New G25 F1 Wheel

[Vinnylegends]

Hi guys!
Lately I have contacted someone to build me a 2008 Ferrari F1 Wheel replica.
I wanted to share this construction picture with you!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/28045408@N07/3138314731/
It isnt much now but he has only started :smileypul

[thgombeer]

hey, nice work ;)

just a question : how do you put the wheel on the G25 with the buttons ??

[Vinnylegends]

The G25 will be detached and this wheel will replace it. For the buttons we use a Lbodnar Joystick Controller and LED Shift Lights. And a Info Display.

[Vinnylegends]

http://www.flickr.com/photos/28045408@N07/3141582161/sizes/l/

Carbon added and work on the handles has been done.

[Riders Motion]

I hope for your good that this wheel will be lighter or not heavier than the original G25 wheel otherwise, well expect your FFB to die fast. :shrug:

[Vinnylegends]

I dont use FFB, I think its annoying...

[Bose321]

Lol... What's the whole point of a FFB then?:really:

[ATHome]

And what controls your steering resistance then ? :really:

[Storm_Cloud]

It looks pretty heavy!

[Vinnylegends]

My arms?
And I bought the G25 because it is modable and it has a seq shifter so I can buy another one for a GTR Sim

[ATHome]

Ugh... Everybody has it's own preference, but for me a wheel without FFB would just feel sluggish, because it has no self-centering.

[mcintyrej]

You don't use FFB? Your wasting a G25 then if you don't use it. The FFB on a G25 helps you feel when a slide is coming so you can stop it before it happens.

[Vinnylegends]

Yeah and when I rock the wheel it goes left-right-left-right over and over again because of the FFB bouncing back. I do have 50% centering force on.

[marzman]

Yeah and when I rock the wheel it goes left-right-left-right over and over again because of the FFB bouncing back. I do have 50% centering force on.
Then you need to invert the forcefeedback.

[rich_hobo94]

are you gonna use the wheel mounted clutch paddles???

[Gil07]

Yeah and when I rock the wheel it goes left-right-left-right over and over again because of the FFB bouncing back. I do have 50% centering force on.

Centering force should be off... :/

[Riders Motion]

What a stupid way to do things. Build a cockpit, get an awesome wheel but not using the FFB. Meh.

[DragonCommando]

To use FFB in LFS you need to set the logitech profiler up with no damper force, and no spring force.

Overall at 75-105% depending on how much force you want.

And LFS should have FFB set to 20-25%

[Vinnylegends]

http://www.flickr.com/photos/28045408@N07/3150410993/
Buttons added!

[Töki (HUN)]

Looking good. :thumb:

[TexasLTU]

Nice :thumb:

[Sponge]

The first 2 pics don't work.. but the third looks nice :)

[Japsel]

looking good :thumb:

[Vinnylegends]

Thnxs guys!
Heres the Display:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/28045408@N07/3154340897/in/photostream/
Those first pics were removed!

[NoYPiDRiFTER]

I really don't use FFB on my momo either. I feel its very annoying. It shakes my desk like crazy. I just use a free wheel for fast steering. When a spin is about to come I spin it OR oversteer. Its easier. Anyway, NICE wheel man, that gives you the real bf1 feeling when driving it.

[Vinnylegends]

Yes it certainly will :).
Thanks for all your positive replies!

[Dalek0220]

Looks immense, I wonder when you'll get bored of it and sell it :razz:

[Stiggie]

Looks great!! :thumb: I'd love to see some real-life video from it working when it's finished.
Is all the other stuff of there also home-made?

[G!NhO]

Looks great!! :thumb: I'd love to see some real-life video from it working when it's finished.

with FFB pl0x!

[Vinnylegends]

It is all Home Made!

[Vinnylegends]

http://www.flickr.com/photos/28045408@N07/3159837369/
The Motherboard
Complete with Ferrari logo and my LFS Username!

[Sponge]

That's really cool :D

Can't wait for some vids when it's done!

[Vinnylegends]

http://www.flickr.com/photos/28045408@N07/3167737730/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/28045408@N07/3166878917/
Display and Controls installed

[Sponge]

Looking nice!

[Scrabby]

Is it also possible with a real (for example) Sparco wheel??

[Vinnylegends]

Well this wheel was built totally from scratch. Everything self made.

[BlackEye]

Little bit offtopic, but is that some kind of flight sim gear you have in you flickr album? Also DIY? Looks like time machine to me:D:thumb:

Great wheel to, can't wait to see it finished :)

[Vinnylegends]

It isnt my FlickR.
But it is a Flight Sim Rig.

[Tim_J_23]

Niiice!

Will the the small LED light lit up as the tachometer? If so, how are you going to get it synched to the game? ...

[Vinnylegends]

Yes the leds will be the tachometer.
I will get software and everything included with the wheel in order to work!

[1993weeman]

That is Brilliant, :thumb: cant wait for the end product.

Great job and well done so far

[Vinnylegends]

Thnxs!
We are considering rediong the tachometer and display becasue we are not 100% statisfied.
Also the buttons will be changed back to real places.

[Niels Heusinkveld]

Wow at first I thought how am I going to say the cockpit, especially those sidepots, are a bit off... But that wheel and the electronics work look well made and designed, so round 2 does go to you.:)

[Vinnylegends]

Thnxs man!

[Vinnylegends]

With new Leds and working movie:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/28045408@N07/3188596660/sizes/l/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbSYGs8niKM&eurl=http://forum.racesimcentral.com/private.php?do=showpm&pmid=709640

[Tim_J_23]

That's totally AWESOME!!!

[Stiggie]

that's totally awesome!!!

+1.

Now we need to see a video of it working @ LFS. But i bet there's still a ton of things to do untill it's that time?

[Vinnylegends]

It is finished in like 10 days or so.

