Thread outtakes - UK

[StableX]

woohoo! I better get some practise in.... See you on your server tonight Struan?

[Dru]

woohoo! I better get some practise in.... See you on your server tonight Struan?



but your from Yeman Andy? ... :really: :razz:

[StableX]

but your from Yeman Andy? ... :really: :razz:

from Yemen yes, but residing in the UK!

[Dru]

from Yemen yes, but residing in the UK!


has eSports-Racing not got a Yemanese LEague for you to win and qualify for the internationals then :razz: :D

[StableX]

I tried to get a Yemen domain together for LFS but at about $400 for a domain, I haven't!

[Dru]

lol i just seen that you are using that silly name again Andy.... WHY... don't you know it just makes you and the league a laughing stock..

[StableX]

lol i just seen that you are using that silly name again Andy.... WHY... don't you know it just makes you and the league a laughing stock..

Why don't you keep your butt out

[Dru]

Why don't you keep your butt out


ok :D

[Bean0]

Why don't you keep your butt out

7. Carlivery and Drivernames

On the server drivers have to use their real name either this way:

Forename Surname
Or
F. Surename if it would be too long the other way

Colour codes in names are allowed

No stupid names :nod:

[StableX]

To me it's not stupid. Have used this surname for years online. If it's an issue for eTm they are welcome to refund my money but I hope this won't be the case.

[AlienT.]

The only silly name I see in the entrance list is 'Struan' unfortunately that is my real name :shrug:.
Lets close this name thing please?

[Bean0]

Rules is rules.

Can I get a waiver on the FCV then ?

[SamH]

Andy, I'm very concerned that there's already a direct disregard for the series rules at such an early stage, before we've even started. The rules state that you must use your real name for the series.

I want to be clear about this: you definitely cannot meet this series regulation?

[Christopher Raemisch]

Andy, I'm very concerned that there's already a direct disregard for the series rules at such an early stage, before we've even started. The rules state that you must use your real name for the series.

I want to be clear about this: you definitely cannot meet this series regulation?

StableX... we went through this on the CTRA and you know what happened. Please change your name :D

[StableX]

My money has been accepted. and with the name used, my account has had its acceptance to this series by the organiser. If this was a mistake and the organiser did not want to do this, they are welcome to refund me the money and I will not take part.

[SamH]

I just want to establish some things, so nobody is under the wrong impressions about anything here and so that nobody just thinks our rules and regulations are a bunch of tossers with a bit of power, ready to throw it around. That's not the situation here.

All participants are required to abide by all of the league's regulations. If you are not willing to abide by the series rules then you shouldn't sign up. If we don't apply our rules evenly, to everyone equally, then the series is worthless. This goes for all of our rules, whether name conventions or blue flag/lapping rules. The naming rule will be enforced.

This is a feeder to a pro league. The sponsors for the pro league are real companies bringing real money to the series, for real prizes. We will not undermine or risk that relationship by taking the micky at national level.

[StableX]

Who is running this league now?

[SamH]

UKCT is running the UK Nationals for eSport. CTRA is the regulations governing body.

[StableX]

so who in the UKCT is in charge of the UK event please? I will PM them and discuss this.

[BenjiMC]

If his name isn't offensive i dont see the REAL issue here. Some people like to protect their identity over the net and would rather not use their real name. I know one person in IGTC at least did so.

Edit: i suggest someone fix the fact that i STILL cannot access the forums rather than hounding someone about a fake surname.

[SamH]

Benji, most of the sponsors for eTM are dealing with Joe in German. The name Andy wants to use is "Cherry Gateaux". I'm not offended by it, even remotely, but it's in breach of the series regulations.

[edit] Trying to figure the access issues now, Benji

[Christopher Raemisch]

If his name isn't offensive i dont see the REAL issue here. Some people like to protect their identity over the net and would rather not use their real name. I know one person in IGTC at least did so.

Edit: i suggest someone fix the fact that i STILL cannot access the forums rather than hounding someone about a fake surname.

