Motivation suggestions

[danowat]

I'll make no bones about it, for various reasons I am struggling to find the motivation to "play" LFS, now I don't know if this is just a "jaded" cycle that will go away, or it's something thats running deeper, but I want to see if I can get out of the rut.

So basically, I am asking for ways that I can get "back" into LFS, because apart from a handfull of league races here and there, I haven't "played" it with any real conviction for a long time.

Or do I just bite the bullet a have a few months break from LFs to see if the motivation comes back on its own?

[aoun]

Sort of got the same feeling man. I get it often. But as soon as i watch racing, im dying to hop on to LFS. I guess im starting to get over LFS abit, i want to do the real thing. :)

[Kalev EST]

I haven´t played for months except for some sumo. And I don´t see myself returning to playing until new tracks(new, not the same old track with one new corner) are introduced to the game. And with the work pace and weird priorities of the devs that won´t happen for 5 years, if ever.

[danowat]

I don't really want this to turn into another, we need new cars/tracks debate, infact, I would probably get into trouble if I kicked off a big tirade about how I feel about the current development path.............

So, using the existing content, any way to get some motivation going.........

At the moment, if I have some time free, I am finding spending that time on Forza 2 much more fullfilling..........

[JeffR]

Either play some other games, or stop playing PC games altogether. The thrill is gone and you're basically burnt out. So are a lot of other racing game players that date back to GPL (1999), or even arcade players like NFS. I'm seeing pretty much a lack of interest in gaming in general. I wonder if wow attendance is also starting to taper off by now.

I'm recovering from a bad cold right now, and it's been a while since I played any games. The last 3 I played were non-racers, Crysis, Half Life - Episode 2 (since it leaves you hanging, I recommend waiting for Episode 3 which will complete the series and be mostly likely bundled with Half-Life and Episodes 1-2), and Tomb Raider Anniversary.

The last two racing games I played were Race 07, and NFS - ProStreet (which gets boring fast because the closed online play - no way to see who playing so the better players can match up, no way to change cars while with a group of players, and restricted to track / events at a single location).

I also played LFS offline and online a bit right after patch Y came out. As usual, other than ovals where luck and bumping play a factor, my only wins on tracks like Blackwood with the FOX occurred when the clearly faster players spun out and/or crashed. I played a couple of nights and lost interest, mostly because I'm currently simply not movitated enough to spend the time to improve my skills with any game.

I don't think this has anything to do with content of LFS. S3 could be released today, there'd would be some initial interest, but the burnout factor from playing racing games for years now is an issue for many.

[danowat]

You might be right with the burnout thing, maybe thats why I prefer sitting in my lounge, on my comfy leather recliners playing Forza on my 40" HD TV.........

Rather than sitting in my study on my PC..........

[eight8acht]

I'm playing LFS since 2003 mostly all days and it didn't get boring too me. I played some leagues before and when it get boring i changed league or now i stopped all until the new Swiss National Team is set up and read to take some leagues. At the mom i do most of the time just cruis eon my friends cruise server. I like it 'cause it's something diffrent. Probably you should start doing something else liek cruising, drifting or drag racing!

[wsinda]

Danowat, why do you ask this question? What makes you "want to enjoy" playing LFS more than it actually does?

Do you feel you owe it to anybody to keep on playing?
Do you miss the times when LFS was a big thrill?

It's your own time. Do what gives you the most fun/fulfillment.

[danowat]

Danowat, why do you ask this question? What makes you "want to enjoy" playing LFS more than it actually does?

Do you feel you owe it to anybody to keep on playing?
Do you miss the times when LFS was a big thrill?

It's your own time. Do what gives you the most fun/fulfillment.

Good question, VERY good question infact, I'll try and answer.....

I guess I just miss the good times, that and the commitment I have to my team makes me want to enjoy it like I used to.

