ESL UK LFS Season 2 [Archive]

Fordman

22nd December 2005, 10:55

Hi All,

Well plans of ESL UK LFS Season 2 are now emerging, and now its up to you. There is some details over at the ESL site, which you can find here ESL UK LFS (http://www.esl-europe.net/uk/forum/1325/135182/?lastvisit=1135248531)

Please have a read, and post our comments. You will need to be signed up to the ESL Website ( Doesn't cost naut :D ) to be a member.

Apologies, but this league is for drivers that live in England, Scotland, Ireland or Wales only.

Kindly thankyou all for your Support

Fordman
MLA ESL UK LFS.

Gopher04

22nd December 2005, 12:16

I think the TBO class is a good choice Shaun, close racing, 3 to choice from, and i like the idea of penalty for changing car during season..:thumb:

Fordman

22nd December 2005, 23:13

Didn't want this thread disappearing into the darkest deepest realms of the LFS Forums, so I thought I would Bump it :)

kidzer

23rd December 2005, 09:29

Cool, i've registered.

Might give it a go :)

Bawbag

24th December 2005, 18:27

Looks nice Fordie but i've had alot of gremlins with my wheel, pedals and the biggest shitter, LFS crashing mainly during OLFS races. If I get these sorted out I will try and get the signed up, but no promises yet.

:shrug:

keiran

24th December 2005, 19:00

I'm interested in this :)

Keiran

sidi

30th December 2005, 01:44

Seeing as its a multiple choice poll i went for the middle 2 just to even it up and to aggravate Fordie :D

Fordman

30th December 2005, 09:43

Seeing as its a multiple choice poll i went for the middle 2 just to even it up and to aggravate Fordie :D

Yes Just noticed that Sidi, thanks :razz: /me goes looking for spare account :D

Fordman

2nd January 2006, 00:43

Hi All,

Well I hope you all had a Very Nice Christmas and a Happy New Year.

ESL UK LFS still has a requirement for a News Writer. We require somebody to write some news about the league races. You will need to be dedicated, and also have a flair for capturing the audience attention, and be of good written English. (unlike me :) )

For more information, please send me a PM and I will be in contact.

Thank you all

Regards

Fordie

Fordman

5th January 2006, 09:27

I thought I would give this a little bump, as we are still looking for a News Writer for ESL UK Season 2.

Season starts at the end of January

Many Thanks

Fordman

Gopher04

6th January 2006, 09:48

TBO Only, don't re-organize it at this late notice! It's got the most votes, let's keep it that way!

Only just tho :scratchch but then again there ain't alot of votes overall, which is very sad really..

danowat

6th January 2006, 09:52

Well, I am going to sign-up, and this time I will hopefully make the full season.....

Dan,

Fordman

6th January 2006, 13:34

No Conspiracy.., just forgot to check that i ticked everything before i clicked submit, but i voted for them all :D

Fordman

6th January 2006, 13:44

:nod: Yes, I clicked on it, but obviously missed, then clicked on the rest, and clicked Submit Vote then when I checked, it said 0,1,1,1 for votes.

Fordman

6th January 2006, 15:36

The votes are so mixed that there is no obvious favourite. TBO is the obvious choice, it currently has the most votes (by 2 seeing as you didn't click it Fordie :P) and it is what has been said as the class being used everywhere you advertised it.

When do the "Official" sign ups start? We still need to gather more interest for this league some how.

Official Sign up will be open, hopefully by this time next week. We have a dedicated news Writer now. Thisnameistaken has taken the role of "Official" ESL UK LFS News Writer, Thanks thisnameistaken :thumb:

sinbad

6th January 2006, 19:10

So we going for the random car choice system? It's the only way to use the TBO class and stop it just being an FXO league.

Just as an aside. Why would it be hard to change the arrangements? Noone has signed up for anything yet.

sidi

6th January 2006, 22:00

If you dont count the non uk drivers then TBO is still out infront :)

danowat

6th January 2006, 22:01

Hmm....lets hope its not the FOX....

Dan,

nikimere

7th January 2006, 00:18

Hmm....lets hope its not the FOX....

Dan,
here here....

Fordman

12th January 2006, 10:45

Season 2 is almost ready for Sign up. Sign up open 14th January. There has been some important additions to ESL LFS UK this year. One has been the dedicated news writer as mentioned above. This will help promote ESL LFS UK to other drivers in time.

Another important addition is we now have our own dedicated server that is based in the UK. This is being supplied by http://www.xtremeservers.co.uk and I would like to thank Paul from XtremeServers for supporting the ESL UK. The server will be live 24/7 and be in use for ESL Drivers only.

This season will be the final season that a Premium Account is not required. The following Seasons you will need a Premium Account, so obviously the driver than wins this Season, gets a free Premium Account and thus doesn't have to pay for the next season.

This is a very exciting time for ESL UK and LFS and this is another possitive step.

I would like to thank all the drivers that support the ESL UK LFS, for now and the future.

Regards

Fordman

nikimere

12th January 2006, 11:41

Looking forward to it :D Nice work Shaun & Co.