The problem is not the 'fake' last name, the problem is the meaning behind the name and the translation of it in other languages... namely German, which is where eSport is located and a good majority of it's users are from.

benjiMC I will ask for someone to sort it out again, I don't have access.

[StableX]

Benji, most of the sponsors for eTM are dealing with Joe in German. The name Andy wants to use is "Cherry Gateaux". I'm not offended by it, even remotely, but it's in breach of the series regulations.

[edit] Trying to figure the access issues now, Benji

no Sam, if I wanted to use the word Gateaux, I would! This is not the case. I am using the word Kirschetorte, in its wording as is!

I do believe the person that accepted my money and names to then be able to add the event to my site details could see all my details before accepting.

[SamH]

We will organize a refund, Andy. The matter is closed.

[niels1]

Hmmm here we go again. What i really dont get is why Andy has to be picked on every time. Sure he did something stupid in the past and feels shit about it. He paid the penalty aswell. But now he paid to join something. Money has been accepted, when they accepted that they also accepted the name that comes with it and all other things.

You cant just say bcus the name doesnt look real just kick pepople out. They had to make sure the name was real for entering. This name thing is really annoying. Forget it like we all did and let the guy have his pleasure at racing in this league.

Do you really think that sponsor have a look at the list of entrys. Look at proffesionel gamers. Do they use a real name ?. No, even better they use the names to promote there products. Those players even get payed to join.


We will organize a refund, Andy. The matter is closed.

Sam you must be joking. You really cant be serious about this.

[StableX]

yup, I know a few players, fully sponsored, and the sponsors for a gaming event are fine with that.

[DeadWolfBones]

The fact that the (likely automated) system accepted his bogus name doesn't mean that he gets to bypass the rule.

It's a thing of principle. If you give one person a special exemption for one rule, you open yourself to an avalanche.

[StableX]

The fact that the (likely automated) system accepted his bogus name doesn't mean that he gets to bypass the rule.

It's a thing of principle. If you give one person a special exemption for one rule, you open yourself to an avalanche.

it wasn't automated!

[SamH]

If we let this slide, then anyone can challenge any rule in the series and say "well you let THAT rule slide, so let this one go!" That's a situation that no league organizer should find themselves in, and I'm not volunteering the series for that level of dispute.

We're running a league, and some people just simply aren't compatible with leagues because they don't understand that rules that are set by the league are non-negotiable. This is such a situation, and so a refund will be forthcoming.

[AlienT.]

I for one am getting fed up with this 'name' thing. Enough was enough with all the CTRA stuff a while back. Andy pretty please with a kirschte on top change your name, no need to be embarrassed that your real surname is higginbuttocks :D.

LOL Moose, even with no arms and blind you'd still be faster than me....so no! :)

[niels1]

This whole deal leaves me with a sauer taste in my mouth.:shrug:

But if Fatal1ty wants to join, under that name you will tell him he has to change his name ?? No way !!

[Christopher Raemisch]

This whole deal leaves me with a sauer taste in my mouth.:shrug:

But if Fatal1ty wants to join, under that name you will tell him he has to change his name ?? No way !!

Who is that? Sorry I don't know a racer by that username.

And yes we will, Just because a person has 'special' status doesn't mean they are above the regulations and they get to decide which rules they do, and don't follow.

[Thunderhead]

Who is that? Sorry I don't know a racer by that username.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Wendel


:shrug:

[StableX]

But if Fatal1ty wants to join, under that name you will tell him he has to change his name ?? No way !!

yeah, mate, they wouldn't. Might stop them getting sponsors if it goes Pro! :thumb:

[niels1]

Who is that? Sorry I don't know a racer by that username.

And yes we will, Just because a person has 'special' status doesn't mean they are above the regulations and they get to decide which rules they do, and don't follow.

So you dont know him, he has a big sponsor and they use that name on there brand aswell.

But what I dont get the guy who added Andy to the league is a german. He didnt make a fuzz about it. Only you and Sam do. Is this nitpicking ???

[Christopher Raemisch]

So you dont know him, he has a big sponsor and they use that name on there brand aswell.

