iTCC - The Touring Car Championship

[Joe_Keaveney]

Hello racers,

DOWNLOAD THE RACE REPLAYS HERE (http://www.itcc.iconracing.co.uk/downloads/iTCC%20Pre-Season%20Replays.rar)

After many weeks of preparation the ICON Racing (http://iconracing.co.uk) team would like to invite potential participants for a touring-car race series taking part in early 2009:

The iTCC Touring Car Championship (http://www.itcc.iconracing.co.uk)

The car used will be the FXR, air intake-restricted to 32% to give 320 BHP. This is a sequential geared car, with similar power to modern touring cars. There is scope to expand the championship to include the FXO in seperate support races, however initially we will be concentrating on the FXR class.

The idea of this championship is for it be run, as far as is practical, in a similar way to both the BTCC and WTCC. This means a similar race format, with partially 'reversed' grids and also success ballast.

The start of the race will be a standing (grid) start.

It is envisaged that the series will run for 6 'triple-header' rounds. That is to say, there will be 3 points-scoring races at each round - all of equal length; about 25 minutes each.

The races themselves will be available to watch via LFS Remote (http://www.lfsworld.net/remote/) and ICON TV (http://www.iconracing.co.uk/itcctv.htm), which will be broadcasting commentated live in-game coverage. Additionally there will be replay files made available soon after the race, as well as whole race coverage video and edited highlights video, with analysis, coming after the race.

There is a TeamSpeak VOIP channel available for every race, it is envisaged that this will be used primarily as a 'Race-Director-to-Car' driver control, however, teams are free to request private 'team' channels from ICON.

As you can tell, from the work on the website, server, LFS Remote, broadcast facilities, TeamSpeak and so on, what we are trying to do is to 'hit the ground running'.

Therefore, in order to test all our procedures, admin staff, and hardware/software setups, we are inviting racers to declare their interest in the following event:

iTCC - Touring Car Chamionship Pre-Season Warm Up

21st December 2008 - 20:00 UTC(GMT)

at Aston Grand Touring




This event will run to the 'triple-header' format, and it is envisgaed will take no more than 2 hours to complete.

Please register your interest by posting your replies in this thread, also can you please indicate (yes or no) whether the FXO would be a welcome support championship.

Regards,

Joe Keaveney

P.S. Could you also please make any constructive comments as to what or how we can improve the format of this series? Many thanks in advance for any suggestions..:thumb:

P.P.S Lastly, if any of you are talented commentators, I invite you to come along and lend a hand, or should that be voice.....I will be commentating but unfortunately the dulcet tones of my North-East accent do not travel well, I fear my European friends might wonder what language I am speaking....

INTERESTED:

3 J. Atkinson
4 M. Booth
5 A. Zadro
7 T. Falkenberg
8 D. Novak
9 D. Lobb
12 T.Hynninen
13 J.J. Wang
14 M. Lopino
16 T. Oliver
17 D.M.G. Lind
18 J. Jokela
19 Rik de Jong
20 R. Van Buren
21 S. Mathei
22 T. Osterhouse
23 C. Wilkinson
24 B. Grindle
25 M. Macok
26 F. Fredrikkson
27 E.Liibeon
28 A. Carey
29 D. Schulz
30 J. Gingras
32 S. Lees
33 H. Richmond
34 Y. Laprevotte

Reserve Drivers


35 J. Ward
36 P. Doležal
37 M. Mertanen
38 M. Agari
39 N. Gräns
40 I. Abbas
41 S. Moore
6 Andy Kirschetorte

Unable to attend

2 D. Zanetti
10 J. Taylor
11 K. O'Keefe
31 J. Rees

Reserve Drivers will race if any drivers from the initial registration list fail to turn up 15 minutes before Open Practice starts. This will be on a first come, first served basis.

Also DOWNLOAD HERE for the 1024x1024 version (http://www.itcc.iconracing.co.uk/downloads/iTCC%20Pro-Kit.rar) and HERE for the 2048x2048 version (http://www.itcc.iconracing.co.uk/downloads/iTCC%20HIRES%20Pro-Kit.rar) - the Numberplate kit you should use when creating your skins for this race. Please download this and amend your skins. Remember to upload the finished skin to LFS World! :thumb:

EDIT: As you can see, every racer now has a race number. Please make sure your race number is displayed prominently on the supplied numberplate.

Also make sure that your REAL NAME and number is displayed on your 'in-game' name tag in the format:

2 D.Zanetti (for example)

[Bean0]

Possible interest form me, I will speak to the rest of the CR lot.

[Toddshooter]

RSR will be interested for sure. I'll lead the troops here to check it out.
Sounds like a greeat idea.:thumb:

[StableX]

I'm sure a few RSR will do it... I;'m interested:)

[pacesetter]

I will talk to my Revolution touring car team about it :D, but LRFs is my concentration now, maybe run a clio cup (XFG) Ginettas (XRG) FRenault (FOX) too, as support categories ofcourse

[J@tko]

Sounds great. I'll try and make the test event.

If you're having 6 rounds, I presume it will make sense to have 1 round at each of the LFS tracks yah?



P.P.S Lastly, if any of you are talented commentators, I invite you to come along and lend a hand, or should that be voice.....I will be commentating but unfortunately the dulcet tones of my North-East accent does not travel well, I fear my European friends might wonder what language I am speaking....

:scratchch

Mr Passingham/Mr Palmer?

[Joe_Keaveney]

Sounds great. I'll try and make the test event.

If you're having 6 rounds, I presume it will make sense to have 1 round at each of the LFS tracks yah?



:scratchch

Mr Passingham/Mr Palmer?

Yes, that will be the idea, obviously we'll revisit Aston in the series proper.

Suggestions for tracks are welcome, bearing in mind that we're aiming for the middle ground with these cars. Definitely not a track that's too small, we're looking for flowing tracks that help drafting/overtaking. Not something too big though either, big tracks are great in the GT1 cars but not IMO a fantastic spectacle. By keeping to the medium-sized tracks, we can get a good race, without having lots of lapping (small tracks) or stringing the field out (big tracks).

Mr Passingham and Mr Palmer would be MORE than welcome to commentate - I watched their fantastic coverage of the MoE event at the weekend, I must say they both have the gift of keeping a commentary going. I'll PM them shortly to ask.

[J@tko]

Yes, that will be the idea, obviously we'll revisit Aston in the series proper.
So which track is the Pre-season event at? I don't think it was in the OP :)

Tracks IMO:
Blackwood GP
Fern Bay Gold
South City Town Course
Kyoto National
Aston National/North
Westhill International

[Joe_Keaveney]

So which track is the Pre-season event at? I don't think it was in the OP :)


Oops, you're right. Edited now. I realise AS GT is actually a bigger track but we found during testing it did lend itself to a good amount of action. :thumb: So it got the vote.:D

[J@tko]

Oops, you're right. Edited now. I realise AS GT is actually a bigger track but we found during testing it did lend itself to a good amount of action. :thumb: So it got the vote.:D
Sounds good to me :thumbsup:

And, just realised, 32% is the same as CTRA GT2 spec cars, so I can use my sets too :)

[pacesetter]

Sounds good to me :thumbsup:

And, just realised, 32% is the same as CTRA GT2 spec cars, so I can use my sets too :)


Care to share them? :D

[boothy]

Interesting. What was the thinking behind the choice of FXR given that 4WD is not allowed under S2000 rules, 320bhp is 50bhp more powerful than the BTCC, and the general look of the cars is different to the B/WTCC?

For supports - yes definitely FOX (so someone can use my Fortec livery! :D) and a Clio cup style series - XFG or XFR - maybe XFR is more like the SEAT Cupras, while the Ginettas are RWD.

Am interested though, a good touring car racing series is something I've been wanting for a while. :)

[Thunderhead]

This sounds interesting. I might even sign up.

[pacesetter]

Interesting. What was the thinking behind the choice of FXR given that 4WD is not allowed under S2000 rules, 320bhp is 50bhp more powerful than the BTCC, and the general look of the cars is different to the B/WTCC?

For supports - yes definitely FOX (so someone can use my Fortec livery! :D) and a Clio cup style series - XFG or XFR - maybe XFR is more like the SEAT Cupras, while the Ginettas are RWD.

Am interested though, a good touring car racing series is something I've been wanting for a while. :)


no more cupras, and XRG for Ginetta

[Joe_Keaveney]

Interesting. What was the thinking behind the choice of FXR given that 4WD is not allowed under S2000 rules, 320bhp is 50bhp more powerful than the BTCC, and the general look of the cars is different to the B/WTCC?

For supports - yes definitely FOX (so someone can use my Fortec livery! :D) and a Clio cup style series - XFG or XFR - maybe XFR is more like the SEAT Cupras, while the Ginettas are RWD.

Am interested though, a good touring car racing series is something I've been wanting for a while. :)

Good question! Thankyou and let me elaborate :thumb:

Basically we wanted a touring car series using LFS as the simulator. The only two cars which look remotely like touring-cars are the FXO and the FXR.

Having driven both cars, we felt that the FXR more closely reflected a modern racing-car, unfortunately yes it is 4WD. What would have been ideal would be to have a FWD and a RWD 'touring car' but unless there is some way of making the FXR FWD/RWD-only and making that limitation enforceable, then it's a non-runner. So there you have it, our reason for the choice of car.

Also, the benefit of 4WD is that the cars are pretty controllable. We think this will benefit the series in that less effort will be wasted trying to control the car and more effort given to overtaking, and squeezing the maximum performance out of the car. Basically, using the FXR gives us more chance of closer racing, whilst also looking like touring-cars.

We did try limiting the FXR to 40%, but really it was totally undramatic to drive, no fun. There's a reason the CTRA chose 32%, it's the happy medium between power and controllability.

I love the ideas you said about the support series - it just so happens the other series we're organising - an RAC series - fits in with the idea of a support race. Ah, you got me thinking now....... The XFG and FOX series are also interesting too, although now we're talking a day's meeting to do them all and that's an awful lot to broadcast and commentate and admin!

Right now, we're going to see what the level of support is for the iTCC. But sure, let's not rule out the full gamut of support races. It is definitely something I'd like to try.

[Mp3 Astra]

Good question! Thankyou and let me elaborate :thumb:

Basically we wanted a touring car series using LFS as the simulator. The only two cars which look remotely like touring-cars are the FXO and the FXR.

Having driven both cars, we felt that the FXR more closely reflected a modern racing-car, unfortunately yes it is 4WD. What would have been ideal would be to have a FWD and a RWD 'touring car' but unless there is some way of making the FXR FWD/RWD-only and making that limitation enforceable, then it's a non-runner. So there you have it, our reason for the choice of car.

