Test Patch Z6 - online compatible (no VW)

[Scawen]

WARNING : THIS IS A TEST

NOTE : THE VW SCIROCCO IS NOT INCLUDED


Hello Racers, here is a new Test Patch : Z6.

It is fully online compatible with version Z.
You can view hotlap replays made in version Z.

ABS brakes have been added to 5 cars (as a setup option) so for now you cannot upload hotlaps made in Z6.

The crash in D3D8.dll was related to shadows.
The main fix was a line of code to make sure the crash cannot happen.
Shadows are also no longer rendered if they are not going to be visible.

Please keep a backup of your LFS.exe from version Z so you can go back to Z if there are any problems


Changes in TEST PATCH Z6 :

ABS brakes removed from XF GTI
FIX : Crash in D3D8.dll (related to shadows)

KNOWN ISSUES :

LX4 number plate goes through spare tyre
Flickering wheel colour when changing rims colour
Shadows have a flickering outline on some graphics cards

CAN'T REPRODUCE :

Mouse steering only full lock after SHIFT+F4

Changes in TEST PATCH Z5 :

New language included : Español Latino (still need to add a flag)
FIX : Crash on closing LFS from multiplayer while tyres displayed
FIX : Shadow stretching bug on some graphics cards

Changes in TEST PATCH Z4 :

FIX : Polygon errors seen on some graphics cards
FIX : It was impossible to join an online race with a demo car

Changes in TEST PATCH Z3 :

Updated wheels on Formula BMW
Implemented ABS brakes in XFG / XRG / RB4 / FXO / XRT / FZ5
Improved wheel drawing system including rotating brake discs
Improved shadows - sharper and ambient shadow effect now included
InSim : New packets to start / search replays and take screenshots
FIX : Player name was wrong in entry screen on entry or after replay
FIX : Added checks to prevent guests joining with no user name or ID
FIX : OOS starting race after joining autocross host in entry screen


DOWNLOADS :

PATCH Z to Z6 (Version Z must already be installed) :
www.liveforspeed.net/file_lfs.php?name=LFS_PATCH_Z_TO_Z6.exe (1.6 MB)

[Velociround]

Awesome!
Thank you Scawen!

[rc10racer]

Still got the shadow problem which i reported and 3 other people have reported with Z5 on ATI cards with crossfire enabled.

EDIT: my bad i never read the known issues part.

[Aid]

Skid Pad bug still on but now i can't even close to one of the gates. Car get shot in a space about 10m away from gate and when falls it get stuck in a gate and jumps again.

[Scawen]

Skid Pad bug still on but now i can't even close to one of the gates. Car get shot in a space about 10m away from gate and when falls it get stuck in a gate and jumps again.Please could you try that with your LFS.exe from version Z?

The reason I ask is that the physics should not have changed at all (apart from allowing ABS).

[Scawen]

Still got the shadow problem which i reported and 3 other people have reported with Z5 on ATI cards with crossfire enabled.

EDIT: my bad i never read the known issues part.Yes, that one in your helicopter view screen shot is the known issue.

But what is the problem in the behind car view? I can't see a problem there,

[UnknownMaster21]

Skid Pad bug still on but now i can't even close to one of the gates. Car get shot in a space about 10m away from gate and when falls it get stuck in a gate and jumps again.

Physics problems I guess?

or something weird...

Anyway...I have got a super computer, which is very powerfull and my fps is about 300 - 400

I have not got any problems BUT ONE!!!

I found this:


When playing LFS at first time (means you start lfs.exe and go driving), the controller doesn´t work perfectly, at start have to calibrate axes to spin them as much as possible, then it works normally...

I have Windows Vista Sp1, Premium
Controller: Logitech Rumblepad 2 (2007 year)
Bug: At start have to calibrate your axes. Buttons work perfectly...

I hope this helps you a bit

[Scawen]

Physics problems I guess?

or something weird...

