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DeadWolfBones
29th April 2008, 17:50
Hello, drivers!

In the interest of getting more eastern European teams into the series, and of getting some of you to bed a little earlier, we have been discussing moving the start time for our races back by 1-3 hours. So, we've decided to put up a poll/discussion thread to see what you all think.

This is a non-binding poll, solely to get an idea of the community response.

Please post with any and all opinions/suggestions.

Thanks!

zeromussov
29th April 2008, 17:58
I voted for -3 hours. I think it's a much better time for the people in Europe (at least for me). Mostly I'm going out in de weekend or have to work.. so an earlier start time should be perfect for me.

Gil07
29th April 2008, 18:02
-1 hour would be perfect, as I have to have dinner before the races ;)

Itar (CZ)
29th April 2008, 18:03
I'm for -1. Quite confused with DST in 3rd race, and I was content with start time of first two rounds.

bdshan
29th April 2008, 18:25
With 2 small children that need to be shuttled back and forth from their weekend activities the 15:00 EST start time works out best for me. As it was I wasn't available until after 16:15 EST for round #3.:schwitz:

J.s.S
29th April 2008, 18:57
Hello to all you GT lovers!

3h earlier start time would definitely make the IGTC more appealing to us Finns (I'm quite sure that racing from 22:00 to 02:45 isn't something anyone would enjoy). If you decide to move the start time by 3 hours and there were free spots on the grid then we at n1Racing would be very much interested in taking part.

UncleBenny
29th April 2008, 19:20
I voted -2, but -1 or -3 would be great too. An earlier start would be cool, especially over the summer when I might have things going on later in the day.

Storm_Cloud
29th April 2008, 20:16
-2 or -3 works for me as I am unable at the moment to do the first stint in the race due to other leagues and I'm itching to have a go when it's all up close and personal.

srdsprinter
29th April 2008, 20:20
One of our teamates works nights, and I'm not entirely sure he'd be able to compete much earlier in the day.

Any earlier would throw off my day significantly.

That said I'd still be able to compete regardless, but no change is my vote.

Profi
29th April 2008, 20:45
Voted for -2h. I think I won't have time to race in this series but still decided to vote, because I'd really like to see some finns participating... And after counting the hours a bit more precisely, I'd actually prefer -3h :scratchch
Good luck with your season!

Rudy van Buren
29th April 2008, 20:54
voted for -2 becaus then the race is finisht at 24:00 for me.. ;)

srdjanmilasinovic
30th April 2008, 01:35
voted for -2 becaus then the race is finisht at 24:00 for me.. ;)

Same too me, but we like it! Because my vote goes to "no change time". :shrug::shrug::shrug::)

evilpimp
30th April 2008, 02:41
I really don't mind but I voted for -2 so that I could have dinner in time :D

Weed
30th April 2008, 08:43
voted - 1hr here :)

The Moose
30th April 2008, 14:29
Voted -1 hour. Any more than that is just silly for the UK

Bessa74
1st May 2008, 12:45
Voted "no change", because i have the opinion that we should never change the rulles in the midlle off the season, but i understand the idea off this topic, some people (eastern european drivers) finish the race very late :nod:.

dawesdust_12
1st May 2008, 16:02
I just want to be able to work on IGTC days, so I can make money to pay for my Macbook Pro. Selfish Answers FTW.

Primoz
1st May 2008, 19:32
Voted "no change", because i have the opinion that we should never change the rulles in the midlle off the season, but i understand the idea off this topic, some people (eastern european drivers) finish the race very late :nod:.

I think this would affect the next season only.

DeadWolfBones
1st May 2008, 20:02
I think this would affect the next season only.

It could go either way. We'd like to keep the grid full this season, and whatever gets that done while staying within our quality standards...

But if people are really split about it it might be better to wait till next season.

Scott_Michaels
2nd May 2008, 08:42
I wouldn't really call the start time a "rule", but it would be a shame to exclude certain teams mid season, even if it helps the field size.
Unless field size drops below 20 or so I don't think there is any need to change it this season, so hopefully this will come into effect next season.
Never the less, I voted for -3 hours, partly to appeal to more people (I'm a big fan of big grids), and partly so I can have my dinner after my 3 hour stint :D

The Moose
2nd May 2008, 15:44
Never the less, I voted for -3 hours, partly to appeal to more people (I'm a big fan of big grids), and partly so I can have my dinner after my 3 hour stint :D

...but we have big grids anyway. -3 hours will just inconvenience as many people as it will appeal to others.