Also, the benefit of 4WD is that the cars are pretty controllable. We think this will benefit the series in that less effort will be wasted trying to control the car and more effort given to overtaking, and squeezing the maximum performance out of the car. Basically, using the FXR gives us more chance of closer racing, whilst also looking like touring-cars.

We did try limiting the FXR to 40%, but really it was totally undramatic to drive, no fun. There's a reason the CTRA chose 32%, it's the happy medium between power and controllability.

I love the ideas you said about the support series - it just so happens the other series we're organising - an RAC series - fits in with the idea of a support race. Ah, you got me thinking now....... The XFG and FOX series are also interesting too, although now we're talking a day's meeting to do them all and that's an awful lot to broadcast and commentate and admin!

Right now, we're going to see what the level of support is for the iTCC. But sure, let's not rule out the full gamut of support races. It is definitely something I'd like to try.

In terms of the FWD/RWD issue, you can alter the setups to make most of the power go to the front or rear, I believe. You can monitor setups, however it would be a very tedious an drawn out process of doing so - basically asking every driver to send you their setup and then checking it after the race. Of course, once the driver has sent you their setup, they would not be allowed to pit or anything like that. Maybe it's possible to make an external program that analyses the setups for you. But since the test event is in 20 days, I wouldn't risk trying to get it done in such a short space of time.

[J@tko]

In terms of the FWD/RWD issue, you can alter the setups to make most of the power go to the front or rear, I believe. You can monitor setups, however it would be a very tedious an drawn out process of doing so - basically asking every driver to send you their setup and then checking it after the race. Of course, once the driver has sent you their setup, they would not be allowed to pit or anything like that. Maybe it's possible to make an external program that analyses the setups for you. But since the test event is in 20 days, I wouldn't risk trying to get it done in such a short space of time.

Yah you can make the FXR up to 95% FWD/RWD with the Torque Splitter.

I was going to say this, but for the reasons ^ I decided not to.

Really looking forward to this.

Hopefully we might see an appearance from our friends D.Lobb and Hypothraxer who showed amazing speed in our 16hour FXR entry :)
For my sake I hope we don't :D

[Joe_Keaveney]

Yah you can make the FXR up to 95% FWD/RWD with the Torque Splitter.

I was going to say this, but for the reasons ^ I decided not to.


For my sake I hope we don't :D

And for those reasons - we'll be sticking to 4WD for now. So J@tko can I presume we'll be seeing an appearance behind the wheel from you?

[J@tko]

Sounds great. I'll try and make the test event.


And for those reasons - we'll be sticking to 4WD for now. So J@tko can I presume we'll be seeing an appearance behind the wheel from you?

:thumb:

Indeed :)

For the real series, depends on what day it is, but I'll try and make it :thumbsup:

[Toddshooter]

Why not take off all the downforce and make them true touring cars?:thumb:
This would lead to some exciting racing.:nod:

[TFalke55]

Sounds great. I'll try and make the test event.

If you're having 6 rounds, I presume it will make sense to have 1 round at each of the LFS tracks yah?



:scratchch

Mr Passingham/Mr Palmer?

some [NDR] team action as racing team ? :thumb:


I'm interested at taking part, as the FXR is one of my favorite cars, and the date is during my x-mas holydays :D this BTCC style sounds interesting

[J@tko]

some [NDR] team action as racing team ? :thumb:


I'm interested at taking part, as the FXR is one of my favorite cars, and the date is during my x-mas holydays :D this BTCC style sounds interesting
Sounds good Falke :thumbsup:

[Hypothraxer]

I'll join as well :) Should be possible for me to make it since I took holidays and don't have to work on 22 - 24.

[Dizzydarryn]

Hey joe, i think this is a great idea. A neat suggestion might also be the use of success ballast like in WTCC whereby the top 3 points scorers (point scorers and not necessarily fastest) after a race weekend receive ballast, 4th highest scorer retains his ballast and positions 5 downwards are allowed to reduce ballast in different amounts.

If you dont mind, im gonna pass this link on to some other guys that race in South Africa.

[Joe_Keaveney]

Hey joe, i think this is a great idea. A neat suggestion might also be the use of success ballast like in WTCC whereby the top 3 points scorers (point scorers and not necessarily fastest) after a race weekend receive ballast, 4th highest scorer retains his ballast and positions 5 downwards are allowed to reduce ballast in different amounts.

If you dont mind, im gonna pass this link on to some other guys that race in South Africa.

FYI, from the WTCC website via Google:

'The imposition of success ballast remains based on different criteria: championship points and race results.

a) according to the Championship points: 1 kg per every point scored

b) according to the sum of points obtained in the two races of each event, according to the following scale:

1st + 30 kg
2nd + 25 kg
3rd + 20 kg
4th + 15 kg
5th + 10 kg
6th + 5 kg

These ballasts will be scrapped and recalculated after each championship event.

Handicap weights a) and b) are cumulative up to a maximum of 70 kg (previously 60 kg).'

Thanks Darryn, yes we're definitely going down the route of success ballast. We've yet to test the amounts of ballast required on the FXR but I'm pretty confident they will be similar to the amounts that the WTCC use.

The WTCC also use a 30 Kg ballast for any driver's first-time entry into the championship, for the driver's first race only - do you think we should use this rule too? I'm currently undecided, so any feedback would be welcome! :thumb:

[TFalke55]

FYI, from the WTCC website via Google:

'The imposition of success ballast remains based on different criteria: championship points and race results.

a) according to the Championship points: 1 kg per every point scored

b) according to the sum of points obtained in the two races of each event, according to the following scale:

1st + 30 kg
2nd + 25 kg
3rd + 20 kg
4th + 15 kg
5th + 10 kg
6th + 5 kg

These ballasts will be scrapped and recalculated after each championship event.

Handicap weights a) and b) are cumulative up to a maximum of 70 kg (previously 60 kg).'

Thanks Darryn, yes we're definitely going down the route of success ballast. We've yet to test the amounts of ballast required on the FXR but I'm pretty confident they will be similar to the amounts that the WTCC use.

The WTCC also use a 30 Kg ballast for any driver's first-time entry into the championship, for the driver's first race only - do you think we should use this rule too? I'm currently undecided, so any feedback would be welcome! :thumb:

... the only thing to argue with: WTCC doesn't use it anylonger but... ok...

to be serious I think it could work and make the races more attractive :shrug:

[pacesetter]

please put me on the signup list,

Real Name : James Taylor
In-Game Name: [W00T] James
LFSW UserName: pacesetter
Team: [W00T] Motorsport

[Joe_Keaveney]

Hi guys,

Well, development continues on the series - with your co-operation, a 'driver profile' page will be added to the website.

This will serve two purposes:

1) It will allow spectators of the series to find out about the participating drivers - the characters in the show! After all, you are the stars (in the cars), and we need to show you off :)

2) It gives us some information about you for our commentary.

The sort of information we'd like is:

Name
Age
Location
How long you've been sim-racing
Your wheel
What you do (student/doctor/workman/etc)
What you do away from sim-racing
Any info you want to give!

Of course, as I say, this part of the 'show' really depends on your co-operation. So it's completely up to you - if you don't want to give any info, then I understand.

Let me know if you think this is a good or idea or not. I think it adds something to the series, obviously that's just my opinion. So please feel free to make your own point of view heard :thumb:

[J@tko]

Excellent idea IMO.

How about having a teams championship too?

[boothy]

Sorry for the long post and not getting back to this thread earlier...

Ginettas are sports cars, so XRG would be a bit strange given its not powerful enough/too heavy I think, plus its a road car.

Regards the supports, in an ideal world we'd have Porsches, Clios, Formula Renault, SEATs, plus Legends (UF1 or UF-BR) and the Ginettas (XRG or RAC) - yes we can dream!!! :D:D:D

Tracks: Going by the WTCC, most tracks are 3-5km in length, while BTCC tracks are all 2-4km. Touring car racing tends not to lend itself to the big long tracks, but smaller more exciting ones (obviously not too small :))

Tracks I'd say you have to choose from (+ the reversed tracks): BL1, S04, S05, FE2, FE3, KY2, WE1, AS2, AS3, AS7 - plenty of choice! Gotta have some short and some long IMHO.

On the setup issue MP brought up, don't think you can use insim to check that, but doing random spot checks on people would work as it's just like scrutineering in real life - and since everyone knows the rules heavy penalties would be issued to deter people!

Race format: I think 3 races of equal length would be the best way to do it. Having a 3rd feature just complicates matters, and lengthens the whole event. Have you thought about how long each race should be? I would be going for the amount of laps to equal 20 minutes - just under what the BTCC aim for in terms of time per race.

EDIT: Just looked at your website for the rules, saw the race format. Using the CTRA FXR-GT2 (well really GT3 IMHO ;)) I worked out that the race @ AS GT (and other tracks as above) would last 11-12 minutes (feature being double of course :tilt:). That seems a little short, so if you made the race 1.5x longer (45km) you'd only add 5 minutes onto the timetable if you ran 3 races. Food for thought anyway :nod:

Or if you really want pit stops then I suggest going back to the Super Touring sprint/feature race format - 2 races - sprint/feature.

Ballast: The BTCC ballast system seems easier than the WTCC one (like most things the WTCC copies from the BTCC :P) - nice and simple, 45/36/27/18/9 for the top 5. I think this is easy to control using Lapper, just put the usernames in the system and they'll have to have it right before they race?

A few other issues:
Safety Car?
Points - why not just use the BTCC system? :tilt:
Teams/Independents championship?

I had to LOL @ "Leave the ‘dodgem-style’ of driving in the fairground" in your rules - if we're imitating the BTCC then you need to remove that rule! :razz:

I'll probably think up other things at a later date!

[hyntty]

How about having a teams championship too?

So I could mess everyhing up for you? Sweet!

I iz interested. That's T.Hynninen of NDR for you. Please don't misspell it.

[J@tko]

So I could mess everyhing up for you? Sweet!

I iz interested. That's T.Hynninen of NDR for you. Please don't misspell it.


some [NDR] team action as racing team ? :thumb:


I'm interested at taking part, as the FXR is one of my favorite cars, and the date is during my x-mas holydays :D this BTCC style sounds interesting
^ I'm taken thanks timo :D

You can be in our non-point scoring B-team :thumbsup:

[hyntty]

Oh. May I in that case have an AI drive as my teammate since that and Jack amount about the same?

[J@tko]

Oh. May I in that case have an AI drive as my teammate since that and Jack amount about the same?
:sadbanana

[hyntty]

Wat? Normally when I say you're a useless clot I get fifteen thousand smileys as a reply. Is it that time of the month for you now? Or did I stop being funny?

