reserves are to meet up in the LFS Meeting Room. (Multiplayer -> Display Hosts -> Meeting Room)
As people are needed, the SRS Admin will call up the reserves until the server is filled.
If a reserve driver is not in the meeting room at the time, the next on the list will be called.
*There will be no waiting around for people to join the server or meeting room*
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Sign-up List (These are not official championship results; Goto the Head-to-Head Website (http://simracers.50webs.net/h2h) to see the standings.)
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Nolan Scott (BigTime) [60pts]
Rudy van Buren (Rudy van Buren) [54pts]
Niall McEvoy (Niall09) [43pts]
Reece Pearson (Pearcy_2k7) [39pts] (OUT)
David Williams (DaveWS) [33pts]
Matthew Beattie (AMB) [30pts]
Taha El Alaoui (evilpimp) [28pts]
Tommy Østgaard (Tomhah) [26pts]
Eduardo de Souza (de Souza) [23pts]
Patrik Seidler (zeugnimod) [22pts]
Alex Gassman (Minimaxman) [21pts]
Zdeněk Cagaš (Kid222) [20pts] (OUT)
Tim Beaudet (blackbird04217) [19pts]
Stefan Alfons (Stefani24) [17pts]
Jouko Leskelä (JoLe) [16pts]
Craig Taylor (TAYLOR-MANIA) [15pts]
Bernhard Bendl (bbman) [15pts]
Luciano Benitez (enanex) [15pts]
Demetrius Adelin (Bambo) [13pts]
Niko Puntola (LFSn00b) [12pts]
Stein-André Skavdal (stein-andre) [11pts]
Lukasz Kaczmarek (Mischief007) [10pts]
Tony Lönnström (tonyonparas) [9pts]
Arco Moor (exspeed) [8pts]

Reserve List
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Scott MacDonald (Mackie The Staggie) [6pts]
Chris Karsten (Chrisuu01) [6pts]
Chris Ford (CSF) [0pts] (OUT)
Jason Lovett (JasonL220) [0pts]
Martin Kapal (Flame CZE) [0 pts]
Andris Pavars (andRo.) [0pts]
Kasper Johnsen (Kaw) [0pts]
Shaun Dacosta (shaun463) [0pts]
Sander Kronberg ([GT]Sannjx(EST)) [0pts]
Ant Collett (anttt69)

[zeugnimod]

In

Patrik Seidler (zeugnimod)

Edit: YAY, First!!! :nana:

[BAMBO]

Demetrius Adelin (Bambo)

EDIT: Damn you Zeugy!

[DaveWS]

David Williams (DaveWS)

[Tomhah]

Im in! Tommy Østgaard (Tomhah)

[Mackie The Staggie]

I'm 99% certain, all depends if I go to the football next week or not (and considering were rubbish, I'm favouring giving it a miss)

Scott MacDonald (Mackie The Staggie)

[tonyonparas]

IN! Tony Lönnström (tonyonparas)

E: Nice combo u hav there

[evilpimp]

Taha El Alaoui (evilpimp)

:)

[J@tko]

In, but God I'm gonna suck

Jack Atkinson (J@tko)

[CSF]

Chris Ford (CSF)
:)

[Rudy van Buren]

Rudy van Buren (Rudy van Buren)

[niall09]

Niall McEvoy (Niall09)

[BigTime]

Nolan Scott (BigTime)

[Minimaxman]

Alex Gassman (Minimaxman)

[TAYLOR-MANIA]

Craig Taylor (TAYLOR-MANIA)

[Mischief007]

Lukasz Kaczmarek (Mischief007)

Sweet!! At least I've had practice during the testing. Thanks for choosing this combo :).

[Stein-Andre]

Im in (stein-andre)

[Stefani24]

Stefan Alfons (Stefani24)

Lets give the beast (the bad beast) a lil ride over a lil track.

[JasonL220]

Jason Lovett ( JasonL220 )

[Mp3 Astra]

I'm not actually going to be there, so count me out I'm afraid.

[exspeed]

Arco Moor (exspeed)

[Kid222]

Zdeněk Cagaš (Kid222)

[pearcy_2k7]

God damn! So slow.

Reece Pearson (Pearcy_2k7)

[bbman]

In:
Bernhard Bendl (bbman)

Hope this goes better than today...

[JoLe]

Jouko Leskelä (JoLe)

[enanex]

Luciano Benitez (enanex)

[Chrisuu01]

Chris Karsten (Chrisuu01)

[AMB]

Matthew Beattie (AMB)

[blackbird04217]

RULE CHANGE

Q.2.1) Each participant has 5 minutes to finish their session, which consists of the following; (P1 Penalty for joining during wrong session).