But what I dont get the guy who added Andy to the league is a german. He didnt make a fuzz about it. Only you and Sam do. Is this nitpicking ???

He did make a fuss :thumb: it's something I shouldn't have done and didn't realize until after I had already hit accept. No excusses, I should have verified license names to the CTRA database and it would have solved the issue right then and there, but I was at work and didn't...

[SamH]

The matter is closed. Why are we even still talking about it? Whether or not there was an error accepting his application in the first place, when he was asked if he would comply with the regulations before racing he said he would NOT. Therefore, accepted or not, he's in breach of the regulations and he is OUT.

Now, let's move on and stop dirtying up this thread with COMPLETE irrelevences.

[StableX]

irrelevances to you Sam maybe. not to others. Why don't you just use your moderator powers to close another thread that doesn't fall under your own view point!

[SamH]

There's an ETM race on right now, btw.. much more interesting.. I'm off to watch the live stream! :)

http://www.esport-racing.com/liga.php?action=stream

[SamH]

irrelevances to you Sam maybe. not to others. Why don't you just use your moderator powers to close another thread that doesn't fall under your own view point!
No, you're not trashing our thread into closure.

YOU won't accept the series regulations, so YOU cannot participate. End of.

[StableX]

I thought you went to watch the stream already. !:scratchch

and I am not trashing "your" thread. Don't start your nonsense again! I tried to deal with this in a professional manner and deal with this between ourselves but you said it had to be on the forum.

[niels1]

Really sorry to hear this. That you both take his mistakes up even in a league. You trully made me loose the faith in the rules you have set. Only for a silly name. Unbelievable. Now regarding about dirtying up this thread, you both didnt want anything in PM. You both asked if Andy could post in the thread. :shrug:

I am very dissapointed in both of you. :shrug:
I wish you all the best but this wasnt necesarry and it blown totaly outta proportion.

[DeadWolfBones]

What it comes down to is someone not complying with a clearly stated rule. If he doesn't comply, he can't race.

No big deal.

[StableX]

So Sam, let me get this straight. YOu tell me in a PM you are not going to deal with this through the PM system and I must post in the public readable thread. I do post and deal with this in the thread where you start talking about name issues. You then move all the posts and lock the thread.

That in my view is not right!

[Toddshooter]

This name is not an issue! You guys are making an issue of it AGAIN!!! No one else cares. Until you got pissed at Andy about a totally separate issue, which was well deserved and he admitted it. (ISSUE CLOSED!!!) There was no "name rule" in your rules until after the fact.

I am ****ing pissed at your twisting of your moderator powers on this form!!!!!!! You are the one that wanted it in a public forum and then closed it. UNFAIR DEALINGS!!

OH, and Dru you are a cocksucker stirring the pot again!!!!!!!!! Sticking your nose in where it doesn't belong. Or maybe it does belong up Sams ass. Are you sure your on the right team?
Maybe you should try to get on the CTRA instead of CR.

I am disgusted with the CTRA right now and am starting to see that Redline might have had a point with some of their comments about moderator abuse.
****in shocking:shrug::shrug:

[SamH]

The matter is closed. The name rule is very clear in the ETM regulations, and only people who accept the rules and abide by them are permitted to race. If you don't get that, then you're just not league racing material.

Todd, you have a well-earned infraction for absolutely unacceptable language and abuse of another member.

[teedot]

So this is how you guys run things on behalf of a league eh? You tell someone to post their issues in a public thread after refusing to deal with it via PM, then you just delete the posts and never address the PERFECTLY VALID ARGUMENT? Are we playing some sort of childish playground game here? Why must you constantly dig up crap from the past Sam? This has already been long dealt with, so WHY DO YOU START UP AGAIN? UNBELIEVABLE!

[niall09]

Shut up. I see the HR guys have come out in force..

If he can't abide by the rules, then he can't race. No need to make a big deal over it. Don't mount all the blame on Sam, he is doing his job, It is Andy that has started it. And ye guys aren't doing much good either, just childish comments as far as im concerned.

Grow up.