[J@tko]

Wat? Normally when I say you're a useless clot I get fifteen thousand smileys as a reply. Is it that time of the month for you now? Or did I stop being funny?
The latter :tilt:

Back on topic now please.

[racer hero]

Mr. K. O'Keefe is up for it. Sounds like a lot of fun. Is the 21st a Sunday?

[hyntty]

(your such a lameass when it comes to blatant ot)

I personally don't think a support series would be a good idea. It'd take a lot of effort to find people with enough time in tehir hands to organize multiple races. Besides, normally when youtake signups for a league, half the people are either no-shows from the first race on, or disappear during the season. With a support series you'd have to do double the work to get your competitors actually show up.

[J@tko]

Is the 21st a Sunday?
Yes.

[Joe_Keaveney]

Tracks: Going by the WTCC, most tracks are 3-5km in length, while BTCC tracks are all 2-4km. Touring car racing tends not to lend itself to the big long tracks, but smaller more exciting ones (obviously not too small :))

Tracks I'd say you have to choose from (+ the reversed tracks): BL1, S04, S05, FE2, FE3, KY2, WE1, AS2, AS3, AS7 - plenty of choice! Gotta have some short and some long IMHO.


Yeah good point, we'd rather err on the side of slightly too large than too small. Too small IMO would result in too many crashes which whilst spectacular is not good racing. So 4-5km is going to be the benchmark (although I know -AS GT is 8km:shrug:)


On the setup issue MP brought up, don't think you can use insim to check that, but doing random spot checks on people would work as it's just like scrutineering in real life - and since everyone knows the rules heavy penalties would be issued to deter people!


We could do random spot checks but we haven't yet tested the FXR in it's FWD/RWD 5%/95% configuration, and to be honest we haven't time to test it, and neither have the racers to work on setups. Besides it's easier to drive (and more inclusive - and fun) which will hopefully attract a good field of racers.


Race format: I think 3 races of equal length would be the best way to do it. Having a 3rd feature just complicates matters, and lengthens the whole event. Have you thought about how long each race should be? I would be going for the amount of laps to equal 20 minutes - just under what the BTCC aim for in terms of time per race.


I think that's a brilliant idea and (pending discussion with teammates) we'll be implementing that. We will probably shorten qualifying and practice, and produce 3 equal length races, with 10 minutes break between each race. Thankyou! :thumb:


Ballast: The BTCC ballast system seems easier than the WTCC one (like most things the WTCC copies from the BTCC :P) - nice and simple, 45/36/27/18/9 for the top 5. I think this is easy to control using Lapper, just put the usernames in the system and they'll have to have it right before they race?


Or we could press F11 to check during the race? Yeah, another good success ballast system there. Not relevant for the warm-up event, however for the 2nd round of the full championship we will need to have it sorted.


A few other issues:
Safety Car?
Points - why not just use the BTCC system? :tilt:
Teams/Independents championship?


Safety Car - Mr T. Madl (ICON TOM) will be the Safety Car driver.
Points - Well with 3 equal length races, we'd score the races equally and may well use the BTCC system. Jury is out on that - will confirm when we've made a decision on race length.
Yes! Again something to be considered for the iTCC Championship. What I propose is to have 2-driver teams (the Works Teams) and to also allow privateers (as lone entries). So what we will have in effect is three championship tables - Drivers, Team, Privateers.


I had to LOL @ "Leave the ‘dodgem-style’ of driving in the fairground" in your rules - if we're imitating the BTCC then you need to remove that rule! :razz:

Well that statement stands for the values we started ICON with so I hope you understand that we have that statment there for the best of reasons. We think of ourselves as clean racers and nice guys, and any racing we organize should reflect that. Although obviously I understand we're going to be seeing very close racing, so I'm not expecting to see no incidents at all! Anyway you get my point I hope.

[matt lopino]

hi im from australia. was wondering if its too late to sign up? hopefully not cos its my fav car lol.

lfs username: lopino12
team: FBI

:thumb:

[lizardfolk]

Interest from me for both the FXR and FXO class

[Dizzydarryn]

Joe u impress me with all the ideas, could do with someone like u in my real team here in SA :thumb:

I definitely think the ballast idea is a good one. It seemed to work incredibly well in the beginners cup. I dont think we had one repeat winner all season.

I also really like the idea of ballast to a newcomer. One of the slight issues i had is that a driver that joined midseason was almost "untouchable" for at least 3 races before he gained ballast, so im all votes in for the idea!

Something we did in SA production cars which i never picked up from your quote was the "reduction" of ballast on poor results, or "unsuccsseful" results. This could be granted from positions 6- 10 for example in the reverse order of the "sucsess" ballast perhaps.

I think this is gonna be an awesome series, im trying to get my fellow SA guys to join up as well!

[Joe_Keaveney]

Something we did in SA production cars which i never picked up from your quote was the "reduction" of ballast on poor results, or "unsuccsseful" results. This could be granted from positions 6- 10 for example in the reverse order of the "sucsess" ballast perhaps.


Thanks Darryn for your comments....this idea intrigues me. On thinking about the old WTCC rules (posted earlier by me in this thread), the ballasts are scrapped and recalculated after every round. So in effect, a poor result from an otherwise well-performing driver will result in a reduction of ballast.

So, for example, let's take a driver who has competed in 3 rounds of the championship (9 races overall) and has 30 points.

In the last (3rd) round, he finished 5th, 5th, and 8th in the three races. The sum of his points in the round made him 6th overall for that round. Therefore, he would take 5kg into the next (4th) round plus 1kg for every championship point he has scored in the whole championship - 35kg in total. The effect of underperforming on a round by round basis therefore is to lower your ballast.

What I would say is that the scoring of championship points using this system is going to 'saturate' at certain point. Once you have reached 70 championship points, you're stuck on 70kgs ballast no matter how well or how badly you perform. This is a weakness that I need to think about and address. Either we award 1kg of ballast for every 2 or 3 championship points scored, or we award less championship points to each driver. Different ways to achieve the same result.

I think this is gonna be an awesome series, im trying to get my fellow SA guys to join up as well!

Thanks mate, I think so too! We have such good drivers in the LFS leagues, I'm confident we'll have a great season :)

[Joe_Keaveney]

Further to my earlier post regarding 'Driver Profiles' - I forgot to say - I would like with your permission, drivers, to include a profile photo of you both on the website and on the after-race highlights video.

This looks both more professional (on the website), and also, it means i can include your faces on video clips such as the grid line-up , driver gaps, championship tables, that sort of thing.

ALSO, team logos would be nice, for the same reason - championship tables.

I'll PM the interested parties soon for the information. Like I say guys, it's up to you what information you wish to give, if any. But I do think this will make a better show both for you the drivers, and for people watching the highlights videos.

[TFalke55]

Further to my earlier post regarding 'Driver Profiles' - I forgot to say - I would like with your permission, drivers, to include a profile photo of you both on the website and on the after-race highlights video.

This looks both more professional (on the website), and also, it means i can include your faces on video clips such as the grid line-up , driver gaps, championship tables, that sort of thing.

ALSO, team logos would be nice, for the same reason - championship tables.

I'll PM the interested parties soon for the information. Like I say guys, it's up to you what information you wish to give, if any. But I do think this will make a better show both for you the drivers, and for people watching the highlights videos.

will this be madentory for this test event, or are these things just plans for the season.

[Joe_Keaveney]

will this be madentory for this test event, or are these things just plans for the season.

None of it is mandatory - the info you choose to give is up to you, however the after-race videos, along with the broadcast commentary, will benefit so much more IMO by having this information available. Particularly the driver photos, presenting the grid line-up with driver photos next to the name just adds that extra bit of sparkle. :D

I'll be PM-ing people very soon (either tonight or Sunday - not here Saturday) to ask if they'd like to provide this information.

What's your opinion, TFalke55, will you be interested in providing this sort of info?

[TFalke55]

None of it is mandatory - the info you choose to give is up to you, however the after-race videos, along with the broadcast commentary, will benefit so much more IMO by having this information available. Particularly the driver photos, presenting the grid line-up with driver photos next to the name just adds that extra bit of sparkle. :D

I'll be PM-ing people very soon (either tonight or Sunday - not here Saturday) to ask if they'd like to provide this information.

What's your opinion, TFalke55, will you be interested in providing this sort of info?

photo is a bit problematic at the moment, cause I don't have an acutell one of me (only some two years ago or some lying drunken in a dark corner :D)... about other information: well if deko does commentary, real name shouldn't be too hard for him :D to be serious. Real name, contry, age and things like that, but also I could think of something like this: http://www.speedsport-magazine.com/race-driver-database/biography/Jordi-Gene-,284.html
some notable thinks I reached in LFS and some of my (poor) CTRA stats :shrug: That'd be quiet something I'd share

[Joe_Keaveney]

photo is a bit problematic at the moment, cause I don't have an acutell one of me (only some two years ago or some lying drunken in a dark corner :D)... about other information: well if deko does commentary, real name shouldn't be too hard for him :D to be serious. Real name, contry, age and things like that, but also I could think of something like this: http://www.speedsport-magazine.com/race-driver-database/biography/Jordi-Gene-,284.html
some notable thinks I reached in LFS and some of my (poor) CTRA stats :shrug: That'd be quiet something I'd share

Yes that's a good idea, and certainly the sort of information a commentator will want to have to describe a person's 'racing history'.

It will be no problem at all to display this information on the iTCC website.

At the moment we need a commentator for the pre-season race, I can do it but I'd rather leave it to an experienced person, I'm busy enough..:nod:

Well whenever you can provide a photo will be enough, haven't you got a mobile phone with a camera though?:shrug:

Anyway, thanks for the info, of course we should definitely have the racing careers of the drivers displayed. Good one mate!

[N23]

Yep sign up me up also, I'm from Australia just like Matt Lopino.

In-Game Name: GRA1NG3R
LFSW UserName: N23
Team: FBI Racing

[TJLRacing]

Can I sign up to?
Real Name - Tierney Oliver
In-Game Name: BirelKF3
LFSW UserName: TJLRacing
Team: None <Privateer>

[Joe_Keaveney]

Yep sign up me up also, I'm from Australia just like Matt Lopino.

In-Game Name: GRA1NG3R
LFSW UserName: N23
Team: FBI Racing

Can I sign up to?

In-Game Name: BirelKF3
LFSW UserName: TJLRacing
Team: None <Privateer>

I've added you mate, can you edit your post to include your real name please?

Also can Boothy please let me know his real name? Cheers mate!

[Thunderhead]

BTW, Joe, what do you think of the numberplate idea I sent you via PM?