Anyway...I have got a super computer, which is very powerfull and my fps is about 300 - 400

I have not got any problems BUT ONE!!!

I found this:


When playing LFS at first time (means you start lfs.exe and go driving), the controller doesn´t work perfectly, at start have to calibrate axes to spin them as much as possible, then it works normally...I think you need to click "lock" in the controls screen, after you have spun all the axes. That lock is preserved next time you load LFS.

The "lock" button is in the axes section below "recalibrate axes".

[UnknownMaster21]

I think you need to click "lock" in the controls screen, after you have spun all the axes. That lock is preserved next time you load LFS.


Hmmm... I try it right now... I tell then what´s the problem - if has any

[UnknownMaster21]

OK... No problem anymore... thank you for help


Just car got stalled, hehe, wrong alert sorry

[Aid]

Yes.. I tried Z and its the same car gets in jumpy mode near gates. Is it just me? Anybody else tried that?

Also gears cannot be changed and rev counter jumps from 0 to 1000 rpm at 5 Hz

[UnknownMaster21]

Yes.. I tried Z and its the same car gets in jumpy mode near gates. Is it just me? Anybody else tried that?


I try it now that too

[Trekkerfahrer]

Still got the shadow problem which i reported and 3 other people have reported with Z5 on ATI cards with crossfire enabled.

EDIT: my bad i never read the known issues part.

have checked it at a friends pc:
use the omega drivers and there is no problem, with normal catalyst he has the same too

he has two 4850 in crossfire mode

[UnknownMaster21]

ummm... did you mean this gate?




EDIT: that´s always have been if you meaned that gate

[Aid]

it happens at both gates.. i didn't know it was like this all the time i was working on setup yesterday and i got close to gate and it happened. Its Skid Pad so it doesn't matter there are more important things to do now :)

[UnknownMaster21]

it happens at both gates.. i didn't know it was like this all the time i was working on setup yesterday and i got close to gate and it happened. Its Skid Pad so it doesn't matter there are most impoortant things now :)


yea :). Developers have not got time to fix that little unphysical thing...

...But it doesn´t matter me :)

[mkinnov8]

Yes.. I tried Z and its the same car gets in jumpy mode near gates. Is it just me? Anybody else tried that?

Also gears cannot be changed and rev counter jumps from 0 to 1000 rpm at 5 Hz

I can confirm this on patch Z (just Z no test patches).

The first screenshot shows no texture (or the tarmac doesnt have the properties of tarmac at that point). The second showing the part of the road which is falldown-able.

[UnknownMaster21]

For Scawen, I´ve got some info which is good for you


LX6´s tyres are flickering when changing the rim colors:

Actually it has with all cars...

I tested them

[shiny_red_cobra]

Hey Scawen, since you're fixing shadow bugs, how about fixing this one too?

Shadow disappears when you go on that raised grass at autocross, it even disappears when you're only partially on the grass.

[rc10racer]

Yes, that one in your helicopter view screen shot is the known issue.

But what is the problem in the behind car view? I can't see a problem there,

Hmmm not sure what happened but the issue sometimes sorts itself out by tapping into different views.

[rc10racer]

I can confirm this on patch Z (just Z no test patches).

The first screenshot shows no texture (or the tarmac doesnt have the properties of tarmac at that point). The second showing the part of the road which is falldown-able.

Thats been there for along time, happens alot if you go into different parts off the autocross.

[mkinnov8]

Yep, just "discovered" it myself and it was kinda relevent so thought i'd mention it. :)

[senn]

+1 all cars wheel colour flicker

+1 skidpad near the gates bug (not a huge prob tho, i'd rather more proper updates :P )

[Flame CZE]

+1 all cars wheel colour flicker

+1 skidpad near the gates bug (not a huge prob tho, i'd rather more proper updates :P )
Yes, when you are changing colour od car body of rims, it's a little bit lagging (wokrs with all cars) but I don't really care. The colour changes :)

[Speedy Pro]

Hi Scawen,

Not sure if this requires immediate attention, but since new brake disc textures were introduced, you may want to take a look. I'm running the smokemod from keygetys. The XRG was in reverse, so the dust/gravel was flying from the rears to the front of the car, and as this dust passes through the front wheels, the disc becomes a square. The car was moving.
This doesn't show up during normal driving. The view is TV.