Fordman

14th January 2006, 18:00

Season 2 is now OPEN for business. You can sign up here http://www.esl-europe.net/uk/lfs/errc/signup/

Looking foward to what should be a interesting and great season

Fordie

Fordman

15th January 2006, 22:41

Yep, Season 2 in now open for sign up and also here is the attached schedule.

http://www.fordman.plus.com/eslsched.jpg

To sign up you need to register here : http://www.esl-europe.net/uk/lfs/errc/news/19153/

nikimere

18th January 2006, 18:44

Publicity Bump!

Any drivers who are from UK & Ireland i'd advice you to sign up for this league! One of the best out there! :thumb:

nikimere

19th January 2006, 15:17

only 4 now....

BenH

24th January 2006, 10:16

nikimere

24th January 2006, 10:46

I'd like to sign up. Tried doing so on the site, but I can't get it to save the lfs_world and lfs_ingame info. (It's asking for them on the registration screen)

Both are: BenH

Is there another way to sign up?

The only way to sign-up is on the ESL website. Did you register to the website 1st? Fill this in? http://www.esl-europe.net/uk/lfs/errc/register_player/

If so then you need to go here to register for this championship: http://www.esl-europe.net/uk/lfs/errc/signup/

The top and the bottom box should say 'No'. If they do then click 'add' beside the top one 1st. The top box is for your 'lfs_world' name. This is your LFS Username. Be sure to select 'LFS-World Nick' in the drop-down box to the left of the textfield.

The bottom box is for your 'lfs_ingame' name which is your REAL 'Firstname Lastname'. Again click 'Add' and this time select 'LFS Ingame Nick' in the drop-down box and type in your real name beside it.
Once all that is done go back to: http://www.esl-europe.net/uk/lfs/errc/signup/ and make sure all the boxes now say 'Yes'. If not post a screenshot of what it says.

BTW, there's only 1 place left so you better hurry :)

Gentlefoot

24th January 2006, 11:13

I've signed up too now. How do we find out what our race number for the season is?

nikimere

24th January 2006, 11:17

I've signed up too now. How do we find out what our race number for the season is?
There is a topic here http://www.esl-europe.net/uk/lfs/errc/forum/1325/ called "Numbers and Skins for Season 2" read that topic. I'd actually recommend reading them all. Especially the rules: http://www.esl-europe.net/uk/lfs/errc/rules/

Cya on track :thumb: Welcome to the ESL :)

P.S. Still 1 place left!!

BenH

24th January 2006, 11:20

Thanks for instructions... signed up now. Looks like there was a mad dash for the last place. Room for both??

Cheers
Ben.

P1lot

24th January 2006, 13:13

Looks like you've fitted on the grid, welcome :)

nikimere

24th January 2006, 13:39

well lets hope we can keep most of the 20 until the end :) :thumb:

keiran

24th January 2006, 17:09

I'm going to be getting my head down this week for my exams which start on the first race :shrug: Will do all the revision before Monday so I can still race :tilt:

Keiran

Fordman

26th January 2006, 08:31

Sign is now CLOSED and we have a full Grid for Season 2. Good luck to all the drivers that have joined the League.

The First race is Monday 30th January, and is at the Aston Club Track.

Fordman

Fordman

26th January 2006, 15:15

What CP Said :D

Fordman

29th January 2006, 09:22

There are currently 2 spaces free atm. If anybody from England, Ireland Scotland or Wales would like to join, then please Contact me.

The 1st race of the season is at Aston Club. The car choice is TBO. YOu pick your car at the beginning of the season, and then you have to use this ALL Season. If you wish to change cars in the season, you will incur a 5point Penalty.

There is Qual, Sprint race and Main Race. This happens every other MOnday Night at 8pm, and should finish around 9:30pm at the latest. The season goes onto May, and there is prizes for 1st, 2nd and 3rd.

You can find more information out here:

http://www.esl-europe.net/uk/forum/1325/

And Here

http://www.esl-europe.net/uk/lfs/errc/

Regards

Fordie

SparkyDave

29th January 2006, 13:07

I really hope we can fill the grid :)

Looking forward to the first race tommorow .

SD.

Fordman

30th January 2006, 10:38

Places are still available. Don't worry if you miss the first event ( tonight ) as your worst 2 scores are dropped at the end of the season.

Signup will open again at 12pm today and will stay open until either the grid is full, or until 13th February at 17:00pm.

Fordie

P1lot

1st February 2006, 10:44

And if that whets your appitite, there is still room on the grid.
The worst 2 events will be discounted from the championship points, so you won't be penalised by missing event 1.

SparkyDave

10th February 2006, 08:27

Any news on the last 2 spaces left in this league?

goodluck to everyone for the next race :)

SD.