[Dennis93]

i'd like to join this :tilt:

In-Game Name: Lindsay
LFSW UserName: Dennis93
Team: Renesis

[Jazzka]

Gues im joining too :shrug:

In-Game Name: ICON JAZZKA
LFSW UserName: Jazzka
Team: ICON Racing

[Rikje]

Put me up too, any gtr experience is good for me :D

In-Game Name: XFusion|Rikje
LFSW UserName: Rikje
Team: XFusion Racing

[Rudy van Buren]

In-Game Name: F1RST R.v.Buren
LFSW UserName: Rudy van Buren
Team: F1RST Racing

Nice idea to do it like this with the restrictions,
but isnt it a option to get the xrr quite equal to the fxr? so we got not only 1 car type on track :)?

As looking at the wtcc compair to lfs,

i think the gtr's are indead the best for this cinded of racing becaus the car need slicks,
fxo looks alot like honda from wtcc but without slicks the handling etc isnt compaireble at all :(

[Dizzydarryn]

In-Game Name: F1RST R.v.Buren
LFSW UserName: Rudy van Buren
Team: F1RST Racing

Nice idea to do it like this with the restrictions,
but isnt it a option to get the xrr quite equal to the fxr? so we got not only 1 car type on track :)?

As looking at the wtcc compair to lfs,

i think the gtr's are indead the best for this cinded of racing becaus the car need slicks,
fxo looks alot like honda from wtcc but without slicks the handling etc isnt compaireble at all :(

thats a nice sign up joe :-)

[Joe_Keaveney]

In-Game Name: F1RST R.v.Buren
LFSW UserName: Rudy van Buren
Team: F1RST Racing

Nice idea to do it like this with the restrictions,
but isnt it a option to get the xrr quite equal to the fxr? so we got not only 1 car type on track :)?

I imagine it would be fairly easy to get the XRR to be close to equal performance as the FXR, Rudy - the only problem is the style of the car (XRR) is not that of a touring car (in my opinion of course)

The FXR is the only one of the 'GTR' cars that looks like a touring-car (well similar to DTM?) - the XRR and FXR to me look like GT2 cars, and of course, that's not what this series is about.

In an ideal world, I'd like 2 touring-cars in LFS, one RWD and one FWD - but of course the beauty of LFS is we race with what we have. So it's FXR for this championship :thumb: Besides I think the restricted 4WD nature of the cars will make for pretty close racing :D

[Fastwalker]

im in

In-Game Name: [TDRT] S.Mathei
LFSW UserName: Fastwalker
Team: The Danish Racing Team

[Vinnylegends]

Well I am interested but i dont think you would let me in...

[Rudy van Buren]

I imagine it would be fairly easy to get the XRR to be close to equal performance as the FXR, Rudy - the only problem is the style of the car (XRR) is not that of a touring car (in my opinion of course)

The FXR is the only one of the 'GTR' cars that looks like a touring-car (well similar to DTM?) - the XRR and FXR to me look like GT2 cars, and of course, that's not what this series is about.

In an ideal world, I'd like 2 touring-cars in LFS, one RWD and one FWD - but of course the beauty of LFS is we race with what we have. So it's FXR for this championship :thumb: Besides I think the restricted 4WD nature of the cars will make for pretty close racing :D

Good point there it doesnt look like a touring car at all but i didnt go for that with my point aswell :)
just based it that the both have a turbo what should be easy to get them equal, also the RWD - FWD thing wont be that hard to do,
it gets quite complicated but it isnt that hard to just mandatory the rule that after each race top 5 from the fxr needs to send set up and the need to have a open rear dif and your fwd is born :P

A well thats might to complicated for a leaque like this,

ill be there the 21th and check out what is possible with these cars :)

and is there any server online where its only possible to drive these restrictions so that not some guys drive there with 0% restriction aswell quite anoying for testing / compairing ^^,

[J@tko]

Also can Boothy please let me know his real name? Cheers mate!
Mike Booth :thumbsup:

[Joe_Keaveney]

and is there any server online where its only possible to drive these restrictions so that not some guys drive there with 0% restriction aswell quite anoying for testing / compairing ^^,

Yeah certainly.

Everybody - if you look for ICON Server 1 (http://www.lfsworld.net/pubstat/live_progress.php?host=ICON+Racing++-+Server+1) on LFS you should find the server set up for FXR at 32% at AS6 (AS GT). You're free to practice there as much as you like guys.

Cheers!

Joe

[boothy]

Mike Booth :thumbsup:

Michael actually - I had fun annoying Ellis boy after Mini FBM by calling myself "Michael is a noob" etc (he didn't like being called Michael for some reason) and while he kicked others he didn't kick me after I pointed out it was my name! :tilt:

[J@tko]

(he didn't like being called Michael for some reason)
Maybe because that's not his name....? :tilt:

[Laser171107]

Hey joe,

I'm certainly interested in this series, so i'd like to sign up if i still can!
Name: Tobi Osterhouse
Age: 17
Location: Melbourne, Australia
How long you've been sim-racing: A little over 2 years now
Your wheel: Logitech DFP
What you do: student
What you do away from sim-racing: Sailing, Soccer and Music

[Wilko868]

Id love to join up if thats possible

Name : Chris Wilkinson
Location : North East England
How long you've been sim racing : About 2 years
Wheel : G25
Away from Sim Racing : Karting
Team : [W00T] Motorsport

[Alistair]

i can't come to the pree season warm up but i am very interested in comprting next season

[jaws99]

Hey guys, I'd certainly like to sign up for this if possible, looks great!

Real Name - Ben Grindle
In-Game Name: [W00T] Ben
LFSW UserName: jaws99
Team: [W00T]

[Joe_Keaveney]

Hi guys,

Well we are now fast approaching the limit of how many drivers we can fit on the server. 24-26 drivers is as many as we can do - we have a 32-slot server but at least 4 of those places are needed for admin/TV slots and we'd like to have a couple spare for contingencies.

Which means that, with 22 drivers registered, we have 2-4 slots left.

If these remaining slots are filled, we will open a reserve list for drivers who register after the last slot is filled. Any no-shows on the day (not present on the server 15 minutes before Open Practice) will be replaced on a 'first-come,first-served' basis by the names on the reserve list.

Hope that's simple and clear enough, can't wait to get this event underway!:thumb:

[ORBman]

I'm signing up.

LFS Username: ORBman
Real Name: Martin Mačok (written Macok without diacritic, pronounce Matschok)
InGame Name: M.Macok
Age: 29
Nationality: Czech
Racing History: 2 years of casual (sim)racing
Wheel: G25
Team: none
Interests outside racing: Music, Photography, Humour, Family, Technologies and Society
Occupation: IT Security Consultant, Penetration Tester

[kollane]

Real Name: F. Fredrikkson
InGame Name: c4r Fredrik.F
LFS UserName: kollane
Team: c4racing


Real Name: E.Liibeon
InGame Name: c4r Egon.L
LFS UserName: Egon-est
Team: c4racing

[TFalke55]

Hi guys,

Well we are now fast approaching the limit of how many drivers we can fit on the server. 24-26 drivers is as many as we can do - we have a 32-slot server but at least 4 of those places are needed for admin/TV slots and we'd like to have a couple spare for contingencies.

Which means that, with 22 drivers registered, we have 2-4 slots left.

If these remaining slots are filled, we will open a reserve list for drivers who register after the last slot is filled. Any no-shows on the day (not present on the server 15 minutes before Open Practice) will be replaced on a 'first-come,first-served' basis by the names on the reserve list.

Hope that's simple and clear enough, can't wait to get this event underway!:thumb:

aren't 47-slot servers the same prize as 32-slot servers with 500Servers? I thought so :shrug:

[arrowkart4]

Put me in please

Real Name: Andrew carey
InGame Name: XFusion|Andy
LFS UserName: Arrowkart4
Team: XFusion Racing

[Arrow Karts 8]

Also interested.
Real Name - David Schulz
InGame Name - ~AR~ScHuLzY
LFS user name- arrow karts 8
team - Austra Racing

[Elderado]

In-Game Name: Elderado
LFSW UserName: Elderado
Team: Privateer

[john_rees]

I'm In,
I'm sure the the rest of the RSR boys will be there, there is a lot of interest from us lot.
Sounds Great.

Im there with noobs on ;) ya knobs...


Did I get that right :razz:

[john_rees]

Well I am interested but i dont think you would let me in...


Muahahhaha I can't see it some how, if you do you may be racing on your own. :really:

[hyntty]

So would this be somewhat alright (kudos to Falke for this 1337ness)

[Joe_Keaveney]

So would this be somewhat alright (kudos to Falke for this 1337ness)

Yeah, I think so. Good enough! :thumb:

Not quite the same, but to be honest, I prefer the iTCC logo on the white background. Wouldn't mind seeing the same skin with a border around the numberplate.

If you do change the numberplate to how i described, can you please post-up the PSD of the numberplate kit for others?

Cheers! And thanks for posting the pic, nice skins!

[CELTIC100]

Put me down for this too :D

[Joe_Keaveney]

Put me down for this too :D

Can I have just a little more info, please?

Real Name would be a start :)

Thanks :thumb:

[CELTIC100]

Sorry Joe :razz:

Name : Shaun Lees
LFS User Name : Celtic100
Location : Wales
Hobbies : Sim Racing 2 Years
Team : RSR (Race Sim Radicals)

[Elderado]

Sorry, here is mine also:

In-Game Name: Elderado
LFSW UserName: Elderado
Real Name: J. Gingras
Team: Privateer

[hansonator69]

I'm interested in this. Sounds cool.

In-game name: [Hans Richmond]
Real name: Hans Richmond
Age: 15
Team: None
Nationality: Born in New Zealand, Australian residence.
Interests outside racing: Graphic design, sketching, playing guitar, rowing (cox), cars, things that go fast.
Occupation: Student (currently school holidays) and I work at McDonald's.

An FXO support category sounds awesome.

Is it possible to drive in both the FXR and FXO support races when the FXO support category is up and running? (double duty racers)

[Joe_Keaveney]

An FXO support category sounds awesome.

Is it possible to drive in both the FXR and FXO support races when the FXO support category is up and running? (double duty racers)

I don't see why not. FXO support races would certainly be possible but we need to make sure that we can run a good meeting first before we look at any expansion of the the series.

[GreyBull [CHA]]

Hi.

