What brand GFX card do you have?

[Stang70Fastback]

This is just really to satisfy my own curiosity. Just wondering which is more popular among the LFS community.

[Töki (HUN)]

Now I have a crappy old 9600XT, but I'm building a new PC in the summer. I'll put 8800 GT in it. I've never had Nvidia card, now I'll have one :)

[U.S. Racer]

NVIDIA Geforce 8600M GT in my Macbook Pro.

[Nathan_French_14]

2x Nvidia Black Pearls

[Dennisjr13]

I'm surprised ATI is winning. I have a 8600GTS in this computer (AMD X2 2.4Ghz) and a 6600GT in the old 1.8Ghz P4 for LFS.

[LineR32]

I got a ATi 9550 256MB in this machine.

[zeugnimod]

I just equalized it. 10/10 :tilt:

[NathanRx-7]

Mine aint very good but it runs games with a little tweaking (I meen like Bioshock n stuff)
ATI Radeon Xpress 1200 series

[scoobyrbac]

I have an Nvidia 8600GT OC Edition 256mb

[ddd9022]

Now I have a crappy old 9600XT
same shit :D

[BBO@BSR]

Atm:
NVIDIA GF 8800 GT
NVIDIA GF 8500 GT
NVIDIA GF 6800 GS
NVIDIA GF FX 5900

no ATI for me, sold a lot of them, placed it in many PCs but never bought one myself :shrug:
(I think started to not like them when I first had trouble with the drivers, many many years ago :)).

[Bose321]

ATI FTW :thumb:

[Jakg]

Looking at the size of the companies, nVidia should win.

Intel GFX cards (if you can call them that) are fitted to over 50% of all PC's, so by volume they are (scarily) the "best" GFX card manufacturer.

[NitroNitrous]

nVidia 7900GTO BiosMod 720/1720Mhz here.

My log:

Something with 8mb
nVidia TNT2 Model64 Pro
nViida MX440 64mb
nVidia 6600 256mb (Now in my server rig)
ATI X800XT PE (Very nice one)
nVidia 7800GS (The worst car ever, what a crap of card)
nVidia 7600GT
nVidia 2x7600GT SLI BiosMod (600/1650Mhz) + Zalman VF700 AlCu (Very fast setup a year ago)
ATI X1800XT 512mb + Zalman VF900 (Good one, but poor overclock)
nVidia 7900GTO BiosMod 720/1720Mhz (My actual card, memory from 1320Mhz to 1720Mhz pleased my overclock thirst, and I get it for free )

I definitely prefer nVidia

[DHRammstein]

Why not, I went like this... Not including integrated chipsets, lots of those.

Voodoo 2 16MB I think..
Voodoo 4
GeForce 2
GeForce 3
GeForce FX5200
Radeon 9600XT
Radeon X800Pro
GeForce 7800GSOC AGP
GeForce 8500GT 512MB GDDR2
GeForce 8600GT OC 512MB GDDR3

[NetDemon01]

GeForce 9600 GT

[e2mustang]

7950 gt ko superclocked(factory) its still pretty good,i would like to build a brand new computer,but i dont wanna throw this1 out :)

[Riders Motion]

Nvidia 7600GT 512mb here. :D

[MINIz guy]

Hrm...I have one of each.

8800M GTS in the laptop.

And a X1950XT 512MB in the desktop.

If I had the choice to buy a new graphics card right now, I would go nVidia. But since the ATi 4XXX series is coming out soon, I may have to wait as they are said to be mighty powerful.

[h3adbang3r]

EVGA 8800GTS 512 here.

Also, I have an old Ati Rage 128mb card in my server.

[spacedskunk]

Overclocked 8800GTX here.

[Fabri91]

ATi X1950XTX here...

[Kniebeejs]

Hd3850

[CobraDrifter]

7950GT - I've broke 2 ATi,I'm not going to buy another one.

[Equi]

ATI Radeon 3870 Overclocked one ^^,

[Crommi]

I don't really like spending huge amounts of cash on top of the line graphic cards. Always gone for stuff that has given good performance for the price.

3Dfx Voodoo3 2000
ATI Radeon
ATI Radeon 8500LE@something
Nvidia GF6800GS@Ultra
ATI Radeon x1950Pro@XT
ATI Radeon HD4850

[gacek1]

Nvidia 8600 GTS 256mb

[james12s]

Nvidia 8600 GTS 256mb
same here, the inno 3d ichill one

dan12s is gettnig the same soon, im fitting it for him

[Bose321]

ATi X1950XTX here...

same :) it's nice :D

[Dajmin]

nVidia here. Currently a 7900GS Extreme.
I want to upgrade to 8-series but they're still a little out of our price range :)

[james12s]

nVidia here. Currently a 7900GS Extreme.
I want to upgrade to 8-series but they're still a little out of our price range :)
you can get an 8600gts from novatech for 46 quid

http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/specpage.jsp?NOV-86GTS

[Dajmin]

That's fair enough, but my girlfriend would complain if I didn't upgrade hers at the same time. So everything I buy I need to get 2 of. And unfortunately that takes us into "just too expensive" territory :)

[james12s]

lol fair enough, how about if you put a slightly cheaper one in hers

[Dajmin]

I'm not that mean. And she'd notice anyway. Our PCs are identical so if I was getting a top frame rate and she wasn't, she'd know something was up :)

[james12s]

ah ok, does she race lfs as well then ??

[Dajmin]

No, but she does use a lot of the stuff that I do. Or I guess in the case of EQ I use something she does. I don't want to go "hey look, I've got shadows on and it's at full detail and I'm still get 60fps!" while she's going "then how come mine is struggling at 15?" because that way lies an argument :)

We have a garden needing £300 of work done (/sob) and I'm about to start driving lessons then buy a car, and the 7900s are still more than enough for what we use the PC for 99% of the time. I keep looking at dual core CPUs and new gfx cards, but there are other things need sorted first. Unfortunately :)

[Stefani24]

2600hd iirc, but ati isnt the brand of the card, only of the chip, the card's from sapphire iirc.

[Luke.S]

i've got an inno 3d 8600 gt the 216mb one.

[Jakg]

2600hd iirc, but ati isnt the brand of the card, only of the chip, the card's from sapphire iirc.It's an ATi, Sapphire just use the licensed design.i've got an inno 3d 8600 gt the 216mb one.You mean a 256 MB one, unless your card is running something crazy like a 108-bit bus...

[G!NhO]

i have an Intel GMA 945 shipset 224mb shared, now

i will get the ATI Radeon HD4850 512MB :D

[ReVoX]

Nvidia XFX 8800GTS 640mb

[G13Haze]

XFX GeForce 9600GT XXX Alpha Dog ed.

[G!NhO]

i just got my new pc with ATI radeon HD4850 512mb, it runs most games on max settings, but Colin Mcrae DiRT i can run 1680x1050 all high and 4xAA

[Powered by AMD[ARG]]

ATI Radeon HD 3870 here.

My history:
Trident 1Mb in a Pentium 150Mhz
3DFX Jazz Voodoo Rush 6Mb
GeForce 256 32Mb Leadtek
GeForce 2MX 32Mb ELSA
GeForce FX 5200 XFX 128 Bits
ATI 9600 Pro
ATI 9800 Pro
ATI X800 Pro@16 Pipes w/Zalman Heatpipes
GeForce 7300GT 128Mb GDD3 Leadtek
ATI X1650XT
GeForce 7900GT (horrible Video quality)
ATI X1900XT
ATI X800GTO2
ATI HD 3870 GDDR4

The most I loved were the X800s ones, with VIVO support. They are awesome for LFS :)

I absolutely prefer ATI, great Video Quality.

[Jakg]

Log:
Matrox {something}
No idea,
Sapphire ATi Radeon 9000 Pro (with a 1.1 GHz Duron it was a beast - maxxed NFS:STFU!),
Sapphire ATi Radeon 9600XT 128MB,
2x XFX nVidia 6600GT's 256MB (In SLi, which never worked),
Gainward nVidia 7950GT 256MB "Golden Sample",
Asus nVidia 8800GTX,
Asus 6600GT "Silencer" (Second card added for SoftTH).

