Newbie to LFS, But...

[x_Slideways_x]

Hello all, im a click away from purchasing a s2 account. I am a racing nut with extreme knowledge of real life tuning and found that my home brewed suspension calculator works in decent sim demos This game gave me the most detailed realistic response for any change. So I ask this how is this community.. both for grip and drift. Update support decent? car tunability options for s2? I dont know any heads up info would be great!
Thanks!
Rob

[x_Slideways_x]

guess its not as good as i hoped with a poor community ,,,a shame

[MiniVan]

Welcome man, Im glad you found interest in LFS and I hope you enjoy your stay here as much as all of us do!. :thumb: lol welcome.

[dRonRS]

guess its not as good as i hoped with a poor community ,,,a shame

Well, look at the time, its night in Europe, and most of the lfs community lives in Europe. Have some patience...

[G!NhO]

well there is no "tuning" option in lfs s2, because it isnt Need for speed. :smileypul
but there is something called lfs tweak, you can tune your car with that but you cannot go online with it. :)

and the updates at this rate are once every 6 months :shrug:

[Mille Sabords]

But if by tuning you mean adapting the car to the track, then you will find LFS has indeed tuning opportunities.

Some here do consider that the possible adjustments for each variable are too accurate and cover a range too wide (compared with one can do to a car in RL), and also that the adjustment possibilities for road cars should be limited.

For example it is possible to set up a FWD car can to produce oversteer in specific conditions.
There have not been too many highly interesting technical threads in the setup section lately, but if you search through it you may stumble across very good debates regarding car "tuning", as in adjusting the variables to get the best compromise for the track and your driving.
I also recommend the addon by Bob Smith, VHPA, if you want to go further into LFS setups and get a comparison with your calculator.

Links here:
http://www.vehicle-analyser.com/ the utility
http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=16961 Its LFS thread

Welcome!
Looking forward to your discussions with LFS setup gurus :)

[x_Slideways_x]

By tuning I mean chassis/suspension tuning not a go fast muffler and a high rise hood on a honda for speedracer. Sounds like its perfect :) welp got to make a chair ..there goes $700 :p

[Byku]

Oh... and there goes VW Scirocco with locked setup :razz:.

[Danny LFS]

Hello all, im a click away from purchasing a s2 account. I am a racing nut with extreme knowledge of real life tuning and found that my home brewed suspension calculator works in decent sim demos This game gave me the most detailed realistic response for any change. So I ask this how is this community.. both for grip and drift. Update support decent? car tunability options for s2? I dont know any heads up info would be great!
Thanks!
Rob

Oh, you want tuning? GO PLAY NEED FOR SPEED.

[AndroidXP]

By tuning I mean chassis/suspension tuning not a go fast muffler and a high rise hood on a honda for speedracer.
Oh, you want tuning? GO PLAY NEED FOR SPEED.
Shut up.

@x_Slideways_x: LFS allows for ridiculously fine tuning of the suspension components, so it should indeed be the right thing for you :). However, be aware that in the future these tuning options may be restricted to more realistic values than now, so at least on some cars it might not stay as much tuner's heaven as it is now.

[dustthatass]

Shut up.

Please don't flame.:thumb:

[x_Slideways_x]

Please don't flame.:thumb:

flame? the dude that said go play nfs was flaming guess he's just afraid that some 1 is comming in new to the game with more knowledge on the subject then he learned over however long hes been here playing thank you for defending me i can see this is going to be quite the expieriance sorry for the poor grammer im on my phone lol ill be sure to fill in anyone intrested on the calculator thanks a bunch
Rob

[obsolum]

Oh, you want tuning? GO PLAY NEED FOR SPEED.
http://www.easysmileys.com/img/sad_shakehead.gif

Way to make an idiot of yourself. Go look up the word "tuning" in a dictionary. And read the thread before making a retarded reply.

@OP: the community is great, but you will have undoubtedly noticed that some people aren't as friendly as others. I guess that's the case with any big community. As for "grip vs drift"... you don't want to open that can of worms ;)

What do you mean by "update support"?

[x_Slideways_x]

yea i noticed the lack of common sense already the drift vs grip dosent bother me my passion is pushing a car to its limits weither it be sideways or pushing g's so that your cheeks pull from your teeth lol i love both. by update support i mean the attention this game recieves for patches , updates & exspansion.

[obsolum]

by update support i mean the attention this game recieves for patches , updates & exspansion.
Ah, that's what I thought. That's a bit of a fickle point around here. There's been endless discussions about updates and/or the lack thereof. It all depends on what you expect, I think. Before you buy an S2 license you should realise that LFS is a work in progress. Hell, it's not even Beta yet! So it's in no way a finished product; it has its flaws, there are several known bugs, some of which have existed for quite some time. There's only 3 people working on LFS, and only 1 who does all the coding. So don't expect a patch every month, or even every 6 months. Patches are released when they're ready, and no sooner than that. The developers work at their own pace and have made it clear on several occasions that they will work on what they deem necessary, not on what we - the community - feel should come first. Let alone some individuals. They also very seldom let us in on what exactly they're working on, so don't expect regular news on that either. I suggest enjoying the sim for what it is, instead of dreaming of what it might someday be.

[MAD3.0LT]

welcome to lfs mate nice to have what it seems another decent person :P

i find LFS was the best investment i have ever made granted im bored of the game after 5 years or so but the fact that a racing sim has kept me entertained this long is amazing.

you will find the griting of the teeth excitement once you really get into the game so i susjest buy it and love it :D

[hazaky]

well there is no "tuning" option in lfs s2, because it isnt Need for speed. :smileypul
Let me fix you m8 :scratchch
What "tuning" actually means? It doesnt only mean 'Bodywork' tuning and 'Glass tinting'. At LFS ... We actually CAN say that LFS is a big bunch of tuning. Because "tuning" itself means changing the rations and things (like u tune an analog radio). All the suspension stiffness changing and all this IS tuning. No offence :)

Edit: Same u can say that when u make ur bike's chain shorter ... its tuning. Any values changing thing is kinda like tuning.
Edit: Because "tune" / "tuning" means it. Think some more about that word or look it up on dictionary.

Soz for english tho, its just a explanation :)

Some more edit: If you guys dont get me then ... ur failed ... think about that word "tune". :D

[Chrisuu01]

As far as performance tuning suspension wise and tyre spresure gear ratious ect.

Lfs actualy alows to much tuning:shrug: so much im stil trying to learn what everyting actualy does.
Althow i have beighn able to make my first set that realy suits ame and allows me to set actual PB times

[G!NhO]

Let me fix you m8 :scratchch
What "tuning" actually means? It doesnt only mean 'Bodywork' tuning and 'Glass tinting'. At LFS ... We actually CAN say that LFS is a big bunch of tuning. Because "tuning" itself means changing the rations and things (like u tune an analog radio). All the suspension stiffness changing and all this IS tuning. No offence :)

Edit: Same u can say that when u make ur bike's chain shorter ... its tuning. Any values changing thing is kinda like tuning.
Edit: Because "tune" / "tuning" means it. Think some more about that word or look it up on dictionary.

Soz for english tho, its just a explanation :)

Some more edit: If you guys dont get me then ... ur failed ... think about that word "tune". :D

yeah i know what you mean, but i thought he meant TEH > Rice TunerZ :p

[MAD3.0LT]

lol dam it dont edit ur posts :P
G!NhO

[G!NhO]

lol dam it dont edit ur posts :P
G!NhO

huh...........what?

[Bandit77]

Before you buy an S2 license you should realise that LFS is a work in progress. Hell, it's not even Beta yet! So it's in no way a finished product; it has its flaws, there are several known bugs, some of which have existed for quite some time.

NOOOO. Exactly THIS view will make you unhappy.

Look at it as finished. Pay your bucks for what you get NOW (which is exactly like the demo with more cars and more tracks and space on the server for your skins). No one knows what it's gonna be like when / if it's ever finalized.

As for the tuning: get the demo (don't you already have it?). There's only tiny bits in the tuning field exclusive to S1/S2... like 4WD tweaking or traction control. That's probably it.

Edit:
If you guys dont get me then ... ur failed ... think about that word "tune".
Not nearly mastering a foreign language nor being a native speaker and still using "cool" abbreviations like "m8" and "u" (even more so "ur") is a BIG FAIL. Not only because it looks "wannabe", but also because weaker foreign speakers will have a hard time understanding your lettered outpourings.
So if us guys don't get you, it's probably you who failed.

[MAD3.0LT]

huh...........what?

wait what?

[obsolum]

NOOOO. Exactly THIS view will make you unhappy.

Look at it as finished. Pay your bucks for what you get NOW (which is exactly like the demo with more cars and more tracks and space on the server for your skins). No one knows what it's gonna be like when / if it's ever finalized.

That's why I said:

I suggest enjoying the sim for what it is, instead of dreaming of what it might someday be.
However, LFS is an unfinished product and it does have bugs. There's no denying that, and I think it's important people realize that before they put their money down.

[Bandit77]

That's why I said: ...

ok, sorry. totally overread that bit. :thumb:

[Mille Sabords]

...However, LFS is an unfinished product and it does have bugs. There's no denying that, and I think it's important people realize that before they put their money down.

And that is still way better than a finished product with bugs ;)

[M0RFIUS]

When I bought S2, I thought of it as, a finished game, with ongoing updates..

Like, you play most games, and they are finished, and thats all.. No updates, etc..


In a way I suppose it's like Runescape - You pay for whats there, and get the benefit of having updates every so often..

It's a great game, and it was when I started playing, any additions to it will only make it better.. :D

[travbrad]

Like, you play most games, and they are finished, and thats all.. No updates, etc..


In a way I suppose it's like Runescape - You pay for whats there, and get the benefit of having updates every so often..

Did you just compare LFS to Runescape? :really: :p