I'm seriously interrested by this league, but my participation depends on the schedule, and my ability to find somewhere to play... because I haven't got any internet connexion at home for the momment.:shrug: Anyway, count me in for the test race, I am 95% sure to make it.(or it is full maybe? if yes, count me on the reserve list)

LFS username : GreyBull [CHA]
Real Name : Y. Laprevotte
Age : 15

[StableX]

Name : Andy Kirschetorte
Location : Yemen
How long you've been sim racing : Never. I play racing games :D
Wheel : DFP
Away from Sim Racing : Rallying Group B cars
Team : RSR

Question: It says The RSR team in the list. Is this one place or a few?

[jwardy]

Real Name : Jack Ward
In-Game Name: [W00T] J.Ward
LFSW UserName: jwardy
Team: [W00T] Motorsport

[Klouczech]

Real Name : Petr Doležal
In-Game Name: Klouczech
LFSW UserName: Klouczech
Team: KxR

Im very interested but there are too many racers :shrug:

[J@tko]

Real Name : Petr Doležal
In-Game Name: Klouczech
LFSW UserName: Klouczech
Team: no team yet

Im very interested but there are too many racers :shrug:
:schwitz:

[miihkali]

hello, I'd certainly like to sign up for this if possible
In-Game Name: miihkali
Name : M. Mertanen
Location : Finland
Wheel : G25
Team : RSR
Age: 30+

[scania]

can I be a non-championship driver in only 1 race?

[TFalke55]

can I be a non-championship driver in only 1 race?

there is no championship yet, just a pre-season race :smileypul

[pacesetter]

thay raises a question for me, would you add ballast to the reserves/non championship drivers cars cos they are only a replacement and not actually involved in the championship?

[Hypothraxer]

Hello Joe

Is it okay if I resize the numberplates a bit? In this case I reduced the width to 65% (because the skin gets stretched) and the height to 88%. I've attached an image.

[Matze78]

Real Name : M. Agari
In-Game Name: Matze78
Team: Factory Phantom Racing

[boothy]

Regards the numberplate, I think it should be as close to the B/WTCC style as possible, it should be as close to the edge of the door as possible and should have editable text, for adding your chosen number. Then the layer should be made available to us, so that it can be added to a Pro Kit, ready for skinning. :)

[Pringels]

Hello.. im interessted in a place in the reservlist..

Name: Nicklas Gräns
In game: Pringels
LFSname:Pringels
Age 18
land: sweden
Team: LFS.SE Endurorace team

[Joe_Keaveney]

Wow! I've only been away since yesterday (for the Race of Champions.....DC rocked! - No really!) and all these posts!.....

I'll add the names to the reserve list tomorrow (just wanted to let you guys know I'm here and reading these posts), and I'll sort out the numberplate kit - thankyou Thunderhead! - I'll take a look tomorrow!

Thanks all, for the interest so far, I'm really impressed with the enthusiasm shown by everyone! Keep the questions and the post coming. I'll be PMing you guys shortly to let you know the server password and the rules.

Cheers!

Joe Keaveney (iTCC Admin)

[Laser171107]

This might sound like a stupid question, or I might've just skipped a line somewhere, but is it the free practise session that begins at 20:00 GMT?
cheers

[Dizzydarryn]

hye guys, i was just having a look at David's skin. It might not be a bad idea to suggest that drivers carry their nations flag on the roof. i think it could look very good!

@Joe: wrt the number plates. where exactly should we be placing them. I have placed mine behind the doors, david has placed him in front of the doors.

One other thing to everyone, seems as though this is a PRACTICE event, would anyone be against posting their sets with laptimes. This might help us put on a better show for the practice event which might draw some extra attention!

[Hypothraxer]

One other thing to everyone, seems as though this is a PRACTICE event, would anyone be against posting their sets with laptimes. This might help us put on a better show for the practice event which might draw some extra attention!

Thumbs up for that! Since I'm already participating in the NDR christmas event I probably won't have time to dish out a decent setup (not to mention the Mini FBM on Saturday...).

[Dizzydarryn]

ive found that the gt1 sets get you within 1 sec of WR pretty easily so its not that difficult to get a decent set... but, it could be difficult if you dont have time to change gear ratio's etc.

Id be willing to share and post replays, as long as im not the only one ;-)

[Joe_Keaveney]

Regards the numberplate, I think it should be as close to the B/WTCC style as possible, it should be as close to the edge of the door as possible and should have editable text, for adding your chosen number. Then the layer should be made available to us, so that it can be added to a Pro Kit, ready for skinning. :)

@Joe: wrt the number plates. where exactly should we be placing them. I have placed mine behind the doors, david has placed him in front of the doors.


Thanks for the idea, Boothy! Excellent idea! Here is the FINAL numberplate kit, consider this one the kit that should be used for both this race meeting and the iTCC championship itself. Don't worry though if you've already skinned and it's different, I'm not that uptight about it for this race.

Here is the link

iTCC Pro-Kit (http://www.itcc.iconracing.co.uk/downloads/iTCC%20Pro-Kit.rar)

Included is the Master Skinnerz Blank Pro-Kit and readme, thankyou very much to those guys for making such great kits!

Darryn, take a look at the kit, my friend. I would like the numbers to be as close to the forward edge of the door as possible.

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Sport/Pix/pictures/2008/06/30/PlatoBTCC3.jpg

Like this!

Cheers!

Joe

[TFalke55]

joe? would the NDR skins be fine just for the pre-season event

[Joe_Keaveney]

joe? would the NDR skins be fine just for the pre-season event

Yes definitely Thilo, just fine the way they are :thumb:

[Ihab Abbas]

I am in
In game name: [SR] I Abbas
LFS name: Ihab Abbas

Yes for FXO support league

1- contact simracingtonight staff and give them race highlights.
2- try to get some good sponsors like logitech,BH,butricker etc.
3- arrange some interviews with drivers , admins ,race marshals.
4- post race best shoots to be analyzed by good analysts from LFS community

[hansonator69]

Good ideas, Ihab, I like the sound of driver interviews.
Joe, I have already sorted out my skin and everything, using the iTCC plates in the first post. Previews of my skin are coming soon.

[evilpimp]

1- contact simracingtonight staff and give them race highlights.
2- try to get some good sponsors like logitech,BH,butricker etc.
3- arrange some interviews with drivers , admins ,race marshals.
4- post race best shoots to be analyzed by good analysts from LFS community

Too add to that list I'd also suggest a live broadcast to make the sponsors happy? :P

[hansonator69]

I need a good set maker to help me with set conversions.
PM me please.

[snoring_snoopy]

Too add to that list I'd also suggest a live broadcast to make the sponsors happy? :P
There will be a live broadcast at ICON TV (http://www.iconracing.co.uk/itcctv.htm) (as seen in first post). Commentator will be Dekojester, so far i know. Joe did a great job, it runs very well :thumb:.

Some of the other stuff you suggested are in progess, so stay tuned.
I am looking forward to 21th december to see you all on track.

[Joe_Keaveney]

Hi Racers,

Your numbers are now available. Please follow the instructions on the first post at the start of this thread.

Make sure your numbers are displayed correctly on the supplied numberplate.

Also make sure you have uploaded your skins to LFS World.

Lastly, make sure your 'in-game' name is in the correct format, e.g.:

2 D.Zanetti

I will be passwording the server TONIGHT sometime, before I do so I will PM every driver with the password. Please do not release this password publicly as it would mean having to change the password and inform every driver all over again.

Thankyou everyone for your interest so far, and may I wish you all the best of luck for Sunday's racing.

Cheers

Joe Keaveney (iTCC Admin)

[Rikje]

Amazing, I got my lucky number :) Also what times are you guys doing atm?

[Rudy van Buren]

Hmm 20, is it a big problem if i make it 57 :shy:

Awell i dont see the number myself while driving anyway

uhm times i know i did 2 timed laps but what that was hmm

2.46? or 56 dunno :D

[Thunderhead]

Can we have the numberplate kit in 2084x2048 resolution, please?

[GreyBull [CHA]]

33 for me please.:) EDIT : Oops, I failed, I thougt that the number was free to choose. Anyway I have 33+1, so it's still good :)

Is that make a problem if I haven't my definitive for the test-race? Because I'd like to work in the VWS this week, so I won't have so much time to create a nice skin during the rest of the week.:thumbsup:

[Joe_Keaveney]

Hmm 20, is it a big problem if i make it 57 :shy:

Awell i dont see the number myself while driving anyway

uhm times i know i did 2 timed laps but what that was hmm

2.46? or 56 dunno :D

Sorry Rudy, the reason I have given everyone numbers is because (my fault) I didn't ask at the beginning what numbers people wanted to use.

To be honest, I haven't got the time now to update number lists with everyone's favourite number, which is what would happen if I let everyone choose their numbers. So I hope you'll understand that for this race, everyone will be using the numbers I've given them.

Again, an oversight on my part so my apologies there - for the proper championship season number choice will be open (apart from number 1 :) - no'ones the champion in the 1st season are they)

[Joe_Keaveney]

;1009626']
Is that make a problem if I haven't my definitive for the test-race? Because I'd like to work in the VWS this week, so I won't have so much time to create a nice skin during the rest of the week.:thumbsup:

As long as it has a numberplate and number on, that's fine..:thumb:

[Tomhah]

Is it still possible to "Be intrested"? :P

[Joe_Keaveney]

Is it still possible to "Be intrested"? :P

We do already have 10 or so reserve drivers, Tomhah - I could add you to the reserve list but honestly I can't see 10 drivers pulling out of the event before Sunday.

Once Sunday's meeting has been held, we'll be looking at when the best time in the New Year is to start the full 2009 iTCC Championship. It won't be long after the New Year, that's for sure.

[hyntty]

We do already have 10 or so reserve drivers, Tomhah - I could add you to the reserve list but honestly I can't see 10 drivers pulling out of the event before Sunday.


If 18 people show up I'm surprized.

[Joe_Keaveney]

If 18 people show up I'm surprized.

You're right - I shouldn't turn anyone away.

Tomhah, I'll PM you the details.

[Mp3 Astra]

If 18 people show up I'm surprized.

'Aye - you can roughly divide your entry list by around 2.5 and minus 6 (made up but reasonable estimation), and you'll probably get the total amount of drivers that show up. It's no offense to the league - it's just people.

[boothy]

Joe, noticed the race format and I have to take issue with the grid order for race 3 - the reverse position should not be fixed, it should be random so nobody tries to hang back and get on pole for race 3 - the BTCC does this, a random reversal point between 6 and 10 inclusive (changed from your method a few years ago) and IIRC so does the WTCC. :)

[Joe_Keaveney]

Joe, noticed the race format and I have to take issue with the grid order for race 3 - the reverse position should not be fixed, it should be random so nobody tries to hang back and get on pole for race 3 - the BTCC does this, a random reversal point between 6 and 10 inclusive (changed from your method a few years ago) and IIRC so does the WTCC. :)

Yeah I know - the problem is how to randomize the reversal :really: And I had written the rules that way before thinking it may be a bit complex.