Q.2.1) Each participant has 5 minutes to finish their session, which consists of the following; (Press Shift-J to see if you are in the session, system will spectate you if you're not.)

-This rule is changed because the system will not allow participants to join if they are not in the system. Since there has been some confusion in the past, I would rather people be urged to attempt getting into each session, than to not qualify at all.

[LFSn00b]

Niko Puntola (LFSn00b)

[Flame CZE]

Martin Kapal (Flame CZE)

[Mischief007]

RULE CHANGE

-This rule is changed because the system will not allow participants to join if they are not in the system. Since there has been some confusion in the past, I would rather people be urged to attempt getting into each session, than to not qualify at all.

:thumbsup:

I've always been doing that since the first time I raced in Head-2-Head. So much easier to figure out what session you are in :).

[J@tko]

In, but God I'm gonna suck

Jack Atkinson (J@tko)
I can 100% say that I will NOT be there for next round, so please take me off the sign-ups list (and don't put me in the reserves - I wont be there :P) Such as shame cos i was so looking forward to this event :D

[andRo.]

Andris Pavars (andRo.)

[shaun463]

Shaun Dacosta (shaun463)

[[GT]sannjx(EST)]

[GT]Sannjx(EST)
Sander Kronberg

[blackbird04217]

PROCEDURE CHANGE:

Q.2) Two qualification sessions with half the grid. Slower racers in the first session, faster racers in the second.

Q.2) Two qualification sessions separating the grid. Faster racers in the first session, slower racers in the second.

Reason: The procedure was coded this way in the automated system because in the earlier days we accepted the late joiners and they would qualify in session two with the other racers that didn't make it into the first session. I want to point out there is no specific on this split, because it could be half, it could be a set limit of 10 in the faster session, but whichever it is the faster session will always have the same or LESS racers than the slower session to give them a small advantage for getting a good time in warmup.

[Chrisuu01]

wait why am I on reserver list I drive in the last event? and i had the 27th post?

EDIT:

Dam beaten by mackie :(

[Mp3 Astra]

wait why am I on reserver list I drive in the last event? and i had the 27th post?

Only the top 24 will be allowed at the event....the championship points will take priority for the first 48 hours.


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[Chrisuu01]

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Wait why that all of sudden:schwitz:
Not that its a big problem becaus of my 6 points im right on top of the list.

So im just wonedering why could you excplain that to me

[Mp3 Astra]

Wait why that all of sudden:schwitz:

That's always been the case - event 1 was special because 30 people were allowed in to give (nearly) everyone a chance of getting points.

[blackbird04217]

Announcment Thread (http://www.lfsforum.net/announcement.php?f=193) will describe what the reserve list is about, and how it was planned. Event 1 was simply raised to allow 30 players to be included which gave more people *some* points for showing up and attempting to qualify. This gives them a small edge against new comers to the series, but they will still need to wait for some championship contenders to not sign-up or show-up. Your the first reserve that will be called, unless Stein-Andre fixes his post and notifies me within ~16 hours or so. He has been PMed to clear this up, as I will NOT be tolerating people who can't follow simple sign-up directions to save me a lot of time.

[[GT]sannjx(EST)]

Sander Kronberg ([GT]Sannjx(EST) )

[Chrisuu01]

That's always been the case - event 1 was special because 30 people were allowed in to give (nearly) everyone a chance of getting points.


Kay frocive me for never noticing that:shy:

[zeugnimod]

We are practicing on the [noobs] meow server. Feel free to join. :tilt:

[Stein-Andre]

here's the new post:
Stein-André Skavdal (stein-andre)

[zeugnimod]

I never thought I'd say that but I just had fun driving the RAC. I'm actually looking forward to Saturday now. :D

This seems to be a car where practicing really pays off and I urge everyone to get at least 50 laps in before Saturday in order not to cause crashes. :x

[exspeed]

I was there too and that car really is scary for me. A lot mistakes made in that car... :schwitz: Needs lots of practice!

