UK LFS meet, All Welcome

[Killer K]

Too far for me >< If it was somewhere in the South East, close to London or Berkshire, then I'd definatly be up for it!

Oh well, maybe next time

[Fordman]

Regarding Hotels, are we all going to try and book the same one? as it might be nice as an after party for of thing, night drink in the hotel bar? Also seeing people off in the morning?

Just a thought

Shaun

[LawVS]

yeah that wouldn't be bad actually :)

[Bob Smith]

Dammit. Need money. NOW.



Student. Will do (almost) anything for money. Very good with PCs. Taking degree in Computer Networking. You owe it to your country.

[LawVS]

tell you what Bob. If you took a train up to Haslemere from Portsmouth...I might give you a lift :D Mind you, my car's a Micra so it'd be a bit small :P

[Bob Smith]

£7.50 return. Sounds a bit more manageable. It's ok about space, my legs are detachable anyway :D

[LawVS]

lol that must be convenient :P well, there are only 3 of us in it so it shouldn't be so bad :)

[ayrton senna 87]

how about madman law and bob?

[three_jump]

looking forward to meet you all in october :)

[tristancliffe]

I think Laws is also taking Dumass (aka Tux, aka Jon).

And 3J - I've already met you :P This time, try to be more, err, awake :P I'll promise not to hacksaw/mod anything if you do... Or wear the summery shirt. Well, I won't promise about the shirt, but the hacksawing bit I will...

[Fordman]

Hi All. After speaking to Victor I have re-done a thread that contains in 1 post all the information you need. Please don't spame this thread, only if you are driving from somewhere and you could offer people a lift.

http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=589

Thank you all for your responces, and just to let you all know that, this will be the BIGGEST SOLE LFS MEETING to Date. Yes there has been the GC etc etc, but this event is solely on LFS drivers and nothing more.

Thanks again for making this possible

Regards

Shaun

[three_jump]

I was awake, you were just not really able to see it ;)

[tristancliffe]

maybe you hid behind your dropping eye-lids... :P

[dUmAsS]

I think Laws is also taking Dumass (aka Tux, aka Jon).


yes, im beeing tied to the roof because my legs are too long :P

[tristancliffe]

rofl

[Bob Smith]

how about madman law and bob?
Assuming he confirms (he's financially restrained atm, like me) then he'll be travelling however I do. If someone can only give one of us a lift then we'll have to get the train, I can't not travel with him. Besides if it wasn't for me pesting him to come with me he'd be £££ better off.

[LawVS]

well, we might have to put Tux in the boot to save room :P OK, Bob, we'll see what we can do. :)

[Fordman]

Hi Guys, some great news for you. I can confirm that Scawen and Victor will be coming in October, and also, they will be racing the Enduro Race.

My thanks to them both, as I know they are busy. :Handshake

Regards

Shaun

PS - There is only 1 space left unconfirmed :)

[ayrton senna 87]

i alreay knew, but to see u writing those words on this forum is very exciting indeed!

thanks for your support in the way of gracing us with your precence scawen anr victor, very much aprrectiated

ps, we are letting them win ;)

[the_angry_angel]

Nevar!! :p

[snewham]

that's great news. Looking forward to meeting both of you. :thumb: :thumb:


scotty

[danowat]

Good news, should be a great day

Dan.

[dUmAsS]

great news! but no eric? :(

[ayrton senna 87]

guys, i will be making numbered tickets to talk to the devs. Everyone is allocated a number, when your number is called u have 5 minuites to talk to them, then its the next persons turn.

ROFL jokin, although i hope people dont pester them too much.

/me looks for my autograph book

[Fordman]

great news! but no eric? :(

Aye its a shame, but Eric cannot make it, but they are sending the Flying Dutchman :smileypul

[dUmAsS]

:( also. what happened with changing the race to 2 hours and having a 3 man team? is that still happening?

[snewham]

:( also. what happened with changing the race to 2 hours and having a 3 man team? is that still happening?


no that's not happening anymore. Would make the whole place too crowded, reduce time per player, increase costs etc etc. Wasn't really feasible.

