Round 2 Pre-Race Discussion

[J@tko]

UF1 @ Fern Bay Club :)

30 laps :)

This should be another close one, as the UF1 is renowned for providing close racing. Luckily, there's only one corner where we might see lots of people rolling onto their roofs :tilt:

The ballast system will also play its part - travis' ballast will cost him about 0.5 seconds a lap I think - and it's not even the most he could have had - if this race was later in the season then he might have had 36kg ballast :schwitz:

So hows the practice going?

[JO53PHS]

I don't think we'll have that much rolling. If it was a UFBR race then I'd be saying scrap the racing and have a most-epic-rolling competition, judged by me, the king of rolling. :D

[GreyBull [CHA]]

Please, can you post here some explications about your ballast system? I want to know how it works:nod:

[Mike Bingo]

I wouldn't mind a learning a bit about it too.

[J@tko]

OK, then I will.

Basically, there are 2 factors that decide the amount of ballast you have:



Your position in the last race
Your overall championship position (from R3 onwards)

ATM (this may change, though it seems about right to me), 1st place in either of the above gets you 3% ballast, 2nd 2.5%, 3rd 2% e.t.c.

So, the maximum amount of ballast you can have (by leading the championship and winning the last race) is 6% of the car's unladen mass.

I've used % rather than a set mass as the cars we use are different.

e.g if the winning ballast was, say 50kg, it would have a different effect in different cars. In an RB4, it wouldnt make that much difference as its a tank already, but 50kg in an FBM would cost you alot of time :)

[Mike Bingo]

Would anyone be willing to give me a setup for the next race, I only have a qualifying setup that I got from setupgrid

[hyntty]

I've got no idea wheather this was the right set but I'll find out later...

[faster111]

Just to let you know if u want to warm up or anything your welcome on our team server when we have the track and uf1 and 30 laps up. Server is called DecalWareRacing

[J@tko]

Just to let you know if u want to warm up or anything your welcome on our team server when we have the track and uf1 and 30 laps up. Server is called DecalWareRacing
Ty.

Seeing as none of the FRO servers are on the right combo atm!

[faster111]

np happy to help.

[Hypothraxer]

Would anyone be willing to give me a setup for the next race, I only have a qualifying setup that I got from setupgrid


What's so bad about that setup? I've tested it on FE1 for 30 laps it seemed to work out okay for me (consistent lap times from lap 1 to 30).

[faster111]

DecalWareRacing server is set to 30 laps and fernbay club feel free to come online.

[Mike Bingo]

I've got no idea wheather this was the right set but I'll find out later...Thanks man.

I managed to run 20 laps practise no problem with the qualifying set but I'm having a bit of trouble braking into turn 4 using the qualifying set.

[JO53PHS]

Is the back of the car stepping out? If you're using a wheel + pedals it might help to not push the brake pedal down so much. :)

[Mike Bingo]

Yeah I'm using a wheel and I'm not mashing the pedal anywhere near as much as I would but I touch the pedal and the back end starts to get away from me a bit unless I line the car the car up for it through turn 3.

[JO53PHS]

If you're just touching it, do you really need to brake at all? Would just letting off the accelerator do it?

[faster111]

My new pb at min is 0:56:78 is that good or bad?

[hyntty]

Keep practicing.

[faster111]

I am doing.

[Mike Bingo]

I'm consistantly running around the 0:55.60 mark once I get the heat into the tyres

Is anyone up for a bit of practise or know of a server where I can go practise against real opposition?

[hyntty]

I would give you a server (to practice on, not to keep) if I could fart one up.

EDIT: FRO|FORMULARACING|CART is teh server

[J@tko]

I would give you a server (to practice on, not to keep) if I could fart one up.
Try eating your burnt tuna sandwich - you might get some wind then :tilt:

[hyntty]

Dammit I didn't makwe enough sandwiches, now I'm still hungry. And when I'm hungry I can't think straight. Or atleast be in a good enough mood to ask the FM guys for a server.

EDIT: fro|formularacing|cart is set to the combo

[faster111]

I'm consistantly running around the 0:55.60 mark once I get the heat into the tyres

Is anyone up for a bit of practise or know of a server where I can go practise against real opposition?


What lap do u get your tyres heated up?