[StableX]

seems to me that someone who is acting as a moderator of the forums is abusing their admin powers. Again, I am staggered you make a PM to me stating:

I'm not discussing this in secret, by PM..

Firstly, this was not in secret but dealing with matters in the correct way. I have seen you use your moderator powers to stop posts/threads because things were in public and not closed!

I think if anything, your moderator powers should be revoked!

[SamH]

We have not brought this up. We are running a league. One of the league rules is that you have to use your real name. If you do not accept the league rules, then you may not enter the league.

That is the situation. If anyone thinks that they can join the league and dictate which rules we are allowed to apply and which we are not, they are mistaken.

This matter is STILL closed, and it will not be re-opened.

[SamH]

Firstly, this was not in secret but dealing with matters in the correct way.
There is ONLY ONE way to deal with this in the correct way. Agree to abide by the league's rules.

If you will not do that, you have NO PLACE HERE.

[teedot]

Shut up. I see the HR guys have come out in force..

If he can't abide by the rules, then he can't race. No need to make a big deal over it. Don't mount all the blame on Sam, he is doing his job, It is Andy that has started it. And ye guys aren't doing much good either, just childish comments as far as im concerned.

Grow up.

Um EXCUSE ME?

Niall, you don't know half of the crap that has gone on in the past regarding this. So keep your comments to yourself.

[Jakg]

How does him being a mod affect this? Even if he wasn't he'd be made a mod in this section anyway when Vic created it.

If you HR guys think that you will solve this issue after all the correspondance with Sam in relation the the "CTRA thing" I'm afraiad you are mistaken - It's obvious (to me at least) that this issue won't be solved unless one of you back down, and i'm fairly sure that's not gonna happen.

[StableX]

I see you just take the bit of the post that interests you. What a surprise.

So you are now saying that if you do not take part in the league you are not welcome here. I think you are actually quite wrong Sam. Many people, like me, that enjoy watching the eTM league and events, also are welcome here!

Don't do your twisting again!

[DeadWolfBones]

Um EXCUSE ME?

Niall, you don't know half of the crap that has gone on in the past regarding this. So keep your comments to yourself.

Regardless, none of the stuff that happened in the past applies to this particular situation.

All of you guys are coming off as more than a little ridiculous to people who don't know the history between HR and CTRA, which is apparently everyone.

edit: moreover, you're dragging down the discussion of the entire league due to your need to air your petty dispute.

[StableX]

Regardless, none of the stuff that happened in the past applies to this particular situation.

All of you guys are coming off as more than a little ridiculous to people who don't know the history between HR and CTRA, which is apparently everyone.

I agree with you DeadWolfBones. This is why I tried to be reasoned and discuss this by PM's instead of Sam's preferred choice of in the public thread. However, it seems it didn't suit him so he moved the posts that didn't suit him and closed that thread.

[Dru]

I see you just take the bit of the post that interests you. What a surprise.

So you are now saying that if you do not take part in the league you are not welcome here. I think you are actually quite wrong Sam. Many people, like me, that enjoy watching the eTM league and events, also are welcome here!

Don't do your twisting again!


I think tbh Sam is saying that 'as a driver' you have no place in the eTM :shrug:....and you have just mis read it Andy...

[StableX]

minor point compared to abuse of moderator privileges! Point taken though Justin!

[SamH]

I agree with you DeadWolfBones. This is why I tried to be reasoned and discuss this by PM's instead of Sam's preferred choice of in the public thread. However, it seems it didn't suit him so he moved the posts that didn't suit him and closed that thread.
It was discussed. I made it clear that you would be required to abide by the rules. You refused to abide by the rules, you were removed from the league and the matter was closed.

[mcgas001]

OK, I know this thread has nothing to do with me and your probley gonna flame me none the less but im getting very annoyed with all this posting and flamming im seeing. All this has started over a stupid name, Im not being funny Sam. Whats the deal? Its not like it translates to **** your mother or ****s face does it? No it does, and it that respect it shold be ignored. I speak to StableX a lot and no im not part of [HR] but im saying what i think.

Im friends with Sam and StableX and i dont wanna fall out with you Sam but im getting pissed off. To me it looks like you are picking on Stable over the slightest little things. Ive seen you let more then this go before and it just pisses me off seeing all this crap.

Think of this, LFS is a game, We are a comunity. Why are we constantly fighting and arguing all the time? I see this crap and other stuff like the GT5 threads, In there people are flamming. Why do you bother SERIOUSLY!

I cannot comment on Sam's moderator privilages as ill most likely be banned, Im sorry if you dont like this post but i speak my mind and this is what im thinking right now....

[SamH]

OK, I know this thread has nothing to do with me and your probley gonna flame me none the less but im getting very annoyed with all this posting and flamming im seeing. All this has started over a stupid name, Im not being funny Sam. Whats the deal? Its not like it translates to **** your mother or ****s face does it? No it does, and it that respect it shold be ignored. I speak to StableX a lot and no im not part of [HR] but im saying what i think.

Im friends with Sam and StableX and i dont wanna fall out with you Sam but im getting pissed off. To me it looks like you are picking on Stable over the slightest little things. Ive seen you let more then this go before and it just pisses me off seeing all this crap.

Think of this, LFS is a game, We are a comunity. Why are we constantly fighting and arguing all the time? I see this crap and other stuff like the GT5 threads, In there people are flamming. Why do you bother SERIOUSLY!

I cannot comment on Sam's moderator privilages as ill most likely be banned, Im sorry if you dont like this post but i speak my mind and this is what im thinking right now....
Sean, it comes down to the post immediately prior to yours. I don't care about whatever anyone else wants to try to attach to this, we are running a league according to a set of rules. We are keeping to the rules that we have set. Anyone who won't agree to them, or refuses to abide by them, is not allowed to race in the league. That's everything.

[Jakg]

Without taking sides, Andy doesn't want to use his real name - Sam has no problem with this, as long as it sounds real. To use a joke name in a serious racing league (or in the CTRA) goes against the professional image.

Imagine watching the eTM and hearing "and Bigus Dickus overtakes Isaac Hunt for the lead!"

[StableX]

Without taking sides, Andy doesn't want to use his real name - Sam has no problem with this, as long as it sounds real. To use a joke name in a serious racing league (or in the CTRA) goes against the professional image.

Imagine watching the eTM and hearing "and Bigus Dickus overtakes Isaac Hunt for the lead!"

If you are seriously putting Kirschetorte in to the same realm as Bick Dick and Isaac or Mike Hunt then I am staggered!

[SamH]

Not quite, Jak. In the ETM, you are required to use your real name. These are league rules, which are extended over CTRA public server rules.

[StableX]

Sean, Sam has found the point in the record now. Best to just leave it. He'll act like a vinyl with a scratch from now on!

[StableX]

Not quite, Jak. In the ETM, you are required to use your real name. These are league rules, which are extended over CTRA public server rules.

That is blatantly not true Sam. eTM UK, as you have stated, is in breach of the data protection act if it is enforcing the use of REAL NAME which is how you have stated it many times here. CTRA is different in that it allows people to use a "real sounding name" which is very different. Please don't confuse the issue at hand here!

[Jakg]

And I'm staggered this issue is still going tbh.

As some people will know, Kirschtorte is a type of cake in German (a yummy Cherry Tart iirc) - for a league with a strong foothold in Germany, to hear "...and Andy Cherrytart crashes out after Bill Banana nudges him" is yet another thing that makes sim-racing seem the realm of "kids" (like my good friend "uberpwnz0r9996664lyfe!111"), rather than a professional league comprised of mature adults.

EDIT - Sam, you have said in the past that you don't have to use your real name, merely a "real sounding" one.

[StableX]

And I'm staggered this issue is still going tbh.

As some people will know, Kirschtorte is a type of cake in German (a yummy Cherry Tart iirc) - for a league with a strong foothold in Germany, to hear "...and Andy Cherrytart crashes out after Bill Banana nudges him" is yet another thing that makes sim-racing seem the realm of "kids" (like my good friend "uberpwnz0r9996664lyfe!111"), rather than a proffesional league.