[Bob Smith]

Log eh? In case anyone is bored enough to read it:

* Unknown EISA 1MB SVGA card, no 2D acceleration (on a Contaq motherboard (http://stason.org/TULARC/pc/motherboards/F/FUJIKAMA-USA-INC-486-80486DX-33-50MHz-CONTAQ-MAIN.html), oh yeah) - that was 4 times the normal memory capacity back then!
* IBM (?) integrated 1MB (PCI era) - back when USB ports were first coming out
* S3 Virge integrated 1MB
* something else for about two weeks, might have been 3D, PCI or AGP
* nVidia RIVA TNT2 AGP 32MB
* nVidia GeForce 2 MX AGP 32MB
* nVidia GeForce 3 Ti200 AGP 64MB
* ATI Radeon 9100 AGP 128MB
* ATI Radeon 9200 AGP 64MB (for second system)
* nVidia GeForce 6600GT AGP 128MB
* ATI Radeon X1800XT PCIe 256MB, with some random heatpipe cooler
* nVidia GeForce 6200 AGP 128MB (for second system)
* ATI Radeon X700 PCIe 128MB (secondary card in main system), with Arctic Cooling Accelero S2 (passive)
# ATI Radeon HD 4870 PCIe 512MB - not bought yet, but planning to

[jonny__27]

Nvidia. It's a Geforce FX5200.

btw ain't the "other" option missing? I remember before this one i had a SiS Xabre 400...

[Powered by AMD[ARG]]

so you should also add Kyro...

[MataGyula]

Good topic :p mines were as follows :
- some integrated thing in my 486
- riva TNT
- Sapphire ATi 9600XT (128 MB,now in my friends PC :D)
- Sapphire ATi X1650PRO (512MB,still in my PC)
- ATi Mobility Radeon HD2600 (512 MB,in my notebook)
ATi FTW :p

[frokki]

Nvidia 6800 GT that has been running at > 100 degrees celcius for several months. Can play LFS fine for 3-5 laps until it starts to struggle.

[Electrik Kar]

Nvidia 8800 GTS 512.

Great card and nVidia are going nuts with the driver releases lately, Crysis extremely playable now at 1900x1200 with the latest 177.41 betas- I'm gonna be sticking with this card for awhile, methinks... :scratchch

[Luke.S]

It's an ATi, Sapphire just use the licensed design.You mean a 256 MB one, unless your card is running something crazy like a 108-bit bus...

yh i mean 256mb.

I have better hd playback than an 8800gt :P

[dev]

My first, second and current PC have a nVidia card, so will my future PC :)


Riva TNT2 32MB
Asus EN5750 128MB
?? 7600GT 256MB

[Richie Cahill]

9800gtx nVidia

[Gabkicks]

I just got my ATi 4850 today :D it eats everything up.

[audimasta]

Nvidia XFX 8800GTS 640mb
Nvidia Gainward 8800GTS 640mb

In SLi :) very happy with them both.

[shiny_red_cobra]

ATI Radeon 4870 in my new computer, ATI Radeon 9600XT in my old computer, ATI AIW Radeon 7500 in my older computer, ATI AIW Radeon 7200 in my even older computer, ATI Radeon 7000, in my much older computer, and ATI Rage 128 Pro in my oldest computer. :thumbsup:

[Riders Motion]

ATi fanboy eh?

I only had 2 computers in my life so...

1st - Nvidia 5700GX
2nd - Nvidia 7600GT

I might buy a used 8600GT or 8800GT unless someone tell me that 2 7600GT in SLi are as good. :tilt:

[unseen]

NVidia all the way. Until a couple of days ago, 2x OC`d 7800GTX`s in my main machine (now sadly only one :(), a mix of 6xxx and 5xxx in most of the other machines, and only one hideously old dusty ATI thing in the slowest of the slow boxes running a text based linux.

[Monkeymike]

Lately it's been all Nvidia for me - I did have the 3DFX Voodoo cards back in the day though. My first actual card was an S3 Dirge - sorry Virge.

Last few:
Geforce 3
Gainward 6600 Ultra
Asus 7950GX2
EVGA 8800GTX KO

Currently
8600M GT (in my laptop)
BFG GTX280 OC

[NitroNitrous]

I add a HD4870 with Zalman GV1000 to my log :shrug:

[Chrisuu01]

Nvidea Gforce 9600 GT

I think

[Crashgate3]

512MB Radeon X1950XTX.

Lots of Xs in the name, but it's getting old now. Probably get a 4870X2 or if nVidia gets its collective arse in gear by new year, the successor to the GTX280.

[Takumi_lfs]

HD4870 512mb

Is there a way to change my option? :shy:

[Luke.S]

I've now got a Club3d Nvidia 9800GT 512mb

[pinoykid13]

Radeon 9200
asus Nvidia 8500 gt
my laptop has a nvidia m9500gs

[Hyperactive]

Heh, here's my short history with different graphics cards:
Matrox G200 + Voodoo 2 16Mt (I think...)
Geforce 3 TI500
Geforce 7800GT
ATI hd 4870

I usually buy the latest and fastest GPU and then use it for about three years. Comes pretty close to 3,3 years as the first one was bought in '98. All cards have probably been well over 400€ except for the latest ATI card. The performance leap especially from voodoo2 to Geforce TI500 was quite noticeable :tilt:. As for the current card, investing 200€ more to get a 4870x2 or GTX280 didn't seem to pay off so I settled for one 4870, also being my first ati card. So at some point I might be looking at upgrading my gpu instead of doing full upgrade as I didn't invest into the latest card this time. First though I need to get a silent cooler for this one but I'm happy so far ;).

*diary out*

[Shadowww]

Laptop1 (ASUS): Intel onboard GMA 950
Laptop2 (HP): GeForce 8400M GS
Desktop1 (it is a LFS server + CS server): GeForce FX5200
Desktop2 (best of my rigs :D): GeForce 8600GT

[Kniebeejs]

Let's see. You have 4 comps at home, but you still don't have S2? :really:

[Byku]

Desktop: Radeon 9500Pro
Notebook: Ati X600SE mobility ;p

[gacek1]

nVidia 280GTX 1gb memory

[orange_boy_uk]

nVidia 8800GT 512MB :D

[Shadowww]

Let's see. You have 4 comps at home, but you still don't have S2? :really:
Man nav ne krediitkartes, ne pejpela.
I have nor creditcard, nor PayPal. :(

[SpyDa-LV]

Club 3D HD 3850

[floodan]

Gtx 260 :)

[chavm481]

nvidia 7100 ftw!!!!!!!! im gettin a new card soon.

[naRipsta]

Just throwing this in there,

512MB ATi Radeon X1600 Pro.

[mclarenmatt]

ATI Radeon 3870 512mb.

Bargain at 66 quid :)

[blackbird04217]

nVidia GTX 280
and
nVidia 8800 GTS XXX

[tenmantaylor]

Nvidia Quadro FX3500 in a Dell Precision M90 workstation laptop.

Not designed as a gaming card but it's amazing for LFS.

[Bose321]

2x HD4850 1x 1950XT 1x HD2600 AGP

Does that count 4x for ATI? :shy:

[shiny_red_cobra]

If it does then I should count for 8x ATI lol.

[Magus_X]

I had an nVidia Geforce FX 5200 XFX
now i have a 8600GT XFX XXX Edition

[DC2]

a geforce 6600gt since 2003 :>

[JohnUK89]

a geforce 6600gt since 2003 :>

Impossible, they weren't launched until April 2004 :razz:

EDIT: nVidia GeForce GTX280 here

[Takumi_lfs]

Impossible, they weren't launched until April 2004 :razz:

EDIT: nVidia GeForce GTX280 here

I still have my 6600gt and look what it sais.

Best of tom's 2002 and 2003 :tilt:

[(-Mark-)]

i currently have a nVidia 7600GT but soon ill have a ATI 4850

[teedot]

eVGA 8800GT 512MB

[Gunsmith]

3x 768mb 8800 GTX's here

best card since the Voodoo2

[Riders Motion]

This thread shows something.


Nvida > ATI

[shiny_red_cobra]

You win for pointing out the obvious. BTW the totals are at the top of the page for future reference. :D

http://img384.imageshack.us/img384/350/16851as6.jpg

[amp88]

ATI HD3870x2

[FexM]

i have a nvidia 6600 gt passively cooled

[Riders Motion]

Nevermind ATI rocks. :D

[Tezuka]

Radeon HD4850 512mb

I might upgrade to the 280 killer, the 4850 X2 later down the road. I wonder how the X2 will fair against a 295 when crossfired with my card? :scratchch

[mclarenmatt]

ATI Radeon 4870 512MB.