[xaotik]

Yeah it's time to pause and think - if what you do for fun isn't fun then there's really no point in pressuring it to be fun because then it's a chore. If the itch to play comes, then it comes - otherwise, what's the rush?

Looking at your stats, you've obviously played LFS (online at least) quite a bit. So it's only reasonable if you did so on a day-to-day basis that at some point you'll be feeling saturated.

[Dajmin]

I'm in the same boat. I have to agree that it is burnout.
Here's a question for you - how much time do you spend on the forums compared to in-game? Sometimes I've wondered if I've no real inclination to play LFS because I spend all day on here watching people ask for stuff that we don't have, or complaining about the stuff we do. None of that is gonna make you want to take part.

But then on Sunday night my little brother talked me into playing a bit and I had good fun just doing endless practice laps on SO Chicane with him. He's a little better than me, but not quite as much as the general population so I didn't feel completely useless - which I think is another potential turn-off.

Also, it might be that you're finding the console's pick-up-and-play system easier than having to plug in a wheel and the like. I'm a lazy bugger as well :)

But this isn't specific to LFS. I sometimes don't feel like playing any specific game for ages, then all of a sudden something will happen or I'll just change my mind and suddenly I'll be all over it again.

[danowat]

I guess, because it's easier to browse forums at work, rather than play LFS ;), I spend more, much more time, on the forums than LFS.

[AndroidXP]

I'm in the same boat. I have to agree that it is burnout.+1

[STROBE]

I guess, because it's easier to browse forums at work, rather than play LFS ;), I spend more, much more time, on the forums than LFS.
Shhhh! We're supposed to be working. :hide:

I know exactly how you feel though. I wish I felt more attraction to LFS right now. It's easy to hop on the forums during work time, but in my own time I never get round to playing it. There's always something more tempting/important to do, like another game or going to the gym or doing chores or going out or doing photography.

*subscribes to thread to get motivation suggestions too*

[Hyperactive]

- I started making a track for rfactor :tilt:
- I'm trying to get my GPL 'ring time under 8 mins (just need few more laps, it is basically done)
- playing Fallout2 through
- design my own track day car (2% ready already lol)

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Basically the only thing I'm waiting from LFS now is the next masterskinnerz contest. Other than that I can't think of any LFS fun atm... except the forums and even then it is the stuff you should do but never get done...

[Vain]

I'll skip the burnt-out discussion and go for the suggestions.
Recently I found it quite enjoyable to reset my mindscape for an evening, ignore the result-centered league-racing and go to some random servers and play. Sure, you get bumped off the track every third race but the rest is a lot of door-to-door racing because neither you nor your competitors know the combination well. I've also found it fun to toy around with the clutch-pedal, 720° rotation and the H-gate shifter for that purpose.

The whole point, I guess, is to treat LFS as a just-for-fun arcade-racer instead of focussing on positions and championship points because, let's be honest, those achievements have lost their attractivity long ago.

Vain

[danowat]

I've also found it fun to toy around with the clutch-pedal, 720° rotation and the H-gate shifter for that purpose.

Funny you should mention that, I was thinking the same on my way into work this morning.

I was toying with the idea of going clutch/h-gate only for a while and relish the challenge, rather than "trying" to win all the time, nice idea.

[AndroidXP]

Does that mean you were not using clutch/H-gate all the time?

:bananadea

[danowat]

It indeed does mean that, I am lazy ;)

[thisnameistaken]

I was toying with the idea of going clutch/h-gate only for a while and relish the challenge, rather than "trying" to win all the time,
Does that mean you were not using clutch/H-gate all the time?


You mean you were trying to win? :p

My advice: Go do something else. I'm currently doing a couple of something elses and so far I haven't missed computer games at all.

[danowat]

Yup, summer is coming, bike weather, and I am finding my training taking up more and more of my time :)

[thisnameistaken]

I am finding my training taking up more and more of my time :)

Wow, can you nearly use the potty now? You're a clever boy!

:p

Haven't had my second coffee yet this morning, excuse me.