[Sponge]

It is finished in like 10 days or so.
That's pretty fast.. can't wait to see the end result :tilt:

[Vinnylegends]

Yeah, Cant wait to use it next week.
It gives me a good feel of how it is to drive an F60 :tilt:

[Vinnylegends]

The Rotary switch is being added now.
Pictures coming soon.

[oldnavy]

Man you're good.Make more and sell them :)

[Stiggie]

Man you're good.Make more and sell them :)

:nod:

I'm amazed that it took such a short time to make it. Great job.

[Sponge]

The guy that makes them, does sell them... *sigh*

[Stiggie]

The guy that makes them, does sell them... *sigh*

Source? Have you got anything to prove that?

[Sponge]

Source? Have you got anything to prove that?
*sigh*
Vinny is buying one from the guy right.. do the math sherlock..

[Stiggie]

The guy that makes them, does sell them... *sigh*

Them means he makes multiple doesn't it? I thought you ment that he is already selling them. Make yourself more clear next time, ''sherlock'' :really:
Anyway, then he should suggest it to the guy who made it.

[Sponge]

yeah.. my bad..:shy: but if i recall correctly, the guy that makes the wheel made a few before right? But i don't think he'll be making like 20 and start selling them.. takes a lot of effort and time to make a custom product like this..

[Vinnylegends]

From my first Post:
Lately I have contacted SOMEONE to build ME a 2008 Ferrari F1 Wheel replica.
HE is just beginning

[Vinnylegends]

Rotary switchplate modded
Tire Temperature gauge place drilled.
Technical small rotarys drilled.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/28045408@N07/3199203591/

[Sponge]

Impressive! Are all the buttons functioning or just aesthetic?

[Stiggie]

Impressive! Are all the buttons functioning or just aesthetic?

I believe they're going to be functional, as seen on this picture where there are already tags next to the buttons.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/28045408@N07/3115755289/in/photostream/

[Sponge]

:tilt: indeed.. imagine what possibilities that would give :D

[Vinnylegends]

They are all usable.
He has also developed LFS software from scratch to work with this wheel.

[MijnWraak]

They are all usable.
He has also developed LFS software from scratch to work with this wheel.
Wow. I wish he was my slave :p
How much is this gonna cost ya?

[Vinnylegends]

Wow. I wish he was my slave :p
How much is this gonna cost ya?
Thats something private that I wont tell.
Prices shouldnt be discussed in public :tilt:

[Chrisuu01]

Thats something private that I wont tell.
Prices shouldnt be discussed in public :tilt:


KIk so thats alot and vin I think both of us should go to somthing that is called a bed im going now BTW

[der butz]

You go to bed together?????

:scratchch

aaw, Hammonds car was right, Manlove rules ok :D

greetz

der soon-to-be-married-to-a-woman-butz

[Chrisuu01]

You go to bed together?????

:scratchch

aaw, Hammonds car was right, Manlove rules ok :D

greetz

der soon-to-be-married-to-a-woman-butz

WTH man stop making us lok like freaks you erm..... freak:tilt:

[Vinnylegends]

http://www.flickr.com/photos/28045408@N07/3213243338/
The Rotary switch buttons in the making!

[hotmail]

http://www.flickr.com/photos/28045408@N07/3213243338/
The Rotary switch buttons in the making!
you surprice me every time again, very very nice building,

looks great:thumb::nod:

[Vinnylegends]

you surprice me every time again, very very nice building,

looks great:thumb::nod:
Thnxs!

[G!NhO]

Very nice Vinny :thumb:

[Vinnylegends]

Very nice Vinny :thumb:
Remember. What you see is only the casting mould!!

[hansonator69]

That looks awesome. Too much for me though lol, not really into F1.

[Vinnylegends]

http://www.flickr.com/photos/28045408@N07/3219087638/sizes/o/
Rotary TEST buttons finished and added.

[dan12s]

very nice vin :) btw this is dan from the OM server,
how much is this costing you if you dont mind me asking..:thumb:

[Tim_J_23]

Crazy!!! :thumb:

[Vinnylegends]

very nice vin :) btw this is dan from the OM server,
how much is this costing you if you dont mind me asking..:thumb:
Yeah I remember you. Well about the costs.. Thats something private. But trust me, It costs enough :D

[Sponge]

very nice vin :) btw this is dan from the OM server,
how much is this costing you if you dont mind me asking..:thumb:

Thats something private that I wont tell.
Prices shouldnt be discussed in public :tilt:
:razz:

[Vinnylegends]

:razz:
Youre my Quoteslut :tilt: :thumb:

[Sponge]

Youre my Quoteslut :tilt: :thumb:
But i'm expensive :razz:

[Vinnylegends]

But i'm expensive :razz:
I got all the money you need :nod:

[Sponge]

I got all the money you need :nod:
lol :razz:

[Takumi_lfs]

Looks very impressive Vinny. Too bad, I could only dream about it.

[dan12s]

+1 takumi, and ok vin np :)i wish i had the money...

[wild]

Any updates with the wheel Vinny?

[Jordan2007]

wouldnt it just be easier stealing a wheel from a real F1 Car.

get a job in a team then stash the wheel down your trousers..:thumb:

SORTED!

[Takumi_lfs]

Only spoiled kids steal....

[Vinnylegends]

Any updates with the wheel Vinny?
Not atm!
Although this week we will continue with the work!

[Vinnylegends]

http://www.flickr.com/photos/28045408@N07/3263566043/sizes/l/
Update!

[Stiggie]

:eek:

That looks awesome.

[EliteAti]

beautiful, just beautiful :thumb: cant wait when its 100% ready

[amp88]

It does look very impressive but how much does it weigh?

[aroX123]

Can i buy it? xD

[Vinnylegends]

No Chance In (.....) :tilt:

[aroX123]

(.....)
special place? :D

[Chrisuu01]

Vinny if your done with this cotact some wheel modify company and share your recepie you could make big money out of this.