[hazaky]

I'm surprised ATI is winning.
Yea right :D

[Daemonic]

Nvidia FTW.

7800GT with a voltmod for maximum O/C. Its old but can hold its own. LFS 1680x1050x32 max everything never less than 90FPS.

Had an ATI.. The catalyst drivers blew so hard I never even considered owning another.

my .02

[niels1]

Nvidia

2x8800GTS 512 SLI EVGA :shrug:

Runs like a charm.

[Chrisuu01]

Nvidia

GeForce 9600 GT

Gives me al I want

[Feffe85]

pny 8800gt 512mb edition...
muuuuch better then my old 7800gtx :P

[[Viking]]

ATI Radeon 3870 X2 HD... or something. Good power, but I hate that I can't switch primary monitor when I have my TV connected. Every time I want to get up from my desk and start LFS on the TV, I have to manually switch primaries by turning them off one by one and extending the desktop once again with the TV first. Clone obviously won't work because my TV is 1920x1080 pixles and the small 22" monitor is 1680x1050. Also, the game only starts on the primary monitor, even in clone mode.

[racer hero]

Nvidia all the way. 9800 GT here.

[Blackknight555]

My new Nvidia GeForce duel DVI 9600 GT 512mbs kills my old 5500fx!

I had to move one of my HD's up a slot just to get it to fit....big card!!





(XFX Play Hard!!)

[polepositiondriver]

I've had some issues in the past with some ATI cards, but the one i'm using at the moment has been very good to me, I currently own a 512mb HD4850 MSI Graphics card and I have my love for ATI Back :)

[RaceUK]

Nvidia 9600gt 512mb

[white92talontsi]

2 evga gtx295's in sli for quad sli.

[DHRammstein]

Edit: Just made an upgrade.

Voodoo 2 16MB I think..
Voodoo 4
GeForce 2
GeForce 3
GeForce FX5200
Radeon 9600XT
Radeon X800Pro
GeForce 7800GSOC AGP
GeForce 8500GT 512MB GDDR2
GeForce 8600GT OC 512MB GDDR3
New GeForce 9800GTX+ 1GB OC (I'll be adding a second in a few weeks)

[Senninha25]

I have a ATi Radeon 2600HD. it's better for LFS, but my previous graphics card worked much better with other games...can anybody give me a suggestion about a better and cheap graphics card or a link to a Graphics card suggestions-like thread?

[Jakg]

Log:
Matrox {something}
No idea,
Sapphire ATi Radeon 9000 Pro (with a 1.1 GHz Duron it was a beast - maxxed NFS:STFU!),
Sapphire ATi Radeon 9600XT 128MB,
2x XFX nVidia 6600GT's 256MB (In SLi, which never worked),
Gainward nVidia 7950GT 256MB "Golden Sample",
Asus nVidia 8800GTX,
Asus 6600GT "Silencer" (Second card added for SoftTH).
And now - PNY nVidia 8800GT 512MB.

[DHRammstein]

Jakg, did you downgrade from the 8800GTX, or break it or? The GTX is quite a bit more powerful than the GT.

[Jakg]

I got the GT from work for £49.97, and sold my GTX for £130 - In all the games I tried it in it was almost as fast (by about 1 or 2 FPS) as the GTX, and while I liked the vRAM I hate the HUGE size and noise so I swapped and got £80 in my back pocket.

The difference isn't as big as you'd think.

[DHRammstein]

I just checked toms hardware, and you're right, in the sum of all benchmarks the GTX was maybe 3-5% faster, and the 9800GTX about 10-15%. Now I realize why Nvidia released the 9800GTX+, it's incredibly superior to the others. 9800GTX owners must be pissed since the release of the + version, I guess I lucked out having to wait.

[Amplifier]

Nvidia 9800GTX :)

[Feffe85]

PNY Verto Geforce 8800GT 512MB, is what i have right now :)

[DHRammstein]

For almost a year I was recommending the 9600GT's to everyone, because they perform very well, GDDR3, 256bit memory controller, allowing good resolutions and reasonably powerful shading. But now you can get a 9800GT for the same price, and also time has passed and I'm not 100% certain if AMD/ATI has improved their drivers, or how much. ATM because of history I'd still have to recommend the 9800GT, and for a few dollars more, ppl with a very large monitor, the 9800GTX+.

[Meanman]

1 XFX nvidia 9800 GTX+, runs great. :thumb:

[DHRammstein]

Just made more huge upgrades, and added the second 9800GTX+ 1GB OC, along with the new cpu and ram. (In sig)

[5haz]

ATi Radeon X700SE 512mb

Because the latest Nvidia gfx drivers give me the BSOD, curse them!

[Ripley]

Ati x1950xtx

[shaun463]

ATi Radeon X800 PRO VIVO 256mb AGP. It runs LFS with maxxed out graphics (albeit at 1024x768 75Hz 32-bit) at 50fps. That is fine for me ;). Only trouble is that it only does this as I overclocked it. This means it randomly overheats alot.

[STF]

Some ATI here.

[DSElement]

nVidia 9800GX2 :]

[Origamiboy]

BFG nVidia GTX 285 OC 1gb... :)

[{CA}Nighthawk]

MSI Geforce GTX280 OC with 1GB of VRam

[Tisty]

ATI Radeon
- SAPHIRE HD4870x2 2Go here.

[DHRammstein]

I certainly hope those of you who bought GX2 cards didn't get them for the purpose of running LFS... Those cards are for running high end DX9/DX10 first person shooters in extremely high resolutions with graphics maxed out, including AA.

(EDIT) lol Sorry I made a very long post, if you're bored go ahead and read, it's just my opinion, well kinda, on why I run what I'm running. On topic, Nvidia: BFG GeForce 9800GTX+ 1GB OC
Myself I had the choice to buy whatever I wanted. My tax guy made some huge mistakes last year, H&R Block caught on to it, and I got an extra $3,700 on top of my regular return this year. And since I've been very careful and living on a tight budget, and I've finished modding my mustang cobra, I was able to get whatever I wanted. I did the research, plus (im not willy wagging, but..) I really do know a lot about video cards and what is really needed, depending what kind of system ya have, and what size monitor you use, also if you plan to upgrade to a larger monitor, etc etc.

Anyways, I realized that one 9800GTX+ would be plenty for me, even for Crysis. The GTX+ version is incredibly superior to the regular GTX, not only at stock speeds, but you can overclock the hell out of the GTX+, that is, if the vendor you bought it from didn't already, most of them do, cause they're 55nm, whereas the regular GTX is 65nm, it's actually a huge difference, more than I ever thought possible.

So, I bought one, it ran every single game I own, and I own many, I'm always searching for specials/sales and so I have almost every FPS game ever released lol. Anyways, the only game it couldn't sustain 60fps+ with max graphics (oh,and I don't use AA in FPS, not necessary when you're running a high resolution. I'm running 1680x1050, on a 20" LCD, not a 22", so tighter, smaller pixels, only old games need AA forced on, and especially LFS, although it's not a FPS so nm that's off topic) sooo...as I was saying, the only game I coudln't run and sustain at least 60fps with graphics maxed was Crysis, of course. But, with everything on high, at my native resolution, already mentioned, and no AA, and 16xaf(I max AF on every game, period) it averaged around 40-50fps in wooded areas, beach areas, stuff like that. But near towns and stuff, it would struggle some and average around 25-35fps, 25fps being when there's a LOT going on, like the absolute worst situations. Which is actually quite good, but since the card was so cheap, and BFG has lifetime warrenties, and I liked it just, sooo much compared to other cards I've ever owned (Price vs performance best ever, with the 7600GT SC in 2nd), I couldn't help it, and I bought a second one, so now I can run anything maxed out, and I should be able to do so for a good 4 years. Two 9800GTX+'s in SLI, even if you don't overclock, are killer. I murder Crysis no problem. 60fps all the time, when nothing is going on I get amazing frame rates, and when in towns where all crazyness is happening, or say the snow level, it still stays around 60 fps, and I only paid, what, like $270, that's unbeatable. I didn't even consider a GTX 200 card, I'm not buying another video card, period, until Nvidia finally supports DirectX10.1, and therefor will support DX11, which will be a while, sadly, DX10.1 doesn't have better graphics, but the performance enhancements over regular DX10 is badass. Which is my only beef with Nvidia right now. ATI I love too, I'm not biased, but I'm tired of hearing about their driver problems. But I think I'll buy another ATI card one day, who knows, perhaps even my next upgrade. Other than my GPU, which absolutely has to be the best bang for buck right now, with the radeon 4850 right there with it, the Radeon 4870 is an absolute beast, my only issue was the price. The performance is good, but it's not superior enough to my GTX+ to justify the extra $110 at the time. AND, no way in hell will I attempt to run a Crossfire setup anytime soon, I hear nothing but absolute hell about it, while Nvidia is well proven and I know myself works flawlessly.