The only way I can think of doing it is to literally pick the number out of a hat - thus ensuring a random reversal :D Either me or the admin on the day will pick this number from said hat. Consider it changed! (Changed back to what I intended to be honest!)

[J@tko]

In excel, =Rand(6,10)

:thumbsup:

(I think that only works in 2007)

[boothy]

Deko uses http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=33293 for the reversals in the NDR events, but yes 5 bits of paper in a hat would work, or http://www.random.org/integers/?num=1&min=6&max=10&col=1&base=10&format=html&rnd=new :)

[hyntty]

http://www.random.org/integers/?num=1&min=6&max=10&col=1&base=10&format=html&rnd=new :)

That is not completely random. You can't do random with javascript iirc

[TFalke55]

That is not completely random. You can't do random with javascript iirc

a program for random numbers is never really... the only random thingy is, that at any point of the program there is the time as input... :thumb:

[Joe_Keaveney]

That is not completely random. You can't do random with javascript iirc

It's random enough. :razz:

[Joe_Keaveney]

Deko uses http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=33293 for the reversals in the NDR events, but yes 5 bits of paper in a hat would work, or http://www.random.org/integers/?num=1&min=6&max=10&col=1&base=10&format=html&rnd=new :)

Can't download the app boothy - looks interesting.

Thanks for the links! Keep the ideas coming...:thumb:

[boothy]

That is not completely random. You can't do random with javascript iirc

Well just as well it isn't done using JS then isn't it? :scratchch

According to the website it is "truely" random...

[dekojester]

Can't download the app boothy - looks interesting.

Thanks for the links! Keep the ideas coming...:thumb:

The Grid Order App is what I use to actually order the grid in LFS.

I use either the RAND function in Excel to generate a randon number, or one I found online when I can't get Excel where I'm at at the time.

And so yeah, when you gonna upgrade your server there to 47 slots ? If it's on 500servers, it's nothign extra, AFAIK.

d

[Thunderhead]

I made my skin.... All OK with you, Joe?

[hansonator69]

Here's what my skin looks like. Co-incident that a V8 Supercar is sponsored by Valvoline and has the number 33. (Looks different to this though)

I used the older iTCC plates for this, and that's why the plates are stretched.

[Joe_Keaveney]

The Grid Order App is what I use to actually order the grid in LFS.

I use either the RAND function in Excel to generate a randon number, or one I found online when I can't get Excel where I'm at at the time.
d

Can you send me the app please Dekojester? The download won't work from the site.

And so yeah, when you gonna upgrade your server there to 47 slots ? If it's on 500servers, it's nothign extra, AFAIK.

I'll look into it and let you all know :thumb:

[Wilko868]

Heres W00T Motorsports iTCC Skin (preview is without number boards but are actually on) thanks to TsunamiSephi for producing the skin :)

[hansonator69]

That's a nice and eycatching skin there Wilko.

[Joe_Keaveney]

I made my skin.... All OK with you, Joe?

Fantastic skin, Alan....really nice :thumb:

Perfect with the plates.

[Thunderhead]

Fantastic skin, Alan....really nice :thumb:

Perfect with the plates.

thanks.

But, I see some people are resizing them- is that all all right? IMO, everyone should have them the same, without everyone sizing them up and down....:shrug:

(yeayeayea I know I'm annoying I'm Mr. Numberplate lalalalalala....)

[pacesetter]

please put me in the cannot attend test race, as per the pm i sent you Joe :)

[Joe_Keaveney]

thanks.

But, I see some people are resizing them- is that all all right? IMO, everyone should have them the same, without everyone sizing them up and down....:shrug:

(yeayeayea I know I'm annoying I'm Mr. Numberplate lalalalalala....)

Well actually the way you have them is the correct way. So please leave them as they are.

The others have done it wrong, but that's mostly my fault for not sorting the numberplate kit out sooner - so I'll let them get away with it this time.

However, it should be the way yours are for the season itself. So please leave yours the way they are, they're correct.

[TFalke55]

thanks.

But, I see some people are resizing them- is that all all right? IMO, everyone should have them the same, without everyone sizing them up and down....:shrug:

(yeayeayea I know I'm annoying I'm Mr. Numberplate lalalalalala....)

can you upload them in higher res? 1024*1024 is a bit... a bit bad for skinning :shrug: would be much better 2048*2048

[Thunderhead]

Well actually the way you have them is the correct way. So please leave them as they are.

The others have done it wrong, but that's mostly my fault for not sorting the numberplate kit out sooner - so I'll let them get away with it this time.

However, it should be the way yours are for the season itself. So please leave yours the way they are, they're correct.

hahaha. I knew it...:D :thumb:

edit: Tfalke- I didn't make the number kit, someone of the ICON team did. I did provide a couple of mine though....

[TFalke55]

hahaha. I knew it...:D :thumb:

edit: Tfalke- I didn't make the number kit, someone of the ICON team did. I did provide a couple of mine though....

ok :scratchch

[Joe_Keaveney]

can you upload them in higher res? 1024*1024 is a bit... a bit bad for skinning :shrug: would be much better 2048*2048

Ah yes, didn't think about that.

Here it is - DOWNLOAD (http://www.itcc.iconracing.co.uk/downloads/iTCC%20HIRES%20Pro-Kit.rar)

I'll make it available in the original post too.

[TFalke55]

Server 's not online :shrug:

[Joe_Keaveney]

Server 's not online :shrug:
What server? The download link or the team server?

I tried them both and the download works, and the server IS online.

Maybe you tried LFS Remote, Remote keeps de-activating when no-ones on the server for a while.

[TFalke55]

What server? The download link or the team server?

I tried them both and the download works, and the server IS online.

Maybe you tried LFS Remote, Remote keeps de-activating when no-ones on the server for a while.

:D sry should have cleared it a bit...
I mean your LFS server of the PM... did you update it to a testpatch somhow or something like that?

EDIT: Mistake was that the PM did not gave the correct name... ICON Racing - Server 1 but ICON Server 1 sry my fault

[hyntty]

Maybe you tried LFS Remote, Remote keeps de-activating when no-ones on the server for a while.

:really:

[nuno190]

i am making a team
can it go to itcc
pls respond:):):)

[Mp3 Astra]

i am making a team
can it go to itcc
pls respond:):):)

You need to buy Live for Speed first. Go to www.lfs.net to find out how.

[scotty2888]

Is there still spaces available?

If so I would like to join in. I have s2 so no problems there.

[CELTIC100]

RSR ITCC Skin - The No Board is as far forward as possible as theres a vent on the front edge of the door :D

[GreyBull [CHA]]

Can't open psd files...:( Any chances to have the numberplate file in jpg, bmp, or something like that? Thanks in advence. :thumbsup:

[Thunderhead]

;1013881']Can't open psd files...:( Any chances to have the numberplate file in jpg, bmp, or something like that? Thanks in advence. :thumbsup:


send me your skin, I'll do it for you.:thumb:

[GreyBull [CHA]]

send me your skin, I'll do it for you.:thumb:

Oh, you're very nice !:thumb:Thanks !:thumbsup:

[DevilDare]

any free spaces? if so how many :)

[Timdpr]

Yep sign up me up also, I'm from Australia just like Matt Lopino.

In-Game Name: GRA1NG3R
LFSW UserName: N23
Team: FBI Racing

Just to let you know, you may not want to let this guy in, judging by his performance in the NDR christmas event. Apparently he was rather reckless... (http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?p=1014158#post1014158)

[scotty2888]

Heres my details to be added to the list. Main list or reserve were ever. Many thanks. :)

In-Game Name: Scott Moore
LFSW UserName: scotty2888
Team: RS Radicals

[GreyBull [CHA]]

Big thanks to Thunderhead for his wonderful work on my private skin... And here it is !:D

My suggestions for the tracks : bl1, so4, fe4, ky2, as4, we1r, ky3

[hansonator69]

My suggestions for tracks: BL1R, SO5R, FE2, AS7R, WE1R, SO6, SO4, KY2R.
These are my suggestions depending on how many rounds there will be in 2009.

[Fastwalker]

got this pm:

Hello,

Please, send all setups FXR

My e-mail -


pjuniorbra - Brasil

is it about iTTC? if not.. meh ;\

[TFalke55]

got this pm:



is it about iTTC? if not.. meh ;\

I doubt that it hase something to do with iTCC... This guy, I think, just wants to have setups :shrug:

[scotty2888]

can we have a link pposted in here when ou guys are on please.

if I dont get to race I would like to watch the coverage. :thumb:

Many thanks :)

[TFalke55]

can we have a link pposted in here when ou guys are on please.

if I dont get to race I would like to watch the coverage. :thumb:

Many thanks :)

go to the website itcc.iconracing.co.uk then under iTCC SERVICES you'll find the button ICON TV when you pressed it you're on this (http://www.iconracing.co.uk/itcctv.htm) site.

My question on this whole would be: Did you find any commentator yet? (if no, did you sent a pm to dekojester & mp3astra [the MoE team]?)

[hyntty]

And my question would be how the heck you are going to get everyone in your 16 slot ts server?

[J@tko]

@ timo - u dont have 2b on the ts server.
@joe - can we put the stream on our website?
@falke - deko is commentating :)

[Joe_Keaveney]

@joe - can we put the stream on our website?
@falke - deko is commentating :)

Certainly mate :) http://www.mogulus.com/itcc then grab the embed code from there :)

[TFalke55]

http://www.hot-rod-racers.de/Bilder/Render/3xfxr1.jpg

with many thanks to animal85 the NDR line-up ;)

[J@tko]

:schwitz:

Oh my days.

Got 4th fastest lap in first race, 5th fastest lap in second race and came 3rd in last race.

Was truly epic, thanks alot to the ICON guys for putting it on :thumb:

Was amazingly surprised at my amazing pace, considering I had no practice at all and got given my set at the start of quali :tilt:

And unlucky Yann for the last race - looking forward to the broadcast of that - I bet deko went mad :D

[Wilko868]

Some great racing, hope to see you all in the full championship :)

[Fastwalker]

i sucked :p nuff said

[hyntty]

Fail.

[DevilDare]

nice racing :) :thumb:

[Gil07]

:schwitz:

Oh my days.

Got 4th fastest lap in first race, 5th fastest lap in second race and came 3rd in last race.