Fordman

10th February 2006, 13:12

Nope, there is still 2 spaces left. Seems like UK Drivers don't like clean close racing, well organised Bi-Weekly events where they can win real prizes :shrug:

Gopher04

10th February 2006, 16:43

Cough, just to correct you Fordy there are now 3 spaces left, you will have to pull me from this, its to close to our own internal, and i can't give up both evenings, i will have to wait till the main event starts this year..And if Gav winges just hit him..:thumb:

Fordman

10th February 2006, 18:43

P1lot

17th February 2006, 10:31

We have filled one of the spare slots for this season, welcome 'sidi' :)
Anyone else interested? Visit here (http://www.esl-europe.net/uk/lfs/errc)

joshdifabio

17th February 2006, 14:08

Never mind...

keiran

2nd March 2006, 14:47

Great report :)
My favourite part was
Keiran Smart could learn a thing or two from Clarke, having run well at times but ultimately limping home dead last in the most knackered-looking car imaginable.

Had to laugh :P

Keiran

P1lot

2nd March 2006, 15:22

Kev described me as 'crashmeister'
LOL

danowat

2nd March 2006, 16:20

Yeah, its a great report, for an interesting race, probably not as bad as I like to remember it was.
My best result of the season so far, so at least my wheel has improved me some, still not into the upper ecelons of our resident "aliens".
I was watching the replays again at work this morning, slow morning, bloody hell Kieran, your car was a total mess man, no wonder I was tentative in trying to get past you were weaving from side to side like you'd drunk a bottle of Vodka before the race LOL

Dan,

keiran

2nd March 2006, 16:31

:p I actually didn't really notice that I was weaving about, maybe I was to busy trying to keep the thing in a stright line :p

Keiran

danowat

14th March 2006, 07:40

Anyone else getting "forum deactivated" on the ESL ERCC forum?, I was getting it last night on 3 different PC's, and now its the same at work.

Dan,

SparkyDave

14th March 2006, 07:54

Anyone else getting "forum deactivated" on the ESL ERCC forum?, I was getting it last night on 3 different PC's, and now its the same at work.

Dan,

Thats all I have had for days Dan .. even after the site reopened this morning after maintainance still the same ;( maybe the forum has been renamed and the old 1 closed but no redirect for the new link ? anyone else having probs ?

SD.

danowat

14th March 2006, 08:09

Cheers Dave, it was OK yesterday Morning, but since yesterday evening its been "deactivated" for me.

I have tried various ways of doing it, but the whole forum system on there gives me "forum deactivated".

N'ermind

Dan,

Fordman

14th March 2006, 09:03

Hi Guys,

Not sure what is going on here. Me Three Jump and P1lot can all login and see the forum. Maybe this is down to admin permissions, but don't know. I spoke to Morgan last night, he is going to look into things.

I have also posted on the Admin Section of the forum, to try and get a definative answer as quickly as possible.

danowat

14th March 2006, 09:08

Thanks Shaun.

Dan,

Fordman

14th March 2006, 13:18

Just to let you know, that CORE are doing some maintanence and thery are deactivated across the board :(

danowat

14th March 2006, 13:20

Well, at least we know theres a problem, hopefully they'll be up again soon :)

Dan,

danowat

14th March 2006, 14:01

It's probably to keep us non-admin minions out so we can't all complain about the evening setting from last night :D :scratchch

Dan,

sidi

14th March 2006, 14:18

It did not bother me to much about the evening setting but to make that decision 10 mins before a race and by 2 admins who took part in the race was bang out of order :(

I can't speak for the other drivers but i like to get into a frame of mind before a race and have afew different plans in my head incase things dont go to plan and to throw different lightning into mix 10mins before race was very off putting and ruined my night.

Maybe in the future these things could be added to the rules that changes can occur at any giving race and upon entering server the admin can announce what the weather and wind will be so none of us are taking by surprise :)

danowat

14th March 2006, 14:27

TBH, having the evening setting wasnt a major problem, but I do agree that the way it was introduced, 10 mins before the race, was not the best way to do it.

Maybe an annoucement on the ESL forum saying that conditions can and will change in future events would be a better bet, or at least something more realistic like a weather forecast leading up to the event, you can argue that weather conditions change IRL, but they rarely change from daylight to evening 5 mins before the start of a race (if the race starts in the day).

Overall it wasnt the best race ever but thats the way it goes.

Dan,

Gentlefoot

14th March 2006, 14:55

Bothered me a bit in quali but by the time I was racing I'd forgotten all about it. Besides, nothing was gonna make me any slower lets face it. lol

danowat

14th March 2006, 15:13

Never once suggested anything of the sort, I spoke my mind, again which I should have learnt from last time, that I didnt think changing it so close to the race was a good idea, I made my point and left it at that.

Regardless of the conditions, I doubt they would make me any slower anyway ;)

I understand the reasons for doing it, but the execution of it wasnt the best way to do it, but its a good idea to mix up conditions, adds something else into the mix.

Dan,

nikimere

14th March 2006, 15:19

I believe I could've kept my record of being on the podium at every race if it wasn't for Nikimere, it's not the first time he's severely disadvantaged me in a race, South City comes to mind. Ironically it will be his team mate who benefits from his actions.
Ha ha ha ha! i think we have more important things to worry about in life that to create a conspiracy that revolves around you!
If you think it's all my fault that your race was ruin then put a complaint in and stop moaning... :x
2 perfectly innocent incidents followed by an obvious attempt to put me off the track imo.

sidi

14th March 2006, 15:25

Well i suppose Kev's post is directed at me then,i said on the server we only have there word that we were all in the same boat,i also believe and very much hope the decision they made was in the best intentions but the timing was wrong and they have left themselfs wideopen to accusations.

three_jump

14th March 2006, 15:26

just wait for the official results... :x

danowat

14th March 2006, 15:34

just wait for the official results... :x

Lets have em then :thumb:

BTW, whats the next race?

