After S3 will that be S4?

[Bad-Aries]

I just wonder if there will be S4 coming out, then 4 x 12 pounds becomes 48 pounds. In US most of the new games won't be more expensive than $50. If so is it a little expensive?

If there is no S4, so the S3 will be a complete release of LFS and we should be waiting for LFS2 S1 coming out?

I am just curious. Please forgive me if this question is too stupid.

Thanks.

[Scottie]

From what I can recall, there will be no S4.

[deggis]

AAAARGH! It's funny to even think about "S4" when we haven't even got full S2.

[Forbin]

Old timers around here will remember that the original plan was to have four releases, S1-S4. However, around the time S1 was released, this was narrowed down to three, S1-S3.

[Roadie]

ill be dead by then...

[joeynuggetz]

LOL - We'll have race sim brain implants by then too.

[Gunn]

I'll have S3 by then.

[FPVaaron]

Will there be S18?

[Zoltuger]

when S17 is released in 2054, then we can think about S18

[AndroidXP]

I just wonder if there will be S4 coming out, then 4 x 12 pounds becomes 48 pounds. In US most of the new games won't be more expensive than $50. If so is it a little expensive?

If there is no S4, so the S3 will be a complete release of LFS and we should be waiting for LFS2 S1 coming out?

I am just curious. Please forgive me if this question is too stupid.

Thanks.
As many other people have pointed out, there will be no S4. But even IF there was an S4, the price of 48£ would be more than justified IMO. Even now in S2 Alpha I had more fun with LFS than with any other game, but it was only 24£ till now. Just imagine the pure awesomeness S4 would be, that's easily worth three "normal" games.

Or just think about the EA syndrome. Every year a "new" game for 50$. Is that really cheaper?

[V3NOMOUS]

S4...would be nice but we all having fun with Demo , S1 , S2 and when S3 comes out we will have more cars

[Bad-Aries]

As many other people have pointed out, there will be no S4. But even IF there was an S4, the price of 48£ would be more than justified IMO. Even now in S2 Alpha I had more fun with LFS than with any other game, but it was only 24£ till now. Just imagine the pure awesomeness S4 would be, that's easily worth three "normal" games.

Or just think about the EA syndrome. Every year a "new" game for 50$. Is that really cheaper?

But what I was waiting for is that LFS could allow import or create new cars and tracks. As far as I know, S2 Patch Q doesn't allow us to do that (if it could, can some one please correct me?). I have purchased S2 but I am still considering something else becasue of this. I really like to race LFS in a real Track.

Every year for a "new" game for $50 of course isn't cheap, but you can see the EA F1, people are still playing it. How old is that game now?

[AndroidXP]

Modding/adding cars and tracks will very likely not be implemented in S2, a better guess would be with or after S3. The reason for this is, with the game developing all the time, the tools are being modified too and it simply wouldn't make sense to release tools that have to be relearned every few weeks.

Personally, I'm rater glad we don't have that yet. The amount of car/track combinations is pretty huge even now and many combos don't even get played at all (it seems). I doubt adding mods would help this case in any way.

[mrodgers]

As many other people have pointed out, there will be no S4. But even IF there was an S4, the price of 48£ would be more than justified IMO. Even now in S2 Alpha I had more fun with LFS than with any other game, but it was only 24£ till now. Just imagine the pure awesomeness S4 would be, that's easily worth three "normal" games.

Or just think about the EA syndrome. Every year a "new" game for 50$. Is that really cheaper?
If LFS would continue on going the route of S4...S5...S6...etc. then it would not be good to continue the 12£ for each because eventually, total newbies to LFS wouldn't buy it. For us who are already licensed, an additional 12£ is a great bargain for each installment, but to someone just discovering, say S5 or S6, it wouldn't be an additional 12£ for them. It would be 60£ or 72£ and that won't sell any new license deep into LFS's future. Eventually it would have to start over again to draw new folks into the fold.

[Dygear]

If LFS would continue on going the route of S4...S5...S6...etc. then it would not be good to continue the 12£ for each because eventually, total newbies to LFS wouldn't buy it. For us who are already licensed, an additional 12£ is a great bargain for each installment, but to someone just discovering, say S5 or S6, it wouldn't be an additional 12£ for them. It would be 60£ or 72£ and that won't sell any new license deep into LFS's future. Eventually it would have to start over again to draw new folks into the fold.

LFS : T1

T for Team, LFS v2 that focus on the team element of racing.

[JJ72]

I think if we manage to go S6 S7 whatever we wouldn't be selling S1 to S5 as seperate package anymore, because by then we should already have a "completed" game and anything beyond is just additional and minor addons, so it can be something just partime for the devs, hence it doesn't have to charge as much as it does now.