Same thing happens for XFG when moving forward and dust flies to the rears.


Thanks!

73247

73248

[Flame CZE]

Probably it's because it's an alpha channel texture which the dust can't go through.

[ACCAkut]

ABS can stay on permanently after applying handbrake

eh, did you add that after my statement? This happens to my RL VW Lupo, but not in LFS:razz: I wrote that as part off the offtopic discussion

[foopower]

Still got the shadow problem which i reported and 3 other people have reported with Z5 on ATI cards with crossfire enabled.

EDIT: my bad i never read the known issues part.

Me too GPU: ATi Raedon 9200

[Mikko1]

so why you deleted ABS on XF GTI ?? :scratchch
but what patch is there have a VW?? take a images and send it to another topic...

Scawen rocks again :shy:


Edit:http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?p=1009690#post1009690

okay Ripley :)

[Krammeh]

I have been trying to work out why the OOS - SET bug occurs and kicks every single player in the server that is running the >Z4 test patch.

We seem to have narrowed it down to whenever someone a certain user (buickid) in the replay, comes out onto the track. We seemed to work it out that it was the guys setup that was causing the issue. After a bit of testing.

I have attached a replay of when it happened. we did try it numerous times, and worked out that it was the setup that was causing the issue. it does not kick non Z4/5/6 users when doing it.

[Karl Morytz]

Hey Scawen, since you're fixing shadow bugs, how about fixing this one too?

Shadow disappears when you go on that raised grass at autocross, it even disappears when you're only partially on the grass.

i found this:
The D3D8 crash is now fixed in Z6.
Shadow rendering is avoided when the shadow would be invisible (e.g. round a corner or over a hill).

[foopower]

Did you photoshop it or you modified it??? I can't seem to find this kind of problem...:shrug:

[foopower]

For Scawen, I´ve got some info which is good for you


LX6´s tyres are flickering when changing the rim colors:

Actually it has with all cars...

I tested them

I know a little programming. And what kind of problem is that... Where to fix it??? Can anyone tell me so I can help Mr. Scawen out:scratchch:nod:


Hey Scawen, since you're fixing shadow bugs, how about fixing this one too?

Shadow disappears when you go on that raised grass at autocross, it even disappears when you're only partially on the grass.

That problem exisist since Patch Z(or earlier???) :smileyrai

[UnknownMaster21]

For Scawen, I´ve got some info which is good for you


LX6´s rims are flickering when changing the rim colors:

Actually it has with all cars...

I tested them

Bumping this post for Scawen for he can notice this easier

[Ripley]

so why you deleted ABS on XF GTI ??....
http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?p=1009690#post1009690

[Scawen]

eh, did you add that after my statement? This happens to my RL VW Lupo, but not in LFS:razz: I wrote that as part off the offtopic discussionThanks for clearing that up, can remove it from my bug sheet! :tilt:

I have been trying to work out why the OOS - SET bug occurs and kicks every single player in the server that is running the >Z4 test patch.

We seem to have narrowed it down to whenever someone a certain user (buickid) in the replay, comes out onto the track. We seemed to work it out that it was the guys setup that was causing the issue. After a bit of testing.

I have attached a replay of when it happened. we did try it numerous times, and worked out that it was the setup that was causing the issue. it does not kick non Z4/5/6 users when doing it.Thank you for this, the OOS bug must be caused by something different from what I thought it was.

I'll try to figure this out.

EDIT : I've saved out the setup from the replay and can reproduce the OOS now...

