Round 5 Pre-Discussion

[dekojester]

Round 5 of the Inagural Live for Speed Beginner's Cup takes us to Kyoto National for 10 laps in the FOX.

Race is Sunday, 2 March at 1900.

Commit to it here !

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[dougie-lampkin]

Should be a good race, lots of tight high speed corners! LFSBC style baby!!

[J@tko]

I thought I sucked in single-seaters. Just done my first lap on the combo, and it was great. 1.44.8

Could have gone faster second lap, but I span :shrug:

Amazingly, looking forward to it.

[pacesetter]

Cant wait its gonna be a whole different ball-game.


:thumb:

[TAYLOR-MANIA]

I'm looking forward to the next two rounds. I prefer singleseaters.
I've drove the combo before...13 laps - 42:66 so far :)

[J@tko]

I've drove the combo before...13 laps - 42:66 so far :)

??????? :(

Oh dear.

[evilpimp]

I dont usually drive single seaters much so this'll be a challenge :)

[juurme]

Like the FOX but i dont like the track at all :/
Well first 3 laps on track were 1.45.00 but i can get probly 1.40-1.42

[TG44]

I like foxes. and i like kyoto national.

but combined i don't like either one. i like foxes in Blackwood and South city while i like kyoto national as reversed with an XRT :D

[hyntty]

Well Ky2 is stupid becase of it's oval part... There's no need for an Indianapolis-wannabe-copy. It's either an oval, or a real track. It can't be both.

[JO53PHS]

Well Ky2 is stupid becase of it's oval part... There's no need for an Indianapolis-wannabe-copy. It's either an oval, or a real track. It can't be both.

Well It can be, really, AFAIK Rockingham (:)) is a so called Indianapolis-wannabe-copy :shrug:

Although I must admit I don't like the half oval, half track idea too much.

[mutt107]

oval part could be your only chance top win cus if your right behind someone in oval part you get a high speed draft and boom photo finish :))

[dekojester]

Also, I may bump the FPs to Friday, as I might be going out of town for the say on Saturday.

They would be at the 1900 GMT or after times.

Are there any issues with this ?

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[kABLiuks]

SC and RC, please use 4x4 cars, because there is a lot of sand, and while rescuing, you have to be very smooth and gentle, coz formulas are sooooo damage-freindly....

[juurme]

Do somebody use the team inferno setu field setup?Idk i get 1.43 hardly mostly 1.45....And i use blackwood setup atm :/
And how much speed to u get at the long straight?I get 222 km/h max and its quite...bad o.o

[kABLiuks]

by all means, im gonna suck in this round... me + single seater = granny on bike

[juurme]

I'm looking forward to the next two rounds. I prefer singleseaters.
I've drove the combo before...13 laps - 42:66 so far :)
Do you use the teaminferno setup field setup? If yes then wich one?

[J@tko]

Also, I may bump the FPs to Friday, as I might be going out of town for the say on Saturday.

They would be at the 1900 GMT or after times.

Are there any issues with this ?

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I'll admin the Saturday afternoon slot if you want.

[hyntty]

Do you use the teaminferno setup field setup? If yes then wich one?

If I recall correctly there are three setups for ky2, so you could test them all. Thou I've got one (think it's the latest one) and I can't recommend it. It's too understeering.

[dougie-lampkin]

Yes, it would be good if it could be held on Saturday as normal...

[J@tko]

Taylor's just done a 1.41.6. We're all dead again. :(

EDIT: And so has Hyntty.

[dougie-lampkin]

?? WR is 1:39 lol...again I return to the "Not beginners" theory :schwitz:

[TAYLOR-MANIA]

And just what defines 'a beginner'?
I got S2 late last year, November sometime. When the applications were open that's one of the criteria people were being accepted by, the time that they've had S2...
On the other hand, there are players who've been licensed for a long time but would only drift or cruise, and are now looking towards league racing...so they may have good knowledge of the cars & tracks.
Also I take full advantage of the Free Practices, some don't. Some just turn up for qualy with very little practice under their belt or none atall! And it's usually quite clear who has & who hasn't. For R3 I done over 200 laps in the FPs & I won. R4 I done over 100 laps & came 2nd.
Is it our fault we're fast learners? Or that we practice for the race?

[J@tko]

And just what defines 'a beginner'?
I got S2 late last year, November sometime. When the applications were open that's one of the criteria people were being accepted by, the time that they've had S2...
On the other hand, there are players who've been licensed for a long time but would only drift or cruise, and are now looking towards league racing...so they may have good knowledge of the cars & tracks.
Also I take full advantage of the Free Practices, some don't. Some just turn up for qualy with very little practice under their belt or none atall! And it's usually quite clear who has & who hasn't. For R3 I done over 200 laps in the FPs & I won. R4 I done over 100 laps & came 2nd.
Is it our fault we're fast learners? Or that we practice for the race?

Exactly. Some people are naturally fast round some combos. For example, on the UF-BR/FE GR/CTRA layout, I'm 0.3 secs of the WR.

That's about the only combo I'm really fast at. I'm pretty quick at XFG/BL1, but that's after around 6 months of practice. :)

[dougie-lampkin]

I know that you can be exceptionally fast on certain combos, but I did think that even the fastest person would be at least 5 secs of WR in most combos...