Dan,

SparkyDave

14th March 2006, 15:46

I had and have no problem with weather changes , I dont see how this could give anyone any advantage, weather changes IRL too :)

SD.

I believe I could've kept my record of being on the podium at every race if it wasn't for Nikimere, it's not the first time he's severely disadvantaged me in a race, South City comes to mind. Ironically it will be his team mate who benefits from his actions.

Have you viewed the replay Jack? looks like you were on the outside going into T1(lap3 or 4?) unlucky I say , I'm not sure what you are implying above :scratchch However podum places aren't everything !

Looking forward to the next race :) .. and the return of ESL forum.:thumb:

SD.

sidi

14th March 2006, 15:46

@Dan BL rev is next and i believe snow is forecasted :D

danowat

14th March 2006, 15:50

I had and have no problem with weather changes , I dont see how this could give anyone any advantage, weather changes IRL too :)

SD.

Dave, I think you are missing my point, the point I was trying to make before the race was not due to the change in conditions, but rather the way the change was implemented, TBH I wouldnt care if the next race was at night, with howling wind and driving rain, as long as I had more than 5 mins notice.

If the point was made at the beginning of the season that conditions can, and will change, then there would be no problem, but to spring it upon us 5 mins before the race was a bit off TBH.

In truth, how many people were aware of the change before we all turned up on the server?, and when was the decision made to change the conditions?.

Dan,

nikimere

14th March 2006, 15:51

As I said, it's not the first time you've severely disadvantaged me in a race.
I'd like to know when i "dis-advantaged" you in a race before?
To quote dave "Unlucky".
@Dan BL rev is next and i believe snow is forecasted
LOL!! :D
In truth, how many people were aware of the change before we all turned up on the server?.
I dont think anyone knew except admins, did they?

danowat

14th March 2006, 15:54

@Dan BL rev is next and i believe snow is forecasted :D

Good, good, as long as I know, I can get the tyre chains fitted in time :D.

Seriously though, lets not loose sight of the fact that this is a game we play for fun, sure we are all competitive and want to win, but I also want to have fun in a friendly atmos.

The admins do a great job, even if they made a dodgy decision last night LOL :D

I don't know Niki, which is why I asked the Q, I would hope it was no one.

Dan,

three_jump

14th March 2006, 16:08

About the weather:
As we all know Live For Speed offers different lightning conditions and also wind, and I hope that someday it also have rain and fog etc. This game wants to be a real Sim and we want the feeling of beeing real drivers. (Imagine heavy rain + fog on Kyoto GP or Aston historic ;))
But for some reason no one uses the options we already have, 99% of all servers are set to bright clear, no wind, what is not really realistic...
Indeed it was a bit of an unlucky thing to introduce it that late to you guys (:thumb:), I think it's added some thrill, as it was not the usual conditions....
In my opinion, if you want always the same clinic conditions then you can also go hotlapping and try to drive the perfect lap what can be also really exciting.
About complainments:
If you have something to complain about, accidents, bad habbit etc. feel free to say it to us (we can't see everything, but we try to).
I also spend the morning with rewatching the yesterday race and my notes are sent to the other admins, to decide in a group about any penalties...

Again about the weather:
how about turning some wind on for the next race? :D

danowat

14th March 2006, 16:11

About the weather:Again about the weather:
how about turning some wind on for the next race? :D

I am easy about it, also as we have "fair" warning :thumb:

Dan,

nikimere

14th March 2006, 16:12

Again about the weather:
how about turning some wind on for the next race? :D
I like that idea, at least that makes a 'real' difference to laptimes. ESL germany do this afaik.

nikimere

14th March 2006, 16:22

Niki managed to get on the grass and use me to make the corner.
lol! you have this big chip on your shoulder like "i'm out to get you"... please...
It's not easy to see the turn in point there (because of the hill) especially when you've a clown blocking the cone i usually use as a marker. i turned in too early and hit the grass. Simple. A mistake i made, had nothing to do with trying to hit you! cP you have a great imagination :pillepall

Fordman

14th March 2006, 16:39

Hi All, is it safe to come out yet:schwitz:

The weather. Well, Me and Gav have mentioned this before on the Admin section of the forum on ESL. We wanted to drop a surprise. We both agreed that we would not practice it, and both being gentlemen we stuck to it. We would need something serious to win these races guys, not just a little darkness.

We didn't tell you because, as said, wanted to throw something in, to make you think, oh shite, OK, lets do this. Everybody including myself and Gavin was in the same boat.

On the ESL Forum, me and Gav have already apologised ( but you can't see it :D ) so please, lets just leave it at that.

