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Furiously-Fast
25th September 2008, 17:12
I hear complaints about some tracks of LFS that they are too wide and boring. What I think is that we should have a track like South city, just not as wide, more twisty corners and open grass land instead of buildings. Less scenery = less lag! It will be good for one-on-one races, cruise servers, drifters, and even competion races.

What are your thoughts on this?:shrug:

M3THANOL
25th September 2008, 17:38
Ja man, I think that would be awsome:)

JO53PHS
25th September 2008, 18:04
+ 1 million.

Rascar13
25th September 2008, 18:17
Yes, good idea

piggy501
25th September 2008, 18:19
+1

Then have a few gravel routes, turn one into a long Tarmac rally, and a Gravel rally. Or even a bit of both?

Yes, I'm posting a repeat of suggestions. But maybe backing will convince the devs.

thisnameistaken
25th September 2008, 18:35
24hrs of Buxton?

!RAM!
26th September 2008, 10:47
Reminds me of rally sport challenge 2!!!
+5

Maybe have the start in some woodside area and go out into some open grassland area with hills in background.

:)

LFSn00b
26th September 2008, 11:10
Also a top speed track in that environment would sound spot on. +1

maddox106
26th September 2008, 12:41
I hear complaints about some tracks of LFS that they are too wide and boring. What I think is that we should have a track like South city, just not as wide, more twisty corners and open grass land instead of buildings. Less scenery = less lag! It will be good for one-on-one races, cruise servers, drifters, and even competion races.

What are your thoughts on this?:shrug:

This may be the best idea for a track ever :o quick turns bumpy sections... keep you on edge!
maddox

daloonie
26th September 2008, 14:04
It's been proposed before, just in the name of hillclimb. But I support this though. A countryside small twisty roads circuit. With a rallycross version with some offroad parts too?!

asbjoern
26th September 2008, 21:00
+1 from meeee:thumb:

Crashgate3
28th September 2008, 21:03
Something a bit like that Swiss (?) 'festival of speed' track that comes with rFactor.

dougie-lampkin
28th September 2008, 21:17
Countryside B-road circuits +1,000,001. It sounds like with LFS' physics and graphics it could be some of the best racing to be had. I'd still like to see more purpose-built tracks, but this would be brilliant! :nod:

pipa
28th September 2008, 22:22
+++1 lovely idea there

S14 DRIFT
28th September 2008, 22:40
What I want is a typical English B-Road (Widely acknowledged as having some of the best driving roads for normal people), something in the vain of the TT circuit, only 1/8th the length. Same vane of idea, however.

Daviticus
28th September 2008, 23:16
Couldn't agree more.

The handful of times I've been in Europe, the most enjoyment was had either on B-roads or in pubs. :D

Stang70Fastback
29th September 2008, 00:08
I think the best track would be something including a little bit of each of these:

http://www.history.appstate.edu/NEH/BlueRidge.jpg
http://www.carmelcalifornia.com/gallery/scenic-road-lr.jpg
http://www.freefoto.com/images/9907/06/9907_06_24---Country-Road_web.jpg

etc, etc, etc...

Crashgate3
29th September 2008, 11:31
Couldn't agree more.

The handful of times I've been in Europe, the most enjoyment was had either on B-roads or in pubs. :D

Hopefully that way round, and not pubs *then* b-roads...? :D

ColeusRattus
29th September 2008, 13:30
Pah, we all know that americans aren't able to drive anymore after drinking some proper alcohol ^^

CrAbStEr DrIfTeR
29th September 2008, 17:14
+ infinite!!!!!!!! maybe if this was made have it with gravel, dirt and tarmac routes..... this would allow drivers to go on whatever they want but it doesnt have to happen it was just a suggestion but i really think the original idea should be brought to life!!!!

rusty8
1st October 2008, 16:41
+1

BoyGTA
1st October 2008, 16:51
i Think The Best Track Would Be Something Including A Little Bit Of Each Of These:


http://www.freefoto.com/images/9907/06/9907_06_24---country-road_web.jpg

Etc, Etc, Etc...

+1.000.000

Mikey Monkfish
1st October 2008, 17:18
http://www.freefoto.com/images/9907/06/9907_06_24---Country-Road_web.jpg


When I read the title of the thread, I thought "Isle of Man TT", only shorter. :thumb:

LFSn00b
1st October 2008, 17:26
Something a bit like that Swiss (?) 'festival of speed' track that comes with rFactor.Lienz?

J@tko
1st October 2008, 17:28
Lienz?
^ :nod:

ALT0160
1st October 2008, 17:35
+1

Maybe even with water so you could end up like Scandola did in 2006 in the Belgium Ypres Westhoek Rally (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=er4Ea4XIBbU)

duke_toaster
1st October 2008, 17:47
Lienz?

Yeah, that's the one.

For those who don't know it, it starts with a section made up of cobbled streets but most of the track is winding tarmac roads. The cobbled streets circuit is actually quite fun with cars like the rF3 and similar (also the 60s GT mod). The light show in the night is quite good.

It would probably more plausible to have something like this in LFS as a rally stage.

mongoosetierney
1st October 2008, 17:58
B-road circuits +1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Great idea

blisz
1st October 2008, 18:53
+11111118

5haz
1st October 2008, 19:23
Something along the lines of Pau would be fun, I remember seeing F3000's (F08 duh :razz:) powersliding their way around that place, trying to keep out of the towering walls.

So I think a narrow street circuit with some elevation changes would be lovely, running through beautiful landscaped parks.

As for a country road circuit, its very easy to make these look a bit 'artificial' and cheesy (Like Lienz in rF basically), but if done properly it should be good. :)

Perhaps along the lines of Dundrod in Ireland? :)

+1

Crashgate3
1st October 2008, 21:53
Yeah, that's the one.

For those who don't know it, it starts with a section made up of cobbled streets but most of the track is winding tarmac roads. The cobbled streets circuit is actually quite fun with cars like the rF3 and similar (also the 60s GT mod). The light show in the night is quite good.

It would probably more plausible to have something like this in LFS as a rally stage.

Yeah, that's the one I was on about.

I love racing there using the Citroen 2CV mod - they're that low powered you have to change down as you go up the hills :tilt:

mcintyrej
1st October 2008, 22:05
Also a top speed track in that environment would sound spot on. +1

Why would you want a top speed track? Cars can't be tuned so top speed is irrelevant and because its a game and not real you won't get the adrenaline rush. It would just be, cool I'm doing 100, cool I'm doing 150, i feel the same.

+1 for the track idea though.

petercollins
1st October 2008, 23:04
I love the rally tracks from Toca 3, they are really amazing to drive, despite the poor physics.

In LFS something like this would be unreal

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCc1ImqQjxs - Toca 3 rally stage onboard (1m55s)

Matt0snap
1st October 2008, 23:22
These tracks would be AMAZING.

i Think The Best Track Would Be Something Including A Little Bit Of Each Of These:


http://www.freefoto.com/images/9907/06/9907_06_24---country-road_web.jpg

If there was a gravel road that turned off from this I'd die of excitement. This road would give an authentic rally feeling, but it would also give ppl an amazing FBM / FOX circuit to race on.

!RAM!
2nd October 2008, 09:28
This is how i see the track...just more 3D and better looking and put together more and ya!

Up the top where the treack goes through the trees thats meantss to rise as it turns if you know what i mean?
http://img505.imageshack.us/my.php?image=trackcx9.jpg

duke_toaster
2nd October 2008, 20:38
Yeah, that's the one I was on about.

I love racing there using the Citroen 2CV mod - they're that low powered you have to change down as you go up the hills :tilt:

The National Stock Cars are pretty fun on the long track as they are a handful to drive. 60s GT is good there too *starts humming On Days Like These*

batteryy
3rd October 2008, 05:01
+million. this would be an great idea, this is actually why i played rfactor alot. i couldve drive an LMP or formula on this kind of roads and that is really great fun. gets adrealine up tough, so hard to drive fast on bumpy,small roads. if some of u have rFactor try getting the LMP car and driving it on lienz de festival

Dazmyster
3rd October 2008, 22:28
+1 good idea :thumb:

AmirTiti
4th October 2008, 23:11
++1

please i hope the devs are reading this

a narrow track with some hard curve and bumps = a wet dream :nod:

dougie-lampkin
4th October 2008, 23:21
The rFactor "UK Rally" track is the type I'd LOVE to see in LFS. If you have rFactor, definitely take a look. It's not very long, but it's great fun :D

Nick.
4th October 2008, 23:45
+1 for me. Something like Oulton Park? That'd be awesome :D

TexasLTU
5th October 2008, 11:12
+1

flymike91
5th October 2008, 18:45
omg plus hella

SCORacer
10th October 2008, 00:50
I love the rally tracks from Toca 3, they are really amazing to drive, despite the poor physics.

In LFS something like this would be unreal

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCc1ImqQjxs - Toca 3 rally stage onboard (1m55s)

That would be sick in LFS!

LFSn00b
10th October 2008, 08:40
Why would you want a top speed track? Cars can't be tuned so top speed is irrelevant and because its a game and not real you won't get the adrenaline rush. It would just be, cool I'm doing 100, cool I'm doing 150, i feel the same.

+1 for the track idea though.As you can see i've got a bit interested on NFS:Pro Street(NOTE: It's still as unrealistic as hell, but fun to play with) and it has a few top speed(highway) tracks which are really fast.

I was thinking if it would be nice to drive a high speed track built on british b-roads and drive it using LFSTweak and thing?

smove
10th October 2008, 10:17
When I read this thread I feel forced to think back to a famous racing game from 13 years ago. It was called "The Need for Speed" (which I absolutely don't want to relate with today's NFS!).

As the holy Ur-NFS it featured the greatest open street "circuits" of all time:
Fast and fluent track sections meet tricky combinations, heavy ups & downs and confusing tunnel runs and narrow alleys, high-speed Autobahn runs meet heart-stopping coastline races on hanging roads, with the cliff just centimetres beside you.

There wasn't anything like that in the past 13 years, at least not with the relatively realistic physics and original racing that TNFS had at that time.

Please bring this feeling back. :)

http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=8pmVx977z4Q

Crashgate3
18th October 2008, 20:03
For those who've got rFactor and haven't tried it already, I found the perfect example of the kind of thing people are discussing.

http://www.rfactorcentral.com/detail.cfm?ID=UKRally


http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=yA12GYff020

Apparently it's a conversion from a Race Driver 3 track and consists of a good 8 or 9 miles of twisty country roads, with juinctions and crossroads and a few jumps if you're going fast enough.

http://www.rfactorcentral.com/screenshots/lge/31-Aug-08-rFactorCentral-6429_GRAB_093.jpg

duke_toaster
18th October 2008, 20:20
The rFactor "UK Rally" track is the type I'd LOVE to see in LFS. If you have rFactor, definitely take a look. It's not very long, but it's great fun :D

It is the stages in TRD3. Rather good but not great. And it is a conversion. I recognise it :P

A number of rally stages set in country roads set somewhere like Cornwall would be good. Blind corners, nearby hedges. Mistake = three wheels on car.

Tonttula
18th October 2008, 20:27
+1 from me awesome idea!

Mackie The Staggie
18th October 2008, 22:39
being biased here but you can't beat the roads in the highlands, espically around loch Ness (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jKDDhcSob0&feature=related).

p.s. commercial radio in the highlands at it's best :D

Gills4life
19th October 2008, 01:14
being biased here but you can't beat the roads in the highlands, espically around loch Ness (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jKDDhcSob0&feature=related).

p.s. commercial radio in the highlands at it's best :D

I love the A835 between Ullapool and Lochinver ! :tilt: Great road to drive on.

http://www.stacpollaidh.co.uk/Pics/ullapool_flat6.jpg

piggy501
19th October 2008, 07:28
I think the moral of the story is visit Scotland

Gills4life
19th October 2008, 10:16
I think the moral of the story is visit Scotland

I do every summer :thumb:

These roads are great, a lot of fast blind corners with bumps and yumps in the road. Narrow and twisty! Potentially dangerous but very fun. I would love to see something like this in lfs. Maybe point to point style with a reverse version aswell. That would be super :tilt:

TiJay
19th October 2008, 11:17
+1million for a country road, as it's something that all games seem to lack, yet offers some of the greatest experiences :thumb:

That UKRally track is in RD3? Cool, I got that game a couple of days go.

Vinnylegends
19th October 2008, 11:29
+100000000000000000000000000. This would make LFS the best game Sim ever!
Also we need a nice and Beefy rally car!

cathal50cc
20th October 2008, 23:46
+1111111111111111111111111111!!!! love to drive on a tricy like tarmac rally stage like a donegal rally :):thumb::nod:

THE WIZARD DK
21st October 2008, 20:33
I had an idea about getting old real life race tracks in lfs... like SPA in belgium. it used to be around 14km long but they shortened it to 7km. so why not make it to lfs in that old version.. other tracks has been shortened too like HOCKENHEIM , and many more. that would change the scenery in lfs... no doubt alot of people are tired of the same enviroments, but my thought about it was... why not do a 100km long track. in one direction it could be like driving through a city and the other way could be either offroad or countryside... i for one like the different scenery in xpand rally as you go through finland, ireland, grand canyon... etc..
therefor you wont get bored by scenery... i must point out that there is existing MODS for lfs that works in Z patch. like Trackah123 night,desert,future,snow,autumn mods, but i also got pearlscent and jamaica mods too. some better than others, but still. what i have done is: i mod a .exe and extract one more to a new lfs folder and put on a different mod. you get 3 unlocks a week. using 3 one week. using 3 next etc. i now have a cruise mod all the above, and a race mod (highres textures) . and a original lfs .exe. so it IS possible to see (the same) tracks but in a kinda different perspective...

im all up for new tracks in lfs... as many as possible can get in... dirt race cruise... everything.

i would like tho to go in a forest, like pines hanging all over you or in the jungle would be a cool place for rally tracks, like deserts. mud is a texture i also would like to see in lfs, as with weather systems. like fog and rain.

100% in for it... my novel ends here... (the butler did it)

boosterfire
21st October 2008, 22:09
Puh-lease, we don't need another 50-50 tarmac-dirt track. It's an awful concept and we already have too much of it in the game.

I agree, however, that some kind of narrow country-side track would be a good thing, and I'm sure there are plenty of those all over the world to take ideas from. Really, I like SO, but after a while, the walls get annoying. For instance, the chicane in SO would be a much better corner if you actually saw where you were going. A blind corner-chicane? That's not only a lack of realism, it's just insanity if you're not on a league race.

I actually wonder what SO would look like if you just took the same circuit and put it in the middle of a field or something.

S14 DRIFT
21st October 2008, 22:23
Puh-lease, we don't need another 50-50 tarmac-dirt track. It's an awful concept and we already have too much of it in the game.

I agree, however, that some kind of narrow country-side track would be a good thing, and I'm sure there are plenty of those all over the world to take ideas from. Really, I like SO, but after a while, the walls get annoying. For instance, the chicane in SO would be a much better corner if you actually saw where you were going. A blind corner-chicane? That's not only a lack of realism, it's just insanity if you're not on a league race.

I actually wonder what SO would look like if you just took the same circuit and put it in the middle of a field or something.


That's half the fun... I'll be honest I know exactly where the track goes that it's probbably only 5% that I ever faq it up, I'm sure many others are the same. It's a challenge, and it also makes it more exciting in a race environment. If you smash into the wall coming out then I suggest you try taking it differently o_O;;; Many a fun and good overtaking move are executed there...

Breizh
23rd October 2008, 06:48
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=yA12GYff020[/IMG]A country road track with a few configurations like that would be really very fun with LFS' physics. Even if only for hotlapping. There could even be a very long track configuration with insim scripting to roll players one at a time like in autocross and rally events. The track environment could have a hillclimb configuration, too.

cathal50cc
23rd October 2008, 15:05
what is it with u people and hill climbing ???:really:

ferraif40
23rd October 2008, 15:40
Hi

Nice idea!

The nearest thing on LFS is the return road from the drag strip

Jon

LFSn00b
23rd October 2008, 15:58
+100000000000000000000000000. This would make LFS the best game Sim ever!
Also we need a nice and Beefy rally car!FZ5 + Tweak = Group B fun :D

boosterfire
23rd October 2008, 18:23
That's half the fun... I'll be honest I know exactly where the track goes that it's probbably only 5% that I ever faq it up, I'm sure many others are the same. It's a challenge, and it also makes it more exciting in a race environment. If you smash into the wall coming out then I suggest you try taking it differently o_O;;; Many a fun and good overtaking move are executed there...

Yes, I agree that after a while you personally have little chance to fook it up if you're a reasonably good driver; however, if someone else has crashed in the second part of the chicane and that you enter it at normal speed, it's 99% guaranteed crash. And it can get a lot worse if it's in the first laps of a race where everyone is all bunched up. Crashes at the chicane in beginnings of races are a common reason to restart races on classic and chicane route.

I like the chicane if every thing is going fine and there's a clean race, but I find myself raging on it a lot when there's an accident because I know it's the corner itself that most likely caused the crash, or at least made it worse by being a blind corner.

Besides, the chances that such a corner would be track-legal IRL are next to nil. :shrug:

Crashgate3
23rd October 2008, 23:15
That's the beauty of virtual circuits though. We can drive fun and challenging corners without having to worry about whether or not an ambulance can get there.

cathal50cc
24th October 2008, 13:32
FZ5 + Tweak = Group B fun :D u have a rally group B tweak set 4 FZR ? if so can i try it :D plz

Nadeo4441
27th October 2008, 19:21
More tracks , more fun ! Especially with those :thumb:

+2^256