Round 7 Pre-Race Discussion

[JO53PHS]

You know the drill. Talk here about how we will all epic fail in GTRs :D

Was I supposed to make this thread? :D

[J@tko]

Was I supposed to make this thread? :D


Yes :D

Me=epic fail.

I use a keyboard. Enough said.

[evilpimp]

I love GTRs plus we have march break so I have alll week to practice for this :P

[JO53PHS]

What cars will you be using then? :)

[evilpimp]

Probably XRR cuz its a good challenge, from WR's it can keep up and I love XRs in general lol ALL OF THEM.

[dougie-lampkin]

I'll be using good 'ol beginner's reliable FXR :D

EDIT: This track is hell for tyres...Just to reach 1:36 territory, my front R3 tyres last 2 laps before going bright red on the outside...Is anybody else going to use R4s?

[GTR_Yuni]

If you can't get your tyres to last even ten laps, you're pushing far too hard.

[dougie-lampkin]

R4s last 10 laps, so I'll just do the required pit half way through :shrug:

[dekojester]

Round 7 Information:

Course: Westhill Reverse
Cars: XRR FXR FZR
Laps: 20
Pit Stop Required, not before lap 2 is started and not after lap 18 is completed. Start and end is when YOU start and end the lap. Pit stalls will be assigned by championship position. First in championship will get stall #1, P2, #2.
Extra requirements: Please declare your intent to enter and which car you will be using by the start of Free Practice 2. Failure to do so by this time will result in you starting the race from the back of the grid. This is being done to expedite the pitlane stall assignment process.

Weekend Schedule:
FP1: 15 March 2008. 1900 GMT. 60 Minutes.
FP2: 15 March 2008. 2200 GMT. 60 Minutes.
FP3: 15 March 2008. 2400 GMT. 60 Minutes.
FP4: 16 March 2008. 1545 GMT. 45 Miuntes.
Qual: 16 March 2008. 1830 GMT. 20 Minutes.
Lag Start: 16 March 2007. 1856 GMT.
Race Start: 2 Minutes after completion of Lag start.

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[JO53PHS]

This pit box thing could be another classic New Dimension Racing Event, an epic fail. :D:)

[zeugnimod]

Pit stalls will be assigned by championship position. First in championship will get stall #1, P2, #2.

If I may give my opinion here I think this will end in total chaos.

How are you supposed to know the right pit box when you are for example 15th in the championship? Drive to the first pit box, drive back again and count the pit boxes while doing that? :razz:

[J@tko]

How did I miss this thread this morning?

If I may give my opinion here I think this will end in total chaos.

How are you supposed to know the right pit box when you are for example 15th in the championship? Drive to the first pit box, drive back again and count the pit boxes while doing that? :razz:


+2.

Just go to the one that's furthest down the pit lane. (or any - it doesnt really matter!)

[TomMK]

+3

Stop as far down the pit lane as possible is the norm in other leagues i believe.

[Technique]

Just curious because I have never driven this car or track, is it not possible to do 20 laps straight? If it is, why is the pit stop required? It seems like the driver should be rewarded if he doesn't abuse the tires.

[J@tko]

Just curious because I have never driven this car or track, is it not possible to do 20 laps straight? If it is, why is the pit stop required? It seems like the driver should be rewarded if he doesn't abuse the tires.

Because it's an 'endurance' round.

Yes - I'm sure it's possible to do 20 laps, but we wanted a round with a pit stop.

[dekojester]

/me slaps forehead.

I did the pitbox assignments thing thinking that there were garage numbers above each stall like at the other tracks.

grrrrrr.

So, ignore the bit about pitbox assignmetns. GO to the furthest one down.

And ohbytheway, do NOT drive through more than two pitboxes on your way to your pit.

[dougie-lampkin]

And ohbytheway, do NOT drive through more than two pitboxes on your way to your pit.

ROFL /me can see someone driving the length of the pit boxes...it's bound to happen :razz:

And I don't think anyone could last 20 laps on the one set of tyres, and without a good deal of fuel (50% I'd say), in FXR at least...

I'll be using R4's on the front ffs :D

[Technique]

Not sure if I can make this race :( I'm going to a Knicks game on the 16th. The game doesn't start until 6PM EST but I'm an hour out of the city and we generally try to get there an hour early in case of traffic.

And... the following event I'll be on another business trip so I'm not sure if I'll make it back in time for the race... :shrug: boo...

[kipsus]

I will not be there for Round 7, holiday trip to Finland :)

[hyntty]

Don't come knocking on my door...