OMG LOL, I'm sorry I didn't mean to just write on and on like that, I lost track of time and I'm bored waiting for my girl to get home. Anyways, Nvidia :)

[MijnWraak]

It was my understanding that the 9800gtx+ was manufactured with 65nm tech, but the gts 250 was the one with 55nm. I could be wrong, but I'm pretty certain. (btw, would it be worth getting 1gb version instead of 512mb if I run 1440x900?)

on topic: XFX 7600 GT XXX

[anik360]

got an xfx Geforce 8800gt Alphadog bios moded to 670 core, 1000 mem. and 1700 on shaders. Runs crysis decently with modified TOD's and new extreme details config. :D
gpu-z validation: http://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/nf28a/

[DHRammstein]

It was my understanding that the 9800gtx+ was manufactured with 65nm tech, but the gts 250 was the one with 55nm. I could be wrong, but I'm pretty certain. (btw, would it be worth getting 1gb version instead of 512mb if I run 1440x900?)

on topic: XFX 7600 GT XXX

http://www.dvhardware.net/article28059.html


The GeForce 9800GTX cards are all 65nm. However Nvidia moved to 55nm and called them the 9800GTX+. These cards are far superior, much higher clock speeds, I mean, majorly higher clocks, less heat, less power, huge overhead for overclocking. The true reason for Nvidia going to the 55nm process with the 9800GTX+ was actually a test bed for the upcoming GTS 250. It's identical to the 9800GTX+ 1GB, except that they bumped the memory up to 1100, so 2200, versus the 9800GTX+ 2000mhz. Although virtually everyone who owns a 9800GTX+ has overclocked the memory to at least 2200 with ease, with very little tempurature change, these cards are kick ass at 55nm.

[Luke.S]

ain't the 9800gtx+ and the gts 250 the same card? I thought i read the new 9800gtx+'s are called the gts 250.

[Stiggie]

The extreme edition by XFX.
Runs pretty hot though. 75-80 degrees under load, and it idles at around 56 degrees.

[G!NhO]

The extreme edition by XFX.
Runs pretty hot though. 75-80 degrees under load, and it idles at around 56 degrees.

What processor do you have and how is the performance of this card, i might be buying one of these. :)

Also how much did it cost?

[Bose321]

What processor do you have and how is the performance of this card, i might be buying one of these. :)

Also how much did it cost?
Get a 2nd 4850. Cheaper and about as fast(er) then a gtx280 on the benchmarks i've seen.

[Shadowww]

Get a 2nd 4850. Cheaper and about as fast(er) then a gtx280 on the benchmarks i've seen.
AnTI have buggy drivers and crappy CP (CCC), and you smell AnTI fanboy.

[MijnWraak]

AnTI have buggy drivers and crappy CP (CCC), and you smell AnTI fanboy.
:really: You are the one that smells of Nvidia fanboyism. ATI was ridden with buggy drivers back about 2 years ago. Since then they have been flattened out and are as stable as nvidia's. (I have owned a 7600gt, 4870, and a gtx 260 core216 is on it's way, so don't call me a fanboy) Albeit, I prefer Nvidia's AA along with its control panel and folding power above ATI, but that doesn't make ATI worse.

[S14 DRIFT]

AnTI have buggy drivers and crappy CP (CCC), and you smell AnTI fanboy.

I "personally" find their drivers OK and I have no problem navigating the CCC, I rarely even have to open it, right click on the tray tool icon tends to let me change what I need.

Since my Nvidia 6200 that this PC originally came with, having ripped it's guts out and replaced it the innards, I've gone through an ATi X800XL which was great and overclocked nicely. Then I had an ATi X1900XT which again, overclocked to 5% past the XTX speeds without a problem. Now I'm on my 2900HD running standard clock speeds and it all the games I play fine..

I've never had a failure from ATi but I'm thinking of getting the new Nvidia GTXsomething or other, simply because it's rated as better than ATi equivalent but I don't know/care. It's fine as it is and I'm not in a rush to change it. :)

[Shadowww]

:really: You are the one that smells of Nvidia fanboyism. ATI was ridden with buggy drivers back about 2 years ago. Since then they have been flattened out and are as stable as nvidia's. (I have owned a 7600gt, 4870, and a gtx 260 core216 is on it's way, so don't call me a fanboy) Albeit, I prefer Nvidia's AA along with its control panel and folding power above ATI, but that doesn't make ATI worse.
ORLY? While mine PSU was failing, LFS was running like 45-50 fps with HD3200. But what a 45-50 fps?! I mean, do AnTI cheat framerate? It looked as choppy as 15 fps, really.

[Thunderhead]

ORLY? While mine PSU was failing, LFS was running like 45-50 fps with HD3200. But what a 45-50 fps?! I mean, do AnTI cheat framerate? It looked as choppy as 15 fps, really.

WARNING: Fanboy Logic (TM) Detected. Brain reinstall might be necessary. :razz:

[Shadowww]

WARNING: Fanboy Logic (TM) Detected. Brain reinstall might be necessary. :razz:
orly?
Mine 600W PSU failed, so while it was on warranty, I had to use 300W PSU. It wasn't able to power 9800GT, so I had to use onboard (on motherboard) Radeon HD3200.

[Thunderhead]

orly?
Mine 600W PSU failed, so while it was on warranty, I had to use 300W PSU. It wasn't able to power 9800GT, so I had to use onboard (on motherboard) Radeon HD3200.


Oh I see.

I thought you had a something similar to me: nVidia 8800 GTS, and a failing Corsair HX520 PSU which we figured out that was the culprit later. Anyway during trouble shooting we started lfs and although the fps counter showed 250+ everything looked more like 0 fps. Changed to other PSU-works flawlessly.

Sorry.

But, still, the fact that you pretty much insulted Bose, are 3 years behind with the knowledge of Ati drivers which you base around their low end GPU(atleast you seem so,)(if we had this convo 3 years ago, I'd call ati crap too, but when someone sorts their shit out, due credit is due), does demand an brain reinstall. :razz:

[Stiggie]

What processor do you have and how is the performance of this card, i might be buying one of these. :)

Also how much did it cost?

If you would've taken your time to post that.. you would have looked at my sig where it clearly says ''Q6600 @ 2.4 Ghz.''
The performance is great, i can just play virtually every game on high(est) settings, 1680x1050 without any problems. It's comparable to the GTX280.
If you want even more power, you could look for the XFX GTX 260 XXX, or the XFX GTX 260 Black Edition. I don't see why this would be neccesary, as this thing has all the power you need imho.
However, if you've got a small screen, you won't even need this kind of power. the 4850 or 4870 or whatever you have now would be plenty. I don't see why you would want to buy a new videocard..
Bought it for 179,95 at paradigit, but the price has gone up to 189,95 since i bought one.

