Drifting .. [Archive] - Live for Speed

DudesGeof

6th January 2006, 06:12

I am having a seriously REALLY bad time with drifting, no matter how hard I try I just cannot get it, I spent a few hours just last night trying to drift.. I am able to some what drift in the FXO and am quite comfortable with it but the setup just seemed to pull the car out front end first really easily, I don't know if that's just a normal characteristic of the car or if it's my setup and/or driving.

Just curious then if anyone had a drift setup for an FXO primarily for a racing wheel.. After trying numerous times with the XR GT's (both ones) I just absolutely cannot drift with either of them.. I would really like to learn how to drift and do it well and I wouldn't be making this post otherwise, or spending as much time as I have on it as well.

Thanks >.>:schwitz:

deggis

6th January 2006, 06:25

Drifting is stupid. Don't learn to drift.

Qvarnis

6th January 2006, 07:19

If you are interested in drifting you should buy or download illegally Keiichi Tsuchiyas Drift Bible. Believe it or not, but I learnt how to drift with xrt(?) after I watched it. :thumb: Just keep on practising, I think you should start with that non turbo xrt(?)

Ps. I`m not good with those car names :D

hrtburnout

6th January 2006, 09:48

Drifting is stupid. Don't learn to drift.
WTF? If you don't like to drift, don't say it like that Deggis :pillepall

marsden1002

6th January 2006, 09:55

Hi,

Yes i would try to learn how to drift. I can drift all day long on the Autocross car park, but when i come to a track, i cant seam to get the steering right, i seam to either spin around, or go to slow around the corner.

ajp71

6th January 2006, 10:00

Drifting is stupid. Don't learn to drift.

Really this is just as annoying as when the occasional ricer comes and makes threads here such as 'i WaNT lOAdZ oF RudE BoY SpeaKErs' just leave them alone and let them drift if they want to. Not saying I like it especially, just like oval racing, but that doesn't mean I go and SPAM an oval racing forum :shrug:

shim

6th January 2006, 11:58

the hard part of drifting is knowing when to start countersteering and learning when it will catch again after sliding the rear about.. there are heaps of drifters @ http://www.lfs-torque.net/

with most of the ppl there, if they see you in a server, they will be happy to teach you how to drift.. all ya gotta do is ask :)

also join the drift servers and ask about for tips, it dun matter if its the demo or S2, there are heaps of drift servers about

Lautsprecher[NOR]

6th January 2006, 12:16

I am able to some what drift in the FXO and am quite comfortable with it but the setup just seemed to pull the car out front end first really easily, I don't know if that's just a normal characteristic of the car or if it's my setup and/or driving.It's a FWD, they're not supposed to drift :P

Gunn

6th January 2006, 12:35

']It's a FWD, they're not supposed to drift :PYep, and this is why he can't seem to get it together. Try the XRT, FZ50, RB4 or LX cars. RWD highly recommended as the choice for sideways action. Just forget the formula and GTR cars, their smaller steering range makes effective counter-steering something of a miracle. Also, many drifters seem to favour road normal tyres on the rear, for longevity I assume.

Gunn

6th January 2006, 13:09

Maybe he's using a DFP with the full rotation range enabled, that would make it hard to drift.Not with some practice and the right setup, according to several drifters who use this gear. Maybe setup is the next hurdle?

DownShift

6th January 2006, 13:35

here if your useing a DFP (i do i lkove it for drift now that im used to it) try this setup it's a really good drift setup some one gave me online. i dont see why it woodnt work with out a DFP so even if you dont have one give it a try :thumb:

DudesGeof

6th January 2006, 15:10

']It's a FWD, they're not supposed to drift :P

:| I did not know that, and I love that car .. oh well.

Thanks for that setup, I am getting the drift bible which someone elsewhere recommended. I have tried joining a couple drift servers which didn't turn out too well because the people were somewhat nubs.. I have an MS Sidewinder Racing Precision Pro but I'll try that setup anyways.. Thanks for all this awesome response, wasn't sure what to expect here :D

as to what clownpaint said I agree with what he said about broadening skills, I'm not a very great driver in lfs to start but I still love the game, and having drifting as one of those things I can do would be nice to have.