[J@tko]

I know that you can be exceptionally fast on certain combos, but I did think that even the fastest person would be at least 5 secs of WR in most combos...

I predicted that most people would be running at around 105% of WR pace. For this track, 105% is 1.44.77

[JO53PHS]

And just what defines 'a beginner'?
I got S2 late last year, November sometime. When the applications were open that's one of the criteria people were being accepted by, the time that they've had S2...
On the other hand, there are players who've been licensed for a long time but would only drift or cruise, and are now looking towards league racing...so they may have good knowledge of the cars & tracks.
Also I take full advantage of the Free Practices, some don't. Some just turn up for qualy with very little practice under their belt or none atall! And it's usually quite clear who has & who hasn't. For R3 I done over 200 laps in the FPs & I won. R4 I done over 100 laps & came 2nd.
Is it our fault we're fast learners? Or that we practice for the race?

Hmm... I did about 250 laps of practice and I still did bad lol :D

Maybe I'm just naturally slow

My claim to fame: 1 second off the UF-BR/FE club WR :schwitz:

Yes I know thats crap :tilt:

I predicted that most people would be running at around 105% of WR pace. For this track, 105% is 1.44.77

You're clever :)

[dougie-lampkin]

Yes, that's my kind of time, 1:44 - 1:45...

[J@tko]

You're clever :)

I use a calculator. :razz:

[juurme]

Am i the only one whos wheels are burning fast ? :really:
And i got now 1.41-1.43 with the lil practice ;)

[J@tko]

Am i the only one whos wheels are burning fast ? :really:


You're using R1 tyres.

Put some R2s on.

[dougie-lampkin]

My times are hitting around the 1:46, so that'll do me :schwitz:

[TG44]

well after the last race i drew a couple of laps and got a PB of 1:47.26 :schwitz:

[kABLiuks]

1:43.9 in a loosy setup wich in a straight does max 225kmh...

[dougie-lampkin]

I do max 222 :D

[evilpimp]

I do 130 kmh max and I got a 1:43.1 yesterday in my second timed lap :D

[dougie-lampkin]

You do 130??? Monster!

[evilpimp]

Lol its one of those inferno sets O_O

O now that i think of it its one of the OLD inferno sets O_O maybe I should upgrade the set too lol

[dougie-lampkin]

hmm, I could "dispose" of it for you :scratchch ;)

[evilpimp]

Got the one that says it lasts 35 laps.. better not be a lie =_=

[dougie-lampkin]

lol its a 7 lap race isn't it??

[evilpimp]

yeh.. Easier to tweak a set to burn more rubber though :D

Whatever i cant even test it today cuz of homework. Tomorow I have volleyball practice, thursday I have some thingy for school till 9 pm and friday I have a ski trip with the school O_O NO TIME TO PRACTICE :(

[Technique]

NO TIME TO PRACTICE :(

welcome to my world! :)

I should be able to practice Friday night if I give away my only free weeknight - before then is doubtful :(

[JO53PHS]

yeh.. Easier to tweak a set to burn more rubber though :D

Whatever i cant even test it today cuz of homework. Tomorow I have volleyball practice, thursday I have some thingy for school till 9 pm and friday I have a ski trip with the school O_O NO TIME TO PRACTICE :(

It must be a very short ski trip if you will be back in time for the race :scratchch

Hang on... Is it snowing in Canada... aah I see you just step out the door and go skiiing :D

[evilpimp]

Hang on... Is it snowing in Canada... aah I see you just step out the door and go skiiing :D


ROFL !!!

Bah the mountains actually 40 mins away by bus so we leave school at 9 be there at around 9:40 - 10 should be ready to skii.

Then we finish again at 5:30 get ready n all and at 6 take buss n get back to school at 7 :P

Its not really far and its all friday..

[evilpimp]

Sry for double post but its important :P

I cant make it to the race sunday cuz I have volleyball practice at 1pm and race starts at 2 :S

I will be at the practice sessions though hopefully :P

I race for fun anyways so I guess I'll only be pissed if we lose the game on monday :P. If I dont go to practice, I dont play monday. That simple so i cant skip it..

[kipsus]

After about an hour of practice I got 1.44.8 with some small mistakes and 20% in tank. Pretty OK for someone who has never driven a formula seriously before :)
One weird thing I noticed that R2/R3 not only last longer than R1 but the handling is better too.

[Marlbro]

One weird thing I noticed that R2/R3 not only last longer than R1 but the handling is better too.
Yeah, I had the same thing in round 2. I couldn't use R2s for a faster lap, they just made the car undrivable for me. :shrug: I had to use R3s.

[dekojester]

So, I'm doing an all-day production Saturday.

The FPs will be on the usual schedule, but FP3 is scrappable if no one is there to admin it.

Will be around for FP4 and the race.

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[dougie-lampkin]

I thought there were only 3 FPs?

(GMT)
Saturday Evening
Saturday Night / Early Sunday Morning
Sunday Evening before race

Or am I missing one??

[dekojester]

There were 3 for ROund 1.