[MijnWraak]

If you would've taken your time to post that.. you would have looked at my sig where it clearly says ''Q6600 @ 2.4 Ghz.''
The performance is great, i can just play virtually every game on high(est) settings, 1680x1050 without any problems. It's comparable to the GTX280.
If you want even more power, you could look for the XFX GTX 260 XXX, or the XFX GTX 260 Black Edition. I don't see why this would be neccesary, as this thing has all the power you need imho.
However, if you've got a small screen, you won't even need this kind of power. the 4850 or 4870 or whatever you have now would be plenty. I don't see why you would want to buy a new videocard..
Bought it for 179,95 at paradigit, but the price has gone up to 189,95 since i bought one.
I ordered one of these (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130482) for $155usd. Arrived today and couldn't be happier. Much better frames than 4870, as the games I play (source games mostly) prefer Nvidia. I'd recommend this to anyone looking for a card at this budget. Prices have really plummeted!:smileypul Bought it for futureproofing for Diablo III, Cities XL, and Starcraft II. Wanted the PhysX tech for other games, too. Hope card doesn't crap out a day after warranty :p

[Bose321]

Shadowww, You say I'm a fanboy? :really:
How can you compare a HD3200 to a 9800? Please tell me. And I don't know what you're talking about with the drivers, because I never had trouble with them, and then run great. Just because you compare less good ATi's with better Nvidiots(take that), doesn't mean ATi is crap. It seems you know quite less about graphics cards, because you just spam in personal things, and not in facts. Please, don't reply with useless stuff. Just have a normal discussion for a change. :)

[Shadowww]

Shadowww, You say I'm a fanboy? :really:
How can you compare a HD3200 to a 9800? Please tell me. And I don't know what you're talking about with the drivers, because I never had trouble with them, and then run great. Just because you compare less good ATi's with better Nvidiots(take that), doesn't mean ATi is crap. It seems you know quite less about graphics cards, because you just spam in personal things, and not in facts. Please, don't reply with useless stuff. Just have a normal discussion for a change. :)I don't compare HD3200 with 9800GT, AnTI(take that) fanboy. It looked as choppy as 10-15 fps when fps counter showed 40-50 fps.

[AutoPilot]

And that's your argument to conclude CCC and ATI drivers are crappy?
It's far more likely that the reasons are non-driver related. You said you switched from 9800GT from 3200HD. Did you use driver removal tool? Even if you did use it, are you sure you properly removed everything, many removal tools leave stuff. Perhaps LFS was printing the wrong numbers, did you try FRAPS, or some other game? Etc, etc... And besides, it's far more important what the card's performance was, than what one particular game printed out.

My dad has nVidia 6150 IGP and LFS is a lot choppier than on my 4870. Must be crappy nVidia drivers, right?

[Shadowww]

And that's your argument to conclude CCC and ATI drivers are crappy?
It's far more likely that the reasons are non-driver related. You said you switched from 9800GT from 3200HD. Did you use driver removal tool? Even if you did use it, are you sure you properly removed everything, many removal tools leave stuff. Perhaps LFS was printing the wrong numbers, did you try FRAPS, or some other game? Etc, etc... And besides, it's far more important what the card's performance was, than what one particular game printed out.I installed XP AFTER I removed 9800GT, so it didn't had NVidia drivers.
LFS was installed after it too.
My dad has nVidia 6150 IGP and LFS is a lot choppier than on my 4870. Must be crappy nVidia drivers, right?But you don't have 40-50 fps which look like 10-15 fps, do you?

[Feffe85]

omg, retard-weekend?

whatever, nvidia or ati, they're good at different things.
i.e i had an old gefore2 pro.. it was good as hell, tho it didnt work in all the games i had so.. bought an ati 9200le, it was good, for awhile... upgraded my comp, got an 7300gt, it was AWESOME.. upgraded again -> 7800GTX, and now im on a 8800GT..

my point is, we all go through different stages in life where we love one brand, then move on and gets the other brand.. all my cards have been awesome tbh, just that you need to upgrade after a while anyhow.

im guessing my next card will be an ATI nnnnx2 as i have always wanted one of those :) and it will kick the crap out of the card i have now. so tbh its not comparable..

fanboy this, fanboy that... its just bullshit anyway. we will NEVER think the same about all stuff that u can put in a computer ffs.. sure im not an ATI-lover.. but i would sure as hell want to try one of their newer cards.

EDIT: whats up with the poll? "nvidia, ati or integrated" ? wtf.. if i have an integrated ati/nvidia, how do i do then? :/ should be like "intel, nvidia, ati etc etc etc etc"

[Jakg]

Log:
Matrox {something}
No idea,
Sapphire ATi Radeon 9000 Pro (with a 1.1 GHz Duron it was a beast - maxxed NFS:STFU!),
Sapphire ATi Radeon 9600XT 128MB,
2x XFX nVidia 6600GT's 256MB (In SLi, which never worked),
Gainward nVidia 7950GT 256MB "Golden Sample",
Asus nVidia 8800GTX,
Asus nVidia 6600GT "Silencer" (Second card added for SoftTH),
PNY nVidia 8800GT 512 MBAnd now an HIS ATi 4830 for PC #2

[Bose321]

And now an HIS ATi 4830 for PC #2
All in one computer or what? :D

[Zipppy]

I have an ASUS EN9600 GT GPU currently, it's powered by thea Nvidia GeForce 9600GT chip. my first computer back in '02 had an integrated Intel card (10 FPS on LFS or less), then my next PC had an Ati Radeon Xpress 200 Series (integrated with 128 mb max). The integrated GPU that came with this computer's MB (ASUS M2NPV-VM, a media centre board) is an Nvidia GeForce 6 series (256 mb max), my PC was supposed to be a media centre for the TV, but the tuner card for it was not working.

[Stiggie]

Little question: Temperature-wise, i would like to know how these temperatures of my XFX GTX 260 216 are. It idles at around 56º, full-load (Crysis) 76º-80º. This is at the stock clocks (621/1350/2000) Do these temperatures sound reasonable, and not harmfull for the core? I'm worried about it running too hot.

[Shadowww]

Little question: Temperature-wise, i would like to know how these temperatures of my XFX GTX 260 216 are. It idles at around 56º, full-load (Crysis) 76º-80º. This is at the stock clocks (621/1350/2000) Do these temperatures sound reasonable, and not harmfull for the core? I'm worried about it running too hot.
Start worrying only if it will start running around 100°.

[Bose321]

Start worrying only if it will start running around 100°.
Yeah. 110-ish should be the max I suppose.

[shiny_red_cobra]

Those temps are fine stiggie.

[G!NhO]

Or you could just raise the fan speed when you play games, which is what i do. :)

[Shadowww]

Or you could just raise the fan speed when you play games, which is what i do. :)
Yeah, you can use RivaTuner for that.

[G!NhO]

Oh ATi drivers have this as a standard option. :shrug:

[Stiggie]

Alright thanks guys. Increasing the Fan speed is possible, but it's actually really loud. It sounds like a 747 starting up next to you when you put it up to 100%. Right now i'll just keep it at auto. Thanks for the info anyway, good to know that it isn't harmfull.
@ Shadowww: The nvidia control panel also has an option for adjusting fanspeeds, but i use the evga precision tool instead.

[G!NhO]

btw what speed do you have it?

i have mine (ati 4850) when i am not gaming on 60% and the temps are around 53 degrees then, when i am gaming i put it on 75% and it gets about 67 degrees.

The sound doesnt bother me, when gaming i dont hear it actually.

[Bose321]

btw what speed do you have it?

i have mine (ati 4850) when i am not gaming on 60% and the temps are around 53 degrees then, when i am gaming i put it on 75% and it gets about 67 degrees.

The sound doesnt bother me, when gaming i dont hear it actually.
Why not on auto? Works fine.
Idle #1=78 degrees with 20% fan
Idle #2=68 degrees with 50% fan
Both run 102~ on full power with 100% fan.
Monday my HAF932 will arrive, I'll hope to get better temps by then. :)

[G!NhO]

With auto its like 82 degrees all the time, i dont like that. :x

[Bose321]

With auto its like 82 degrees all the time, i dont like that. :x
Why does that matter?

[G!NhO]

Doesnt that make it break easier? And does it perform better when its colder or doesn't that matter?

[Bose321]

Doesnt that make it break easier? And does it perform better when its colder or doesn't that matter?
Nah, You won't really notice it. Plus that when it goes higher when it's getting too hot. So if you set it to 75, the chance is higher that it overheats then when you let it automaticly cool.

[G!NhO]

Ye true, well ill set it back to auto then. :p

[Shadowww]

i have mine (ati 4850) when i am not gaming on 60% and the temps are around 53 degrees then, when i am gaming i put it on 75% and it gets about 67 degrees.
ATi - Hot Hardware. Really hot.

Mine 9800GT idles at 40° with auto fan speed (usually ~50%)

[Bose321]

ATi - Hot Hardware. Really hot.

Mine 9800GT idles at 40° with auto fan speed (usually ~50%)
Think about that it depends on the fan + case + airflow + room temperature. :really:

[tristancliffe]

Just had to 'upgrade' my 'puter since it stopped working.