Matt_Driver

6th January 2006, 16:56

i have a few helpful pointers that really improved my drifting ability, use higher gears than normal and never floor it on a corner unless you're already at full opposite lock, even then it can be difficult to recover.
use small bursts of half throttle and be in the gear u wanna be in before you reach the start of corner.

ky national reverse is a favourite of mine and was the track i learnt on.
has great corners for drifting,

oh yeah, use reverse variants of tracks for drifting due to the arrangement of corners from fast to slow.

i hope i've helped, may you drift in style and finesse(on servers labelled as drift only ;) )

edit: heres a replay of a few laps so you can observe how i drift...

DudesGeof

6th January 2006, 17:56

I usually try using second gear and i start at about 50-60mph through a corner and then i feather it through a corner.. Usually I overcorrect after the corner to get the car back on track but before that sometimes i tap the hand brake and give it some more gas to get through the corner and get the car going around back but it either goes too much or it just doesnt go at all which results in me trying to press down a bit more on the gas and turning the wheel a bit more into the corner :(

Vendetta

6th January 2006, 18:25

First of all, do NOT use the FXO to drift. I highly reccomend the XR GT Turbo. First of all, you need to learn to countersteer. When your used to racing, if you drift you countersteer more than you should. Once you initiate the drift, try to keep the degree of angle your wheels are at the same. Slight adjusments mid drift help alot. Im not home right now, but i will be in an hour or so. Once im home, ill make a replay for you of the different kinds of initiations for drifting, and just an example lap. Im not the best drifter, but it will give you a sense of what to do.

DudesGeof

6th January 2006, 19:21

I wouldn't mind actually going and doing some multiplayer with anyone that is willing to help.. last night I tried drifting with the xr gt turbo for a bit, and this morning i switched between the xr gt and the xr gt turbo and kinda stuck with the xr gt after finding some decent setups. I'm still counter steering way tooooo much but am trying to stop that. Some corners I still have no clue when I should initiate the drift or the best way to initiate the drift, I've gone between just turning into the corner and feathering on the gas or using the clutch lightly or tapping the hand brake once or twice before going into a corner .. I downloaded a few setups from lfs torque and i got the xr gt turbo soft setup and it's not that bad, I just have been trying to tweak it a bit more to my liking, but as I said it's not that bad, and I think I may stick with it for learning

FallenReaper

6th January 2006, 21:01

As Vendetta pointed out, counter steering is a big part in drifting. If you are using a DFP, try lessening the force feedback and actually see if you can toss the wheel around more. Also as some people in this thread pointed out too, use the XRT because of its rear wheel drive and its power, but when using the XRT you must be careful with throttle. XRT takes more throttle control than RB4 and such, and don't try drifting FWD. Front wheel drive cars are pretty dififcult to get correctly. Go into a few servers and ask for help and watch replays and actual drifting videos of in car veiws to see some of the foot work and try to adjust some of their techniques into the game. Surprisingly it's sometimes helpful. For the most part, the major thing about the XRT is the throttle control and countersteering actions. Flooring the XRT through drifts if your not that experienced will just spin you out, and if you're quite new to the DFP if you have one, it'll take a while to get used to the high steering angles and such. Good luck.

DudesGeof

6th January 2006, 21:29

xapexcivicx

7th January 2006, 02:57

:| I did not know that, and I love that car .. oh well.

Thanks for that setup, I am getting the drift bible which someone elsewhere recommended. I have tried joining a couple drift servers which didn't turn out too well because the people were somewhat nubs.. I have an MS Sidewinder Racing Precision Pro but I'll try that setup anyways.. Thanks for all this awesome response, wasn't sure what to expect here :D

as to what clownpaint said I agree with what he said about broadening skills, I'm not a very great driver in lfs to start but I still love the game, and having drifting as one of those things I can do would be nice to have.
If you want to wait out a little bit, ADA is holding a drift competition, and I will be hosting all of the replays on my webspace for people to download. They will be replays of their runs. The best of the best. I'll let you know when they are up.