[Vinnylegends]

Thats the thing I dont want to happen :tilt:
Its a small scale production :D

[Chrisuu01]

Thats the thing I dont want to happen :tilt:
Its a small scale production :D

You are one crazy guy id do it like 1,2,3 to be rich since im kind of poor as bastard:(.
Its actualy partly a miracle i could afford my high end PC

[der butz]

Hi guys!
Lately I have contacted someone to build me a 2008 Ferrari F1 Wheel replica.
....

Just in case someone wants to have it built as well, vinny does NOT build this himself. So there has to be someone making it (and charging a sh*tload of money for it).
Don't ask if vinny sells you one, ask where HE sends the money to.

greetz

der butz

[cheesomatic]

Why does it have the Porshe logo on the motherboard when it is a Ferrari Replica?:shrug:

[Sponge]

Why does it have the Porshe logo on the motherboard when it is a Ferrari Replica?:shrug:
You need your eyes checked... it's a Ferrari logo (pretty bad quality one but nonetheless...)

[Vinnylegends]

You need your eyes checked... it's a Ferrari logo (pretty bad quality one but nonetheless...)
Hey Sponge. Why dont you try it to make that. Its harder then it looks. :tilt:

[Sponge]

Hey Sponge. Why dont you try it to make that. Its harder then it looks. :tilt:
To be honest, i've made circuit boards in the past, it's not all that hard (well, the actual process of making one, the designing part and all is something i leave over to the experts, once you have a design it's easy as pie). I can explain how to do it, but the internet is probably better at it :P

[Vinnylegends]

To be honest, i've made circuit boards in the past, it's not all that hard (well, the actual process of making one, the designing part and all is something i leave over to the experts, once you have a design it's easy as pie). I can explain how to do it, but the internet is probably better at it :P
It doesnt matter to me how the logo looks. It will be covered with a box so...

[Sponge]

It doesnt matter to me how the logo looks. It will be covered with a box so...
I know :) but it's just because cheesomatic thought it was a Porsche logo instead of a Ferrari logo :tilt:

[Vinnylegends]

I know :) but it's just because cheesomatic thought it was a Porsche logo instead of a Ferrari logo :tilt:
Fail.. :smileypul

[Ovidiu23]

It doesnt matter to me how the logo looks. It will be covered with a box so...
Then why you bothered make it? :)

[Sponge]

Then why you bothered make it? :)
You didn't read the whole topic did you?

[Vinnylegends]

Then why you bothered make it? :)
Read the 50000 posts saying I didnt make the wheel.

[Sponge]

Anyway, to keep it ontopic, anything on when it'll be done and arriving to you?

[Vinnylegends]

Well, The guy seems to have scammed me in some other way.
First place. He charged 115 euros for it.
Now hes at 500 euros and not done yet.
SUCKS ****ING MEATBALLS!! :x

[Sponge]

what the....

[Ovidiu23]

Oh damn, I'm sorry for you... :|

[Vinnylegends]

Yep, Still waiting for his answer to my mail.
Was like 5 days ago.

[Chrisuu01]

Well, The guy seems to have scammed me in some other way.
First place. He charged 115 euros for it.
Now hes at 500 euros and not done yet.
SUCKS ****ING MEATBALLS!! :x
Isnt that called saming you you could put him into the hands of Mr. judge

[Vinnylegends]

Isnt that called saming you you could put him into the hands of Mr. judge
Right. Hes Spanish...

[Vinnylegends]

Hi Vincent:

100 euros is for the steering wheel bmw without display or buttons, the wheel of Ferrari is personalized, with many hours of work and design is unique, it is obvious that $ 100 price is a totally unfair, only that quantity of materials exceeds , 3 months your work putting your materials by $ 100? $ 500 is a ridiculous price given what you ask me, fully functional replica of a Ferrari, I have no need to sell it and the effort I made in do not you care at all, I just wish the steering wheel, the wheel build your vicent and I bought it for 100 euros


Yeh Wtf?!? :really:

[MijnWraak]

Hi Vincent:

100 euros is for the steering wheel bmw without display or buttons, the wheel of Ferrari is personalized, with many hours of work and design is unique, it is obvious that $ 100 price is a totally unfair, only that quantity of materials exceeds , 3 months your work putting your materials by $ 100? $ 500 is a ridiculous price given what you ask me, fully functional replica of a Ferrari, I have no need to sell it and the effort I made in do not you care at all, I just wish the steering wheel, the wheel build your vicent and I bought it for 100 euros


Yeh Wtf?!? :really:
well that sucks. Guy seems to be a douchebag. But tbh, did you really expect to get that for 100 euros? Noone's that dumb =)

[Vinnylegends]

well that sucks. Guy seems to be a douchebag. But tbh, did you really expect to get that for 100 euros? Noone's that dumb =)
Well, If he said so. Back then I did.

[jbirdaspec]

Hi Vincent:

100 euros is for the steering wheel bmw without display or buttons, the wheel of Ferrari is personalized, with many hours of work and design is unique, it is obvious that $ 100 price is a totally unfair, only that quantity of materials exceeds , 3 months your work putting your materials by $ 100? $ 500 is a ridiculous price given what you ask me, fully functional replica of a Ferrari, I have no need to sell it and the effort I made in do not you care at all, I just wish the steering wheel, the wheel build your vicent and I bought it for 100 euros


Yeh Wtf?!? :really:

I hope this works out for you vinny. I've been watching this thread to see how your wheel is coming along.

Jay Odom

[Vinnylegends]

I hope this works out for you vinny. I've been watching this thread to see how your wheel is coming along.