There is no need to change it at all this season, imo.
Take it into consideration for next season by all means, but don't make changes now that will see some people have to drop out mid season pls.

Scott_Michaels
2nd May 2008, 16:11
well if thats the case, then I voted for it so I can have my dinner after my stint ;)

Primoz
3rd May 2008, 12:17
...but we have big grids anyway. -3 hours will just inconvenience as many people as it will appeal to others.

There is no need to change it at all this season, imo.
Take it into consideration for next season by all means, but don't make changes now that will see some people have to drop out mid season pls.

The last time i checked Finalnd was the country with the second most registered drivers, only behind Germany. Imagine the amount of people benefitting from being able to sleep normally if you move the start time back :P

joshdifabio
3rd May 2008, 14:26
Voted -1 hour. Any more than that is just silly for the UK

Hmm, why's that? At the moment an event runs from 2000 to 0045 for us in the UK. I don't really see how 1700 to 2145 or 1800 to 2245 would be so bad, especially when you consider that some people are having to drive until 0245 or even 0345.

If everybody votes for what they want, and not what they think the majority want then we'll get the most representative solution.

DeadWolfBones
3rd May 2008, 16:42
If everybody votes for what they want, and not what they think the majority want then we'll get the most representative solution.

Yep.

The Moose
3rd May 2008, 18:23
Hmm, why's that?

Simply because most people i know in the UK are usually having their evening meal sometime between 5pm and 7pm.
I certainly don't want to start racing at 5 in the afternoon. As the poll stands I'm in the minority. If the start goes back three hours then i will be pulling out, not something i want to have to do as it's by far the best league I've driven in.
So i voted -1 hour for purely selfish reasons, as most people do:)

If everybody votes for what they want, and not what they think the majority want then we'll get the most representative solution.

Well done for stating the obvious :razz: That's what i hope most people do with polls ;)

dawesdust_12
3rd May 2008, 18:32
Nah Moose, I vote for majority. Remember that "Most realistic game ever"... I voted NFS because the majority thought so too. :p

rcpilot
3rd May 2008, 20:51
I'm mostly indifferent but I've grown fond of being able to sleep in, screw around a bit, and then get in some practice pre-race, so I voted to keep it as is. :P I don't think any of these start times would realistically annoy someone in the US though (besides scheduling conflicts), still much better than waking up at 5 am etc. for MoE. Earliest this would make someone wake up is 9 am on the west coast.

SamH
3rd May 2008, 21:50
Moderately indifferent here, but I voted -2.

The late, late finishes are hard for us old farts and everybody knows I like to be tucked in with me cocoa by 9pm :D

Locovich
4th May 2008, 23:26
saturday is workday here, and we are UTC-3 in Argentina. 3 hours earlier will compromise our job, but if actual start time is late, i voted -1 hour.:)

Cawwa
5th May 2008, 14:13
Actually if we want to keep the origin start time we should move the current start time one hour back due to the day light saving time.
Earlier 19.00 UTC ment 20.00 CET (Central European Time) but now with the change to summer time it means 21.00 CEST.

We should have moved the starting time to 18.00 UTC to get 20.00 CEST as it was before direct the summer time started.

For the next season we could discuss if we want to start even earlier, but the change above should be done right now.

MxN
10th May 2008, 13:41
19:00-17:00 UTC is very hard for us. With start at 19:00 UTC the finish will at 4 a.m. in local time.

DeadWolfBones
10th May 2008, 17:00
At this point it seems somewhat likely that we will move the time back 1 hour for the remainder of this season, to compensate for daylight savings time. For the next season we'll look into a more drastic change, but it wouldn't be fair to change it that much in the middle of this season.

srdjanmilasinovic
25th May 2008, 15:48
Wait, do we change start time for next race (AS4)? We start Round 4 in 19 GMT/UTC or in 18 GMT/UTC?

BenjiMC
25th May 2008, 17:21
next round is 18 utc, so local time will be the same as earlier this season.