As Jan said, he has watched the replays numerous times. We ( the Admins ) will meet up later to discuss, but there is no reflection on the results, so these will be present later.

Personally, I had the worst race ever. Car wanted to do its own things, backend was as loose as a 5$ **** and I was actually safer off the track than on it, hence my early retirement. I am trying to locate my mechincs at T7R and give them a damn good slapping :D

@Niki and CP, you to remind me of Alan Menu and John Cleland in the good old BTCC days. Lets just keep it friendly :thumb:

sidi

14th March 2006, 16:40

@3J have you not read any of the above posts?

Weather is great,fantastic,unbelievably outstanding,we all need weather in our lifes.

Surprises can be bad,they can change your mood,maybe cause shock,and worst of all it can make little children cry (plz dont use last example to make some witty comment)

Ok i have probably doubled my post count on this thread and said what i had to i also took a double dose of trust medicine and feel alot better now :)
BTW race 1 was ok for me i had a nice battle with jack for afew laps but had to ease off as it was doing my tyres no favours,race 2 was craptastic i got caught up in afew ppl's spins got some damage blah blah blah overall pretty poor but thats racing :)

Fordman

14th March 2006, 17:05

Just to finally concrete this suject. NOBODY ( except the Admins ) knew about the weather change. For the people that was on early enough, have a look through your replays, you see me say to Gavin, Lets do it, and he replys, "What, Now?" and if I had practiced that config, don't you think I would of done a little better than last and retired :shrug: :D

nikimere

14th March 2006, 18:24

Funny, I'd assumed you had a turn-in point on the outside of the track (because I do too) and when I was watching the race I was wondering what you'd do when you reached the corner and realised you couldn't tell where it was! ;)
i never thought about that b4 the race.... :shrug: :scratchch

danowat

15th March 2006, 07:14

Any news on either the forum and/or the results?.

Dan,

P1lot

15th March 2006, 08:59

Us admins can't get in the forum now either!
Shaun entered the results last night, thought they would be processed overnight, but not as yet. Maybe in a little while, keep checking.

Here's the provisional standings for your information http://www.esl-europe.net/interface/usergallery/show.php?id=18722

Fordman

15th March 2006, 08:59

Any news on either the forum and/or the results?.

Dan,

No news on forum as yet. Results, well what a pain in the rear end that was last night. I uploaded to different ones of the Sprint Race, and it just displayed only 4 finishers. So me and Gav and Jan had to go through the replays, and write down all the finishing times etc. Hopefully the results are correct, and its only the ranking tables that are wrong, as I haven't closed the race.

But I just wanted to make sure the results are right before closing the race.

danowat

15th March 2006, 09:02

Here's the provisional standings for your information http://www.esl-europe.net/interface/usergallery/show.php?id=18722

LOL, "PREMIUM ONLY" :D:pillepall

Nevermind, lets hope we get it sorted soon eh :thumb:

Dan,

nikimere

15th March 2006, 09:03

what about posting results here? :shrug:

danowat

15th March 2006, 09:22

Just posted somewhere were we can see em would be nice :)

Dan,

P1lot

15th March 2006, 09:42

Bugger, sorry about the link guys.

danowat

15th March 2006, 09:49

Many thanks Gav :)

Dan,

nikimere

15th March 2006, 12:00

thanks Gav :thumbsup:

P1lot

15th March 2006, 14:36

Looks like new improved forum open at ESL :)

danowat

15th March 2006, 14:57

Yep, shame the link from the left hand menu doesnt go straight to the forum :pillepall

And now the whole site is down, and you say this is a premium gaming league site?, its up and down like a brides nighty.

Dan,

Bawbag

15th March 2006, 15:10

Yea I was just about to say that Dan, thought it was just me not bgetting on the site though...:shrug:

Good event, the weather issue bothered me ALOT....I was hoping for some rain. :D

Would have been a much more interesting race if that incident between CP and Niki didn't happen, Would have been very close after the pit stops me thinks. :)

One thing though, I've had my FXO number 21 skin made but when Psymonhill was watching the replay he noticed a car with number 21 on, is he just using this number on his skin or has there been a mis understanding?

Cheers, :smileypul

danowat

15th March 2006, 15:16

What number were you assigned?, did you get asked to pick a number out of the remaining pool?.

Dan,

danowat

15th March 2006, 15:17

I am No 12, maybe he had his monitor upside down?.

edit, just checked there was no other 21 in that race, but I did notice you didnt have the proper ESL numberplate, naughty, naughty, strip him of his win.....

Dan,

Bawbag

15th March 2006, 15:28

Yea me no, I went into the event without a number and asked if the admins wanted one on my car, they said yes so I just drew 21 on the side so Njeh! :razz: They said it was ok but I should get one sorted for the next event which I have. :)

Thanks for confirming there was no other 21, Psy must have got confused with my number and thought it was 12. :tilt:

danowat

15th March 2006, 15:30

:thumb:

P1lot

15th March 2006, 21:30

Bawbag - If you prepare a decent skin and give it the same name as you were wearing in the event (and upload to LFS-World), then when people view the replay they can see the updated skin.