[Mike Bingo]

Everything is normally warmed up after lap 2

[D.Zanetti]

Everything is normally warmed up after lap 2

Your kidding me right? :really:

Tyres wont get warm in the uf1 until about 10 laps.

Im in low 54s, should be able to break 53s. Looking forward to racing with you guys.

[GreyBull [CHA]]

Tyres wont get warm in the uf1 until about 10 laps.


That's because you're not pushing enough. :shrug:

[J@tko]

I won't be here for the race, sadly :(

[Hypothraxer]

Your kidding me right? :really:

Tyres wont get warm in the uf1 until about 10 laps.

Im in low 54s, should be able to break 53s. Looking forward to racing with you guys.

Hm - could you tell me how you're doing that? Usually my left side is heated up after 2 laps and at the ~28 lap mark they start turning slightly reddish. Lap times are equal to yours (low 54).

[D.Zanetti]

Hypothraxer, ill be online tonight if your up for abit of racing? Search for my username, at about 18.30pm, ill come for some practice with you if you like. :)

[Hypothraxer]

Hypothraxer, ill be online tonight if your up for abit of racing? Search for my username, at about 18.30pm, ill come for some practice with you if you like. :)

Sure - I assume you mean 18:30 UTC?

[D.Zanetti]

Sure - I assume you mean 18:30 ETC?

Well I meant last night, but I had to do some testing for the new league that we at ICON Racing are about to start.

I should be able to get online again tonight, 18.30pm (BST), which is 17.30pm for you. I look forward to racing with you and meeting some of the competition, so ill see you on the UF1 server (# UF1 - Funship #).

Also, do we have a mandatory pit stop for this round?

[Hypothraxer]

18:30 BST would be 19:30 for me (Zürich is GMT+1) ;) Or to convert it into UTC (LFS Time): 18:30 UTC is 20:30 for me. But I can always peek into the server and see if you're there :)

[Chrisuu01]

Im looking forward to this round i do need to paste my number on the car dont I?

UF1 + Fe1 is realy great fun!!

[J@tko]

Im looking forward to this round i do need to paste my number on the car dont I?

UF1 + Fe1 is realy great fun!!
Yep you do.

FYI guys, we're using a 'noob' layout for this round - doesnt affect the racing line, the only major change is a line coming into T3 to try and help you not rolling it on that nasty kerb :thumbsup:

[hyntty]

FYI guys, we're using a 'noob' layout for this round - doesnt affect the racing line, the only major change is a line coming into T3 to try and help you not rolling it on that nasty kerb :thumbsup:

Eh?

[J@tko]

Eh?

:thumbsup:

EDIT: Correct layout added to post

[Chrisuu01]

:thumbsup:


U mean the actual flat out chicane ore the shar turn before you enter the fast series of S turns?

[Hypothraxer]

How do you handle the exit-pit-lane-lines when the race starts? Are we allowed to cross the pit-lane lines at start? Or do we have to pull to the left?

[hyntty]

4. Blend Lines
b. You are not to cross the blend line on exit of pit lane. A drive through penalty will be
assessed if all four wheels cross this line.
c. You may cross the line on pit entry.


So you don't have to pull to the left as long as you keep one wheel on the left side of the line :really:


The above was sarcasm, intended for Mr. J. Atkinson. In every racing series on this globe the blend line rule is supposed to only concern those who are exiting the pits. Either this is the stupidest rule on earth, or someone failed again.

[Mike Bingo]

I'll go with the fail option

[J@tko]

U mean the actual flat out chicane ore the shar turn before you enter the fast series of S turns?

The latter

So you don't have to pull to the left as long as you keep one wheel on the left side of the line :really:


The above was sarcasm, intended for Mr. J. Atkinson. In every racing series on this globe the blend line rule is supposed to only concern those who are exiting the pits. Either this is the stupidest rule on earth, or someone failed again.

Don't look at me - Deko made the rules!

[dekojester]

This rule only applies to cars in pitlane. You may cross them if you are on-track racing. You just need to make sure you don't ram into anyone exiting. But the blend lines rule only applies to cars entering/exiting pitlane.

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[gremwood]

Well I'll be there on Saturday, and since I'm there...

For those of you with the tail issues: There's a trick with this combo, in the UF1, you want to be aggressive. On/Off throttle gaps should be as quick as possible, as needed. As soon as you turn in and there's oversteer, you want to even out, stay on the throttle, then adjust also as needed.