Jay Odom
Yes, I think he must sell it because he promised me 100$

[STF]

ouch.. i`m sure he(they) could use some negative publicity. they were supposed to inform you first about the total price, before starting to put the pieces together..
but you gotta admit, the work he put into it, and the details.. i was expecting a higher price, really..

not really a rip off - of course i wouldn`t pay that money - but they have to stick to what they`ve promised.

sorry it turned out that way dude :(, keep us posted.. i hope it`ll work out.

[Vinnylegends]

ouch.. i`m sure he(they) could use some negative publicity. they were supposed to inform you first about the total price, before starting to put the pieces together..
but you gotta admit, the work he put into it, and the details.. i was expecting a higher price, really..

not really a rip off - of course i wouldn`t pay that money - but they have to stick to what they`ve promised.

sorry it turned out that way dude :(, keep us posted.. i hope it`ll work out.
Yep, Im hoping RSC comes back soon so I can post that message where he said that!

[bisawelo]

Vinnylegends, I think you are wrong. I know for a long time and this person is impossible to offer that product for that money.
Make this wheel for over a month of work and dedication looking for parts and trailers and see it work perfectly.
Sure you speak in different languages as there was confusion as to use the google translator is not always reliable.
And I'm sure if you ask him to explain how you made such a wheel, he does not have to tell any inconvenience to you or anyone who asks ..
So then you can check for yourself whether or not worth the $ 100 wheel.
greetings

[jbirdaspec]

Yes, I think he must sell it because he promised me 100$

Vinny.

TBH with you... I think you should try and meet him in the middle of the road on this...that is if you want the wheel. From what I've read the original price was for a BMW with standard equipment and it sounded like he already had the components and technique for building the BMW wheel. 100 euro for a custom job like you want would be very cheap... not only that but the wheel would need software custom written for all the LCD and contrals to work correctly. The going price for a pre made momo wheel is around or more then 100 euro, so the BMW in itself was a good deal to start with. Correct me if I'm wrong on any of this.

If you don't try and compromise with him on payment and figure out a price that both of you can live with... Then I don't see any reason why he wouldn't just sell wheel to someone else that is willing to pay more for a one of a kind Ferrari replica. Probably wouldn't take him long to sell it. In turn leave you with nothing. Also, I would be careful posting this on a public message board. If he were to see this, he might become angry with you for discussing this private matter. That will more then likely encourage him to do less to your benefit.

Still I hope this works out for you in the end.

Jay Odom

[EliteAti]

Vinnylegends, I think you are wrong. I know for a long time and this person is impossible to offer that product for that money.
Make this wheel for over a month of work and dedication looking for parts and trailers and see it work perfectly.
Sure you speak in different languages as there was confusion as to use the google translator is not always reliable.
And I'm sure if you ask him to explain how you made such a wheel, he does not have to tell any inconvenience to you or anyone who asks ..
So then you can check for yourself whether or not worth the $ 100 wheel.
greetings

Then maybe tell him that he would tell you straight the final price and not raising it up into clouds slowly and slowly? :really:

[Vinnylegends]

Then maybe tell him that he would tell you straight the final price and not raising it up into clouds slowly and slowly? :really:
Yes, He said when he was making the Ferrari wheel:
Dont worry about money now. :shrug:

[MijnWraak]

Yes, He said when he was making the Ferrari wheel:
Dont worry about money now. :shrug:
He probably meant what we would say in english as "we'll cross that bridge when we get to it". I'd say try to work with him, too. Very nice wheel worth the money =)

[bisawelo]

Not what you are speaking and I can assure you that it is the wheel of Ferrari is not worth 100 euros. And he had to be a misunderstanding on your part or theirs, so that you think that was the amount.
And you again, if you want, ask how to make the steering wheel, the Ferrari of the cone bmw, he does not explain in any inconvenience to you or anyone who is interested.
But do not forget the inconvenience of language. Greetings

[Falcon140]

Well, when the actual wheel on the car costs around 40000 euros, did you expect to get a replica for 100? I'm sorry you got screwed, but such a nice product would never be that cheap.

[Vinnylegends]

Well, when the actual wheel on the car costs around 40000 euros, did you expect to get a replica for 100? I'm sorry you got screwed, but such a nice product would never be that cheap.
Im sure I can make a deal with him, Dont worry.

[Falcon140]

I surely hope so. It really is a stunning wheel and I'd hate to see it go to waste. Best of luck to you. :thumb:

[pololo40]

Hello

Vinny, I am very surprised to read this post and see that it has made public a private email I wrote to vinnylegends, I very much regret the misunderstanding but the wheel has already owner.
If anyone intends to make one, would be happy to assist.

Greetings

Hola

Estóy muy sorprendido al leer este post y ver que se ha hecho público un email privado que he escrito a vinnylegends, Lamento mucho el malentendido pero el volante ya tiene dueño.
Si alguien tiene intención de hacer uno, estaría encantado de ayudarle.

Saludos

[Vinnylegends]

Hello

Vinny, I am very surprised to read this post and see that it has made public a private email I wrote to vinnylegends, I very much regret the misunderstanding but the wheel has already owner.
If anyone intends to make one, would be happy to assist.

Greetings

Hola

Estóy muy sorprendido al leer este post y ver que se ha hecho público un email privado que he escrito a vinnylegends, Lamento mucho el malentendido pero el volante ya tiene dueño.
Si alguien tiene intención de hacer uno, estaría encantado de ayudarle.

Saludos
Weird Leopoldram.
I never got an E-mail back from you.

[Takumi_lfs]

I'm lost. I can't seem to follow this at all.

So, this guy promised you a replica wheel for 100 dollars? He made it but asks for alot more? Dude, let him keep the wheel. Just let him use the wheel instead of a dildo.

[obsolum]

I'm lost. I can't seem to follow this at all.

So, this guy promised you a replica wheel for 100 dollars? He made it but asks for alot more? Dude, let him keep the wheel. Just let him use the wheel instead of a dildo.
He already has another buyer for it or has even already sold it.

[Takumi_lfs]

Ooh! there is another page!? :scratchch

[Vinnylegends]

Well you see people.
Dont trust Leopoldo Ramirez.
He doesnt answer mails for months and sells the wheel when I did might wanna buy either! :really:

[G!NhO]

Jeez what a nub :x

[STF]

bump. any updates on this or that`s that? he sold it to someone else or it was a misunderstanding?
.. just curious.

[Vinnylegends]

He sold it to someone else without telling me. :x

[hansonator69]

Dude that's dog as. Have you already paid?

[Vinnylegends]

No I didnt.
Never trusted the guy. :shrug:

[Uke]

That's just... beatiful :O You must be somkind of wizard or something =P

[Vinnylegends]

http://www.flickr.com/photos/28045408@N07/3377027248/
Could have been mine..
Prick... :(

[JazzOn]

and it yould have been yours if your were not acting like a spoilt kid.

[mcintyrej]

Vinny, I've hope you learnt a lesson in life. If something is too good to be true - it is.

[Vinnylegends]

and it yould have been yours if your were not acting like a spoilt kid.
WTF?
I had the money to buy the wheel.
The real price.
But then he raised the price.
Really there is nothing spoiled about that you idiot. :really:

[JazzOn]

WTF?
I had the money to buy the wheel.
The real price.
But then he raised the price.
Really there is nothing spoiled about that you idiot. :really:

You could have cleared the situation by asking again. Thinking that all this stuff for 100€ ??

You are actually the idiot, because you screwed yourself. You abviously didn`t learnt your lesson...

[Vinnylegends]

You could have cleared the situation by asking again. Thinking that all this stuff for 100€ ??

You are actually the idiot, because you screwed yourself. You abviously didn`t learnt your lesson...
You dont know a f*ck what went on.
I was sending him like 1000000 E-Mails and never got an answer.
So who's the idiot now?

[Scrabby]

what does that matter....
First of all, you two had to communicate better about the pricing and should have read the answers twice or more before replying so happily.
Better luck next time :)

[Vinnylegends]

what does that matter....
First of all, you two had to communicate better about the pricing and should have read the answers twice or more before replying so happily.
Better luck next time :)
I was sending him emails every day so not my fault.

[BlakjeKaas]

I was sending him emails every day so not my fault.
True,
but reading the e-mails was a lot harder, since the guy doesn't speak english as a native language.
Find someone you CAN understand, and who will do the job for you.
You may be set back a bit more, but if the communication is good, you will have no problems like the one you just had.

[1993weeman]

You dont know a f*ck what went on.
I was sending him like 1000000 E-Mails and never got an answer.
So who's the idiot now?

Maybe you had the wrong E-mail address, just an idea like.

[Vinnylegends]

Maybe you had the wrong E-mail address, just an idea like.
No. Because he did reply after maybe 3 months after every email.

[MijnWraak]

No. Because he did reply after maybe 3 months after every email.
Maybe he doesn't check his emails often. Maybe should have asked for a different form of communication.

:X

[JazzOn]

You dont know a f*ck what went on.
I was sending him like 1000000 E-Mails and never got an answer.
So who's the idiot now?

thats the point i was on about. If you talk to people like that im not surprised that you dont get an answer. In the quote of the mail you got from him, he stated that you dont really appreciate his work. You just wanted, wanted, wanted ...
He probably gone up with the price, because he didnt had an overview first as it might be the first time he built an steering wheel or you both didnt made clear whats had to be included.
Whatever.. I`d have liked to see it in action. Im sorry for you but you have ruined it youself. So dont insult people because of you own mistakes (just an advice ;))

1000000 emails on the other hand was probably just too much as he had trouble answering them all :P (joking!)

[Vinnylegends]

thats the point i was on about. If you talk to people like that im not surprised that you dont get an answer. In the quote of the mail you got from him, he stated that you dont really appreciate his work. You just wanted, wanted, wanted ...
He probably gone up with the price, because he didnt had an overview first as it might be the first time he built an steering wheel or you both didnt made clear whats had to be included.
Whatever.. I`d have liked to see it in action. Im sorry for you but you have ruined it youself. So dont insult people because of you own mistakes (just an advice ;))

1000000 emails on the other hand was probably just too much as he had trouble answering them all :P (joking!)
I did appreciate it.
But he had like periods of weeks or months where he didnt answer and he made a deadline to make it wich he went over with like a year or so.

[Scrabby]

So?
U don't want people to annoy you while you are working on their product or do you?. Appereantly u need to learn what patience is and just wait till he replies. To make such a product decent it needs, time time and time!
U also still don't seem to be understanding that is was your fault for the biggest part. And if i had a instant buyer my choice was made quickly
Good paying costumer > Unpatient costumer
Besides that the guy would also have another job that ALSO takes time.

[Vinnylegends]

So?
U don't want people to annoy you while you are working on their product or do you?. Appereantly u need to learn what patience is and just wait till he replies. To make such a product decent it needs, time time and time!
U also still don't seem to be understanding that is was your fault for the biggest part. And if i had a instant buyer my choice was made quickly
Good paying costumer > Unpatient costumer
Besides that the guy would also have another job that ALSO takes time.
Scrabby. You dont know who I am.
What I am in Real life.
Nor do you know how it all went so youre not in a position to judge.
Lets just stop about this nonsense.
Moderator.
Lock Please.

[sil3ntwar]

In the end you didnt lose anything so dont worry about it!

[Vinnylegends]

In the end you didnt lose anything so dont worry about it!
You're absolutely right! :)

[bisawelo]

Hello.
I command a few videos of the steering wheel of contention.
See for yourself if this is worth over 100 euros.
As I said, language is sometimes a handicap. Greetings to all ..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npRnI2e7J7Y
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3TdLtaxREc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKnSGXK4Yyg

[Vinnylegends]

Do i even want to see that!!!!! :really:

[dadge]

are you the only person who views this forum? :really:

[Vinnylegends]

are you the only person who views this forum? :really:
It is meant for me.