[blackbird04217]

I never thought I'd say that but I just had fun driving the RAC. I'm actually looking forward to Saturday now. :D

This seems to be a car where practicing really pays off and I urge everyone to get at least 50 laps in before Saturday in order not to cause crashes. :x

You have no idea how happy that makes me hearing others encouraging the participants to actually practice. Most of the combos chosen for Head-to-Head would benefit from some practice, and not practice driving the track, but the first lap practice where tires are still cold... (Do two lap practice to get qualifying practice in as well)

[Mackie The Staggie]

I never thought I'd say that but I just had fun driving the RAC. I'm actually looking forward to Saturday now. :D

This seems to be a car where practicing really pays off and I urge everyone to get at least 50 laps in before Saturday in order not to cause crashes. :x

just out of curiosity...what lap times were being done. I'm hitting mid to high 1:10's with cold tires, but that was after about 3 hours of practice off-line this afternoon when I was apparently working from home :scratchch

[zeugnimod]

My PB is 1:10.01 after about an hour of practice. I'm still making a lot of mistakes, though. Only about every 5th lap is under 1:11. :x With two good splits and more consistency, maybe a 1:09.7x is possible for me.

I'll probably be on the server tomorrow evening again if you want to practice. :)

[blackbird04217]

1:10s are flying laps or standing start.

Flying laps will be good to judge qualifying times to aim for, but standing starts is obviously the race time to aim for :D

[Gil07]

1:10 from a standing start would be quite an achievement :D

[zeugnimod]

My times were obviously done from standing start. I am just that good. :hide:

[AMB]

1:09.1 HL, not tried standing start.

[niall09]

I've done a 1:09.3 hotlap with a 30.2 first split. My best first split is 30.05, but I totally suck at sector 2 :(

[pearcy_2k7]

Yeah lol i did 1.09.6 the day of H2H/FBM not tried since but i remember that chicane being awful :(

[Minimaxman]

Best so far is a 1:09.5 with a 30.3 SP1. Best standing lap so far is a 1:06.5.

EDIT: Scrap that, 1:09.25, 30.2 SP1.

[zeugnimod]

Best so far is a 1:09.5 with a 30.3 SP1. Best standing lap so far is a 1:06.5.

Are you sure? :really: :D

[Minimaxman]

Haha, I realise now. If only standing laps were 3 seconds quicker than flying laps!

1:16.5 :D

[de Souza]

That's pretty fast, my pb is 1:09.9 but I probably won't have time to practice untill saturday. I'm hoping to improve a couple of tenths though.

We'll see, my goal this time is to reach round 2 while Zeug will obviously get eliminated at the first one. :tilt:

[zeugnimod]

We'll see, my goal this time is to reach round 2 while Zeug will obviously get eliminated at the first one. :tilt:

Maybe we meet at round 1. :smileypul

[zeugnimod]

We are practicing on the [noobs] meow server. Feel free to join. :tilt:

Bump!

Going there now. :tilt:

My PB is now 1:09.60 with a 30.11 split (WR is 30.14). :smileypul

No idea how I got that, I usually have 30.7x. :D

[exspeed]

You alien! :D I'm on low 1.10's :schwitz:

[AMB]

Here's a set, feels ok.

[zeugnimod]

Here's a set, feels ok.

It lies. :(

[Mackie The Staggie]

Although I'm on the reserve list, I better tell you that i can't make the event, well I could be there on time, but since I'm having to host some clients at the local football game (= booze) I would'nt be in a sober enough state to drive :(.



Drink driving on an RAC though sounds fun :scratchch

[andRo.]

After some laps my PB is 1.10.03 with a splits of 30.28...Theoretical PB could be about 1.09.8x, but I'm pretty sure I could get 1.09.5x...but we will see when time comes, now I have to practice for a another race, so I will practice later for this. :nod:

Does anyone have good setup? It would be nice if someone could give me...Because I am driving with the set for AS2, not AS2rev, and I don't know how to make sets.

[AMB]

It lies. :(

Why doesn't it feel ok ? :D:D

Edit: Yes, that's why i'm banned from all [Noobs] Servers :(

[zeugnimod]

Edit: Yes, that's why i'm banned from all [Noobs] Servers :(

You are (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AR4PGt9oOto)?

[zeugnimod]

We are practicing on the [noobs] meow server. Feel free to join. :tilt:

Bump again. ;)

[Mp3 Astra]

Bump again. ;)

I see you're growing your balls - ready to get a good start in the race.

[exspeed]

Woah, managed a 1.09:42 with 30.41 split. :razz:

[Blas89]

Seeing that Mr. Z missed me on the last event :smileypul I'm here to say that my PC fails and so does my wheel therefore I wont be able to take place on the series :(... but! if You need help dear SRS team (haha so nice) I'd be glad to help :thumb:

[zeugnimod]

I see you're growing your balls - ready to get a good start in the race.