Bumping this post for Scawen for he can notice this easierNo need, I read these test patches quite carefully and make notes as I go, even if I don't reply to every report.

[UnknownMaster21]

No need, I read these test patches quite carefully and make notes as I go, even if I don't reply to every report.


Ok... No problem :)

[Doorman]

What happens if a Z5 client joins a server with XFGs, does he still have ABS?

[UnknownMaster21]

What happens if a Z5 client joins a server with XFGs, does he still have ABS?


I have tested... and yes, they have an ABS, but I think it´s not working, didn´t tested it... I just got racing about it

[dustthatass]

Another good work by Scavier!!! Downloading!!!

[J@tko]

I have tested... and yes, they have an ABS, but I think it´s not working, didn´t tested it... I just got racing about it
I've got Z5 I think, and ABS works fine in XFG on Race 1 :shrug:

[UnknownMaster21]

I've got Z5 I think, and ABS works fine in XFG on Race 1 :shrug:


So it works on when joining only Z patch version server with Z5?

[Coneman]

I Don't know if it's really a bug.
Maybe it's a known "old" problem which was already posted. I just drove some laps on BW in the TV view (Z6). Well i can't describe it that good. Looks like the racing line texture isn't exactly on the ground. Therefore it appears on the tires. Watch the screenshots. On the second picture only the reartire is on the racingline (green line).

[UnknownMaster21]

I Don't know if it's really a bug.
Maybe it's a known "old" problem which was already posted. I just drove some laps on BW in the TV view (Z6). Well i can't describe it that good. Looks like the racing line texture isn't exactly on the ground. Therefore it appears on the tires. Watch the screenshots. On the second picture only the reartire is on the racingline (green line).


I think it´s just a shadow...

But it looks like it´s drowned on ground :)

[Drift King CZ]

Why was ABS brakes removed from XFG? Was it too hard to fix it, or devs just changed mind, that XFG shouldn't have it?

[Mikko1]

Why was ABS brakes removed from XFG? Was it too hard to fix it, or devs just changed mind, that XFG shouldn't have it?

i'm ask this question and this is answer...

http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?p=1009690#post1009690
:thumbsup:

[hda]

I Don't know if it's really a bug.
Maybe it's a known "old" problem which was already posted. I just drove some laps on BW in the TV view (Z6). Well i can't describe it that good. Looks like the racing line texture isn't exactly on the ground. Therefore it appears on the tires. Watch the screenshots. On the second picture only the reartire is on the racingline (green line).

that has been reported in the past but I think it's either that or having the optimal line under the ground :)

[teeembo]

Scawen,

On the ABS discussion;

I think cars in same class should have the same ABS option (ie. XFG XRG) - also the XFG is likely to be the first car people drive (before they buy their G25 etc :)) so they need easy braking that doesn't put them off.

Getting to the point, I think the only answer is to have two types of ABS:-

Type 1 - Simple ABS (low frequency, few channels, etc) - XFG / XRG (maybe TBO class). This should lengthen stopping distances but allow easy control. When people develop their driving and realise that it's quicker to turn it off and learn to brake, they will develop skills which will help them with the faster cars.

Type 2 - Advanced ABS - FZ5 / VWS. Sophisticated system for these higher end/newer cars.

Obviously you would have to change the threshhold braking lesson in some way (force the ABS off of change the car).

(Sorry for the rant - I am a regular reader but it's the first time I've felt compelled to comment. Also I know I am suggesting more coding but it seems you have a littlle more time now :)).

T

[Pablo.CZ]

You can view hotlap replays made in version Z.

I still have problems with SPR Z replays, I get replay OOS error.
(replay me+AIs, error in 15.29s - uploading now)

[Scawen]

Thanks for the testing. Z7 is now available.

InSim : Traction Control and ABS are now reported in IS_NPL packet
FIX : Setup related multiplayer OOS bugs affecting test patch users
ATTEMPTED FIX : Flickering shadow outline on some graphics drivers

http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=51567