Was truly epic, thanks alot to the ICON guys for putting it on :thumb:

Was amazingly surprised at my amazing pace, considering I had no practice at all and got given my set at the start of quali :tilt:

And unlucky Yann for the last race - looking forward to the broadcast of that - I bet deko went mad :D

You bet correct. LFS + Murray Walker = dekojester :D

Awesome racing guys, thanks for the great entertainment, especially Klouczech (awesome defending), Rudy (pure alien-ness) and Rikje (nice outside passes) :D

[TFalke55]

a great event in four unstatisfying parts... but I'm really looking foreward to the season

[Dizzydarryn]

GREAT RACING guys... Thanks to Joe and all the other guys at ICON racing.. this is gonna be an awesome championship... the best yet i reckon!

[GreyBull [CHA]]

This event was just FANTASTIC !:laola: I just can't belive that I lost a podium for only 3/100e of second... Congrats Jack !:) Also, I really feel sorry for n°26, I really didn't want to take you off the track mate.:(

PS : iTCC should really get its own sub-forum here...:scratchch

[evilpimp]

That was just amazing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Pringels]

Realy fun racing tonight.. tobad my computer didn't think so...

really looking forwad to the season

[Thunderhead]

This is great.

ICON-GREAT job. So far, that is. I hope it will stay that way.:thumb:

Greetz from way down in the field:tilt:

[Rudy van Buren]

Had 3 realy nice races especialy the 2nd and 3rd

not sure if i can do the championchip but ill try to alteast

Can you admins gives us the tracks or something then i got some extra thing to think about :D

Anyway tnx for racing :thumb:

[Thunderhead]

Had 3 realy nice races especialy the 2nd and 3rd

not sure if i can do the championchip but ill try to alteast

Can you admins gives us the tracks or something then i got some extra thing to think about :D

Anyway tnx for racing :thumb:


You- http://www.imagesforme.com/out.php/i272956_Hail.gifhttp://www.imagesforme.com/out.php/i272956_Hail.gif

[Dizzydarryn]

yeah Rudy, really great racing... 3 wins even with reverse grid... :thumb:

[dekojester]

Had 3 realy nice races especialy the 2nd and 3rd

Oh, so humble. :D

I bet deko went mad :D

Yes. This is the understatement of the century, however.

d

[Rudy van Buren]

Oh, so humble. :D







lolll :P

[TFalke55]

lol @ deko
because
1st: calling Timo Timo
2nd: not realising that de Jong in P3 retires (3rd Race)

[jwardy]

most of the race i was like oooo im on tv , and if i look 10 cm to the right im racing ...

fantastic overall , cannot wait to race in the league

[Mp3 Astra]

So is there a new sign up for the overall series or is the current list for the series?

[Gil07]

New signup, but the drivers signed up to the test race get priority, or so I have been told.

[Mp3 Astra]

New signup, but the drivers signed up to the test race get priority, or so I have been told.

I'll get in there as quick as I possibly can.

[pacesetter]

Well I drove poorly, got whacked by H.Richmond on the first lap to stick me in the gravel trap. I pitted, and then disconected cos of my connection

[Pantera70]

I'd like to thank everybody for turning up and must say all in all the drivers standards were great. A huge well done to Ruby for taking all 3 races in such an alien way :thumb:

Special Thanks To:-

Joe and Deko for their work on the live broadcast...

Tom and Greg for helping with race admin...

We will be working hard tonight to get the results and downloads available for you all and can't wait to start the full league in Jan...

Once again thanks to everybody who make this event so much fun :D

[Klouczech]

RAces were gr8, but Rudy was ufo and had very good set.
Is there any chance to download the live stream with commentary?
P.Doležal

[Wilko868]

Anybody know when the full season sign up will start?? Want to get in as quickly as possible for such a great event

[Joe_Keaveney]

Anybody know when the full season sign up will start?? Want to get in as quickly as possible for such a great event

As soon as we have everything ready, mate. Not long - I just need to put together some videos and a few other things then we're good to go.

Sign-ups should be in a couple of weeks.

[hyntty]

lol @ deko
because
1st: calling Timo Timo


Huh :confused:

[Rudy van Buren]

I'd like to thank everybody for turning up and must say all in all the drivers standards were great. A huge well done to Ruby for taking all 3 races in such an alien way :thumb:

didnt know that ruby won 3 races :shy:?

[Hypothraxer]

My first race ended in lap 1 (sorry Mr. Grindle! I really didn't see you there and thus closed the gap). Race 2 and 3 were mostly "catch up from last position" but Race 3 was lots of fun the last 2 laps since I had a nice battle with Jakola.

I really look forward to the series but maybe it would be possible to start one hour earlier? :)

[GreyBull [CHA]]

I really look forward to the series but maybe it would be possible to start one hour earlier? :)

+1 ! During Race 3 I was so tired...:thumbsup:

[jaws99]

My first race ended in lap 1 (sorry Mr. Grindle! I really didn't see you there and thus closed the gap).


No worries mate, first lap was epic! Thanks for the apology :)

[hyntty]

I really look forward to the series but maybe it would be possible to start one hour earlier? :)

Was gonna suggest that myself. It is a bit late like this.

[Rudy van Buren]

I really look forward to the series but maybe it would be possible to start one hour earlier? :)

+1:thumb:

[Rikje]

I'm going to be here for the full season. I definetly had loads of fun even though things didn't go the way I wanted. Should be fun trying to keep up with mr. Rudy!

[Thunderhead]

Consider me signed up for the whole season.

[Fastwalker]

I'm going to be here for the full season. I definetly had loads of fun even though things didn't go the way I wanted. Should be fun trying to keep up with mr. Rudy!

same..
this is some good experience i think
gotta try to keep the failmeter down :nod:

anyone can upload the .mpr's btw?

[J@tko]

Now I've had a sleep I can report on my races:

Qualification:
Got given our team set at the start of quali, and got some gd laps in and so qualified in 12th, which was quite alot better than I expected. Not too far behind Timo either.

Race 1:
Got a good start, got from 12th on the grid to about 8th after T1. Made a couple of mistakes (including one which I got yelled at for on vent :P) and came 9th IIRC. And got 5th (or was it 4th) fastest lap too, so I was pleased :)

Race 2:
Another good start and got up to 7th after T1. However, I got tapped by the #22 (the guy in the purple, possibly Alfa skin whose surname I cant remember :P) then got caught up in a lag collision and dropped right back. I then just decided to give it everything and made my aim to catch jwardy who was about 10 seconds and 3 positions in front of me. Managed to overtake pringels and the other guy in one move, then broke my pb twice and so nearly caught Jack on the line :(

[B]Race 3:
wow. Started 13th and made my aim to try and catch Timo who started 2nd. Got yet another good start and was 11th after T1. Again decided to just absolutely cane it and get as high as I could. Managed to get past a few people and decided to try and catch the top 5 who were all battling. Caught up with Yann and the Fredrikson, they hit each other and I got past Fredikson as he span. I was now about 1.5 seconds behind Yann with 1.5 laps to go. Started to really push hard, but I too was being caught by Wilkinson. He was faster than me in Sectors 2&3, but I was faster in Sectors 1&4. Coming out of the esses over the last split line on the last lap I was about 0.8 seconds behind Yann and only 0.5 seconds in front of Wilkinson. I thought my chances at 3rd place (de Jong had retired by then) had gone, but then I remembered having a sneaky look at Yann's tyres a couple of laps back and his front left was really quite hot. My tyres in contrast were just about perfect. As I came down to the hairpin on the last lap I knew that if I could get good drive out of the corner I had a chance. But oh no, bloody Mr Wilkinson tried to go up the inside of me! How dare he! Luckily I lost minimal time and avoided contace, got awesome drive out the corner and was just behind Yann coming out the hairpin. I knew I had to take the last chicane perfectly and go for the draft out it. Luckily I took it absolutely perfectly, Yann in contrast did it quite badly. Got in his draft for about a second then drove to the line, yelling various things at my computer including "Dek's gonna love this :D" (And boy he did lol). Beat Yann by 0.03 seconds after 23 mins of racing. 3rd place was so much more than I'd expected from the evening and so I was really pleased.

I think I must have been in an FXR for at least 6h over the past few days so ill be using a different car over xmas :razz:

After the 2h on Friday I was physically pretty shattered. After last night I was mentally shattered :(

Anyone got the replays btw?

Thanks to the admins, any chance of a bit less of time between the races? :shy:

[dekojester]

I'd say even start it 2 hours earlier, at 1800 GMT. And tbh, the day was quite long as is. Cut out some of the breaks. I'd even go so far as to say cut out the FP 15 minutes before qual. If they haven't practiced before showing up to the server, why should they be gifted that last-minute time to practice ? Leave qual as 15 minutes, then go into races.

And doing a /end between the FP and qual was, imo, slow and stupid way to admin it. Easy to just do /qual=15 followed by /qualify - also, after qual and races, you don't need to ask drivers to spec before doing /end. Just do /end, then do /clear - that clears the grid completely by an admin. Easy, quick. Also, it helps to forbid any chat during grid setting procedures. Personally, I call cars in the grid simply by putting their name in chat, nothing else. I do this a few times (reasonable lenght, 45 seconds or so) and then go to the next. If they don't join in time, then start them at the back. I also always have someone set in the grid as a failsafe - someone who doesn't go ready at all until instructed to do so, to prevent an accidental start, which could happen.

But yeah, the time between races was a bit too long-feeling. The whole day took 2.5 hours or so - could easily have been done in 2 hours. :) Cutting out that 15 minute free practice is going to save time all round. Everyone should be in server at least 5-10 before qual starts, so the FP is simply unneeded, from my view.

But overall, great job. Just some of my thoughts.

d

[Joe_Keaveney]

I'd say even start it 2 hours earlier, at 1800 GMT..

Good point, it was neary 11pm GMT when I got finished last night, so we will schedule the meetings earlier in the evening from now on.

Cut out some of the breaks. I'd even go so far as to say cut out the FP 15 minutes before qual...

Also, yeah I agree. The server was open the whole week for racers to use so no need for a FP as well.

And doing a /end between the FP and qual was, imo, slow and stupid way to admin it. Easy to just do /qual=15 followed by /qualify - also, after qual and races, you don't need to ask drivers to spec before doing /end. Just do /end, then do /clear - that clears the grid completely by an admin. Easy, quick.

In this instance, Darren was adminning his first race meeting, and as such (considering there were no massive issues), he did brilliantly. I'm sure he'll read the post and take on board what you've said - it's all about experience. We'll be right on the ball for the next meeting.

Here's the Replays! (http://www.itcc.iconracing.co.uk/downloads/iTCC%20Pre-Season%20Replays.rar)

Enjoy guys, I'm just about to upload Race 1 - I needed to trim the footage. Apologies in advance for the quality, I'll re-encode a better one later on in the week.