Added a fourth starting with Round 2.

FP1: Saturday 1900 GMT
FP2: Saturday 2200 GMT
FP3: Sunday 0200 GMT
FP4: Sunday 1630 GMT

Each lasting 60 minutes.

[JO53PHS]

There were 3 for ROund 1.

Added a fourth starting with Round 2.

FP1: Saturday 1900 GMT
FP2: Saturday 2200 GMT
FP3: Sunday 0200 GMT
FP4: Sunday 1630 GMT

Each lasting 60 minutes.

I think we should have a Sunday morning FP (1100 GMT ish), instead of the two saturday ones squidged together :shrug:

[hyntty]

How many actually attends in the FP's in the middle of the night? Or are most people American?

[dekojester]

I think we should have a Sunday morning FP (1100 GMT ish), instead of the two saturday ones squidged together :shrug:

If Jack wants to admin those, sure, but I'm not waking up at 6 am to be there !

How many actually attends in the FP's in the middle of the night? Or are most people American?

The FP3 is for any americans or others who it is more convienent for (as in those Down under and in America.

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[evilpimp]

The FP3 is for any americans or others who it is more convienent for (as in those Down under and in America.

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And over america =_= lol

So yeah ill probably be at SOME FP's not all and I cant go to the race..

[J@tko]

Please can I draw everyone's attention to where the blend line ends. It ends halfway between turn 1 and turn 2, NOT just before turn 1.

[dougie-lampkin]

Oh, it's hard to see the line, it's stuck in the corner between the flat and the oval lol...

[TAYLOR-MANIA]

And on a similar subject, I'm just wondering about something that may cause some complications for a few...

Erm, the white lines on the oval parts...is it only the tarmac to the left of that line considered as the racing surface?
I just wanna make sure of this...
So I took another look in the rule book at this part -

V. Driving Conduct
1. Racing Surface
a. The racing surface shall be defined as the marked, paved race course and its curbing only. Pit lanes, their entries and exits, run-offs, additional paving, grass verges, et al are expressly exculded from the racing surface.
b.
Positions gained by leaving the racing surface shall be yielded back or a drive-thru penalty will be assesed.

So overtaking isn't allowed on the right of that line? And the rules regarding recovering from an incident & rejoining track apply to that white line too, correct?

Oh & also, is this a 7 or 10 lap race? Some say 10 (Deko), some say 7 (Dougie & evilpimp)...

[JO53PHS]

And on a similar subject, I'm just wondering about something that may cause some complications for a few...

Erm, the white lines on the oval parts...is it only the tarmac to the left of that line considered as the racing surface?
I just wanna make sure of this...
So I took another look in the rule book at this part -

V. Driving Conduct
1. Racing Surface
a. The racing surface shall be defined as the marked, paved race course and its curbing only. Pit lanes, their entries and exits, run-offs, additional paving, grass verges, et al are expressly exculded from the racing surface.
b.
Positions gained by leaving the racing surface shall be yielded back or a drive-thru penalty will be assesed.

So overtaking isn't allowed on the right of that line? And the rules regarding recovering from an incident & rejoining track apply to that white line too, correct?


Oh & also, is this a 7 or 10 lap race? Some say 10 (Deko), some say 7 (Dougie & evilpimp)...


It is considered the racing surface but you cannot overtake on it.

[J@tko]

And it's 10 laps.

[J@tko]

We are back on the LFSBC combo on [DR] Server 1
Taylor - you're going down :x

[Technique]

I haven't had time to practice at all. I have some major project deadlines coming up with work :( I'm going to join the race anyway. As long as I drove slow and steady I should be able to pass the people who wreck :) I did drive 3 laps or so with the default set and I think I was running 1:46-1:47.

[evilpimp]

Well I cant make it to the race and I couldnt make it to FP because I had to go get somethin from my dads...

[dougie-lampkin]

I dunno, I just didn't feel like going :shrug:

[Fredthebest]

This is going to go horribly wrong - everyone is going to be crashing - because I'll be spinning! :(

[dekojester]

So, my day Saturday started at 6 am.

Went to Columbus, Ohio for the 2008 OHSAA State Wrestling Championships.

Directed TV coverage of the mornign consolation sessions. 5 cameras, and either 1, two of 3 mats at any given time.

Also directed the Finals in the evening. 5 cameras, 1 mat at once, but throw in local coach intro bits, interviews, and early finishes to bouts that had us cover alternate bouts.

Quite akin to trying to round off the infinite.

I am knackered, got home at 1:40 or so am. I am giving advanced warning that I will probably opt to skip FP4 so that I may be fully rested for qual and race.

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[J@tko]

Sorry I couldn't be admin for any of the sessions - I was out last night :(

[kABLiuks]

good,i like the idea of "slow & steady" :) i think i wont be the only one with such a setup,which hardly spins and goes slow :)

[wee-m8]

can i register???? wee-m8 is my username - licence
please!!!!

[JO53PHS]

can i register???? wee-m8 is my username - licence
please!!!!

Its probably too late to register for this race

Space is limited, so you may not be guaranteed all(or any) of the races.

You can sign up as a Reserve here:

http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=36949