As long as Kev (the writer) deletes the skin he has for you before watching the replays (for the 10th time, no doubt) he will get the update, and screenshots will show it as well.

Fordman

15th March 2006, 22:40

And now the whole site is down, and you say this is a premium gaming league site?, its up and down like a brides nighty.
Dan,

Totally agree with you there Dan, and everybody's comments has been passed on to hopefully the right people.

danowat

16th March 2006, 07:09

Nice stuff again Kev, I'll have to be more promenant in future races I dont get a lot of words as I am fairly non-descript LOL.

Yeah, a rewind feature would be a great addition.

Dan,

Gentlefoot

16th March 2006, 11:16

Up to the usual quality - good work my friend!

Bawbag

16th March 2006, 12:00

Yea nice report but it seems although the results have been a bit eh...Kafuffled? :shrug: Scot Newham has taken my points by the looks of things.

:schwitz:

danowat

16th March 2006, 12:03

Fordie has made a post over at the ESL forums saying the rankings are borked ATM.

Dan,

Bawbag

16th March 2006, 12:18

Sorry, My bad, havn't looked at the forums since last night, still a noob on ESL. :razz:

foofighter

16th March 2006, 15:02

Originally Posted by Fordman Quote:
Originally Posted by danowat
And now the whole site is down, and you say this is a premium gaming league site?, its up and down like a brides nighty.
Dan,

Totally agree with you there Dan, and everybody's comments has been passed on to hopefully the right people.
As far as i know, they have to shut down the page if they have to change more complex structures of the page... Have in mind, that a large and very different community of gamers uses the page.

I agree, it could be better, but its not too worse :shrug:

danowat

16th March 2006, 15:17

It sure could be worse, but for a flagship premium gaming league site, it should really be up and available more than it is, it is quite offen unavailable due to capacity problems or down for maintainace at least a couple of times a day.

Thats without going into how confusing the site can be to navigate.

Maybe I am expecting to much :shrug:

Dan,

P1lot

16th March 2006, 16:35

There seems to be a short period each morning when ESL is offline, intended for doing backups I believe... if that's what you mean?

Looks like the failure of the forum this week made a good excuse for an upgrade, so hopefully more stable from now on.

danowat

17th March 2006, 07:08

It's not a big deal Gav, I just think that new drivers may be put off by firstly the apparent complexity in navigating the ESL site, and also the up/down nature of the site.

TBH, the ESL site is the first site I have encountered that needs to be taken offline daily for backups.

Dan,

danowat

31st March 2006, 08:14

Any news on results / updated rankings?, yes, yes, I know I keep banging on about it but ESL site is down..........again............so no chance to ask there.

Dan,

nikimere

31st March 2006, 08:50

it seems tobecoming more regular that the site is "offline" too...
i know the admins cant do anything about that and i'm sure it pisses them off too. i say sack the esl "web team". :razz:

danowat

31st March 2006, 08:54

Hoellsen

31st March 2006, 09:43

If you had looked at the news yesterday, you would know that upgrades are being undertaken this morning.

The daily downtime is btw noted in the terms of use, had you looked at them you would know about it. It is done so the calculation of all the leagues (including LFS UK) can be done much quicker and with less hinderance for the users during the rest of the day. It takes place early in the morning because that's the time the least amount of users are online during that time.

TBH, the ESL site is the first site I have encountered that needs to be taken offline daily for backups.

Do you know any other page with 400.000+ active users and a few thousands operatins a day which influence leagues of more than 10.000 participants? It's not like the database only consists of a simple forum where entries only have to be added but do not influence other entries. Take the big leagues like Counterstrike: In Germany several 10.000 users play the CS 1on1 ladder. If only one match takes place, this influences the whole ladder. Do this calculation during regular daytime activity and you would know what slowness on a page really is.

danowat

31st March 2006, 09:54

If you had looked at the news yesterday, you would know that upgrades are being undertaken this morning.

The daily downtime is btw noted in the terms of use, had you looked at them you would know about it. It is done so the calculation of all the leagues (including LFS UK) can be done much quicker and with less hinderance for the users during the rest of the day. It takes place early in the morning because that's the time the least amount of users are online during that time.

Do you know any other page with 400.000+ active users and a few thousands operatins a day which influence leagues of more than 10.000 participants? It's not like the database only consists of a simple forum where entries only have to be added but do not influence other entries. Take the big leagues like Counterstrike: In Germany several 10.000 users play the CS 1on1 ladder. If only one match takes place, this influences the whole ladder. Do this calculation during regular daytime activity and you would know what slowness on a page really is.

Thanks for the detailed explanation Phillip, I appreciate it, as I have'nt ventured any further on the site than the UK LFS section I had'nt considered just how big and how much goes on, certainly goes someway in explaining the reasons for the outages, thanks for that :thumbsup: .

Cheers

Dan,

nikimere

31st March 2006, 09:54

If you had looked at the news yesterday, you would know that upgrades are being undertaken this morning.
I did :shrug:
I didn't see anything about down time...
I only look at the ESL UK Site and not the main ESL Page so maybe the news wasn't distributed through all the sections? or maybe i missed something.
But thanks for the explanation

Hoellsen

31st March 2006, 11:19

You guys are right (I just checked), unfortunately there was no news in the intl. sections, just the German one. I'll remind the responsible folks to consider posting such news internationally as well in future.