[kABLiuks]

what does it mean pit? do i have to refuel or change tyres or repair my damage, or i can do simple Stop-and-go thing in pits without any work?

[J@tko]

what does it mean pit? do i have to refuel or change tyres or repair my damage, or i can do simple Stop-and-go thing in pits without any work?

You can, yes. As long as your car stops in a pit box.

[dekojester]

The /mustpit option will be set to yes. If it makes LFS happy, I'll be happy.

Thinking about doing this as a rolling start. Will let you know if so or not on Wednesday at the latest.

[dougie-lampkin]

Thinking about doing this as a rolling start. Will let you know if so or not on Wednesday at the latest.


NO!!! Then the FXR loses all of it's advantage off the line! :schwitz:

[JO53PHS]

NO!!! Then the FXR loses all of it's advantage off the line! :schwitz:

+2 The FXR does seem rather quick off the line. I always thought it was me imagining it because I was hearing the turbo pressure building up :D

[evilpimp]

I think it should be rolling start so that the cars r more equal at start.

[dougie-lampkin]

But that's the main point for taking the FXR. Otherwise the FZR will just catch up later...

[evilpimp]

Seeing the WR's their pretty equal in a start were they take the straight full speed meaning that FXR will take the lead at the start and keep it since their equal. Rolling start would make it more fair.

[JO53PHS]

Seeing the WR's their pretty equal in a start were they take the straight full speed meaning that FXR will take the lead at the start and keep it since their equal. Rolling start would make it more fair.

But It will be fair anyway, because the people who are using the FXR will be the slow people :)

[dougie-lampkin]

lol FXR with FFB ain't pretty :(

[evilpimp]

Well FXR is easier to drive so u should get a fast time easier then the FZR users anyways...

[J@tko]

Well FXR is easier to drive so u should get a fast time easier then the FZR users anyways...

But it's not easy to drive quickly.

And it burns its tyres quicker.

[evilpimp]

But it's not easy to drive quickly.
Its easier to drive consistently then a FZR which will have the back lose grip every once in a while due to its AWD.

And it burns its tyres quicker.
Its also easier to control with hot tires then a FZR which will simply spin if the tires get too hot.

[dougie-lampkin]

It might be easier to control, but it'll burn the tyres twice as quick. So by the time the FZR's tyres become uncontrollable, the FXR will be in a similar position...

I've finally got around to finishing reading the rules, and I was wrongly penalised in Round 3 for chat during qualifying. The rules say that first offence is a warning, but I received a 5-spot grid penalty. In fact, you're not supposed to receive a 4 spot penalty until the 3rd repeat offence.

So, I lost out on a good few positions then. I even appealed it, but I was told I was wrong...Not going anywhere with this, I just mention it as I saw it...:shrug:

[TAYLOR-MANIA]

I think the rules were changed after Round 3, so that's why Dougie.
There were a few who chatted during the last race who should be getting penalized.

My throttle control is too poor for those beefy RWDs so i'll be using the FXR :)

[dougie-lampkin]

I think the rules were changed after Round 3, so that's why Dougie.
There were a few who chatted during the last race who should be getting penalized.

Grrrr :(

FXR should be popular though, the 4WD through corners is a nice reassurance that after a Scandinavian Flick I'm not gonna end up in the grandstand :D

What sort of times are people putting in? I think my PB is currently 1:35-ish, I'd say I can get into the 1:34s though :scratchch

[evilpimp]

Honestly my choice of car depends on the start type now.
But tbh, u guys seem too scared of the other cars.. take the challenge n change a lil dnt always go for whats easier..

[GTR_Yuni]

Sticking to my roots in the XR GTR, of course, because the FXO and FZ GTR only require going reckless.

[dougie-lampkin]

I can't drive the FZR because I use 900 degrees rotation :schwitz:

The slightest touch of oversteer means me grabbing wildly at the wheel, which on a weak wooden desk is NOT good...ATM it wobbles and shakes when I drive the UF1 :D

[Fredthebest]

FXR all the way! :D

[evilpimp]

Should definetly be rolling start. Plus we have to spread the racers at the start cuz 3 wide at the T1 is going to be chaos for sure. NO DOUPT.

Rolling start will make it fair for everyone and also make us get less crashes.

[TAYLOR-MANIA]

:smileypul You reckon?

Surely by now the large majority of us should have learnt from the previous rounds, and how to cope in the first corner.
We managed okay in past rounds (with open-wheelers too) & there's plenty of run-off at Westhill Reverse T1 to escape any trouble.
I doubt there will be as much trouble as anticipated. I bet it will be the fast linking corners where people will try to pass & fail that will cause more problems throughout the race...