[dadge]

Hello.
I command a few videos of the steering wheel of contention.
See for yourself if this is worth over 100 euros.
As I said, language is sometimes a handicap. Greetings to all ..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npRnI2e7J7Y
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3TdLtaxREc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKnSGXK4Yyg

nope, i can't see your name in that post. must be for the whole forum to see.

[Vinnylegends]

nope, i can't see your name in that post. must be for the whole forum to see.
See for yourself its worth 100 euros.
That is meant for me.

[EliteAti]

See for yourself its worth 100 euros.
That is meant for me.

yeah, its thrustmaster... :shrug:

[dadge]

well, i actually followed the instructions gived by bisawelo. i saw the video for myself and i too feel that the wheel is worth alot more than €100. does this mean the video was also meant for me too?
i've been following this thread and you'd have to be an idiot to think this wheel is not worth more than €100.
but you know what they say about idiots; never argue with them, they'll bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.

[Vinnylegends]

well, i actually followed the instructions gived by bisawelo. i saw the video for myself and i too feel that the wheel that has been ade is worth alot more than €100. does this mean the video was also meant for me too?
i've been following this thread you'd have to be an idiot to think this wheel is not worth more than €100.
but you know what they say about idiots; never argue with them, they'll bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.
Well I was gonna stop this stupid discussion so its good.

[dadge]

and again, this is a public forum. you may of started the thread, but others may want to continue the discussion. and hense bisawelo posting vids for the other members to see his work in action.
i hope this is making sense to you and you don't seem to understand what a public discussion involves.

EDIT: if bisawelo wanted only you to see the videos, he could of responded to one of your 1000000 emails you sent him. or maybe PM'd you. that's why i think the vids were meant for all to see and not just you.

[pearcy_2k7]

Vinny just showing his spoilt brat attitude again, "ITS MINE" "I WANT IT NOW"! kind of bs, seriously, grow the f*** up!

[dadge]

i was trying to take a less direct route but yeah, same point lol.

[Vinnylegends]

and again, this is a public forum. you may of started the thread, but others may want to continue the discussion. and hense bisawelo posting vids for the other members to see his work in action.
i hope this is making sense to you and you don't seem to understand what a public discussion involves.

EDIT: if bisawelo wanted only you to see the videos, he could of responded to one of your 1000000 emails you sent him. or maybe PM'd you. that's why i think the vids were meant for all to see and not just you.
Bisalwelo didnt make the wheel.
It was Leopoldo.

And uhm Pearcy.
I think I'm more grown up then you.
There are many forum members here who are just amazed by your own attitude and not mine.

[dadge]

and how is that relevent to my post? you still don't have the wheel, you're still throwing a hissy fit. the wheel is still worth over €100,
the vids were not made for you.

[pearcy_2k7]

Bisalwelo didnt make the wheel.
It was Leopoldo.

And uhm Pearcy.
I think I'm more grown up then you.
There are many forum members here who are just amazed by your own attitude and not mine.

Ok then, my attitude comes out with people like you, ill say what i think, whether your infront of me or on the forum. You won't get anywhere screaming like a toddler.

[mclarenmatt]

Ok then, my attitude comes out with people like you, ill say what i think, whether your infront of me or on the forum. You won't get anywhere screaming like a toddler.

Haha ownage :smileypul

The wheel is really nice, shame I don't like Ferrari or have the money.

[STF]

This is useless, the discussion.
You clearly don`t know the entire story, neither do I. But let`s speculate:

Not wanna stick up for vinny or something, but from what i understood, if i understood correctly, when leopoldo was asked for a price, he hesitated in giving a clear answer: "don`t worry" etc.
For he`d been straight from the very beginning, saying "sure, i`ll cost [1...x]00euro", none of this would have hapenned, useless discussions.. vinny would have had to either suck it up and make the payment, or turn down the offer.
He seems like the kind of man willing to spend [1...x]00euro for something, should he wish that. It`s one thing to be told a number, then, when it`s payday, you get that number times five or so. Not cool. Lack or communication or whatever, that isn`t how business is done when you "respect" your customers. Don`t know english ? fine, speak spanish, maybe i`m better at spanish than you at english.. if you know what i mean.
Also the spoiled brat kinda talk makes me really sick, how you can judge a man you know nothing about. I think you`re confusing someone iritated, with a little cash, with something else. or maybe he is one, i don`t know. When i think about it, how i never had any spare money in my young days other than say.. few euros at times.. few and far between, i wish i were a spoiled brat. Guess everyone secretly wished that, one time in their life, ain`t that what`s it all about? Enjoying life? In your own little world? meh.

What would you do if your car broke, you go to a mechanic, he tells you "it's ONLY going to cost 50 bucks".. and when you come to pick it up, with 50 bucks.. he asks for 300? that`s how i see it.

now.. back, sorry i drifted, "IM" is easier, my guess is.. any kind of publicity is.. publicity, and this is what it`s all about imo. You`ve seen it completed now, hundreds of other people saw it too. vinny or not in the picture, it started rolling now.. the wheel is a masterpiece, it will be some demand.. I just hope it gets to the point where fabrication/assembly costs are divided over a large number of pieces, and the potential customer is able to buy it at a decent price. Hand jobs suck, they tend to overprice it.


and now sorry for any misspellings if any, since english ain`t really my first language.. but i gotta run.