There was a new database server installed (serverpark consists of 21 webservers and 3 database servers now with a combined ram of 36gb for the three database servers :)).

Fordman

31st March 2006, 14:29

I know it's not any of the ERRC admins team fault, and I know they can't do anything about, and I know people are busy, and I know I keep banging on about it, but the ESL site is appalling, sorry, but it is, and people PAY for some of these leagues?, bloody hell, maybe I expect too much, but its frustrating that its always offline when I try to use it.

I say balls to that ESL site, let's make a better UK specific ESL site, one that actually works.

Dan,

1st, thanks for that Phil.

2nd, I am hesitant to input the the results from Blackwood Rev Dan as Nuke and other ESL Database experts are still looking at our problem. So I am holding Fire on these for the moment.

Gav is updating his spreadsheet soon.

P1lot

12th April 2006, 15:45

Provisional standings for the championship so far...

Fordman

12th April 2006, 15:54

Thanks p1lot

Gener_AL (UK)

12th April 2006, 22:32

:Looking_a OMG im 4th

:woohoo:

danowat

13th April 2006, 06:24

Thanks Pilot, balls, 7th now due to my rubbish race at FE Green.

Dan,

danowat

13th April 2006, 07:03

Sorry to hear that matey, its this time of the year that I am happy to have flu jabs ;) (although not happy with the dead arm for a week when I have it :))

Look forward to the report.

Dan,

keiran

13th April 2006, 09:19

8ths not to bad, hopefully once the round that I got disconnected from the sprint race is knocked off I'll move a bit closer :)

Keiran

danowat

16th April 2006, 07:14

Nice one Kev, I'll read it over breakfast ;)

Dan,

Fordman

24th April 2006, 16:06

All,

We will be using the Xtreme Server tonight, you should all remember the password.

I will dial in when I get home, and set it up at 6:00pm.

Fordie

Fordman

24th April 2006, 18:15

Sorry guys, change of plan. We are on Clownpaints ERRC server.

P1lot

24th April 2006, 21:47

I've quickly entered the results from Event 7, all OK?

SparkyDave

25th April 2006, 00:04

It looks correct Kev its just that the top 3 have missed 1 or more events hence unchanged scores :)

SD.

danowat

25th April 2006, 05:26

Good race last night fellas, the sprint race was a bit of a non-event for me, qualified high, but turned round (forced or not, I am not sure) in T3 and spent the whole race playing catch up.

Main race was a bit better, was pushing so hard right up to the finish line, had some excellent racing with Bawbag and Pilot, couple of dodgy manuevers, but thats racing :nod::thumb:, I really should have taken 4th in the main, all 3 of us, Bawbag, Pilot and I were battling hard on the last 2 laps, I should have got past Gav a number of times, and then Bawbag slipped in between us on the second to last corner, :thumb:

Anyone have the replays from last night they can share?

Dan,

keiran

25th April 2006, 15:35

I'm pleased with my feature race performance, not so much with the Sprint but overall a good result.

Glad I finally held it all together. Keeping it on the black stuff, out of the wall, off the grass and came out with a 2nd :D Now just to do that more often :shrug::tilt:

Dan if you PM me your e-mail I can mail you the replays if you haven't already got them :)

Keiran

Fordman

25th April 2006, 15:47

Hi All,

Just thought I would update you from the ESL Site, incase you was wondering.

Tuesday, 04/25/2006, 15:00h

We are still offline but I want to take the time to tell you what happened during the last 36 hours.

During the last days we have had some minor database errors which we could fix but which were nevertheless a first sign that something was coming up. That's why we activated an identical substitute computer for the main database server. It was supposed to be put into operation by a quick hard drive exchange last morning. But Murphy did not like this idea and sent all the twelve SCSII drives to the unknown realm of Nonrecognition. We haven't seen them since. In the late evening we had to give up and decided to restore a backup.

But the next drama was already awaiting us. The errors as mentioned above left tiny but fatal traces in the morning backup. We can't tell whether it was a broken SCSII controller, broken RAM or a broken motherboard. However we had to repair the data manually until late at night which was more than laborious. We managed to repair 99,99%, so we don't had to fall back to the sunday backup.

At 5 o'clock in the morning we were ready to go online again but then the new hard drive controller produced an error and said goodbye. We had to stop working in order to get some sleep. The current situation is that two of our technicians are on their way from Cologne to Coburg to the computer center, with a new controller and twelve new hard drives. Even if everything runs smoothly now, the page will not be online today. Tomorrow, at the latest, we will be back.

This is the worst downtime since the establishment of the ESL and due to a chain of incidents we could do nothing to prevent it. We apologize for the inconvenience this has caused. All Premium users will be credited with three days of Premium.

At this point I would like to thank all the NGZ "remote hands" at the computer centre.