I am a Shuttle addict - I can't stand big tower units. So I've bought myself an SX58H7 Shuttle, with a Core i7 920 CPU. Due to money constraints it's still got my old Ati X850XTPE in it, but next week that is due to be replaced with a 4850 1GB DDR5 Vapor-X card. That should bump up Crysis (demo) from 17fps to something a bit better :)

Am loving the speeds - Ati Traytool is claiming 300fps in Half Life 2 (yes, I still play that occasionally), and I dread to think what LFS would be able to acheive if I didn't Vsync it).

Just want to find something great to play on it graphics-wise. Have ordered Crysis (only installed the demo yesterday, and loving it). Was thinking Far Cry 2 might look nice, and I can't wait for Operation Flashpoint...

But now I am poor, and only have soup and pasta to eat :D

[G!NhO]

Just had to 'upgrade' my 'puter since it stopped working.

I am a Shuttle addict - I can't stand big tower units. So I've bought myself an SX58H7 Shuttle, with a Core i7 920 CPU. Due to money constraints it's still got my old Ati X850XTPE in it, but next week that is due to be replaced with a 4850 1GB DDR5 Vapor-X card. That should bump up Crysis (demo) from 17fps to something a bit better :)

Am loving the speeds - Ati Traytool is claiming 300fps in Half Life 2 (yes, I still play that occasionally), and I dread to think what LFS would be able to acheive if I didn't Vsync it).

Just want to find something great to play on it graphics-wise. Have ordered Crysis (only installed the demo yesterday, and loving it). Was thinking Far Cry 2 might look nice, and I can't wait for Operation Flashpoint...

But now I am poor, and only have soup and pasta to eat :D


Nice :tilt:

btw Far Cry 2 sucks and yeah i cant wait for operation flashpoint either! :D

[Shadowww]

Think about that it depends on the fan + case + airflow + room temperature. :really:
I have stock fan, CRAPPY case which is like 7 years old, almost no airflow (near wall) and ~20-25° in room.

[Bose321]

I have stock fan, CRAPPY case which is like 7 years old, almost no airflow (near wall) and ~20-25° in room.
Good for you.
I've seen loads of HD4850's on air with 40 degrees. So just shutup you stupid fanboy!

[G!NhO]

ATi - Hot Hardware. Really hot.

Mine 9800GT idles at 40° with auto fan speed (usually ~50%)


A friend of mine has a new pc with a 4850 too, its 39 degrees at idle with 0% fan speed.

The clocks of the card are 100 and 150 when its idle, i dont know how he does it mine are always 500 and 750 on idle. :p

So ATi isn't "hotware"...

[Bose321]

A friend of mine has a new pc with a 4850 too, its 39 degrees at idle with 0% fan speed.

The clocks of the card are 100 and 150 when its idle, i dont know how he does it mine are always 500 and 750 on idle. :p

So ATi isn't "hotware"...
You have 2D and 3D clocks. The 2D clocks are 500 and 750 because you don't need higher then that for windows applications or just show a background :)

[G!NhO]

But how does he manage too have the clocks at 100 and 150 then?

btw he has just standard ccc settings.

[Bose321]

But how does he manage too have the clocks at 100 and 150 then?

btw he has just standard ccc settings.
That seems really low, I can't even seem to do that. My lowest underclock is 500/750...

[Stiggie]

btw what speed do you have it?

i have mine (ati 4850) when i am not gaming on 60% and the temps are around 53 degrees then, when i am gaming i put it on 75% and it gets about 67 degrees.

The sound doesnt bother me, when gaming i dont hear it actually.

Auto on idle says the fan runs at 40%, while in-game i think it's at around 50-60%.
I can't really ever hear the fan on auto, while if i set on 70 or 80% manually, it sounds like a vacume. PLUS i don't have to do the effort to keep on manually changing it. That's why i think auto is better. I also think Auto-fan just likes to keep the card at around 80° at full load. Never goes over that temp.
The GTX 260 is made to run hot though. :)

@Bose, my GPU's clock drops to 300 when idle, so there could be some truth in shadow's post.

[c00kie]

Little question: Temperature-wise, i would like to know how these temperatures of my XFX GTX 260 216 are. It idles at around 56º, full-load (Crysis) 76º-80º. This is at the stock clocks (621/1350/2000) Do these temperatures sound reasonable, and not harmfull for the core? I'm worried about it running too hot.

My Sparkle GTX 260 core 216 w/ 1792mb idles at 36-40 degrees at 300/600/100, when the clocks kick in (576/1242/1100) for games it's gotten up to 80 degrees C and the fan runs at 40% all the time as I haven't yet been able to work out how to change the fan profile in rivatuner.

That seems really low, I can't even seem to do that. My lowest underclock is 500/750...

It's probably power phases, though my old 8800GTS 320mb never underclocked itself, it always sat at 570/1242/900 no matter what it was doing, and its idle temps were woeful IMO, with the fan set to auto in rivatuner it idled at about 58 degrees C and wouldn't go lower than 48 degrees, no matter how hard I tried, an 8 degree night didn't make it go lower either, even with all the fans on 100%. It'd go up to 70 degrees easily though, and once I got it up into the 90's.

[Bose321]

Thank you 9.6 drivers!
Crysis benchmarking :
Run #1- DX10 1400x960 AA=16xQ, 64 bit test, Quality: High ~~ Last Average FPS: 47.04
Run #1- DX10 1900x1200 AA=16xQ, 64 bit test, Quality: High ~~ Last Average FPS: 37.01

[Stiggie]

Thank you 9.6 drivers!
Crysis benchmarking :
Run #1- DX10 1400x960 AA=16xQ, 64 bit test, Quality: High ~~ Last Average FPS: 47.04
Run #1- DX10 1900x1200 AA=16xQ, 64 bit test, Quality: High ~~ Last Average FPS: 37.01

Sick.
Is that with both the cards at full load?

[Bose321]

Sick.
Is that with both the cards at full load?
Havn't checked. But I don't think so, because the fans didn't really make alot of noise.

[Bose321]

Why not on auto? Works fine.
Idle #1=78 degrees with 20% fan
Idle #2=68 degrees with 50% fan
Both run 102~ on full power with 100% fan.
Monday my HAF932 will arrive, I'll hope to get better temps by then. :)
Got my new case. It's HUGE. But I am so happy with it. Idle temp of CPU is same. Still have to put it under load. The GFX cards now run 55 degrees with 50% fan. So that's a (whopping) 13 degrees difference! I'll go test and put them under load now. :)

edit-94 degrees with 100% fan after 3 minutes :)

[WSR]

The poll's a little flawed, as I have both an ATI RADEON 9550 and a NVIDIA GeForce 7800 GTX 512 in my computers.

[Electrik Kar]

Am loving the speeds - Ati Traytool is claiming 300fps in Half Life 2 (yes, I still play that occasionally), and I dread to think what LFS would be able to acheive if I didn't Vsync it).

Just want to find something great to play on it graphics-wise. Have ordered Crysis (only installed the demo yesterday, and loving it). Was thinking Far Cry 2 might look nice, and I can't wait for Operation Flashpoint...

Good to hear :thumbsup: I'm also doing some shopping for a new GFX card.. looking for something which may just be able to handle Arma II. I've never played the previous games before and I'd not seen anything about the new Operation Flashpoint. Arma 2 looks astounding, on a whole new scale- but I hear there are some problems as well. I also hear that it eats graphics cards :razz:

TBH I didn't really understand where all the negativity towards Crysis was coming from. I played it after all the hype and hoopla had died down, and found it a very entertaining and immersive experience. You might also like Warhead, but I'd play through the orig first. FarCry 2 has really nice GFX but the gameplay somehow falls short, considering the freedom you are given, your abilities and the reactive environment. I just uninstalled it today as I was fed up with it.

If you've never played any of the Stalker games, I'd recommend taking a look. Graphics probably aren't cutting edge by todays standards, but the atmosphere is incredible. I also recommend reading 'Roadside Picnic' if you can get your hands on it- the book which originally inspired both the movie and the game. It's a great accompaniment to the game as it helps to bring you closer to the mindset of the wise and hardened Stalker, and fleshes out the underlying vibe of 'The Zone' in a way that only good literature can do.




Some other gfx intensive titles you may like..