[danowat]

Wow, can you nearly use the potty now? You're a clever boy!

Getting there :nod:

[Gentlefoot]

I'm dying to play at the moment but simply don't have time right now. Before when I had time and I'd been playing regularly I was losing the motivation but now I can't play I'm well up for it lol.

Want to turn some laps at some point today. I'm ill with a cold so think I should treat myself if I get a chance today :)

[RudiTurbo]

I've been like this for like 2 years now :P Just whenever a league comes , I drive , I dont push myself into practice, but I just go and drive and have fun, sometimes I still practice too if the combo is nice :)

Sometimes when there is no league, then I dont get behind the wheel for over a month. But still, LFSWorld is my homepage of my browser and I got a FXO on my desktop :P

I've been to LFS for over 4.5 years and I'm going to be 20 in a month, that pretty much means, LFS has been here for a quarter of my life :D It will always be part of my life, doesnt matter if I'm active or not. Just drive when You feel like it and that's it. There's plenty going on concerning LFS off the tracks also(forums etc).

My idle will prolly end when the S2 Full is rdy and the Nutter rank is waiting for me :D

[The Very End]

As you say Dano, I`m struggeling myself to find motivation to play the game. Of course I can take a pick-up race here and there, but to enjoy the game more than 15 minutes is hard now. I`m tired of all the old combo`s and cars, I need something fresh.

Of course we can arguing about this, because we did get a new car, and a new track-layout, but heres why I don`t like it, or I like it but it doesn`t increase the lifespan of the game :

1 - A new config, sure it`s nice, but come on. We have only like..how many tracks, low, but with many configs. Configs are borring in the long run, there should be more tracks like westhill, that adds something completely new, and not about a mixture of corners on an allready in-game track.

2 - The new car. Sure it`s nice and all that, but we have seen it before. We need something completely new, nothing seen in the game before. 4 formula cars now is enough, and imo we need something like a rallycross pack, that was discussed earlier. It would add something completely new, and specially when it comes to the car selection part.

I still enjoy the game, but only every now and then, but I usually feels that the game is bournt out, it needs something completely new, or we will lose a good bounch of veterans soon.

[_--NZ--_[HUN]]

It will always be part of my life, doesnt matter if I'm active or not.

QFT!

Right now I'm busy with other LFS related things like making a sound pack, a video and the second version of my H-shifter, after these are complete I think I'll have motivation to continue racing.

[teaz-R]

Get into the car you like least and learn to set it up and drive it fast. That's helped me over some inactive periods.

[spankmeyer]

Blame yourself (and those of us who participated) that RSC raised the bar quite a bit.

You got rFactor? Join us for a round around the Shire.

[P1lot]

Make no mistake, LFS takes effort. You have to concentrate to drive competatively, relative to pick-up-and-play console games.

When I want more interest in LFS, I join a league - but Road Sport Winter Cup has ended now :(
...but this is forcing you to practice/race regardless of whether you wanted it

[nihil]

Things people do when they get bored:

Make paper planes and throw them out of a space shuttle (http://www.pinktentacle.com/2008/01/origami-spaceplane-to-launch-from-space-station/)

Open source car design (http://www.theoscarproject.org/)

Get yourself a GPL 66 mod rank (http://1966gpl.speedgeezers.net/)

Organise a midnight rideout with some complete strangers and thrash around unknown roads... In the dark... (http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=biker+forums+uk&meta=)

Sex... I'm sure you can find your own links...

Really if LFS is not doing it, then best to let it lie... Though you might try designing some autoX courses; they're the only reason I still have LFS on my computer at the moment.

[r4ptor]

Bithslap yourself, or better yet - find someone to bitchslap you till you come to your senses.

[FlintFredstone]

Didnt play much at all the 2nd half of last year, then i started driving cars i wouldnt normally, the xfg using the shifter (and having good if not comical races with tristan doing the same) then getting to grips with my nemisis the xrg, and finally learning how to setup and drive the fbm, i was strugling greatly with it as i was trying to set it up and drive it like a fox.

So my advise is try and master something that you struggle with or dont do normally

Simon

[thisnameistaken]

Bithslap yourself, or better yet - find someone to bitchslap you till you come to your senses.

I'd be happy to help out. What are friends for, eh? :D

[mrodgers]

Or do I just bite the bullet a have a few months break from LFs to see if the motivation comes back on its own?
Bite the bullet. You will have the motivation come back to you after a month or so.

I end up with an hour or 2 a night for "me time". I bought a new camera, so I am into that. I flight sim, though that has gone the way of LFS as well.

Every other night is a hockey game to watch, which takes up the entire evening.

I started doing some weight lifting, so that takes an hour. After that, I don't want to lift my arms to the wheel to race.

I am getting the feeling to get back into some hockey gaming with the NHL playoffs on the horizon.

But, mostly, since I still frequently visit this forum, the flight sim forum, the hockey forum, and now have 2 photography forums to view, that's about all I do on the computer anymore. Forums and post-processing any photos that I've taken takes up more than my hour or two that I have.

[W1ldPort75]

The thing i do is watch some race videos http://videos.streetfire.net/search/touge/0/e66a1e3c-d9e9-4c85-b4de-2cdfe6230fa7.htm like perhaps this one . I know it has nothing to do with LFS but i still enjoy it and then i feel like driving :shrug:

[Breizh]

I'll make no bones about it, for various reasons I am struggling to find the motivation to "play" LFS, now I don't know if this is just a "jaded" cycle that will go away, or it's something thats running deeper, but I want to see if I can get out of the rut.

So basically, I am asking for ways that I can get "back" into LFS, because apart from a handfull of league races here and there, I haven't "played" it with any real conviction for a long time.

Or do I just bite the bullet a have a few months break from LFs to see if the motivation comes back on its own?
Just take a break... LFS'll still be around. More likely improved than not by the time you come back, too.

[rcpilot]

Just step away from it a bit, LFS isn't your life. :P I get very burnt out at the end of every league season considering that's ~80% practice/20% racing and for the couple months in between major leagues I usually rarely touch LFS.

[thisnameistaken]

Be aware though that you'll suck when you come back. I get beaten by everybody now.

Too obvious, don't even bother. :P

[aoun]

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/9b2495cc-413a-49ab-909e-980a003e5f46.htm


Maybe do some of this while playing LFS. :D :D

[Racer556]

lol :D
do somethin won't let you play LFS. Like me atm, my wheel is unplugged, I ain't got where to put my pedals... i was taking a break but now I'm so ancious to play!!! and I ain't got the materials for making a good support for my pedals! RBR and LFS are awaiting!!! :x

[Zachary Zoomy]

get some new textures, skins ect. and try a new combo, always helps me. try a new style of server. perhaps :)

[Riders Motion]

For some reason I am like this too since a couple of months. LFS had something new in December, but it wasn't what I was expecting. I started playing less, do new things. I made new *real life* friends and figured out life if much better than LFS. It has no lag and no on voteban you when you are faster than him/her. I'm still playing LFS a good hour a day, but not taking it any serious. I also entered a drifting competition this saturday, and have seen a lot of peoples training hard this week. I know I won't win because I'm not as good as I was before my 'depression' so I know it's not worth training like a mad. I'll just go there for fun and might lighten the flame that's dead since July.

[Stefani24]

I think u should just try cruising or drifting. Maybe then suddenly the want of racing takes u again.

[RudiTurbo]

Sex... I'm sure you can find your own links...




This is actually a very hard one, can You find links for me? :D

[Hyperactive]

This is actually a very hard one, can You find links for me? :D

Is that a hidden dirty joke?

[mutt107]

i havent been playing much either... :(

[BlackEye]

Just take a breake from LFS a little Dan :)

Your motivation will come when new cockpits are released :nod:

[shiny_red_cobra]

And we've been told that these "new cockpits" are coming for how many years now???

[Boris Lozac]

And we've been told that these "new cockpits" are coming for how many years now???

I remember i was hoping for them in the "P" patch (i think it's P, the one with BMW Sauber F1) :D but hey, better get them in the quality of FBM cockpit...

[BlackEye]

AFAIK new cockpits were officially announced only for Y patch. All those before were community speculation etc.

Could be wrong but I think I'm not :)

[aoun]

Correct, but i think it was officially announced that the new interiors would be released next patch. Correct me if im wrong. :)

[BlackEye]

That's true. Eric didn't finished them for Y becouse FBM deal came out of nowhere so to speak. Scawen said cockipts will be released ASAP :)

Guess they will come when Scawen figures out Vista bug with multi bite characters or something in those lines (this is community speculation for those who can't spot one ;) )

[bbman]

Guess they will come when Scawen figures out Vista bug with multi bite characters or something in those lines (this is community speculation for those who can't spot one ;) )

Most unlikely, it would make that patch incompatible, thus he'll be waiting for other incompatible changes to be released with the cockpits...

[Luke.S]

That's true. Eric didn't finished them for Y becouse FBM deal came out of nowhere so to speak. Scawen said cockipts will be released ASAP :)

Guess they will come when Scawen figures out Vista bug with multi bite characters or something in those lines (this is community speculation for those who can't spot one ;) )

Vista bugs. I have vista and LFS runs perfect

[Boris Lozac]

Vista bugs. I have vista and LFS runs perfect

Good for you, read more carefully and you'll see that there is a bug with some language codes, not Vista in general.. :tilt:

[Luke.S]

Okii.

[BlackEye]

Most unlikely, it would make that patch incompatible, thus he'll be waiting for other incompatible changes to be released with the cockpits...

Well yes, but hotlaps don't need to be reseted for cockpits to be included (I guess) so it's not big of a issue to be a incompatible patch.

[Boris Lozac]

Well yes, but hotlaps don't need to be reseted for cockpits to be included (I guess) so it's not big of a issue to be a incompatible patch.

I sure hope so, but i think that it's been said that HL's are dependant on the cokcpits unfortunately :shrug:

[OmarA]

Get a mountain bike! It's as close as I can get to motor racing for such a small budget and bloody good fun. Then there's the sudden influx of fresh air and fitness to get used to.

Oh yeah and set up is important - tyres, brakes, gears etc all make a different and you spend your time managing the transfer of your weight, same as cars really :)

As an aside: does anybody know whether there are basic set up servers, e.g. force everyone to use RACE_S? I don't have the time to tinker with set ups and am not that keen on nicking them from others. As it is I tend to race in the midfield trying to be consistent, but never particularly racing with anybody.

[JamesF1]

You might be right with the burnout thing, maybe thats why I prefer sitting in my lounge, on my comfy leather recliners playing Forza on my 40" HD TV.........

Rather than sitting in my study on my PC..........

Dan, the same thing has been happening to me for the past year or so - other tasks are becoming far more fulfilling.

Sim-racing for me has grown tiresome, and I (as you do, too, it seems) just enjoy some casual gaming, or sitting around doing nothing, chilling, watching a movie, doing some code, or something like that.

Take the time, relax, forget about LFS for a while - until you have the passion return. It's the approach I always take to 'game burnout'. But I find, the longer you keep pushing yourself, the longer the 'recovery' period lasts.

[Gnomie]

I sure hope so, but i think that it's been said that HL's are dependant on the cokcpits unfortunately :shrug:
I never understood why people are so over the moon about new cockpits. Isn't it just a graphical update of the interior of the cars? There are plenty of user-made nice ones already.. am I missing something? :really:

Anyway, I think driving weird combos, learning cars you never liked (RAC seems to be commonly mentioned) or having a go at drifting might be a good idea. :)

[richo]

Too much of the same thing is not good for anyone , and LFS has been too much of the same thing for far to long.

Especially when it comes to tracks,that's tracks not a new combo but an actual new location .

It could do with the vapor ware rally pack or a completely new class of car .

I appreciate the way the Devs work and the small (really small) staff and i understand why it takes so long to produce new content ,but you can only play with the same toys for so long before anyone is bored to death with them.

That said playing LFS with the new Tweak is alot of fun, RB4 3300 6cyl @550hp certainly makes it come alive :)

[Kid222]

My motivation lies all in league racing - to win something, or at least do my best. Fun of racing has gone long time ago. But (yes, has been written xxxx times ago) because lack of content, it has become very boring and hard to even motivate myself to doubleclick LFS.exe.
Right now i'm doing team management for Czech rep. in World Series. That will keep me close to LFS until this league is finished (at least i hope so). But if something BIG will not come, then i'm thinking about break.

[danowat]

Get a mountain bike! It's as close as I can get to motor racing for such a small budget and bloody good fun. Then there's the sudden influx of fresh air and fitness to get used to.

Oh yeah and set up is important - tyres, brakes, gears etc all make a different and you spend your time managing the transfer of your weight, same as cars really :)

As an aside: does anybody know whether there are basic set up servers, e.g. force everyone to use RACE_S? I don't have the time to tinker with set ups and am not that keen on nicking them from others. As it is I tend to race in the midfield trying to be consistent, but never particularly racing with anybody.

I don't need a mountain bike, I have a fooking great motorbike :D, plus running keeps me as fit as I need to :thumb:

As for the forced server setups, yes, this would be one of the options that would keep LFS fresh for me, but small things like that get ignored for the sake of stuff like asian character sets, go figure.......

[nihil]

As for the forced server setups, yes, this would be one of the options that would keep LFS fresh for me, ...

Not a fan of this idea. Setups have two reasons for existing (IMHO...): to make the car more predictable and comfortable for an individual's driving style; to shave tenths off your lap times. They're not going to turn you from a mid-fielder into a leader.

But as I say, that's just my opinion. From past debates, its obvious there are a lot of people who disagree, so why not 'organise'. Password a server (so that you can rely on each other to use the required set and not worry about interlopers who don't get the idea), and run a series.

Why wait for it to be 'forced', especially if its the one thing that might liven up the racing for you?

[danowat]

Because currently, you just can't easily do it, private server or not.

[three_jump]

I don't like the idea of fully forced setups either, but when a few basic tweaks would be allowed (basicly all you can change in f11/f12) it could be very cool to have a few races.

About the motivation thing: when you have too much time you get bored a lot more often... I would really like to drive more but just have not the time :(

[The Very End]

I don't like the idea of fully forced setups either, but when a few basic tweaks would be allowed (basicly all you can change in f11/f12) it could be very cool to have a few races.

About the motivation thing: when you have too much time you get bored a lot more often... I would really like to drive more but just have not the time :(

Sorry for going off topic, but why don`t you like that forced setups thingy? It`s a great idea to have everyone racing the same set, it proves what the driver is capeable to compared with the others.

[nihil]

Because currently, you just can't easily do it, private server or not.

You mean it isn't just a case of getting some like minded people together and agreeing on a setup, agreeing on a race time, and racing?

I can't see how its more complicated than that.

That's basically what happened for the LFS gathering at Drivers Challenge. All it requires is an organiser (cheers Ben...), and I know how much time it can take up (having organised a ten week season of challenges in Racer), but its a simple exercise.

[HVS5b]

I was toying with the idea of going clutch/h-gate only for a while and relish the challenge, rather than "trying" to win all the time, nice idea.

Does that mean you were not using clutch/H-gate all the time?

It indeed does mean that, I am lazy ;)

That sounds like a pretty good answer to some of the issues?

I know it is more of a regurgetation of the game as compared to anything new, but it's a pretty difficult learning to be fast and consistent with a 'full' set up to work with.

I am certainly neither of these things, but am enjoying the challenge massively (until my h-shifter breaks, no doubt!) despite not always being competitive at the front end of the grid.

Good luck in your quest anyway :thumb:

ps - seems to be quite a few people agreeing with your sentiments, who don't have that many miles under their belt. I struggle to see how anyone with less than 50k miles could be close to burnt out!

[three_jump]

Sorry for going off topic, but why don`t you like that forced setups thingy? It`s a great idea to have everyone racing the same set, it proves what the driver is capeable to compared with the others.

In my opinion it just shows that drivers have different driving styles so some can handle it better than others. Use a different set and others will be faster (On the basis of having equal drivers, might not work with alien drivers). It's just the luck of getting a set that suits your driving style.

Truth is that there is no perfect setup for one track, you can only try to do the perfect setup for yourself.

[kaynd]

Most have already said that.
Don’t think about it. If you are bored take a brake.
A good motivation may be the progress of your team, some league races etc.
Till the end of 2007 my connection was useless and I couldnl't race online not even in 10car grids... my only motivation to continue playing was setup making for my teammates...

I know I will play LFS as long it exists. So I am not worried if I stop playing for a month or so. (which I do regularly)
Its live for speed not loose your real life for speed.

[Mattesa]

Or do I just bite the bullet a have a few months break from LFs to see if the motivation comes back on its own?

I say step away, and step away completely. Including not visiting the form. Don't set yourself a time frame for "coming back", but instead pick it up again whenever it happens to interest you.

I get these fits of jadedness all the time. "I'm so damn sick of thinking about cars", and then I move onto something else like airplanes or digital arts or whatever. Gotta take breaks.

[Ball Bearing Turbo]

I'll make no bones about it, for various reasons I am struggling to find the motivation to "play" LFS, now I don't know if this is just a "jaded" cycle that will go away, or it's something thats running deeper, but I want to see if I can get out of the rut.

So basically, I am asking for ways that I can get "back" into LFS, because apart from a handfull of league races here and there, I haven't "played" it with any real conviction for a long time.

Or do I just bite the bullet a have a few months break from LFs to see if the motivation comes back on its own?

I guess it's just the time involved, and it's probably different things for different people. I just can't be bothered anymore, I've been driving the sim with the "most potential" for a long time and very little of that potential is being realized. But thankfully every dialect of every language ever invented since human speech first occurred can share that experience! I will warn you though the longer the break you take, the less you'll be motived to come back because you will transform into teh suck.

I wonder if wow attendance is also starting to taper off by now.

No, they've passed 10 million active subscribers a couple months ago. Of course, it is a lot more of a dyanmic experience than driving a circuit, has massive content that's constantly updated, and has a budget of millions so it's not too surprizing.

I'd be happy to help out. What are friends for, eh? :D

Canadian? :D

[Gnomie]

(...) But thankfully every dialect of every language ever invented since human speech first occurred can share that experience!
Personally I think the Asian translations were a great idea. If LFS is to be able to keep growing, they need as large a user base as possible. Since the % of the population that are interested in a serious driving sim is naturally low, that means the devs have to try to reach out to everyone. And Asia is a huge (and growing) market for computer games. So in the long run, the translations might generate the income which will fuel future expansions. :thumb:

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I agree on the suggestion to try using the H-shifter, and also 720 degrees of rotation (if you're not doing that already). Adds a LOT to the experience. In addition, it might be worth trying out FreeTrack or similar software for head tracking. I've tried it, and I can tell you it will most definitely take some practice getting used to it. Certainly a challenge!

[migf1]

I'm affraid I'm getting on dan's boat too. Since a month or so I'm having trouble getting motivation to race LFS. I do it occasionally but I don't get joy out of it (or at least not the joy I used to get out of it).