Vendetta

7th January 2006, 03:34

I have a Microsoft SideWinder Racing Precision Pro as I mentioned earlier.. I also think I will upload a video of my drifting that I took on blackwood going reversed, nothing special of course.. and yes i do know that counter steering is VERY difficult to get use to with drifting, I seem to always over counter steer unless I really think about NOT doing it..

I wasn't really a fan of that Fern Bay track when I did multiplayer and Vendetta was there :\\

Edit - Bit of an edit here, just uploading my latest [drifting] driving clip

Fern Bay is the easiest track to drift IMO. My favorite is South City, but becuase theirs walls on each side, the track will be alot harder to drift. I remember the first time i got my wheel, and i was drifting south city, i would bump everywhere :D

shim

7th January 2006, 04:01

try this set out, tis wha i use for manji and normal drifting..

i did a test run with the set you are using and i almost killed myself.. that was the first drift set ive tryed that i couldnt drift with.. :P

also i noticed you where very shy with the throttle, try using a little more to get the car sliding a bit.. :)

xapexcivicx

7th January 2006, 04:06

i did a test run with the set you are using and i almost killed myself..
...In LFS?:shrug:

shim

7th January 2006, 04:44

yah, that set scared me that badly.. :P

Qvarnis

7th January 2006, 15:43

Yeah, it`s funny how just a skin can make such a effect on driving style, if I use RS*R skin my drifting goes to pile of poo, when I use my own HKS skin it`s way easier. But dunno what it makes :shrug:

DudesGeof

7th January 2006, 16:28

hey shim, thanks for the set.. I love it already.. seemed a lot more like it fit my driving style :nod:

i've only done one lap trying it on blackwood, here it is :O .. the car felt a lot more controllable

Greboth

11th January 2006, 20:42

Drifting is a hard one to each, as its like instict, u no how u threw the car into the corner u no how u drift and wen to power and wen to counter steer more. Eg i learned to drift on blackwood reverse as i learnt as demo racer, but wen i started i was very light on thottle now i can pretty much hold full throttle thru most of the corners. Theres many ways to start a drift, a particular good one is to tap brakes (to shift weight to front) turn in and plant ur foot, u may find u spin at first, but then ull notice ull get better and u can hold the drift longer. Otherways r tappin the clutch (clutch kicking), this cause the rear wheels to suddenly spin reducin ur rear wheel traction. Classic is handbrake (E-brake) but u loose too much speed doing that i found. Others is changing down gear, which causes ur car to be traveling fast and the changing down slows ur rear wheels down (effectivly partially braking only our rear wheels) causes loss of traction. The method i now use is to drive to the out side of the corner and then sharply turn in which with the right set up will cause u to start to slide. I cant offhand think of any more ways, but i no drifters on lfs who use one or more of them for drifing.
Really the best thing to learn to drift is a good set up and practice. I think the best track is blackwood reverse and open flowing corners, not tight like other courses are sumtimes. Like i simply throw the car about as i said, but if i find im straightening up mid corner a quick press of handbrake increases angle again, a clutch kick wuld also do the same.
ive posted my set up see if thats any good.

p.s a good way to learn to counter steer i found is try to roughly aim ur front wheels to at where u wanna go, then wen wanna straighten up same thing, so it almost looks like wheels never change more car swings round to follow front wheels, its hard to xplain but i hope all this has been some help

Greboth

11th January 2006, 21:05

hey another post me just hunted these out. One is from wen i first started to learn drifing, the second is a very recent one. I never looked up drift bible etc, i just practied practised yh u no the rest. neway, thought id show wat a differnce a month or two practice can do:)

GTR_NUT

3rd February 2006, 17:34

Driftin some poeple can do it straight away like me.

if you know the basics. i startd drifting cause properly.