[MijnWraak]

What would you do if your car broke, you go to a mechanic, he tells you "it's ONLY going to cost 50 bucks".. and when you come to pick it up, with 50 bucks.. he asks for 300? that`s how i see it. Well it's more like the mechanic saying "well, the base part cost $50, and I'm unsure how many hours of work and the amount of money the other parts are going to cost, so don't worry about it for now, we'll cross that bridge when we get to it." Then the person underestimates to the extreme, and when asked for more than he thought he would have to pay, isn't willing to negotiate. :schwitz:

[dadge]

i agree, but you can get an impression of the person by how/what the write in public forums.
in this thread alone, i would feel confident when i say that vinny exagerates ( 1000000 emails). he probs sent closer to 10-20 emails which being "spoiled" and impatient would feel like 1000000. bombarding someone (with limited english) with lots of emails has only made things worse imo. if after 2 emails vinny didn't get a responce, he should of tried to communicate with someone who could act as a middle man. but instead, vinny kept spamming the guy. i would hazard a guess that some of vinnys emails may of been quite rude/aggressive. so aye, i think that when users said that vinny has a "spoiled" attitude, it would be quite accurate.
taking a car to a garage for £50 repairs and ending up with a bigger bill is not as uncommon as you think. have you ever upgraded your pc with a budget only to spend more than you planned? have you ever gone out to buy something expecting it to be £x.xx and it ends up being more?
these things happen all the time.

[AlienT.]

Emm, so does anyone actualy use this wheel now?

To be honest the wheel looks like a christmas decoration gone wrong. What are all the switches for, or what would they be used for? As for the wheel clutch then lmao what a pile of poopey doops :)

[amsterdeen]

To be honest the wheel looks like a christmas decoration gone wrong. What are all the switches for, or what would they be used for? As for the wheel clutch then lmao what a pile of poopey doops :)
LoL - It's not my thing either! I prefer the good, old, standard G25 config!
Unlike some, I can live with 2 buttons on the front :P hehe

Also the spoiled brat kinda talk makes me really sick, how you can judge a man you know nothing about. I think you`re confusing someone iritated, with a little cash, with something else. or maybe he is one, i don`t know.
I'm not gonna pretend I know Vincent really well, as obviously, I only know him from what I've seen on LFS and the forums, however, from everything I've seen of Vinny previously (and now), you can rest assured that he certainly does act like a spoiled kid!


It probably isn't required, wanted or relevant, but maybe you should know some background information:

He used to be in the team I'm currently part of (approx 6 months ago, if that) and throughout his presence in it, caused complete anarchy in the team due to his obnoxiously childish and incompetent behaviour toward just about everyone! He VERY quickly became an unbearable annoyance in the server and it was evident that the rest of the team disliked him completely (maybe something to do with money cheating on our server within days of becoming a trial applicant!? However, unlike the usual permaban that would be imposed, we (somehow) allowed him to stay in the team due to the fact we were trying to understand this simple, yet complexly childlike mind).

Although a few of us (including myself, several times) attempted to make him realise that his attitude was the cause of mass revolt in the team, he threw our advice back in our face and ceased to embrace change of any kind. We couldn't have asked our team to be any more patient in trying to accept Vinny's problems/attitude-conflict (thanks team :D), however, with mounting constant problems with him, and questions of "why is he still here!?" and statements like "he is an embarrassment to the team", we had to make a choice in removing him!

Remarkably (and kinda understandably), in a bizaarr twist of textual exchange, he was allowed to remain in our team after threatening harm toward himself if we removed him from it.
Eventually (week or 3 later)... He grew up (not much mind!)! Obviously realising that he'd acted like a fool the whole time and that he was a complete disgrace to himself and our team, he swiftly moved on! Now, he only comes back very rarely to act even more childish than when he was in the team and attempts to cause arguments/conflict (Mostly with me.. Even though I attempted to help him more than most!). Typically childlike! We were just glad to be rid of him from our server, team member or not!

So yes, after experience with all that (which was only a breif summary :P) I think we can safely say that we are dealing with a stubborn, impatient, hormonal child, rather than someone just aggitated about a few euro's..

I agree with Dadge to the fullest.. I can imagine the manufacturer of this wheel getting harrassed by email after email of poorly communicated, arrogant/rude text and eventually, after realising Vinny was expecting the 'Mona Lisa' of wheel replica's for 100eu, decided to sell it to someone with more patience, appreciation and expectation of value for the item in question.

The fact that an email from the manufacturer has been aired in public is really silly also.. Regardless of what stage your purchase was at, this shows complete disrespect regarding general business formality.
Which, speaking of, where is the purchase order or contract for the work you were requesting Vinny?? If this guy is how I imagine.. Someone who builds these wheel replica's in his free time and as a hobby.. I don't know what you expected for 100euro, especially in a minimal number of months work??

If you ask me, the wheel is better being sold to someone else who can fully appreciate it and has the patience to wait for it! Plus, with all this cash Vincent allegedly has, I'm sure he won't have a problem finding someone else willing to create his wetdream in more professional and controlled terms.

Anyway, you should learn from this Vinny...
In my personal opinion and experience though, you probably wont!

Best Regards,
STiG

[AbsolutMartini]

That wheel just looks awesome, respect for the work you have put into it. :tilt:

[zeugnimod]

There are many forum members here who are just amazed by your own attitude and not mine.

His is miles better than yours.

My opinion. :tilt:

[dadge]

yeah, that was a bit of an "i know you are but what am i" statement. quite fitting given the discussion.

[D.Zanetti]

Well the best thing to do is to add him to your ignore list, instead of giving him the attention he so desperately craves. I put him onto mine last year after his saftey car actions (http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?p=995937#post995937).

Great work with the wheel Leopoldo, fantástico!!!