SO based on this fact Jakg, if the german person who saw my name and accepted my payment by adding my name to the UK eTM had no issue with it.....................................

[BenjiMC]

The thing is that I'm pretty sure if it wasn't for the fact theres theres PROPER sponsors in the eTm Sam wouldn't really care too much. But because of the fact that the name means cherry gateau or whatever in German and the majority of organisation is done in Germany, it becomes an issue. If i was a manager of the sponsorship of a company like l'oreal and the league had people called John fruit cake and peter polo mints i wouldn't bother sponsoring it. The way i see it if Andy changed his name to something reasonable and Sam was still at odds with him it's petty from Sam, but right now HR is being petty. Especially considering the whole thing is over and done with and the majority of drivers in HR are choosing this moment to bring up past differences.

[Jakg]

Your directing this at me as if I know - I haven't been particularily active in LFS with UKCT for quite some time due to RL and a GF, and when I AM in contact Sam has disspeared (where ARE you?!).

I'm simply giving my opinion based on the the overview i got from reading correspondance related to HR and Sam about Mr. Cherry Cake.

I do not understand the payment system.

EDIT - Benji - the issue is that Andy had this name on the CTRA system. It got removed. He added it again. It got removed. This repeated a few times. He got banned. Many PM's flew either way and to do0f and from other HR members. Now Sam, involved in a project (i think) linked to CTRA / UKCT, has come up against the same issue and now his reasoning is even stronger. This has made the issue come up again.

[StableX]

Sort it out in private, this is farcical.

Some of us just want to race.

totally agree and I tried to do it this way but Sam's choice was to not do it this way.

[Jakg]

Not quite, Jak. In the ETM, you are required to use your real name. These are league rules, which are extended over CTRA public server rules.http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?p=691193#post691193 says otherwise. I can understand that perhaps CTRA rules would be less strict than eTM ones in this regard, but if so you should change this post.

[SamH]

There is no confusion, Andy. Use of real name in the ETM is entirely voluntary. You can opt out by not participating. If you don't want to use your real name, don't sign up. End of story. There is no breach of data protection. I'm very familiar with that law, and if you are as well then stop taking the micky.

@ Benji, you're right. However, at this point I am not willing to have Andy in the league under any guise or name. If this is the level of behaviour over a simple rule as this, and at such an early stage, I cannot imagine what would happen if he were given a DT for crossing a yellow line in a race. I am simply not willing to risk the series by having him in it, now. Not after this ludicrous performance.

[StableX]

There is no confusion, Andy. Use of real name in the ETM is entirely voluntary. You can opt out by not participating. If you don't want to use your real name, don't sign up. End of story. There is no breach of data protection. I'm very familiar with that law, and if you are as well then stop taking the micky.

@ Benji, you're right. However, at this point I am not willing to have Andy in the league under any guise or name. If this is the level of behaviour over a simple rule as this, and at such an early stage, I cannot imagine what would happen if he were given a DT for crossing a yellow line in a race. I am simply not willing to risk the series by having him in it, now. Not after this ludicrous performance.

Shame the LFS directors don't think the same after your abuse of moderator powers!

[SamH]

Sort it out in private, this is farcical.

Some of us just want to race.
It's already been sorted out. I've cleaned this thread before, and I am about to do so again. You wanna race, and we wanna get down to some serious league racing :thumb:

[StableX]

It's incredibly immature to ask someone to talk in public then move and close a thread where things were talked about!

[AlienT.]

Imagine watching the eTM and hearing "and Bigus Dickus overtakes Isaac Hunt for the lead!"

and they both get overtaken by Bawbag :)

on topic - Please guys can we stop this now :shrug:

[SamH]

and they both get overtaken by Bawbag :)
It's probably important to point out that the person that won the race tonight was called "Raymond Mooney" in all screen text and by the race commentators. There was no reference to "Bawbag". I just wanted to make sure that that was understood, so nobody decided to try and use it in their argument. ;) I agree, it's all past tense and the league is moving on :)

[StableX]

go bawbag!