first i learnt how to power slide out of a corner and control the exit thats the hard part i find. then i just made a set that tunes into my needs having gear ratios etc. after that its just practis once you get the hang of it. join up with other drifters online. i wud suggest this as a must drift forums are probly the freindlyest ones out there. as for fxo not good idea to drift a fwd car thats why the fron snacthes.

eventualy move on to twin drifting like me. :D

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/6333/3rfddxv5rj.jpg

Hatemaker

4th February 2006, 00:45

I've been racing since before the full S1 was out, and started drifting then as well. I mostly use the XR GT Turbo, but the FZ50 is a GREAT car to use, even when using the standard road setup. Use the road_normal tires because they'll last you longer, and they'll allow the back end to slip out a bit more through the turn. Make sure you keep road_super's on the front though so it makes it easier to maintain control through the drift. If you play with the gears, differential, and center differential controller(75% rear, 25% front torque-split), you can make a pretty decent drift starter car without messing with the suspension.

Greboth

4th February 2006, 12:09

I used to drive with amouse, untill bout 6 days ago i didnt have a wheel, but i do now. I posted the 2 replays earlier with me drifitn with the mouse and i can drift very wel with the mouse, the power is a bit of a problem but ive got used to it.
Anyway all my point is - now that i have got a wheel i cant drift for S*#t mainly cause i cant counter steer as fast as is need and now i cant seem to counter steer correctly as cometimes i dont enough and other times too much.
But i no i one thing - i need to practice, drifting does seem to come naturally to some people and other have to practice loads, but in the end pracice is needed whatever.

Hatemaker

5th February 2006, 04:01

Try turning the Force Feedback on your wheel up, if it has it. You'll be able to feel the wheel get into a spot in which it will want to not turn farther on it's own, and not turn less on it's own... kind of a "sweet spot". In this spot, the car will stay true to the line you're in, and make it easier to drift. Your only worries will be if you apply to much handbrake at the bigginning of the drift, or too much gas twords the middle/end, and the point at which the "spot" is reached is too far out of your wheel's turning radius... Your car will go around. If you are hitting the spot, and drifting nicely, you can also turn the wheel farther to pull out of it early (like if someone is in the track, spun about), or if you turn the wheel less, you'll make yourself a higher angle of drift, but possibly move the "spot" out of your wheel's radius.

(Sorry if this doesn't make much sense, I tried to put it into words as best as I could.)

Greboth

5th February 2006, 13:14

Hatemaker

7th February 2006, 13:37

Yeah, it takes some practice, and trust me, I came from driving with a mouse as well, but that was like a year ago. When straightening out though, the whell (depending on how high the FF is) will kind of want to straighten a little bit, but tou'll still have to do most of the work yourself. No worries though, it shouldn't be hard to pull out of it (and I seriously doubt you're a 5 year old little girl), you should be able to manage quite easily.

xapexcivicx

8th February 2006, 01:42

Drifting isn't very easy. It can't be described on paper, only demonstrated. But everything Hatemaker has said is correct. When centering your car to go straight on the track, your wheel cannot help you out there. If you continue to get the so called "Hot spot" of a wheel/car, the car will start to fishtail, A.K.A. Manji down the road. The only way to center is to counter the FF by slowly returning the wheel to center at the end of the turn. To link turns simply oversteer in the opposite direction.

Oh, and practice practice practice practice.

-DrftMstr-

8th February 2006, 02:03

it's always easy to say it... describing the techniques and stuff but actually using the theory on the track is the hard part. It will come with time, ppl.

edit: i suggest getting started with the RB4

yes, to all the ones that know me, i'm the 4WD hardcore dude

Hatemaker

8th February 2006, 02:47

Oh yes, so am I. I'm only going to buy a AWD car for my street car, allthough, I like to do the drift comps IRL, and for that I have bought a Silvia S15 from Japan. 425hp, and 410lb/ft torque... gets the job done. I have no gimp ricer body kits on it, it's stock looking, except for the rims, because I got some good looking Ray's on it, and I usually run Kumho tires. I'm still saving for the set of Tein's that I want to buy for it.