I was waiting for OLFSL to announce their calendar, hoping to get my motivation back, but the hope was put out as soon as I read LX6's in SO, LX4's in rallycorss and FZ5's+RAC's in FE. I'm burnt out I guess and "sadistic" combos don't really help me out a lot :D

For a while I have kinda switched to rfactor, mostly because I can race on some well implemented real-life tracks, legendary tracks like Nordschleife, Monza, Watkins Glen, Laguna Seca, etc. rFactor's physics are a bit of a joke and forcefeedback is even worse, but I'm honestly fed up doing Astons, Blackwoods and Westhills :shrug:

Ultimately I would really love to be able to follow online real life championships (like F1 or DTM or whatever) as they happen but in a sim with decent physics. That would give me long term motivation.

For now I'm sticking mostly to rFactor, without leaving LFS of cource (I may even participate in a few OLFSL races) hoping that I will miss racing on LFS tracks sooner than I think :)

[thisnameistaken]

Canadian? :D

You stole our eh.

Incidentally: This (http://teop.org/media/board.jpg) is where my motivation went. Excuse the mess - I re-jigged it in a much tidier way tonight and started velcro-ing stuff down, it looks much more businesslike now. :)

[dawesdust_12]

You stole our eh.

Incidentally: This (http://www.lfsforum.net/teop.org/media/board.jpg) is where my motivation went. Excuse the mess - I re-jigged it in a much tidier way tonight and started velcro-ing stuff down, it looks much more businesslike now. :)

Kev, learn how to make links! :p

[thisnameistaken]

Whoops...

You're just jealous cos I've got a Big Muff.

[robt]

nice set of pedals. someone had some spare cash to aquire all that lot :razz:

[thisnameistaken]

nice set of pedals. someone had some spare cash to aquire all that lot :razz:

I bought the lot used (well, nearly all of them) so it could've been worse.

There are a couple more not pictured that I think I'm going to sell on (an MXR Bass Auto-Q and an MXR Phase 90), and I might get rid of the LS-2 if I can add a blend circuit to the Muff, and I might be able to swap out the A/B box for a single looper if I can do a true bypass mod on the bass synth.

The chorus might go too - I'm waiting for my new fretless to arrive to see how it sounds with that, but at the moment I don't really turn it on ever. And the tracking on the OC-2 is pretty awful so I might get rid of that and just use the octave voices on the bass synth.

But if I do sell those I'm buying a MOOG ring modulator (http://www.audiopro.si/Data/img/37032110.jpg), and maybe a Bass MURF (http://img3.musiciansfriend.com/dbase/pics/products/regular/8/2/3/468823.jpg) - you can never have too many filters :D

Bless MOOG. Have you see the FreqBox (http://www.sonicstate.com/news/shownews.cfm?newsid=4504)? Now that thing's mental.

[robt]

that fregbox is crazy!
My guitar is in pieces atm, putting new pots in but they didnt fit the new pickguard someone made me, they used a squier template :x and my old pickguard needs the holes for the pots drilled out a few mm.just havent got the drillbit. also have a very cheap amp someone gave me it was that bad:( least ive got my boss DS-2 to make up for a bit of the distortion effect.

[Macfox]

I don't need a mountain bike, I have a fooking great motorbike :D, plus running keeps me as fit as I need to :thumb:

As for the forced server setups, yes, this would be one of the options that would keep LFS fresh for me, but small things like that get ignored for the sake of stuff like asian character sets, go figure.......

+1

Definitely not for every server, but generally closer races result with fixed setups...Well so I've found.

We have /fcv which is very similar in many respects, so why we've been waiting for this option for so long is frustrating to say the least.

I guess the asian character sets open up more sales opportunity for less coding time, but a significant time has past since we got a real update with content and as much as I love LFS, this sentiment seems to be growing.

The most frustrating part is, that here in Australia, the only time you get numbers in servers is when a new patch is released and how long that lasts, very much depends on the size of the update. I can't recall the last time I seen a full server (non-league/comp.) in Australasia sadly.