[thisnameistaken]

I've never seen anybody take their joke name so seriously. :rolleyes:

[The Moose]

I'm absolutely stunned over the crap I'm reading in here.

How hard is it to understand that leagues have rules. :shrug:
You agree to abide by the leagues rules or you don't participate.

How much more simple can it get?

3 pages? Unbelievable.

[Bawbag]

It's probably important to point out that the person that won the race tonight was called "Raymond Mooney" in all screen text and by the race commentators. There was no reference to "Bawbag". I just wanted to make sure that that was understood, so nobody decided to try and use it in their argument. ;) I agree, it's all past tense and the league is moving on :)


Mad lawls, seriously, if I ever thought i'd be driving at any sort of level where my name was said by commentators I would have chosen a much more 'suitable' name....:D

It's just funny that my real surname means to flash rear end at someone....:x

[AlienT.]

It's just funny that my real surname means to flash rear end at someone....:x

Laugh....jees I nearly bought a round of drinks...:D

[dawesdust_12]

I've never seen anybody take their joke name so seriously. :rolleyes:

Ok Mr. NameisTaken... If that is your real name... :hide:

[thisnameistaken]

Ok Mr. NameisTaken... If that is your real name... :hide:

I don't tend to bandy my surname around on random forums because I'm self-employed and I don't like the idea of being googled and having some potential client with an overflowing wallet decide I'm not "serious" enough to do my job.

But I'd simply not enter Vykos' league rather than whine about how I should be allowed to be called Kommandant Kev Kugelschreiber.

[dawesdust_12]

But Kev...

Isn't self-employed just a weasel word to avoid saying "I don't PARTICULARLY have a job", like how I'm a self-employed astronaut?

[thisnameistaken]

But Kev...

Isn't self-employed just a weasel word to avoid saying "I don't PARTICULARLY have a job", like how I'm a self-employed astronaut?

There are times when I'd rather just say I didn't have a job. Most of the people I meet are actors or set designers or directors or something creative and interesting like that - it's no fun when the inevitable "So what do you do?" question arrives and all you've got is developing web applications. :(

I fully intend to stop doing this to do something much more creative and starve to death if necessary just to avoid feeling so inadequate all the time.

[dawesdust_12]

Isn't being warm and clothed and full and drunk such a hard life?...

:p

[thisnameistaken]

Isn't being warm and clothed and full and drunk such a hard life?...

:p

Mmm. To be honest my main incentive is that I was chatting to this boho/punk twentysomething in the pub last week who fancied herself as a struggling writer, and she had the most fantastic knockers...

[dawesdust_12]

Sounds good to me! Kev, I'll hold your flat for you, keep it nicely cleaned while you downgrade to get with her, and then once you fall through, we can start a TV comedy called "Life with Kev" where we get into a ton of shenanigans.

[thisnameistaken]

If you want to afford my flat I think you'll have to take my job too.

This could be quite funny. To be honest I don't think the artsy fling would last long, she struck me as a little bit unhinged, even by my standards. My friend Matt would've been all over her like herpes though - he likes 'em deranged.

[dawesdust_12]

Kev, don't worry. If your clients need something designed by a blind man, they can call on me. I am t3h greatest with teh tabl3s!, I can create things you didn't know were possible with a <td>?... :p

Gimme a redhead any day, they're a strange breed, but in a great way. Especially because they seem to either be completely nymphomaniacal, or geeks, or both. All combos are great.

[thisnameistaken]

I only had one redhead girlfriend, who I moved in with because I was probably going to be homeless if I didn't. Turned out her parents were both alcoholics and she got very, very nasty and unpredictable when she'd been drinking.

Two trips to the emergency room, one expensive double bass turned to firewood, and a couple of nights spent sleeping on the beach later, I decided I'd cut my losses and move back to the UK. ;)

[dawesdust_12]

But you were in Americaland, no? Those folk are always a bit crazy. Now if you'd have gone a bit norther, to Torontoville, or Montrealland, you'd have ended with epic win.

[thisnameistaken]

I tried to go to Montreal but the border guards wouldn't let me out of Vermont. I may have looked a little bit like a crackhead hobo at the time, but it still seemed pretty unfair.