[dUmAsS]

ho hum :D

[ayrton senna 87]

and another group had an event booked after ;)

[LawVS]

pah, do they not know the importance of us LFS folk? :P

[tristancliffe]

I knew already too :D :D Sorry guys for not telling you, but I was sworn to secrecy...

It's gonna make the day go from Perfect to heavenly. But I'm not going to be in the inital crowd to talk to them.

To Scawen and Victor. I've only ever seen one or two photos of you both, and you both had long(ish) hair. May I sugeest you cut your hair, or employ a cunning disguise (perhaps just wearing a helmet ALL the time), so that you avoid attention.

/me makes LFS poster to have signed by them both.
I hope Eric makes it. A menage e tois (spelling?) of devs would be brilliant!!!!!!!!!

/me feints through overexcitment.

I'm trying to work out what people will sound like. For example, Fordie sounds like you'd expect from the way he looks (or the way I expected anyway), but Will's voice is much deeper than I thought it would be. When he phoned me for the first time, I didn't know who it was, even after he told me it was Ayrton Senna (that just confused me more!).

And I wonder how many people there, so used to text based communication with everyone, will be able to interact properly in person. I have a hunch that a fair few people will mill around the edges, too shy to come and chat. No offence to those people by the way - I was the same until I took up amateur dramatics (but thats another story!)

Back to work - they've got me trapped doing paper work today instead of workshoppy things cos too many people are on holiday in the office. I HATE PAPERWORK :'(

[the_angry_angel]

Poor tristan....heheheh

Maybe we should put soundbytes of ourselves online, and you have to guess who's voice it is ;)

[ayrton senna 87]

hehe sounds fun

u sounded like i thought u would tristan, although i thought u would look like more of a geeky guy.

what did u expect me to sound like, a smurf?

PS i wont be in the 'crowd' at first too, but u guys will know who i am, since i will most likely be walking round the track, trying to train scotty up rofl!

[danowat]

Maybe we should do a "this is my picture" post just to see what people look like before the "big meet".

I am 31, 6ft 4in, and weight 17 stone, so I am rather on the large side, I doubt you would miss me on the day ;)

Dan.

[the_angry_angel]

Just to shatter some illusions, here I am (about 11 months ago - I've not changed much tbh):
http://www.ng-gallery.net/view.php?nick=the_angry_angel

19, about 6ft 2in and reasonably geeky. The only thing missing in that picture is my rather unimpressive pubic-fluff-style-goatee.

I'll shove a soundbyte online later, so you can hear my deep somerset accent! oooo-ar :D

Edit: Incidentally, that is the ONLY picture of me that's outside, in the sun, instead of me basking in the comforting dull glow of a monitor ;)

[tristancliffe]

Maybe we should put soundbytes of ourselves online, and you have to guess who's voice it is ;)

That sounds like a fun idea. LOL

u sounded like i thought u would tristan, although i thought u would look like more of a geeky guy.

what did u expect me to sound like, a smurf?

PS i wont be in the 'crowd' at first too, but u guys will know who i am, since i will most likely be walking round the track, trying to train scotty up rofl!

Me geeky?!?!? I try very hard to avoid the stereotypical geek look. So I'm pleased it worked.

If you had sounded like a Smurf, then I probably wouldn't have gone karting with you. But I expected a slightly 'younger' sounding voice. It's hard to explain really - it's a natural tendancy to imagine how someone sounds, and it's very rarely right.

And whilst your training Scotty up, I'll tag along for another walk of the track. Whilst I got okay at the braking, there is still A LOT for me to learn about the karts, the track, and kart driving in general. I hope that my lap times are about a second off yours Will tbh

More packing of parcels. Arrggghhhh. Just had to 'escape' to the workshop for a cigarette and a drink. It's doing my 'nut' in!

[tristancliffe]

Just to shatter some illusions, here I am (about 11 months ago - I've not changed much tbh):
http://www.ng-gallery.net/view.php?nick=the_angry_angel

19, about 6ft 2in and reasonably geeky. The only thing missing in that picture is my rather unimpressive pubic-fluff-style-goatee.