[scotty2888]

I was watching the action on the live stream with a few others and must say some quality racing guys.

I would like to be signed up for the seaosn please. Just watching it last night has made me want to be apart of it. :)

[J@tko]

In this instance, Darren was adminning his first race meeting, and as such (considering there were no massive issues), he did brilliantly. I'm sure he'll read the post and take on board what you've said - it's all about exoerience. We'll be right on the ball for the next meeting.

Here's the Replays! (http://www.itcc.iconracing.co.uk/downloads/iTCC%20Pre-Season%20Replays.rar)



Agreed, for his first adminning that was pretty good. There were no major gaffes at all. I'd say adminning is about 10% ability and 90% experience.

And tyvm for the replays :thumb:

[Rudy van Buren]

Good point, it was neary 11pm GMT when I got finished last night, so we will schedule the meetings earlier in the evening from now on.


think about the guys GMT + 1 ;)

And yea the FP isnt realy needed, if ppl didnt prac before that the FP wont help them to make sets etc just to short amount of time,

from quali to race1 i didnt understand why we went race end, and then everybody joining again we could just start the race wenn we were on track and it should have been fine.

same for race 2 if the start was just done as results previous race we didnt need to go end screen, and for race 3 there is some insim availeble that the admin can change the top 8/9/10 and the rest stays on same place and yet again we dont need to go race end screen then will safe alot of time :)

Anyway this is what a practice race is about finding out all stuff like this ^^,

[hyntty]

think about the guys GMT + 1 ;)
Ahem! there's people from +2 (maybe 3) aswell
And yea the FP isnt realy needed, if ppl didnt prac before that the FP wont help them to make sets etc just to short amount of time,

from quali to race1 i didnt understand why we went race end, and then everybody joining again we could just start the race wenn we were on track and it should have been fine.

same for race 2 if the start was just done as results previous race we didnt need to go end screen, and for race 3 there is some insim availeble that the admin can change the top 8/9/10 and the rest stays on same place and yet again we dont need to go race end screen then will safe alot of time :)

Anyway this is what a practice race is about finding out all stuff like this ^^,

It is quite crap with some applications tbh. So my advice would be to start making preparations veeery early before the actual race start :D For example an hour or so extra and you'd perhaps had time to make the RaceControl app, grid orderer and TvDirector working :schwitz:

[J@tko]

Finish for 3rd place in Race 3 attached :schwitz:

[Pantera70]

I agree with the comments about saving time and we always planned on making things a lot more streamlined for the full season. As well as seeing how much interest there would be in such a league the other idea of this warm up was to iron out these type of things before we went into the full league.

But please keep the comments coming and any advice is always welcome. We want the final product to be exactly what the community wants and I think by reducing the time between races etc we'll be pretty much there.

[GreyBull [CHA]]

A few suggestions :

1) SC periods in case of pile-ups. I agree that a SC wouldn't be a good idea last night because as6's lap is very long, but in other tracks, it would be good for the driver's immersion and for the viewers(there's nothing more annoying than seing cars flying everywhere and then spectating immediately when you are a viewer. It looks so unrealistic)
2) A rolling start in Race 2 or 3 maybe? Like in WTCC?
3) A point for the highest climber in Race 3.
4) Quali in two parts, Q1 and Q2, like it will be in WTCC next year... But it must be hard to admin such a difficult system I guess...
5) All of the skins should be given to the man who make the stream(i don't remember who it was yesterday) in high-resolution.

And count me in the season please.:thumb:

Finish for 3rd place in Race 3 attached :schwitz:

It's the background of my desktop now.:thumbsup: Even if my skin looks bad in low-res.:scratchch

[pacesetter]

I will also sign up for the full season when sign up opens :thumb: The best lfs league will becon if it carries on the way it did last night :)

[J@tko]

;1015711']
It's the background of my desktop now.:thumbsup: Even if my skin looks bad in low-res.:scratchch
Gimme your e-mail and I'll send you a hi-res bmp version rather than a compressed jpeg. At least it'll be slightly better :thumb:

[ORBman]

I'm signing up for the whole season. I couldn't keep the pace with most of the others but I was enjoying the session a lot...

[Joe_Keaveney]

Hi racers,

Can I say thank you to all that turned up last night - I thoroughly enjoyed watching the racing, and was thrilled to see so many people excited by the racing.

I've put up Race 1 now - you can find it in the 'ON-DEMAND' section of the ICON TV (http://iconracing.co.uk/itcctv.htm) or Mogulus (http://www.mogulus.com/itcc) - or if you let the video play, all 3 races are shown in the the order they were raced.

I'm gonna be working now to get a more comprehensive page together - this will include stats from all three races, links to the replays, videos, race reports, and video analysis. I'll let you know here as I publish each part.

As a team, ICON will look at how we can improve the show - not just doing what we need to do better, but seeing what new things there are that we can do.

Cheers

Joe Keaveney - iTCC Admin

[jwardy]

im in race 3 woop , count me in aswell for the season

[Pantera70]

The results have now been published on the iTCC Site for last nights warm up event... Guess who landed the most points on the night :D

Regards

[J@tko]

LOL I came 5th overall :D

And a good points haul for Team NDR :thumb:

[GreyBull [CHA]]

V. Laprevotte

Hello, name's Yann.:wave:

Can't belive, Simon and Rik are far away behind me in the points ranking !:yipee:

Great work, keep it up ! See you all during the season...

[DeadWolfBones]

I'd very much like to join the series, but I can only make it if it's a weekend series (and if it doesn't conflict with IGTC/MoE). Any idea what day of the week the races will be run and at what time?

[pacesetter]

Im not on the entrants list on the left side of the page. thats cos i withdrew, but i raced last night. Will I be allowed race this season?

[Joe_Keaveney]

I'd very much like to join the series, but I can only make it if it's a weekend series (and if it doesn't conflict with IGTC/MoE). Any idea what day of the week the races will be run and at what time?

Sunday at around 1800 GMT :thumb:

It won't conflict with IGTC/MoE. We're conscious of the fact that other leagues need to be factored in to our calendar. With that in mind, is the calendar out for IGTC 2009 yet?

[Joe_Keaveney]

Im not on the entrants list on the left side of the page. thats cos i withdrew, but i raced last night. Will I be allowed race this season?

:scratchch................Yes.

[J@tko]

I'd very much like to join the series, but I can only make it if it's a weekend series (and if it doesn't conflict with IGTC/MoE). Any idea what day of the week the races will be run and at what time?
I _think_ that it'll be on a Sunday night GMT, as thats when the test race was.

[hyntty]

;1016001']
Can't belive, Simon and Rik are far away behind me in the points ranking !:yipee:


Oh, Simon is behind me,
oh, Simon is behind me,
oh, Simon is behiiiiiiind me,
Which nobody can deny

Sound gd?

[DeadWolfBones]

Sunday at around 1800 GMT :thumb:

It won't conflict with IGTC/MoE. We're conscious of the fact that other leagues need to be factored in to our calendar. With that in mind, is the calendar out for IGTC 2009 yet?

Not just yet... expect it around the 1st of the year.

So... where do I go to sign up?

[Joe_Keaveney]

Not just yet... expect it around the 1st of the year.

So... where do I go to sign up?

Give me a day or two to finalize the calendar, as soon as we're ready we'll open registration. 1-2 days max. :thumb:

[DeadWolfBones]

Excellent. I think I can interest a few other CoRe guys, too. ;]

[GreyBull [CHA]]

Oh, Simon is behind me,
oh, Simon is behind me,
oh, Simon is behiiiiiiind me,
Which nobody can deny

Sound gd?

Put some smileys in your post, and it will look better.

[J@tko]

Excellent. I think I can interest a few other CoRe guys, too. ;]
Oh please no :schwitz:

And wouldn't you Americans be anti-4WD anyway? :tilt:

[DeadWolfBones]

I live in the mountains now. 4WD is a way of life. :smileypul

[TFalke55]

:( nice that my qualifying lap is not listed on the homepage :D

[J@tko]

And more spam: Thank you ICON for moving the NDR section back over to the left hand side of the list now :grumpy:

@ Falke - yes, it was that bad :P

[Elderado]

Will the new sign up be on first come first serve basis?

Thank you for the warm up race, i would enjoy finishing last in the full season if allowed.

[Fastwalker]

Oh, Simon is behind me,
oh, Simon is behind me,
oh, Simon is behiiiiiiind me,
Which nobody can deny

Sound gd?

lolwut
no :p

[snoring_snoopy]

Hi there!

First i would like to say thank you to all driver, who take part on the warm up season. I can only repeat what Darren said during the races "There is a punch of very good drivers on the track", i agree totally to this statement, haven´t never seen so close AND FAIR races before in LFS :thumb:
Thank you also for your post, critism and suggestion on this thread, only with your oppinion we can improve this series.

I know, there are some points during the event, that wasn´t very good, but that is what a warm up is here for. :schwitz:
And don´t forget, it was the first event we organized in this size. :schwitz:
I think, we are on the right way for season 1.
Darren did a very good job for adminning this event, tbh he did the most work on this side.
Joe makes a wonderful broadcasting (he solved the technical issues we had at the beginning) and deko: superb commentary, on each of the three races i fear my pc speakers will blow up when cars after the start came to turn 1 :razz:.

So i am looking forward to the iTCC Season, and hope to see you there.

[seniecka]

Hello, i'm interested in this competition too.

Name: Skirmantas Stankevičius
Age: 17
Location: Seda, Lithuania
How long you've been sim-racing: About 2 years
Your wheel: Trust FF380 Force Feedback Racemaster
What you do: student
What you do away from sim-racing: I love basketball, football, read books :scratchch and watch TV

[DevilDare]

Hello, i'm interested in this competition too.

Name: Skirmantas Stankevičius
Age: 17
Location: Seda, Lithuania
How long you've been sim-racing: About 2 years
Your wheel: Trust FF380 Force Feedback Racemaster
What you do: student
What you do away from sim-racing: I love basketball, football, read books :scratchch and watch TV

http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=51818

:thumb:

[seniecka]

Oh sorry, i registered in wrong thread, so i will register again :) :shrug:

[Bft-Master]

I'm interrested

Some other renesis pilots gonna join

Real Name : Damien Jourdainne
In-Game Name: ®Dam
LFSW UserName: bft-master
Team: Renesis

[Gil07]

Sign up here ;) http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=51818

[ORBman]

Ouch, I was away during christmas after the warm-up race and now I see it is all over and I am not signed up. I didn't know that there will be another "now for real" sign up so soon :-(

OK, gonna find some other event, bye