[Vinnylegends]

i agree, but you can get an impression of the person by how/what the write in public forums.
in this thread alone, i would feel confident when i say that vinny exagerates ( 1000000 emails). he probs sent closer to 10-20 emails which being "spoiled" and impatient would feel like 1000000. bombarding someone (with limited english) with lots of emails has only made things worse imo. if after 2 emails vinny didn't get a responce, he should of tried to communicate with someone who could act as a middle man. but instead, vinny kept spamming the guy. i would hazard a guess that some of vinnys emails may of been quite rude/aggressive. so aye, i think that when users said that vinny has a "spoiled" attitude, it would be quite accurate.
taking a car to a garage for £50 repairs and ending up with a bigger bill is not as uncommon as you think. have you ever upgraded your pc with a budget only to spend more than you planned? have you ever gone out to buy something expecting it to be £x.xx and it ends up being more?
these things happen all the time.
I did have a Middle man to contact him.
I had like wel.. 3 middle man's. They were sending him E-mails all the time too and he did not answer them.

[Vinnylegends]

Remarkably (and kinda understandably), in a bizaarr twist of textual exchange, he was allowed to remain in our team after threatening harm toward himself if we removed him from it.

Yeh. I admit that part but it isn't fully 100% percent correct.
I was in a really depressing time of my life. And kinda annoyed you guys with that. That is long over now.
Maybe it is the way of communicating here on the forum or not or my lack of English knowledge. But that's how I sum it up.
But thank you Amsterdeen for the very long story.
I have talked to Mike about that quite a time ago and I will not tell anything about that wich we discussed.
But this huge flamewars has to stop someway.
And I know just the way how to.
I will not return to this forum for any stupid discussion whatsoever regarding I or someone else has started it.
So goodbye guys! Have fun in LFS! :thumb:

[dadge]

so, there was 4 people spamming his inbox? sounds more like an interegation than a request for info.
your last post is interesting. still not going to admit you handled this whole thing wrong? and your english looks fine to me.

[Vinnylegends]

so, there was 4 people spamming his inbox? sounds more like an interegation than a request for info.
your last post is interesting. still not going to admit you handled this whole thing wrong? and your english looks fine to me.
I did handle this wrong Dadge. I have thought about this whole thing.

[MijnWraak]

I will not return to this forum for any stupid discussion whatsoever regarding I or someone else has started it.
So goodbye guys! Have fun in LFS! :thumb:

I did handle this wrong Dadge. I have thought about this whole thing.
You've been saying you will end it, and will leave, for how long now? And you KEEP returning.

Hm...:smileypul:scratchch

[Vinnylegends]

You've been saying you will end it, and will leave, for how long now? And you KEEP returning.

Hm...:smileypul:scratchch
No mate I never said I would... although I dont know it.

[dadge]

I will not return to this forum for any stupid discussion whatsoever regarding I or someone else has started it.
So goodbye guys! Have fun in LFS! :thumb:....

[amsterdeen]

I have talked to Mike about that quite a time ago and I will not tell anything about that wich we discussed.
I and others have no interest in what was discussed, and you can rest assured that Mike would never disclose such private information to anyone.

I will not return to this forum for any stupid discussion whatsoever regarding I or someone else has started it.
So goodbye guys! Have fun in LFS! :thumb:
I think you are taking it all to far as usual.. Why limit yourself to such a silly comment like "I will not return"?

In my opinion your english is pretty good, however presented wrongly and often gives a negative impression. It makes it seem like you have an attitude problem. I still feel it to this day, not just since your team days.. Which inevitably was the cause of annoyance for many im sure.

Anyway I pretty much said all I wanted to say previously, however, I think you should reconsider such a bold statement as "I will not return"! That wasn't the intention of my or any others posts.. You are just taking it further than required.

Regards,
STiG

[Takumi_lfs]

In the end you didnt lose anything so dont worry about it!

Had to quote this one.

Now its time for the locky lock!

[teedot]

What a bloody farce this thread is!

Vinny, you are so arrogant -- 100EU for a wheel as complex as that? You must be on crack :really: IMO that wheel - considering the amount of handiwork and time that has gone into it - would be more in the range of 1000EU NOT 100EU....


I will not return to this forum for any stupid discussion whatsoever regarding I or someone else has started it.
So goodbye guys! Have fun in LFS!

...dont let the door hit you on the way out :tilt:

[pololo40]

Hi:

Let us put aside all kinds of controversy, this much I feel misunderstood.
I leave a video on the wheel running.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcaQluv52jw

Greetings

[DevilDare]

Nice one! Looks really good :thumb:

[Migz]

Hi:

Let us put aside all kinds of controversy, this much I feel misunderstood.
I leave a video on the wheel running.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcaQluv52jw

Greetings

(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcaQluv52jw)
Wtf?
Your posts are bassicly "Oh Vinny look at this video, look at what you couldve had, hahaha in your face"
Which i find rather evil.

[pololo40]

Well, if you say so ....

[mcintyrej]

Wtf?
Your posts are bassicly "Oh Vinny look at this video, look at what you couldve had, hahaha in your face"
Which i find rather evil.

Not really, if I were him I'd want to prove to the rest of the forum that I could make a very high quality product, should anyone else think of buying one.

[Migz]

Not really, if I were him I'd want to prove to the rest of the forum that I could make a very high quality product, should anyone else think of buying one.
So why does he not just create another thread offering to create people another high quality product? And post his videos ect in there?

[pingy72]

So why does he not just create another thread offering to create people another high quality product? And post his videos ect in there?

I don't think you see the point of him posting that video :shrug:

[Vinnylegends]

Well he said the wheel had found a new owner...
Then why does he still have it? :shrug:

[DevilDare]

Why does it matter to you? :really: Maybe he decided to keep it 'cos it came out really nicely or something....

[Vinnylegends]

Why does it matter to you? :really: Maybe he decided to keep it 'cos it came out really nicely or something....
Dont know mate..
He already has like I dont know... 5 wheels? :(

[EliteAti]

Wtf?
Your posts are bassicly "Oh Vinny look at this video, look at what you couldve had, hahaha in your face"
Which i find rather evil.

hes playing rfactor too ffs :schwitz:

[pololo40]

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[spyshagg]

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fantastic wheel

saludos :smileypul