And do I need to mention what will happen behind the SC during the rolling start? Oh I do?
Okay - irregular SC speeds causing chain reactions throughout the field, subsequently cars will be hitting the car infront or darting to the side to avoid the car infront...then passing, re-passing & others trying to block that pass...erm, what else? Oh yeah, big gaps between the cars that will split the field into two or more groups...eradicating the theory that a rolling start will make it more fair.

You should sense my opinion on making this into a rolling start.
But whatever, it's up to Deko I guess...

[Stan]

Taylor makes a valid point about the rolling start.

It will just take one mid pack car to open up a gap, and that will pretty much ruin the race for every car behind them.

[evilpimp]

You realise your aloud to pass if someone is far from the pack and going slow O_O

But yeh I guess... iono... Standing start will give a dissadvantage to the RWD's...

*Edit* Whatever... I'll just use the FXR probably.

[Velocity.]

Enjoyed my first race last week:thumb:

Will be drivin FXR this week.

PB 1:33.86 so far:smileypul

[JO53PHS]

Enjoyed my first race last week:thumb:

Will be drivin FXR this week.

PB 1:33.86 so far:smileypul

Whats your in-game name? I don't remember a Velocity being there last week :scratchch.

And how come your name is neither on the Reserves list nor the Sign up list? So how did you manage to sign up without making a post?

Have you even signed up?

[dekojester]

Whats your in-game name? I don't remember a Velocity being there last week :scratchch.

And how come your name is neither on the Reserves list nor the Sign up list? So how did you manage to sign up without making a post?

Have you even signed up?

He was signed up via proxy...NtrlBrnRacer placed his name on the Reserve List.

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[JO53PHS]

He was signed up via proxy...NtrlBrnRacer placed his name on the Reserve List.

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ahh... NBR Velocity rings a bell :)

But.....


Reserve List__________________________________________

Reserve list open again.

We have 1 space for Rounds 3,5 and 8.

Please apply below like this:
LFS Username - In-Game Name - Rounds you wish to compete in.

See Calendar Discussion for calendar and dates.

Stefani24 - Stefan Alfons - All
Stam1na - Stam1na - All
Math1js - Math1js - All
agm_ultimatex - agm_ultimatex - all
Mutt107 - [SR] Mutt - all
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Its not my responsibility to update that! :D:schwitz::razz:

[dekojester]

ahh... NBR Velocity rings a bell :)

But.....

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Its not my responsibility to update that! :D:schwitz::razz:

Not mine either !

/me turns to look at J@tko. :thumb:

[Velocity.]

Thats right. NtrlBrnRacer signed me up.
Is there a problem?
Is there something i need to do?
I dnt want to miss out coz i`ve put alot of practice in now:weeping:
Any help would be great coz im an S2 Noob. LOL!:thumb:

[evilpimp]

Erm, can we know if its rolling start or standing start soon please.
It can change my car choice so please let us know as early as possible.

[J@tko]

Not mine either !

/me turns to look at J@tko. :thumb:

Who is this J@tko you speak of :scratchch

Thats right. NtrlBrnRacer signed me up.
Is there a problem?
Is there something i need to do?
I dnt want to miss out coz i`ve put alot of practice in now:weeping:
Any help would be great coz im an S2 Noob. LOL!:thumb:

Nope - your fine. Don't worry about it - hope to see you on Sunday.

Erm, can we know if its rolling start or standing start soon please.
It can change my car choice so please let us know as early as possible.

Almost certainly be rolling, unless I can't find an SC driver.

[evilpimp]

Cool, cool. Now if I make a car choice and it ends up not being rolling start I will haunt you every day of the week :D

[dekojester]

Cool, cool. Now if I make a car choice and it ends up not being rolling start I will haunt you every day of the week :D

Bah ! It's a long race. And surely you'll be able to make up places because of people spinning.

haha !

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[TAYLOR-MANIA]

"Boo!" to a rolling start! :thumbsdow

It's not really T1 safety that seems to be the concern here. Instead it is loosing a few measly metres when the lights go green. 20 laps with a pitstop...really, does a few metres make that much difference in a race 30 minutes long? I don't think so.

[J@tko]

"Boo!" to a rolling start! :thumbsdow

It's not really T1 safety that seems to be the concern here. Instead it is loosing a few measly metres when the lights go green. 20 laps with a pitstop...really, does a few metres make that much difference in a race 30 minutes long? I don't think so.