PT Boats (http://www.gamershell.com/download_21133.shtml) (looks interesting- not out yet. DX10 gfx are nice. There's a benchmark to test your rig in the link)

X3 (http://www.egosoft.com/games/x3/info_en.php) - Terran Conflict (if you have the time and like big ships in space, this might be for you. It's a fairly complex game.. lots to chew on).

Fallout 3 - Great game with TONS of environmental and narrative detail.

err.. iRacing? :scratchch


I don't get to play many games these days but I've just found Plants Vs Zombies (http://www.popcap.com/games/pvz). By no means will this stress your new card, but it's fantastic nonetheless.


Enjoy your pasta ;)

[D1GrandPrix]

I currentyl run following PC:

E6750 C2D @ 2,66Ghz
4GB 667Mhz RAM
XFX ATI HD4890 1GB GDDR5 (VERY fast card, just got it a week ago instead of my 8600GT as this is my main gaming/lfs rig)

Edit:
I run LFS 1280x1024 with all highest, all bars graph-wise to the right, Vsync, AAx16, texture filteringx16 and whatnot..

~70fps
IMO this is kinda bad? Or am I wrong? however greatly playable but I would think a pc as mine would run above 150 fps while this gets to 140 max..

Far Cry 2 @ max settings all aa etc @ steady 70fps too..

[Bose321]

Sounds kinda wrong yeah...

[G!NhO]

LFS is more CPU dependent.

[MijnWraak]

I currentyl run following PC:

E6750 C2D @ 2,66Ghz
4GB 667Mhz RAM
XFX ATI HD4890 1GB GDDR5 (VERY fast card, just got it a week ago instead of my 8600GT as this is my main gaming/lfs rig)

Edit:
I run LFS 1280x1024 with all highest, all bars graph-wise to the right, Vsync, AAx16, texture filteringx16 and whatnot..

~70fps
IMO this is kinda bad? Or am I wrong? however greatly playable but I would think a pc as mine would run above 150 fps while this gets to 140 max..

Far Cry 2 @ max settings all aa etc @ steady 70fps too..
Try using in-game AA and AF. I was getting 50-90 fps with nvidia 32xq AA, but that looked pretty bad - too much AA haha. Switched to in-game 8xaa and 16x AF with default LOD values. Now I get 200-250 FPS, never dips below 150 (v-sync'd to 75 though)

Also try to overclock a bit, maybe 3.2ghz, spend $30 usd on an aftermarket cooler (xigmatek dark knight is good), 3.5-3.6ghz. Will get you a lot of performance.

[Feffe85]

Just got my new card, its a Geforce GTX260/216 896MB.
Did make my computer alot faster in games :D

[G13Haze]

I currentyl run following PC:

E6750 C2D @ 2,66Ghz
4GB 667Mhz RAM
XFX ATI HD4890 1GB GDDR5 (VERY fast card, just got it a week ago instead of my 8600GT as this is my main gaming/lfs rig)

Edit:
I run LFS 1280x1024 with all highest, all bars graph-wise to the right, Vsync, AAx16, texture filteringx16 and whatnot..

~70fps
IMO this is kinda bad? Or am I wrong? however greatly playable but I would think a pc as mine would run above 150 fps while this gets to 140 max..

Far Cry 2 @ max settings all aa etc @ steady 70fps too..

ur cpu is faster than mine so is your gpu
i use 1680x1050 setting the rest same as you (i have hi res pack to) and i get 90-200fps, i would say something is wrong yes.
sure vsync is off?? also in the driver menu, it limmits framerate to your screens fefreshrate.

[MijnWraak]

ur cpu is faster than mine so is your gpu
i use 1680x1050 setting the rest same as you (i have hi res pack to) and i get 90-200fps, i would say something is wrong yes.
sure vsync is off?? also in the driver menu, it limmits framerate to your screens fefreshrate.
I just realized he said "Vsync" among things he had on. So yeah, if you turned off vsync the fps would fly to 270 easily. But keep vsync on, your monitor can only display a certain amount of fps (in your case 70)

[Feffe85]

I just realized he said "Vsync" among things he had on. So yeah, if you turned off vsync the fps would fly to 270 easily. But keep vsync on, your monitor can only display a certain amount of fps (in your case 70)

in the case of fps and v-sync: i would really like to have a 22" monitor that supports more then 60Hz. is there anyone of u guys here that can point me in the right direction of one that supports that? :P i would like to find one in the $250 - $300 range.

OT: as mijnwraak said, turn of the vsync and ull get a higher, tho not noticable, fps.

[MijnWraak]

in the case of fps and v-sync: i would really like to have a 22" monitor that supports more then 60Hz. is there anyone of u guys here that can point me in the right direction of one that supports that? :P i would like to find one in the $250 - $300 range.

OT: as mijnwraak said, turn of the vsync and ull get a higher, tho not noticable, fps.
There are a few 120hz monitors out for the Nvidia 3d glasses. Has a pretty large price premium, however.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824001311&nm_mc=OTC-Froogle&cm_mmc=OTC-Froogle-_-Monitors+-+LCD+Flat+Panel-_-SAMSUNG-_-24001311
$400 for samsung, and only 22" I could find.

[hazaky]

I moved from nVidia to ATI now. Count my vote as ATI now, ive already voted for nVidia :D

[Shadowww]

I moved from nVidia to ATI now.You are dumb.

[Bose321]

I moved from nVidia to ATI now. Count my vote as ATI now, ive already voted for nVidia :D

You are dumb.

He switched for a reason. :thumb: Because ATi is better: D

[Shadowww]

He switched for a reason. :thumb: Because ATi is better: DIf it would be better, ATI would had more votes in this thread.

[Bose321]

Just because more people got a product, doesn't mean it's better.

[Electrik Kar]

I've had good cards from both ATI and nVidia. I've put off getting a new card for now but I'd almost decided on a Geforce GTX 275, mainly because the card was quieter than the ATI equivalent.

[Bose321]

Then get one with a good fan.

[hazaky]

Well, im not dumb i think. Taking it as i moved from nVidia 8600GT to ATI HD4870 ... its a good upgrade and im really happy with it since im still nVidia fanboy and i prefer nvidia. Also, this is my very first ATI card - i was thinking that it really sucks and ive gotta deal with hilariously huge number of problems but no ... the card works like charm and i havnt had any compability issues yet, except some games what have been installed with nVidia PhysX settings and stuff, AGEIA PhysX didnt help tho. Im talking about Mirrors Edge and there are few more games. Shadowww, i was like u before - that "ATI sucks" and stuff, but now when im pretty proud owner of one HD4870 then i can say people who say it sucks are stupid. Its just the way it is, my ATI card performs so well that im just so amazed. Before i had to play GTA IV with crappy lowest settings and 800x600 to play it almost on realtime fps. Now i can cranck everything on max and 1920x1080 resolution and bang, huge fps and even better gameplay.

[Shadowww]

Before i had to play GTA IV with crappy lowest settings and 800x600 to play it almost on realtime fps. Now i can cranck everything on max and 1920x1080 resolution and bang, huge fps and even better gameplay.Nice job comparing $50 card of 2006 to $200 card of 2008.

[Bose321]

Nice job comparing $50 card of 2006 to $200 card of 2008.
If I'd gave you a 4850 or 4870, you'd say Nvidia sucks, it's just that you never tried to switch, and don't know anything about it, just aslong it's nv, its good in your eyes.

[Shadowww]

If I'd gave you a 4850 or 4870, you'd say Nvidia sucksIf I'd gave you a GTX 295, you'd say ATI sucks

</thread>

P.S.: And no, I won't, until they will fix linux64 driver.

[Bose321]

If I'd gave you a GTX 295, you'd say ATI sucks

</thread>

P.S.: And no, I won't, until they will fix linux64 driver.
I still stay at my opinion, because I have a nvidia card in my laptop and I think the drivers and the control center are crap.

[c00kie]

Try using in-game AA and AF. I was getting 50-90 fps with nvidia 32xq AA, but that looked pretty bad - too much AA haha. Switched to in-game 8xaa and 16x AF with default LOD values. Now I get 200-250 FPS, never dips below 150 (v-sync'd to 75 though)

How'd you manage 32xAA? :really:
nVidia CP only shows 16xQ AA and LFS only goes up to 16...