I'll shove a soundbyte online later, so you can hear my deep somerset accent! oooo-ar :D

Edit: Incidentally, that is the ONLY picture of me that's outside, in the sun, instead of me basking in the comforting dull glow of a monitor ;)

You don't look angry or angelic. So the only accurate bit of your name is The. And you can't go about being referred to as The now can you?!

Looking forward to the soundbyte. I don't have an accent at all, so I look forward to hearing yours. Summerseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet.

Edit: Lol at your URL: http://theangryangel.is-a-geek.com/

[danowat]

Well, if you wanted to hear what I sound like, gawd knows why, I did a voice over for a mate of mine for a video report he did on the helicopter crash in Estonia, if you go to http://www.airsidetv.com/

Scroll down a little bit to Copterline crash, then click view clips, thats my voice, odd aint it!!!.

Dan.

[LawVS]

19, 6ft 2, and kinda large but it shouldn't be a problem I think :)

Pic is right here -> http://www.hotornot.com/r/?eid=BQR8HYE&key=CQW (note that it is pretty dark and I overdid it on the flash kinda :P)

[ayrton senna 87]

rofl dan, in that report, u sound like Holly the computer from Red Dwarf!

tristan, on that video of me walking over the bridge, when u say 'you lost it at T1' i could swear that u sound australian lol!

heres a pic of me when i look best. with my lid on hehee

PS tristan i would be happy to walk u round the track (again) but for team talks, u cant listen :p

[the_angry_angel]

You don't look angry or angelic. So the only accurate bit of your name is The. And you can't go about being referred to as The now can you?!

Looking forward to the soundbyte. I don't have an accent at all, so I look forward to hearing yours. Summerseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet.

Edit: Lol at your URL: http://theangryangel.is-a-geek.com/
That was taken on a good day (namely on holiday), therefore I was soothed by the sound of the waves :)

If you took my picture now, you'd see me as quite enraged - damn users are messing up my beautiful servers again;
Me: "You want a new user AND you want some new software? Installing <unmentionable item of crap software> on a server, would be like installing a 21inch TFT in your bathroom - YOU JUST WOULDNT DO IT."

Incidentally, thats only one of many URLs ;) And you can call me "the" if you want ;) Like I've said before, as long as you can spell it I dont mind :D

Edit:
As often commented upon, I am rarely angelic looking - sorry to disappoint :D

[AndyC]

Since there isn't going to be 3 in a team anymore, I'm a free agent so if anyone needs a driver I'm available.

If nobody does then I doubt I will be going. As much I want to meet all you guys its a lot of travling and expense to get drunk for one night. But I might change my mind nearer the time.

So if anyone needs to then please tell me soon so I can get a deposit down ASAP.

Thanxs
Andy.

[ayrton senna 87]

u are in the spares team, the spares team need u
U can be with GP4Flo, who is coming all the way from germany, so u havnt got an excuse lol!
note to spares teams : U can call yourselfs someting amusing as a team name, decide between yourselfs :D

[tristancliffe]

rofl dan, in that report, u sound like Holly the computer from Red Dwarf!

tristan, on that video of me walking over the bridge, when u say 'you lost it at T1' i could swear that u sound australian lol!

heres a pic of me when i look best. with my lid on hehee

PS tristan i would be happy to walk u round the track (again) but for team talks, u cant listen :pAustralian! I'll check when I get home (in about 10 minutes).

I want to be part of the team talk. I won't tell anyone else. Honest. If not, I'll just have to fit 'bugs' on you, and strategically in and around the kart center. You will not be able to escape muhahahahahaha

My vMax team talk (!) will go something like this "Huddle up, huddle up..... GO ON!!!!!!!!". I doubt it'll make a blind bit of difference. Tux will go to sleep or get bored, James will time out or forget which way to go, and I'll spin off trying to go faster than my limited talent will allow... hmmmm

[tristancliffe]

:scared: :Eyecrazy: I DO sound Australian in that clip! How odd.:shrug:

And I can't get the clip to play here Dan. It says Media Player needs a http:// link, and this one is a mms:// link :(

[snewham]

just looked at it again lol =)

[tristancliffe]

Sorry for the recent spamming of posts by me... :P

Anyway, just checked the vMax team forum, and Keiran has suggested something which I have adapted into this:

We design, together, and get printed big A2 LFS posters, with the LFS logo, and various screenies/renders that show off the best of LFS. Then the Devs (it sounds rude calling them the Devs somehow now we are gonna meet them) can sign them for us :P

[ayrton senna 87]

my team talk with scotty will be

"if u make a mistake, dont wave your arms and shake your head, just get on with it!"
"Push on every lap!"
"If you see one of the devs, let them pass!"
"Aim for Tristan!"