Oh, and before I forget, If you find yourself having trouble using the RB4 at first, PM me, and I'll give you a good beginner's setup for it. I have other drift setups for it, depending on the track, but this beginners one is pretty good for all courses.

espen_j

11th February 2006, 15:42

I started drifting when i downloaded the demo right after new years eve
(here's a vid: http://home.no/bomex/mhm.vmw ). i havent driven much, and drifting came naturally, all you have to do on the XR Turbo, is 60/50 clutchdiff and Road_Normal tires. it works for me;)

50-3

13th February 2006, 02:57

i would just like to say ROFLMFAOOL!!!! drifting is done how ever you want i can drift a XFG by clutching and steering quick into a corner. or FO8 just quickly let off the gas and gun it till sideways and just aplly a little gas till through the corner. XRT just constanly gun it keeping the rear out through the strait and corners. or just use the lift-off technique from the driftbible for the FZR. learn to use difrennt thechniques for difrent car's and sets. it all about practice put in the hours and you will get the reward

newdriver1

22nd February 2006, 20:46

HI all,
I have been reading posts here and still couldn't find out the answers to the following questions. I would appreciate any pointers:

- I was able to drift around a corner but most of the time I was out of control. When I was drifting sideways on a turn and found that I was going to drift out of the road and to the gravel, how do I stop the drifting so that I can stay on the road?

- Let's say you are flat out on top gear and coming up to a 90 degree rigth turn. When you start drifting, what gear will you be? And what gear are you going to keep during the whole drift?

- During drifting in the middle of a corner, how do you correct the direction of the drifting? Just use the steering? What's the effect of applying throttle versus releasing throttle during the drift?

- I saw some replays posted here that somebody can make the car sideway (almost 90 degree to the road) a long way before the turn. How do you do that?

- what's a common differential power/coast setup? 60/30? Is the "coast" side supposed to be less than the "power" side? Do you want lots of lock on the power side for drifting?

Thank you.

RevMonkey

22nd February 2006, 21:27

i'll bite.

- you can try to direct your way out of a drift by easing up on the throttle, which sometimes will allow your tires to regain grip. also, depending on your stage in the drift, steering into the slide then centering *can* pull you out of the drift.

- this really depends. back in S1, i would never drift in any gear except for 3rd, because its powerband was smack in the middle of what i was comfortable in. but with my current gearing in my FZ5, i drift more in 2nd. it's all in personal comfort levels. when i drift, i maintain high revs all through the gear i initiated in, i don't shift in a drift.

- you can correct the direction of the drift by using a combination of throttle and steering. releasing throttle abruptly during a drift *can* cause you to spin, because of the sudden weight shift off the rear wheels and to the front. i correct my angle mainly using steering though, because i use a mouse and throttle control is more or less non-existant. i can use the abrupt throttle cut to my advantage though. learning to clutch-kick is very advantageous in this scenario.

- basically it's a setup issue. depending on the car, it can be easier or harder. for example, the FZ5 (which you can't drive) is much harder to flick into a 90* drift because of its rear-engined arrangement. in the XRT, basically it takes quick reactions with the steering wheel and some throttle control, and full lock usually.

- can't answer this one, everyone has their own taste.

hope this helps ;)

xapexcivicx

22nd February 2006, 21:29

- I was able to drift around a corner but most of the time I was out of control. When I was drifting sideways on a turn and found that I was going to drift out of the road and to the gravel, how do I stop the drifting so that I can stay on the road?
Well, perhaps the problem you are having is that you are keeping throttle 3/4 or even full then entire turn. The thing to control the drift is to feather (Tap) the throttle, and if you need more angle, then perhaps increase the throttle, or even hit the brakes a little bit. If that didn't help, then post here again with a replay, and you'll get the answer you need :)

- Let's say you are flat out on top gear and coming up to a 90 degree rigth turn. When you start drifting, what gear will you be? And what gear are you going to keep during the whole drift?
That really depends on the turn. For FE Black Rev, right after the pits that don't work when you are about to go onto the bridge, I usually feint into 4th gear, then take the first S turn in about 3rd or second, then usually hit it into first at the actual 90 degree turn so I can whip my car around, then usually come out of that section in second gear.