Balls yes - start no. :shy:

Woah, managed a 1.09:42 with 30.41 split. :razz:

1:09.54 with a 30.42 split. The funny/surprising/frightening thing is that I already had a 30.11 split once. :schwitz:

Seeing that Mr. Z missed me on the last event :smileypul I'm here to say that my PC fails and so does my wheel therefore I wont be able to take place on the series :(... but! if You need help dear SRS team (haha so nice) I'd be glad to help :thumb:

:weeping:

[DaveWS]

I've just uploaded the WR setup here (http://www.setupgrid.net/1/setup/hotlap/get/RAC@AS2r) if anyone is interested.

[andRo.]

I've just uploaded the WR setup here (http://www.setupgrid.net/1/setup/hotlap/get/RAC@AS2r) if anyone is interested.

Thank you. I'll test it later. :thumb:

[Mischief007]

I've just uploaded the WR setup here (http://www.setupgrid.net/1/setup/hotlap/get/RAC@AS2r) if anyone is interested.

Very nice of you Dave.

[Kid222]

I'm signing off this event because of internet issues.:(

[zeugnimod]

:(

[pearcy_2k7]

Yeah afraid im going to aswell. :(

[CSF]

Looks like I'm out of the reserve list too after finding out I have to be away from home all day tomorrow. :(

[Mp3 Astra]

Yeah afraid im going to aswell. :(

So what's your excuse, then? :razz:

[blackbird04217]

I'm signing off this event because of internet issues.:(

Sorry to hear, hope you will be able to make the future events.

[pearcy_2k7]

So what's your excuse, then? :razz:

Well its a long and embarassing story i don't want to get into :D But i have no internet on the LFS computer and it could stop me from doing the MoE 24hr race :(

[andRo.]

I've just uploaded the WR setup here (http://www.setupgrid.net/1/setup/hotlap/get/RAC@AS2r) if anyone is interested.

Tried your setup, but I somehow didn't like it. :shrug: For me it felt too loose, and it was hard to control...maybe because I don't race with steering wheel.
But anyway, took my old setup again and after a half an hour drive got a PB - 1.09.69 with a split - 30.33, and TPB - 1.09.61

It's sad that I'm in the reserve list, because I really want to compete in the race this time. :nod:

[blackbird04217]

Tried your setup, but I somehow didn't like it. :shrug: For me it felt too loose, and it was hard to control...maybe because I don't race with steering wheel.
But anyway, took my old setup again and got a PB - 1.09.69, and TPB - 1.09.61

It's sad that I'm in the reserve list, because I really want to compete in the race this time. :nod:

Just make sure you are in the meeting room at the time specified and you will have a chance. As of now 2 people in the event signed out of this one, and also 1 person above you in the reserves. There are only 24 people allowed in, but even with the first one as popular as it was there were 6 or 7 people from the reserves that were called up into the game server.

[andRo.]

Ok, I'll be there for sure. :thumb: Thx blackbird.

[DaveWS]

Tried your setup, but I somehow didn't like it. :shrug: For me it felt too loose, and it was hard to control...maybe because I don't race with steering wheel.
But anyway, took my old setup again and after a half an hour drive got a PB - 1.09.69 with a split - 30.33, and TPB - 1.09.61

Yeah, well I made it with a steering wheel in mind. What controller do you use? Mouse? It's designed to be fast though, so I can imagine it would feel pretty loose to a non-wheel user.

[andRo.]

I use keyboard. :D Yes, you can laugh, and I know it's lame, but I've been using it for 2 years almost already, and never really wanted to spend so much money for the wheel. Even if I should of. And as I started playing LFS with keyboard, I got use to it, and now I just race with it and don't want to change to mouse, cause then it takes a long time till I get use to it again + I don't really like driving with mouse. :shrug:

And don't be scared that I use keyboard. I can control my car on the road, and I know the rules, so I won't be crashing you guys etc., because sometimes people can't control the car with the keyboard, so they make huge crashes. I'll try my best. :schwitz:

[tonyonparas]

I would be ready to do a 32 racers event, as there are 8 reserves plus the 24 others. I think it would be fun :)
It takes a bit longer, but so what? It´s saturday night and you´ve got the whole sunday to recover from it :scratchch

[zeugnimod]

I doubt the rules will be changed 5 hours before an event.

[blackbird04217]

The general concensus was it would take too long for people to race again. Like, the first round alone could be upwards of 45 minutes alone. I don't have an issue with that if people were active, but it takes too long to get to the next race. Next series we will have a solution, but it won't be 32 player events, it will probably be split into divisions.