[Bose321]

I though that only was possible with CrossFireX :shrug:

[BastianB]

got a ati 4850 here and i have to say im pretty pleased with it :shrug:

[Shadowww]

I though that only was possible with CrossFireX :shrug:You can have up to 64xAA with SLI.

[Stiggie]

Ohh i love checking back to this thread, to see Bose and Shadoww.. still fighting about two pieces of hardware.

Quite hilarious on one side, but quite sad on the other.

[Bose321]

You can have up to 64xAA with SLI.
Lies.

Ohh i love checking back to this thread, to see Bose and Shadoww.. still fighting about two pieces of hardware.

Quite hilarious on one side, but quite sad on the other.
I'm just trying to tell Shadowww nvidia isn't the best thing there is, he just is an ignorant noob.

[Marco1]

Nvidia GTX 295 runs in SLI
@ MSI board whit Intel i7 :thumb:
and only a 80gh HD :D
it was expensiv ...

why cpus kant speed up the internet xD got only a 16000 DSL

[Bose321]

Good to know.

[Stiggie]

He just is an ignorant noob.

Yeah, that's why you shouldn't bother talking to him, and just ignore it. :) (No offense Shadowww)

As for me, i'm not a fan of anything, my way of thinking is: Buy whatever suits you.
I bought an nvidia card because that was the easiest way for me to go at the time, i would have to order the ATI card i was after, but i didn't have the patience.

[Shadowww]

Lies.Truth. RTFM before speaking kthx.

[Bose321]

I just have. Quad SLi gives a maximum of 32x AA.

[Shadowww]

Well, if you use cards with 16xAA max, then it gives you 64xAA.

[Bose321]

It doesn't work like that...

[Shadowww]

Well, actually it does.

[Bose321]

Bleh, I'm done talking to you, stupid ignorant ****.

[Shadowww]

Bleh, I'm done talking to you, stupid ignorant ****.Get your facts right nub.

[hazaky]

Get your facts right nub.
I cant find any fact related to that. Tell us, what is the fact. Or something, didnt read all the latest posts.

Anyways, your text is just so fanboy stylish. Its annoyng and makes me angry (maybe others too). When u tell something, like that AA thing - tell us, why is it like that. Cmon m8.

[Shadowww]

When u tell something, like that AA thing - tell us, why is it like that.So I guess I have to explain where every electron moves during 64 AA samples with quad-SLi setup?

[hazaky]

So I guess I have to explain where every electron moves during 64 AA samples with quad-SLi setup?
Well yea, something like this. What would explain your "supersmart" txt ...

[Shadowww]

Well yea, something like this. What would explain your "supersmart" txt ...Why would I explain obvious fact?

[hazaky]

Why would I explain obvious fact?
I dont know :x

[Shadowww]

I dont know :xI dont know aswell :x

[hazaky]

I dont know aswell :x
Mwhah, anyways. Lets drop that topic. In fact its everyones opinions, who likes ATi and nVidia and stuff. I prefer both of them, before i was just like u Shadowww, but now when i got myself an ATI card. I cant say that ATI sucks, i really cant.

[Velociround]

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/1811/sliaaip2.png

nVidia 4-way-SLI
4 Graphics card connected together in SLI. Each of them provides 16xQ antialiasing. You end up with AA 64xQ.

/thread

[Bose321]

How useless.

[Velociround]

Lies.

I just have. Quad SLi gives a maximum of 32x AA.

It doesn't work like that...

How useless.

:scratchch

It's still true. And it does work like that. And it is AA 64xQ. And ATi doesn't have it. :razz: :D

[Bose321]

ATi has something better. :)

And 64x is useless anyways.

[MijnWraak]

How'd you manage 32xAA? :really:
nVidia CP only shows 16xQ AA and LFS only goes up to 16...
Forget the name of the software now, but its in the guide for making LFS look better, just force more AA.

N something...

edit: nhancer!

[aless83]

i've got a 9800GT which has got a mind of it's own :razz:
Sometimes it goes like hell (fallout 3 everything on with 1680x1050) and sometimes it gets stuck at LFS....:schwitz:

[hazaky]

i've got a 9800GT which has got a mind of it's own :razz:
Sometimes it goes like hell (fallout 3 everything on with 1680x1050) and sometimes it gets stuck at LFS....:schwitz:
Everything on? I assume theyr not max tho

If it gets stuck, it may not be gfx problem. Check ur other hardware or reinstall lfs.

[Velociround]

You know what... I've heard some people saying the 9800GX2 is hot... well, I guess I have to agree with them. :)

http://staticgm.i4u.com/gallery/NVIDIA-Video-Card-Spokesmodel-Katarina/Katarina_001.jpg
http://staticgm.i4u.com/gallery/NVIDIA-Video-Card-Spokesmodel-Katarina/Katarina_003.jpg
http://staticgm.i4u.com/gallery/NVIDIA-Video-Card-Spokesmodel-Katarina/Katarina_004.jpg
http://staticgm.i4u.com/gallery/NVIDIA-Video-Card-Spokesmodel-Katarina/Katarina_005.jpg
http://staticgm.i4u.com/gallery/NVIDIA-Video-Card-Spokesmodel-Katarina/Katarina_010.jpg
http://staticgm.i4u.com/gallery/NVIDIA-Video-Card-Spokesmodel-Katarina/Katarina_012.jpg
http://staticgm.i4u.com/gallery/NVIDIA-Video-Card-Spokesmodel-Katarina/Katarina_013.jpg
http://staticgm.i4u.com/gallery/NVIDIA-Video-Card-Spokesmodel-Katarina/Katarina_014.jpg

[Bose321]

girl yes = things in her hands etc = no

[hazaky]

You know what... I've heard some people saying the 9800GX2 is hot... well, I guess I have to agree with them. :)Well, thats not sexy at all because a hot lady is holding a fckin geek object in her hands. U know what i mean? Like, those pics are only hot for nerds/gamers/geeks and so on. Normal ppl only like the girl and not card wich makes it not perfect picture. :D

girl yes = things in her hands etc = no
+1 ...

[sfkilla]

My gpu history:

- Matrox Millenium II 2MB
- Geforce 2 MX
- Geforce 2 GTS
- Geforce 3 TI 200 64M
- ATI Radeon 7500 64M
- Geforce 4 MX 460 64M
- ATI Radeon 9600 Pro 256M (still use that one)
- Geforce 6600GT 128M
- ATI Radeon HD2900 XT 512M

My Present:

- ATI Radeon HD4890 1GB

[Shadowww]

girl yes = things in her hands etc = noYes, this card indeed IS hot after playing GTA IV 24 hours non-stop.

[Be2K]

i bought the GX2 this year... but i sold it after a month on ebay.. Its a crapy Graphiccard.. the two GPUs wich are working over SLI "onboard" are to slow for High resolution..

so a List of my Cards :
...First PC 1996~ dont know any more...

ATI 9600 265MB (2002)
ATI x1900 512MB (2006)
---------------------------
nVidia 9600 GT 512MB (2007-08)
nVidia 9800 GX2 2x512Mb (2008-09)
nVidia 280 GTX 1GB (since 03.2009.....)

[Stiggie]

I was browsing around when i found this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FT1hFcYbE7Q
I didn't even think that was possible.

Here you go Shadowww, something for you to fap on. :thumbsup:

[Ripley]

I just upgraded from a Sapphire X1950XTX 512Mb to a Sapphire HD4890 Vapor-X 1Gb.

[Shadowww]

I was browsing around when i found this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FT1hFcYbE7Q
I didn't even think that was possible.

Here you go Shadowww, something for you to fap on. :thumbsup:HOLY SHI- :Looking_a
Thanks for updating my porn collection.

[JasonJ]

I just upgraded from an MSI N9600GT 512MB to a Sapphire Radeon HD4890 OC 1GB

[spampie]

Ati 4770

saddly it is bottle necked by my processer and i dont have the money to upgrade as i`d need a new mobo and power supply as well

[Luke.S]

Palit GTS 250 1gb Green edition.

I am never having a 9800gt or a club3d card again

[Shadowww]

Palit GTS 250 1gb Green edition.

I am never having a 9800gt or a club3d card again
Club 3D are good when they work.

[hazaky]

Club 3D are good when they work.
Mine does, more than good lol.

[Luke.S]

The old 9800gt i had which was club3d was good WHEN it worked.