- During drifting in the middle of a corner, how do you correct the direction of the drifting? Just use the steering? What's the effect of applying throttle versus releasing throttle during the drift?
Applying throttle will increase your angle, I.E. if you are going way too wide, hit the throttle down and increase your angle. When you let go of the throttle, it will keep the designated angle, and in turn make your drift more controllable. The reason for feathering the throttle would be to balance out the two.

- I saw some replays posted here that somebody can make the car sideway (almost 90 degree to the road) a long way before the turn. How do you do that?
Practice and skill my friend. Usually Feint drifting a long ways before the turn would help.

- what's a common differential power/coast setup? 60/30? Is the "coast" side supposed to be less than the "power" side? Do you want lots of lock on the power side for drifting?
That depends on your own preferance. I've never really been good at setups, but I'm sure somebody else can answer that question for you :)

Hope this helped:thumb: Post back with your progress/a replay.:)

newdriver1

22nd February 2006, 21:59

Thank you so much for your explanation. It's clearer now :-)

- On Blackwood track, there is a long straight coming to a 90 degree right hand turn. What gear do you use while drifting in this corner?

- you said to apply throttle "to increase angle". Then will "release throttle" also "decrease angle"? (as the rear tires will regain traction?)

THanks again.

RevMonkey

22nd February 2006, 22:51

- assuming going blackwood forwards, i usually decelerate quite a bit if i'm trying to drift nice, ususally take it in 3rd gear.

- not necesarily. if you decrease throttle abruptly, then the weight will shift from the rear to the front, thus unloading the rear wheels. this can do one of two things: make you spin, or help you regain traction. but usually you really only regain traction if you are going slower. no this normally won't decrease your angle alone, but throughout a drift it can. kinda hard for me to explain :|

newdriver1

22nd February 2006, 23:03

- assuming going blackwood forwards, i usually decelerate quite a bit if i'm trying to drift nice, ususally take it in 3rd gear.

:|

Yes, it was BlackWood forward. Then do you carry 3rd gear all the way thru then accelerate in 3rd gear for the next right hand corner again?
Thanks!

StanleyCarter

22nd February 2006, 23:22

one more tip though, there's this thing called the E-brake.

It can be a great tool in drifting, you can use it to initiate the drift, slow down your drift, extend your drift, and even adjust your drifting angles with it.

But don't rely on it too much either, it'll only hinder the progress of your overall skills.

RevMonkey

23rd February 2006, 01:52

Yes, it was BlackWood forward. Then do you carry 3rd gear all the way thru then accelerate in 3rd gear for the next right hand corner again?
Thanks!
i usually keep my revs high up near the redline, and once i pull out of the drift (if i decide not to link it) then i shift up to 4th for a quick stint. this also sets me up for using the shift lock technique, which allows me to downshift back to third, initiate a drift, and keep my revs up all in one go.

Sil.Eighty.Style

23rd February 2006, 04:07

i usually like a high power value on the lsd, like 65-70% or so, so torque is transferred to both drive wheels.
i like a low coast value because when its higher, the car tends to understeer on entry...i have it around 15-20%

-DrftMstr-

23rd February 2006, 05:07

GT4Fan

23rd February 2006, 06:13

All I can say is that there is a very different direction too, to learn how to drift.

Just weight shift alot and get the feel of it. You can then swing the cars into a drift and you will have amazing control over the car afterwards.
Using grippier tyres up front makes the snap back harder to control. So if you have trouble at the exits or when linking corners, it's because you use different tyres.