[thesloth]

Well I'll be there on Saturday, and since I'm there...

For those of you with the tail issues: There's a trick with this combo, in the UF1, you want to be aggressive. On/Off throttle gaps should be as quick as possible, as needed. As soon as you turn in and there's oversteer, you want to even out, stay on the throttle, then adjust also as needed.


Shhhh!! Don't tell everyone :doh:

[JO53PHS]

Oi!

FYI everyone, Jack (I think) failed and posted the old layout. I will post the newer version of the layout soon.

[J@tko]

FYI everyone, Jack (I think) failed and posted the old layout. I will post the newer version of the layout soon.
Yeah, I think you're right.

Edit my post please :)

And welcome back! Slept with any hookers?

[JO53PHS]

Hell no.

[CSF]

Swear I will be there this time. Got caught out by my own stupidity last time. :tilt: :D I have even put my trip to the pub back until after the race. How committed am I? :razz:

[JO53PHS]

All racers will recieve a PM tommorrow with details of the race, the server, and dates/times :)

[travyd]

Awesome. Look forward to racing again! :) Doing consistent 54s with a 53.69 as a pb with the ballast, funnily enough the same time as CSF. Shaping up for a good round! :nod:

[thesloth]

Awesome. Look forward to racing again! :) Doing consistent 54s with a 53.69 as a pb with the ballast, funnily enough the same time as CSF. Shaping up for a good round! :nod:

Sounds like you be wanting some more ballast. :smileypul

[blackbird04217]

Just to let you know Head-to-Head is this weekend, again and I will be missing LFSBC for it... (Kinda need to stick to prior "contracts" first.)

But anyways, I should be able to compete in the 3rd (next) event as there is no Head-to-Head for the reasons of conflicting with IGTC. Hope all of you guys have fun :D

[CSF]

Awesome. Look forward to racing again! :) Doing consistent 54s with a 53.69 as a pb with the ballast, funnily enough the same time as CSF. Shaping up for a good round! :nod:

I think I have done about 15 laps. Knowing you like I do, you will have done a hundred. :razz:

[travyd]

You've done 80 to my 31 mate. :razz: Btw, this race will be starting at the same time yeah?

[JO53PHS]

Here's the proper layout that we'll be using

(It's also attatched to J@tko's post further up the thread)

You've done 80 to my 31 mate. Btw, this race will be starting at the same time yeah?

All the times are in the PM I sent.

[Mike Bingo]

I'm kind of confused by the start time because I have no idea what UTC time is

[JO53PHS]

UTC = GMT


The UK are currently on BST which is GMT + 1 hour :)

[Hypothraxer]

If you start a single player race you can see the actual UTC time on the bottom of the screen as well as your local time.

[Mike Bingo]

thanks, that clears it up a lot

[dekojester]

If you start a single player race you can see the actual UTC time on the bottom of the screen as well as your local time.

FINALLY ! Someone else notices that fact !

And JFYI, it also shows in the end race screen in multiplayer. So stop by an empty server sometime and see it. :-)

See you all soon for the race !

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[Mike Bingo]

So does anyone besides myself have a goal this evenings race, mine is to not finish the bottom 3rd of the results.

[JO53PHS]

Mine is to try and be at the race :D

We're not definitely not going to see friends tonight. I just have to hope that dinner is not at race time and that I don't have to look after my bro or summin

[D.Zanetti]

Second Place is just the first loser

Ill keep that in mind, but seriously,i think my ultimate goal is just to stay on track and make no errors, hopefully a good qualy position will help me out with that.

[dekojester]

Server now set to track and layout. FP starting soon.

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[D.Zanetti]

What a joke my connection is, fine all night untill race. Get pole lead first laps then bye bye Mr internet and im out of the race. :jawdrop:

[Mike Bingo]

Unlucky my friend, a shame cos you were on fire

[Hypothraxer]

Aye - the 53.23 in free practice were unbelievable. Hopefully you'll have more luck next time.

[thesloth]

What a joke my connection is, fine all night untill race. Get pole lead first laps then bye bye Mr internet and im out of the race. :jawdrop:
Same here...my connection went pear shaped between free practice and quali. How gutted am I??:(