[anttt69]

Reserve if space.

Ant Collett (anttt69)

[TAYLOR-MANIA]

Apologies, i'm in breach of GC.2.1 doing this this late with 50mins to go...
The chances are there'll be another slot for a reserve driver, as i'm pretty sure i won't be there this week. I was just beginning to get to grips with the combo, but my social life took a backseat last weekend & I don't feel like doing it again! :D
So please excuse me this time, sorry, have a good one...

[Flame CZE]

I failed this one :( I didn't even get to the races themselves and I wrote something during the race by mistake :(

But I'm looking forward to the next event, I think it will be very close.

[andRo.]

Thank you very much for the race. It was great, it was my first time in this kind of event and the system on server was also cool. :nod:

But now:

I'm really sorry for lagging. I really didn't know it could be that bad, because I don't see my own lag. I appologise to Bernhard Bendl. Even though I don't think anyone crashed because of my lag, or I won because of my lag, I'm still sorry.
The reason for the lagging was that, mine and my sisters computer internet connection is connected though the router. And I guess she was downloading something and beeing on MSN and internet. So if she does something it also affects my connection. I asked her to turn it off, but she didn't so yea, that was bit of a fail for me. :schwitz:
In the 2nd round against Niall, I just let him win without fighting, because I didn't want to crash him or so with my lag.

Luckily nobody was damaged and no accident happened because of my lag. I don't usually lag, but there are few times when this happens. And I noticed my internet connection weakend in the evening today. :shrug:

It would be nice if someone could send me a replay, where I was lagging. Because when everyone was yelling at me, that I'm lagging, I forgot to save both of the races.

If Bernhard Bendl's thinks that he lost because of my lag, then let him have all my points. :thumb:

Thank you organizers. I know you should of kicked me already after the first of because of lagging, but you still let me race, so thank you.

EDIT: I will fix my lag for the next race, but if I don't then I just wont come to the race.

[zeugnimod]

Too bad you timed out, de Souza. I would have loved to beat you in round 1. :razz: I think, I got one of the fastest laps of round 1, though.

I "failed" in round 2, though. If I drove my usual pace I could have beaten Taha easily, tbh. :(

This was probably the only round where I had a realistic chance for the semifinal but whatever. :shrug:


Someone from IRC is such a fan of the H2H series that he wanted all the replays so I uploaded them and thought I might as well post them here: http://www.sendspace.com/file/bje2b4 :tilt:

I put autosave on, though, so they aren't named properly.

[blackbird04217]

I will be uploading all the Replays in named format sometime soonish, I need to get on renaming them and all but the will be made available.

[bbman]

If Bernhard Bendl's thinks that he lost because of my lag, then let him have all my points. :thumb:

Nah, my second race was crap, went in too deep at the chicane and consequently spun... Your win was completely valid... :thumb:

Btw, is there anywhere we can look up the standings?

[de Souza]

Too bad you timed out, de Souza. I would have loved to beat you in round 1. :razz:

After so much anticipation I couldn't believe I was actually racing against you, would have been a good race.

So frustrating... still can't even hop in the server and practice for the next combo.


@bbman: They'll be on our website... sometime.

[pearcy_2k7]

So, who won etc etc?

[Flame CZE]

Rudy van Buren won (congratulations :))

Some races were very close, especially that with Rudy and Niall (?) that was a tie.

And UF1+FE1R FTW :D

[de Souza]

Results are up on our website (http://simracers.50webs.net/h2h/) (check Events Calendar on the right). I'm hoping to get the standings done this sunday... it's mainly ready, just need to double check a few things and correct others.

Glad to see that the gap from 16th and pole position actually lowered on this event compared to the first one, even with that insane lap from Rudy. Many people (me included) were thinking qualify would be crap with some spins and tyre bowlings but everyone did pretty well in such challenging conditions.

So don't feel bad if you didn't make it in the top16, the entire field is getting faster so maybe next time is your turn. Keep up the good work guys! :thumb:

[Mischief007]

May I say that I hate when someone drafts me and wins in the last damn 50 metres :razz:.

[zeugnimod]

Do you know when the standings will be up? :shy:

[de Souza]

Do you know when the standings will be up? :shy:

I know... erm... right now! Go check how well you did so far (http://simracers.50webs.net/h2h/). :)

[evilpimp]

WOOOOT I'm 4th!! :D

[zeugnimod]

WOOOOT I'm 4th!! :D

I'm coming for you. :razz:

[Stefani24]

Niko im going to get ya