I got a DFP and learned how to drift in Gran Turismo 4. And now, a year later, I learned drifting in LFS in 2 days. I dont know if it's the wheel or the GT4 experience.
GT4 is a different game from LFS so I guess the wheel is alot of an advantage.
The DFP is one of the best wheels out there with very good Force Feedback and perhaps thats why it makes it so easy for me. Get a wheel people:P:)

Greboth

23rd February 2006, 08:28

you also link the S-turn to next one (right before the long straight) by either using shift lock but i like using that little clutch kick technique, slow and speed ups the roatational speed of your rear tires, reducing even more the friction (a.k.a grip)

I take it you mean blackwood reversed (as said S turn to nextone before long straight) If im right you dont need to clutch kick, I got down the hill in 3rd feitn drift at the 50m board flick down to 2nd drift the S turns. THen coming out the second corner of the S if you straighten the wheel earlier than you should you can continue the drift onto the straight and then its jsut counter steering to flick back the other way than back again for that last corner, Hope that makes sense. If it doesnt ill find a reply but im at uni now so cant post one.

Also if you want to learn to drift check this thread out http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=5270

StanleyCarter

23rd February 2006, 09:55

THen coming out the second corner of the S if you straighten the wheel earlier than you should you can continue the drift onto the straight and then its jsut counter steering to flick back the other way than back again for that last corner, Hope that makes sense.

there's nothing wrong with your approach, but what DrftMstr is referring would be linking the drift from the second corner TO the last hairpin corner. Basically in one whole drift, if you're using the XRT there, clutch kick or E-brake may be applied depends on the situation. :)

xapexcivicx

23rd February 2006, 16:36

I got a DFP and learned how to drift in Gran Turismo 4. And now, a year later, I learned drifting in LFS in 2 days. I dont know if it's the wheel or the GT4 experience.
GT4 is a different game from LFS so I guess the wheel is alot of an advantage.
The DFP is one of the best wheels out there with very good Force Feedback and perhaps thats why it makes it so easy for me. Get a wheel people:P:)
I think it's just GT4. With the proper setup drifting is quite easy in the game. I actually was linking turns within a few hours :)

newdriver1

23rd February 2006, 17:05

Thank you all for the help and I appreciate them all.

I do have a DFP with a set of ECCI pedals plugged in to it. Funny thing is that whenever I run LFS, my throttle pedal would go erratic after a few rounds on the track (when I stepped on the throttle pedal, the throttle either didn't move or jumped around. Checked using Dxtweak and I had to unplug the USB cable and plug it back in to reset. The same thing came back after a few rounds again). Do you guys have this problem with DFP? I also played RBR, GTR and FS2004 with the same pedals but I never had any problem with other sims, only with LFS. Does LFS do anything funny with the pedals? It's repeatable. I could run RBR forever and the pedals never stuck. As soon as I started LFS and drove a few rounds then the gas pedal stuck. It's getting very frustrated. I'm pretty sure it has something to do with LFS as this didn't happen with any other sims.

- I have my DFP set at 450 degree (LFS also set at 450 with 36 degree lock). Is it good enough for drifting? What is yours set at?

- Thanks for the pointer to the drifting lesson server. I just d/l S2 demo a few days ago. Can I join a server with the demo version?

Thanks again.

-DrftMstr-

23rd February 2006, 17:16

why am i even talking about BL lol i think i've already done BL blindfolded a few times... but anyways, that clutch kick technique is a personal taste. I really like swinging the car from opposite lock to another, so that lil kick has to be placed at the right timing, dosing the kick very accurately, it will feel like a lil boost:P anyways, very useful on KY with the RB4

newdriver1

24th February 2006, 19:43

When you start drifting to a corner, again taking the Blackwood regular as an example, from the 1st straight to a 90 degree right hand turn, do you start to drift from outside or inside of the turn? What's the right position to start kicking the rear out?
Thanks again.

RevMonkey

24th February 2006, 20:02

the thing is, drifting is mainly about reaction and instinct. you can teach techinique, how to slide a car, how to control it, but when you're asking how to take a corner, everyone takes it differently. many people like to take the inside, feint to out then intiate a drift. many others choku-dori (basically a feint, except drifting). I kansei (basically lift off throttle while turning in at high speed, then jumping back on throttle). it's all up to your personal tastes.