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pho3nix
19th August 2005, 06:50
I think that to complement the UFGTR and the XFGTR we could use a GT-Racing version of the XRGT.
Keeping with the NA style and philosophy, run the car with no downforce like the other two and keep the same or simmlar displacement but with a racing setup of the engine and race tune.
This occured to me the first time i ran a race with the XF and UFGTR's need of some differences in corner exit and indeed corner entry lines, before every one gets all huffy i do realise that the UF and the XF are very different racing cars but i think some thing of the light weight FR layout would work quite well without disturbing the balance of the other two cars.
The new XRGT-GTR would be something simmilar to the old AE86 N2 championship, an extremey well balenced lightweight NA FR.
Let us know what u think.
Tweaker
19th August 2005, 08:18
Not a bad idea, I thought about it once too. Sort of a mid entry level race car. XR GT would be perfect for that.
And would be cool... the XRR's little brother :)
uttoro
19th August 2005, 10:14
:iagree:
It would be really fun to have 3 competititve cars! Voted yes :)
colcob
19th August 2005, 10:41
I'm afraid this just isnt possible. What would its three letter acronym be?
MorfeasFX
19th August 2005, 11:44
Yeah, great idea! Yes yes yes yes.:tilt::D:thumbsup:
the_angry_angel
19th August 2005, 11:46
I'm afraid this just isnt possible. What would its three letter acronym be?
Tricky..... :detective
L(Oo)ney
19th August 2005, 12:08
Xr_gts.
Bob Smith
19th August 2005, 13:04
Xr_gts.
That's not three letters. You idiot. :p
Anyway, we've got XRG, XRT and XRR. How about XRS?
MyBoss
19th August 2005, 13:10
How about changing the FZ50 over to a competitive race car in that car?
We allready got 3 different versions of the XR, one more would be overkill imo. Maybe change the RA instead? but then the developers of the car would have to agree first I guess.
DasKlee
19th August 2005, 13:57
i don't like it - although an addition to the 2 car class would be great, i don't think it should be the XR - since we have no GTR version of the RB4, why not make an RBR version that fits into the GT2/GTS class?
a little more powerful/faster than the XFR but also a lot heavier and a lot more thirsty
i think the RB4 deserves a race version as well but 4 different GTR cars aren't really necessary (although i wouldn't mind having 4..) so maybe it could be added to the GTS/GT2 class sometime in the future..
Bob Smith
19th August 2005, 14:23
We suspect the RB4 is being left standard until the the rally pack, so there won't ever be a race version of it.
DasKlee
19th August 2005, 14:29
We suspect the RB4 is being left standard until the the rally pack, so there won't ever be a race version of it.
that could be a good explanation, although i do not hope it is..
in my eyes, there's no reason in not having a roadrace and a rally version of the same cars. and a rally pack with the kit-car like XF & UF, the RB and an offroad FX should be possible, even if race versions for most of the cars already exist
MorfeasFX
19th August 2005, 23:20
XRV Maybe?:scratchch What about XRZ ? :tilt:
L(Oo)ney
19th August 2005, 23:28
What i would like, is more new cars.
Not re-hash's of old ones. ;)
XCNuse
19th August 2005, 23:35
why DasKlee.. thats like saying that subaru shouldnt have an STi as their rally car because there is one on the roads........ that makes no sense what so ever
honestly i really would love to see this... i mean.. of course like looney said.. rehashes of old ones, yes after a while, but quite honestly... in the end its just another car to play with which is a +
one thing just threw me off though; its RWD.. the slower GTR cars are FWD.. soooo.. i dont think it would really ever happen, since RWD cars dont fry up their wheels like powerfull FWD cars do
great idea.. but.. there would have to be something to limit fairness, or else everyone would be driving that around instead of the FWD cars
Jonesy_
19th August 2005, 23:39
Vote for yes!
Would love to see the XR family grow once more!
:lovies3d:
XCNuse
19th August 2005, 23:42
like i said... i think the main reason the devs made the XF/UF GTR class.. is to get people to drive some FWD cars... rather than hogging up only RWD cars
L(Oo)ney
19th August 2005, 23:58
honestly i really would love to see this... i mean.. of course like looney said.. rehashes of old ones, yes after a while, but quite honestly... in the end its just another car to play with which is a +
Wait till LFS tweak s2 is released, then you can have the XR_GTS that you want, just without the added "body mods" that the devs can do.
Personally, i don't want to see any more re-hash's of the old cars, im hoping for the "rally pack" and S3 to contain NEW car model's, not a bunch of remade S1/S2 car's.
mr_x
20th August 2005, 00:04
im hopeless at RWD at the best of times, so i usually only drive FWD or 4WD cars
Nick_ll
20th August 2005, 02:39
How about putting slicks on the LX4 instead? Since it is the 2nd least used car ATM, maybe it would help its popularity to change its use?
DodgeRacer
20th August 2005, 02:43
I like the idea of the XRGT GTR :) I enjoy the FOX because its like the F08's little brother, and its fun to sometimes let loose in somthing i dont have to be so on edge to drive, there really isnt anything like that for the GTR cars, the road cars come close but they dont have that "race car" feel to them, quite a different form of racing.
Blackout
20th August 2005, 06:11
It would be very cool, I would drive it :)
Woz
20th August 2005, 06:37
If the car was added that class (UFR,XFR) would become far more popular. Just being FDW at the mo limits the popularity the GT GTR would bring more people in because they would be the fastest non downforce class. 3 great cars with v different characters, would give some great races :)
JJ72
20th August 2005, 06:38
I would love to drive it, but 4 cars with basically the same car shape...(and especially this carshape)............um...eh...not sure.