//Jan-Philipp 'Thefly' Reining

Fordman

28th April 2006, 09:16

Great report Kev, as per usual. I just have had a doom and gloom ESL Season this year. Spent more times in the pits than on track, but Town here we come :D

danowat

28th April 2006, 09:20

Nice report again Kev, and yeah, for the record I was spitting feathers than I didnt claim 4th :banghead:

Dan,

Chris_Kerry

8th May 2006, 23:16

Guys, If in the future the league ever runs on a midweek timetable I.E not Mondays or Fridays ;) would you please let me know as I would be really interested in joining.

Chris

Fordman

8th May 2006, 23:58

Guys, If in the future the league ever runs on a midweek timetable I.E not Mondays or Fridays ;) would you please let me know as I would be really interested in joining.

Chris

Hi Chris,

thanks for that. You best bet is to keep an eye on the ESL forum which can be found here http://www.esl.eu/uk/forum/300/1325/?lastvisit=1147041541 This is where all the choices will be made for Race days and cars involved for next Season.

Regards

Fordie

P1lot

9th May 2006, 08:07

Provisional results after event 8 of 9...
is it all over bar the shouting?

Chris_Kerry

9th May 2006, 09:30

Hi Chris,

thanks for that. You best bet is to keep an eye on the ESL forum which can be found here http://www.esl.eu/uk/forum/300/1325/?lastvisit=1147041541 This is where all the choices will be made for Race days and cars involved for next Season.

Regards

Fordie

Ok, I'll make sure that I'm around for when the decisions are made. Anyway I'm sure Tristan will tell me on IM if it changes anyway...

tristancliffe

9th May 2006, 09:56

I don't tend to follow ESL that much - I get IM's from Keiran and Jack mostly telling me. But I'm think of joining ESL for next season, so maybe I should start following it.

Is the a quick userguide for the website - I can't find information I want (like what the prizes are :p), and information I do find about the racing/championship is frequently out of date? Loving the race reports though :D

3j_uni

9th May 2006, 10:43

the guy who wanted to do an user- / navigationguide went crazy after a few days.... :D so far I know he's doing chalk paintings on a blackboard now :razz:

nikimere

9th May 2006, 11:05

the guy who wanted to do an user- / navigationguide went crazy after a few days.... :D so far I know he's doing chalk paintings on a blackboard now :razz:
ROFL!!

SparkyDave

11th May 2006, 22:41

Hows that race report coming along Kev? :)

SD.

P1lot

12th May 2006, 08:51

Jeez, sounds like a late night just to feed us with news, after beers as well :p
and congrats for your gf :D

Chris_Kerry

12th May 2006, 10:22

Great report, I'm enjoying them. Shame about Kieran's tyre management.

*brings out the whip* :D

danowat

12th May 2006, 10:26

Nice stuff Kev, I appreciate you not slating me to much for my atroucious performance in the last round :)

Dan,

hackerx

22nd May 2006, 18:36

I wonder why isn't there insim relay for spectator for races? Just poor organising or what?

eckh1

22nd May 2006, 18:43

Indeed, all German ESL LFS leagues have that option, shouldn't be so hard to get it done. :shrug:

Would probably make your league more popular also :nod:

keiran

22nd May 2006, 21:15

Great report, I'm enjoying them. Shame about Kieran's tyre management.

*brings out the whip* :D

lol didn't notice that comment Mr Kerry :razz:

Tyre management was fine today though :)

Fordman

22nd May 2006, 22:17

I wonder why isn't there insim relay for spectator for races? Just poor organising or what?

Insim was running, but we had an emergency swap of servers. Then planned to swap back, and it never happened. CP's server was only a tempory server, but ended up the final perminate server.

Indeed all German ESL Races have that option, because all ESL Germany have there own dedicated servers, all based in Germany. We, as it stands in UK don;t have a dedicated server, so this is something we are working on ready for the EPS season, and have got one. We also have a dedicated service to show races LIVE streamed over the internet, like EPS Germany, so we are getting there.

Remember, LFS Germany has 3 yrs advance over us here in the UK. We are always going to play catchup, but at least we are playing catchup.

We will get there in the end. Its no over night fix, damn if it was, would make my life a hell of alot easier. As fair as I know, we are the only league to provide "free" racing, but actual prizes provided in the end for 1st, 2nd and 3rd placed drivers, even ESL Germany cannot do that :)

This is not a dig at ESL Germany, its just a point being made. Experience is the upper hand in this game, and ESL Germany ( Hoellsen and Vykos ) have way more experience than me in this field. We are learning here in the UK, and learning fast, so all I can say is watch this space.

As the story stands, I was approched from ESL as being a well known person in the UK for organising stuff, and they asked me 1.5 yrs ago to go EPS, and I was honest and said, UK is not ready for that yet. We need some test seasons to get going, to find out whats what, how it all works etc etc, and this is what we have done. Now we all know whats what, we have Admins on board that are, well just the best at working "for free I must add" and we are building on a reputation that will see us one of the best league's around for LFS and United Kingdom drivers.

It all takes time. Time that we do for nada, things we do that we enjoy, so, please bere with us on this, as we are learning all the time.

It will come good, I know, but time is with us on this, not against us