[dawesdust_12]

If you'd have had time, the BC border guards would have welcomed you with open arms, and asked you to share.

:p

[thisnameistaken]

I just remembered, on the way back we decided to hike up mount Washington in NH, and when we got near the top it started snowing quite heavily so we beat a hasty retreat to the car. When we eventually got there we were freezing and there was about a foot of snow on the ground, I put the key in the door, turned it and broke it. :D

We did get in eventually by breaking the boot latch and climbing in that way but it would've been a funny way to die.

Hitting your 30s and realising your life was so much more interesting ten years ago sucks.

[dawesdust_12]

I've come up with a simple solution.

Die at 29?

I swear, it's genius.

[dawesdust_12]

In addition:

Busty Redheads.

Discuss.

[DieKolkrabe]

In addition:

Busty Redheads.

Discuss.

Dustin. Strip Poker

[The Moose]

I see this thread took a turn for the better :thumb:

Keep it up chaps:D

[Toddshooter]

Hi all

I would like to apoligize for the language I used in my post yesterday.

However I will not apoligize for posting what I did. I don't think it is wrong for me to post in a clear way what I thought, as opposed to the veiled and sly way some people get their digs in!
You know who you are.... Leave it alone man, you acomplished what you were after (in a crappy way) so stop already!
I think it's much more repulsive than actually coming out like a stand up person and saying what you mean.

Stop twisting the knife every chance you get!!

Anyway to everyone else on the forum, Sorry for the language it won't happen again. And I'm not trying to get the posts going again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[thisnameistaken]

However I will not apoligize for posting what I did. I don't think it is wrong for me to post in a clear way what I thought, as opposed to the veiled and sly way some people get their digs in!

Good lad. If there's one thing I can't abide it's subtlety. Oh and sarcasm. I'm from Yorkshire; I say what I like and I like what I bloody well say.

I love you more than I love any pig - and that's sayin' summat.

[Christopher Raemisch]

Good lad. If there's one thing I can't abide it's subtlety. Oh and sarcasm. I'm from Yorkshire; I say what I like and I like what I bloody well say.

I love you more than I love any pig - and that's sayin' summat.

Gotta love people from Yorkshire =)

[Toddshooter]

James Herriot is my idol:thumb:

[dawesdust_12]

I see this tread took a turn for the better :thumb:

Keep it up chaps:D

I try. Now if kev would send his folder of Busty Redhead pics, I'd be happy.

[Dru]

Hi all

I would like to apoligize for the language I used in my post yesterday.

However I will not apoligize for posting what I did. I don't think it is wrong for me to post in a clear way what I thought, as opposed to the veiled and sly way some people get their digs in!
You know who you are.... Leave it alone man, you acomplished what you were after (in a crappy way) so stop already!
I think it's much more repulsive than actually coming out like a stand up person and saying what you mean.

Stop twisting the knife every chance you get!!

Anyway to everyone else on the forum, Sorry for the language it won't happen again. And I'm not trying to get the posts going again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Hi Todd, the person you talk of is obviously me.

Maybe I should have just posted "Andy, the surname you are using is against the rules for this league?"

Was it sly? was it viled? What was i trying to accomplish exactly?

Getting Andy to abide by the rules???? sure I was.... whats the problem in that?


What have i done in the 18 months against HR?

December - reported a member of HR in the CTRA system for wrecking.

That driver then did other things off his own back which meant that he was given a ban..... nothing to to with me whatsoever.

That same guy now signs up for a league using a name that is against the rules....if Andy is not competing because he won't change his name... thats his problem, not mine. I'd actually like to race against Andy or any competitor for that matter that abides by the rules for that league... So please, don't witch hunt me for independant decisions that YOUR tem mate is doing off of his back.

[thisnameistaken]

I try. Now if kev would send his folder of Busty Redhead pics, I'd be happy.

The only busty redhead I've got naked pics of is SamH. They are pretty hot though.

Hi Todd, the person you talk of is obviously me. ...

Back on topic Dru plz m8.