DasKlee
20th August 2005, 06:43
why DasKlee.. thats like saying that subaru shouldnt have an STi as their rally car because there is one on the roads........ that makes no sense what so ever
actually i'm saying exactly the opposite.. i can't understand that a possible rally pack should be the reason why we do not have a road-race RB4 ;)
Cue-Ball
20th August 2005, 06:55
If the devs are going to go to the trouble of adding a car, I can think of about a hundred other cars I'd rather see done first.
XCNuse
20th August 2005, 11:49
@dask.. because its gonna be in rally pack; no need for race version :p
@cue-ball ... er okay? whats your point? if your going to say something back it up, dont say you dont want it and thats it.. thats weak writing
dunno im starting to like the idea a little day by day
if done correctly and the cars are extremely even.. then i would like to see it
DasKlee
20th August 2005, 12:09
that could be a good explanation, although i do not hope it is..
in my eyes, there's no reason in not having a roadrace and a rally version of the same cars. and a rally pack with the kit-car like XF & UF, the RB and an offroad FX should be possible, even if race versions for most of the cars already exist
hehe you still did not read the post right ;) we have the same opinion about this - bob said, that there will be no RB4 because of the rally pack and i just replied that the rally pack in my eyes isn't a reason why there is no RBR version
Hankstar
20th August 2005, 14:40
Another XR? If it could compete with the UFR and XFR, why not .. except that it would be another XR-shaped thing ..
M.Mos
20th August 2005, 15:34
More cars for the gt2 class would be great , but not the XR. If a XFR and UFR crash the XFR which is havier is like a Tank and send the ufr flying all over the track. Now the XR would/should be even havier then the XFR.... so it could destroy a ufr witout noticing it.
I think a "RWD looks like the ufr" would be it. Best would be a RR car rather then a FR. So it would be similar unbalaced like the XFR and UFR .... Fiat 600 Abarth style :)
http://www.carsfromitaly.com/others/abarth1000tcr_200.jpg
But then a XR GT2 would be better then nothing.
frokki
20th August 2005, 16:27
If the devs are going to go to the trouble of adding a car, I can think of about a hundred other cars I'd rather see done first.
@cue-ball ... er okay? whats your point? if your going to say something back it up, dont say you dont want it and thats it.. thats weak writing
But that WAS the point. Why to make another (boring ?) remake of the most used car in the game, if there's hundreds of more interesting car types around there?
IMO The karting is good idea.
I also would like to drive a small RWD racing (touring) car with not too much power. That could be similar to UFR and XFR then.
XCNuse
20th August 2005, 16:51
well mainly because if you want it to be in S2.. then using a car thats already in the game like most cars are right now... then it would taken a whole month to model a whole extra car
by using the XRGT as the base.. then you just have to mod a few things out and balance it
rather than starting from scratch
DasKlee
20th August 2005, 17:27
i still would favour the GTS/GT2 version of the RB oer yet another variant of the XR... - the XR has 3 versions, which i think is more than enough..
it's slow, medium fast and fast, so why add a 'not so fast but faster than medium' version? :really:
the RB deserves to be there in a race version - but i said that before
XCNuse
20th August 2005, 17:47
the RB deserves to be there in a race version - but i said that before
..ya but there arent many more poeple than you and i that want an RBR.. dont really know why; guess we'll have to see what we land up with with the rally version
DasKlee
20th August 2005, 18:01
..ya but there arent many more poeple than you and i that want an RBR.. dont really know why; guess we'll have to see what we land up with with the rally version
i guess if the title of this post would have been, wich car would you like to get as a christmas add-on
O LXR (for LX GTS)
O XRS (for XR GTS)
O RBR (for RB GTS)
O RAR (for RAC GTS)
the decision wouldn't have been that clear at all..
but if soemone asks me do you want the XRS as addon car, my first thought is 'Yes, of course' because every free addon is great - if someone asks, i'm going to give you one free addon, which would you chose, the decision would probably not that clear...
Misko
20th August 2005, 19:22
Best would be a RR car rather then a FR. So it would be similar unbalaced like the XFR and UFR .... Fiat 600 Abarth style :)
http://www.carsfromitaly.com/others/abarth1000tcr_200.jpg
Oh yeah, that would be perfect! People from ex Yugoslavia (among others) would greatly apreciate the good old "national class" car. ;) Small light slow rwd - much fun. :) Road version competitive with either the UF1 (more likely) or XFG, and race version for XFG+UFR.
Either that or previously suggested Clio V6 mid engine type of thing.
nesrulz
20th August 2005, 19:49
Yes, Fiat 600 Abarth must be in LFS !
And Yugo 55 1100
http://www.mrm.co.yu/RacingTeam/images/gp15.jpg
Misko
20th August 2005, 20:26
Nah, Yugo is fwd we got plenty of those already.
Fića - interior: :)
http://www.nacionalnaklasa.net/galerija/usce2005/images/usce13_jpg.jpg
doesn't it look like LFS, even has a nameplate ;)
nesrulz
20th August 2005, 20:54
Nah, Yugo is fwd we got plenty of those already.
Yes, but Yugo is GOD of fwd cars :)
Fića - interior: :)
http://www.nacionalnaklasa.net/galerija/usce2005/images/usce13_jpg.jpg
doesn't it look like LFS, even has a nameplate ;)
LOL ! :) :trampolin
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