We're not doing it to even out the starts of the cars. It's cos:

Most endurance races start with a rolling start.
Cars will be more spread out coming into turn one.

[evilpimp]

Glad you took my point under consideration :D

However I still think ill use FXR :P Just because of the nudging and bumping there is sometimes :S

[dougie-lampkin]

That thing is impossible to spin out unless someone literally t-bones you :D

[evilpimp]

Easy to control with damage too :D

[mutt107]

Round 7 Information:

Course: Westhill Reverse
Cars: XRR FXR FZR
Laps: 20
Pit Stop Required, not before lap 2 is started and not after lap 18 is completed. Start and end is when YOU start and end the lap. Pit stalls will be assigned by championship position. First in championship will get stall #1, P2, #2.
Extra requirements: Please declare your intent to enter and which car you will be using by the start of Free Practice 2. Failure to do so by this time will result in you starting the race from the back of the grid. This is being done to expedite the pitlane stall assignment process.

Weekend Schedule:
FP1: 15 March 2008. 1900 GMT. 60 Minutes.
FP2: 15 March 2008. 2200 GMT. 60 Minutes.
FP3: 15 March 2008. 2400 GMT. 60 Minutes.
FP4: 16 March 2008. 1545 GMT. 45 Miuntes.
Qual: 16 March 2008. 1830 GMT. 20 Minutes.
Lag Start: 16 March 2007. 1856 GMT.
Race Start: 2 Minutes after completion of Lag start.

di got idea maby use the chalk to make numbers?? for the pits

[dougie-lampkin]

That may work, but chalk can sometimes be hard to read...which would cause uber-confusion :D

[Stan]

I'm going to Yorkshire on Friday to do the Three Peaks of Yorkshire walk on Saturday. I'm planning to try and travel back in time for the race and will use the FXR if I get back in time to make the race.

Wish me luck, the walk is going to be tough! Here's a link with some info about the challenge, just in case anyone is wondering what torture I will be putting myself through! :thumb:

http://www.walks4all.co.uk/3peaks/walks/yorkshire/walk.shtml

[Technique]

Stan that looks amazing! Have fun.

[evilpimp]

Nice have fun!

[Marlbro]

I'm going to Yorkshire on Friday to do the Three Peaks of Yorkshire walk on Saturday.
Nice one Stan...don't forget to put a rock on the stone pile at the top of Ingleborough...with mine :thumb:
You'll know what I mean when you get there...If it's still there :scratchch it's been a while.

[hyntty]

Ok... so here's a reasonable set for round 8 for fzr. It needs still a little fine tuning, and you'll probably need to adjust tyre pressures. Just drive it carefully, and don't chuck it in the corners....

Additionally, here's my skin too... Got a little too exited about Melnourne. It ain't pretty, but my motto is "keep it simple, keep it stupid."

[dekojester]

The race will be started with a rolling start.

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[TAYLOR-MANIA]

Erm, I just tried to join to put some laps in but the password has changed...?

[D_Moriarty]

Erm, I just tried to join to put some laps in but the password has changed...?

Same problem here... :(

[edit:] solved.

[J@tko]

Erm, I just tried to join to put some laps in but the password has changed...?

Same problem here... :(

Sorry guys - forgot to reset it after Kyoto 125.

If the normal pass doesn't work, try Kyoto 250 or Kyoto 500.

[JO53PHS]

Sorry guys - forgot to reset it after Kyoto 125.

If the normal pass doesn't work, try Kyoto 250 or Kyoto 500.

I changed it back to lfsbc :thumb:

[GTR_Yuni]

It's hard making a stable and fast setup for the XRR. But I don't care as you lot will spin at one point or another anyway.

[evilpimp]

Yuni, I doupt many people using the FXR will spin a lot tbh. It's very easy to control even on grass.

Good luck to all of you tomorow and remember to keep it clean!

[mutt107]

what time is the race is it the normal time or the time we used for the last race???

[dougie-lampkin]

The very first post at the top of the page, it's 18:30 qualifying...You even made that post!

I've just realised I won't be able to make it tonight...I'm going out for dinner, and I really, absolutely must go...I'm screwed if I don't :schwitz:

Good luck with the race guys :nod:

[Velocity.]

I have no Number:(
Have i been assigned one and if so what is it/where can i find it?
C you all tonite!:thumb:

[J@tko]

I have no Number:(
Have i been assigned one and if so what is it/where can i find it?
C you all tonite!:thumb:

Number 51

[Velocity.]

Number 51
Cheers:thumb: