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whitey6272
3rd February 2006, 15:30
What is it, and how do i adjust it.. as if im right in saying you can improve the visuals dramatically, i have a radeon 9800 pro
cheers,
Don
3rd February 2006, 15:33
right click on desktop -> properties -> settings -> advanced -> 3D -> Direct3D -> use user settings -> and there you move the 2 sliders to the right (6x and 16x) ...turn on lfs and you will see the difference
whitey6272
3rd February 2006, 15:37
its 4x and 16x for me..?
Don
3rd February 2006, 15:39
weird, i have radeon 9800pro also and i have 6x...
whitey6272
3rd February 2006, 15:41
:( thats strange, maybe i need new drivers..? i have no idea about GFX cards if that was a dumb suggestion

Oh sorry its ok i got it ;)
whitey6272
3rd February 2006, 15:42
Will my card be unstable? like when i play something else?

what resolution should i use in have a 19" TFT
Don
3rd February 2006, 15:42
where was the problem?

i dunno, i play only LFS and RBR, both with maxed AA and AF settings...in lfs it makes no difference for me in FPS, in rbr a little bit...
whitey6272
3rd February 2006, 15:46
Ok, i just clicked custom settings and it had 6x on the bar in there..

Erm, does it matter what resoultion?
Don
3rd February 2006, 15:51
AA and AF works in every resolution upto 1600x1200 on radeon 9800pro (in higher res there is no AA or AF)...
whitey6272
3rd February 2006, 15:53
HOLY MASH PATATO BATMAN, it looks so much cleaner and smooth for this a dance is in order :static:
AndroidXP
3rd February 2006, 15:57
Hehehe, just make sure to use the 5.11 drivers, anything newer is bugged and may transform LFS into single-digit-fps-mode.
whitey6272
3rd February 2006, 15:59
Thanks, how do i check what my current drivers are?
whitey6272
3rd February 2006, 16:02
?? is that it
Bean0
3rd February 2006, 16:06
Aye, you have the 5.7s.

It might be worth getting the 5.11s, but any newer has issues with LFS.
whitey6272
3rd February 2006, 16:09
How do i get 5.11 i feel a bit stupid being really dependant on all your help guys, but im clueless. :)

Dont you have to delete current drivers before new ones aswell?
AndroidXP
3rd February 2006, 16:14
I'm sure Google will help you (http://www.google.at/search?q=ati+catalyst+5.11+download) ;)
Bean0
3rd February 2006, 16:16
Go here (http://www.ati.com/support/driver.html)
On the left, Windows XP > RADEON > Previous Drivers & Software
There you'll find the link to the 5.11s

You can get the Catalyst Uninstaller from the same page :)
whitey6272
3rd February 2006, 16:17
Ok thanks bean0

Im downloading the 2nd one down on this page https://support.ati.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=894&task=knowledge&folderID=27 (1 with catalyst control center) how do i go about removing my old driver before i install this one?

You can get the Catalyst Uninstaller from the same page
looking now
Rumiko
3rd February 2006, 16:18
what resolution should i use in have a 19" TFT

1280x1024 is the native res. of your TFT, so you should stick to this in my opinion.
Vendetta
3rd February 2006, 16:19
AA and AF make such a huge difference. Now i cant play without it :D
AndroidXP
3rd February 2006, 16:30
how do i go about removing my old driver before i install this one?IMO uninstalling is only needed when you either downgrade, or switch brands (from ATi to nVidia). I've never uninstalled my drivers when upgrading and I yet have to experience problems with this method.

But it really depends on who you ask. Some people are really paranoid about this and recommend to completely clean your system of any driver trails (like in temporary archives, etc) each time you change them. Personally, I wouldn't be too concerned. I mean a million of other users was able to install them, you will be too. ;)
whitey6272
3rd February 2006, 17:39
Thanks guys, have new drivers etc and this catalyst control panel is awesome compared to the old 1
wien
3rd February 2006, 18:39
AA and AF works in every resolution upto 1600x1200 on radeon 9800pro (in higher res there is no AA or AF)...I know it says that in the Control Panel, but I run LFS @ 1920x1200 with 4xAA and 2xAF on my 9800. Works like a charm. Any more of either, and it's is a no go though. (The 9800XT can probably go even higher. 256MB RAM on those.)
Mogar
4th February 2006, 03:10
I know it says that in the Control Panel, but I run LFS @ 1920x1200 with 4xAA and 2xAF on my 9800. Works like a charm. Any more of either, and it's is a no go though. (The 9800XT can probably go even higher. 256MB RAM on those.)


In such high resolution, I would lower the AA setting to 2x and raise the AF setting to at least 8x. I believe that in such high resolution AF tends to be more critical to image quality than AA, since higher resolution round the edges, but don't fix the texture anisotropy problems.
kwijibo
5th February 2006, 07:35
I found that 4xAA by itself made no difference at all, then i turned on 2x AF and it all looked a bit blurry. I have a 6600GT

Can someone do a side by side comparison shot?
Mogar
5th February 2006, 11:13
I found that 4xAA by itself made no difference at all, then i turned on 2x AF and it all looked a bit blurry. I have a 6600GT

Can someone do a side by side comparison shot?


If I'm not wrong, 2xAF is just not sufficient to give a higher image quality than standard filtering (like bilinear filtering). Try 8x, and look for the curbs and asphalt textures on a medium distance.
whitey6272
5th February 2006, 14:46
I took 2 screenshots 1 with AA and AF as defualt and 1 with 6x AA and 16xAF

Il leave you guys to figure which is which :p
Roadie
5th February 2006, 17:04
one on the left has 6xAA /16xAF :P
AndroidXP
5th February 2006, 17:05
Yeah, that was like REALLY hard to figure out :rolleyes:
Blackout
5th February 2006, 17:36
Ooooh what a puzzle :D
whitey6272
5th February 2006, 18:51
fg