[AndroidXP]

LFS : T1

T for Team, LFS v2 that focus on the team element of racing.
Worst name ever.
Reminds me of the most hated turn in a public race :D ;)

j/k

[Da Mc Style]

Hey man, why s4, s5, s6, ... .
If s3 is out, enjoy it the rest of your life !
Who gets tired of LFS anyway...?

[AndroidXP]

Well, as it stands now, S3 will be the final version of LFS anyway. That also means, that I wouldn't expect S3 before 2007, maybe even 2008.

[GianniC]

Why is it named "S1" and "S2" ? I mean the "S" ?
Cause of "LFS 1" and it got shorted to S1 ?
Was just wondering..:scratchch

[three_jump]

S means Stage..... ;)
-> Live For Speed Stage 2 = LFS S2

[tristancliffe]

LFS Stage 1, Stage 2, Stage 3.

"LFS is to be released in 3 stages"...

[Rob76]

Modding/adding cars and tracks will very likely not be implemented in S2, a better guess would be with or after S3. The reason for this is, with the game developing all the time, the tools are being modified too and it simply wouldn't make sense to release tools that have to be relearned every few weeks.

Personally, I'm rater glad we don't have that yet. The amount of car/track combinations is pretty huge even now and many combos don't even get played at all (it seems). I doubt adding mods would help this case in any way.

I think this is part of why I can always find a race to join even late in the evening 5 or 6 hours out of sync with Europe (the biggest LFS market). Start allowing mods and suddenly the number of players thins out over more servers, and the extra players who might be attracted to LFS if it was moddable probably wouldn't compensate.

In FPS type games where the number of players online is orders of magnitude larger than LFS, mods, maps and total conversions are great, but in the niche area of online racing I think one of LFS's strengths is that the content is currently tightly controlled. OK, in rFactor I can fire up a pretty good recreation of Lime Rock Park and/or run the F3 mod, but it's a total ball ache ensuring you have the up to date version of any mod before you even attempt to find someone online who wants to race with it.

So I'd rather see LFS opened up to modding only once the project is totally finished (and from what I gather that's when S3 'final' is released).

[Da Mc Style]

ow from there is the S in S1,S2 & S3

[Rappa Z]

Your in the here and now, not then and there. I'm one of the youngest S2 users so I'll se it all.

[afastest]

Scawen's project of his life is LFS (besides the kid of course). He's good at making it, likes it, and I think will stick to it for many years. If there won't be S4, I'm still sure he will work on LFS after S3, maybe adding bikes, making editor, further polishing, the list goes on.

How much it will cost? I don't care. 24£ or 48£, anyhow a good value for the money.

[rediske]

Live for Speed S4

copyright Leo Roberts

;)

[NaBUru38]

If we say that each stage (S*) is realeased every year, 20€/year is a very good prize... if the release is worth it. And I'm thinking it is - the gap between S1 and S2 is quite big. For S3 there probably will be more tracks, cars, options and better physics and graphics engines.

I'm quite sure that after S3, there will come more games made by them (I hope racing games :) ).

[Gunn]

I'm quite sure that after S3, there will come more games made by them (I hope racing games :) ).I seem to recall that they are not planning to make another racing sim after LFS. We shall have to wait and see.

[Bob Smith]

I seem to recall that they are not planning to make another racing sim after LFS. We shall have to wait and see.
Actually I asked Scawen that very question at the karting meet and he said that it wasn't so much a case of not having planned anything yet, but rather than he hadn't given it any thought at all. So even Scawen thinks LFS will take the rest of his natural life. ;)

[Fordman]

We will have S1 to S3. After S3, they will rebrand it to LFS Reloaded and LFS Revolution :D

[boosterfire]

Eventually, we'll reach something like star trek which has been on for like 40 years and we'll get Live for speed star galaxy evolution III:Looking_a

[SamH]

Release date, 2106: Live For Lightspeed

[Bob Smith]

Release date, 2106: Live For Lightspeed
With realtime acceleration, which from standstill at a constant 10g takes just over 35 days. :(

[tristancliffe]

Or infinity if you use the Special Theory of Relativity

[Gunn]

Release date, 2106: Live For LightspeedI tried the pre-alpha-mega-beta demo of that version and ended up going so fast in my first race that I entered a time loop and crossed the finish line seventeen minutes before I was actually born. It's a good thing I always carry a copy of Screamer Rally 3D and a spare Voodoo II video card or else I may never have been retro enough to make it back to the present. :davrosmil

[Julppu]

With realtime acceleration, which from standstill at a constant 10g takes just over 35 days. :(

Not if the cars are fitted with the Infinite Improbability Drive or one using bistromathics.