[danowat]

Sorry for the recent spamming of posts by me... :P

Anyway, just checked the vMax team forum, and Keiran has suggested something which I have adapted into this:

We design, together, and get printed big A2 LFS posters, with the LFS logo, and various screenies/renders that show off the best of LFS. Then the Devs (it sounds rude calling them the Devs somehow now we are gonna meet them) can sign them for us :P

You sad, sad fanboy you, you sound like a pre-pubesent teenage girl at a west-life concert ;).

Dan.

[tristancliffe]

my team talk with scotty will be

"if u make a mistake, dont wave your arms and shake your head, just get on with it!"
"Push on every lap!"
"If you see one of the devs, let them pass!"
"Aim for Tristan!"

No, don't aim for me *cries*

You sad, sad fanboy you, you sound like a pre-pubesent teenage girl at a west-life concert ;).

Dan.

And your point is? :razz:

Will and I have decided on names for the Devs:

Special Scawen and VIP Vic :D

[snewham]

my team talk with scotty will be

"if u make a mistake, dont wave your arms and shake your head, just get on with it!"
"Push on every lap!"
"If you see one of the devs, let them pass!"
"Aim for Tristan!"


lol, that's what i do when i'm playing LFS tho, if i crash i lash out on my steering wheel.

[ayrton senna 87]

well dont! :D

[snewham]

lol, will try not to =)

[tristancliffe]

HIT that steering wheel. Really hard. Then you find out which breaks first - your hand or the wheel.




What? You might not be able to drive afterwards? Oh well, the things we do for scientific research...

[ayrton senna 87]

LOL wasnt it u scotty, who, in a team race against some team, u timed out, punched the wall and broke your hand?

[snewham]

LOL wasnt it u scotty, who, in a team race against some team, u timed out, punched the wall and broke your hand?

yeh lol not broke, fractured :thumb:

but that was just the tip of the iceburg for that day.

[AndyC]

haha, ye, i remember that. When your graphics card cooked.

And we got a 1,2,3,4 or sumthin lol.

[snewham]

yeh lol, but i was in 2nd position or something about half way through. Graphics card blew up and i got rather annoyed to i relieved myself on the wall =)

[ayrton senna 87]

most normal people use the toilet when they want to relieve themselfs

can we call Victor and Scawen's team, Team Legend Karting?

that sounds cool

[Fordman]

For people that are Booking Hotels. We have booked in to the Lime Trees, as the other seems fully booked.

Its £69 for a Twin, Including Breakfast:

http://www.theaa.com/hotels/2189.html

SO come on one and all. Lets get desposits out and get this event Nailed.

I have booked my room, and also some others. Three Jump has booked his flight.

Shaun

[dUmAsS]

i shall be attacking hotel staff tomorrow to get a nice price :D

[the_angry_angel]

Me too ^_^ Just have to find out if the Missus is coming first :D

[Fordman]

I did ask if the wife is she wanted to come. Her reply was " what watch loads of testosterone fill guys, race around a track for hrs on end, sorry love but I get that most nights at home " :ices_rofl

But as is stands atm, with AndyC sort of dropping out, AndyC, you can race with anybody btw we have 2 spaces free.

I am also playing with an Idea, will let you know asap what that is :)

Shaun

[Bob Smith]

Pic is right here -> http://www.hotornot.com/r/?eid=BQR8HYE&key=CQW (note that it is pretty dark and I overdid it on the flash kinda :P)

NOT. :p


Do people really want sound clips? The surprise on the day will add to the fun. ;) I bet Victor sounds weird though. Well, when I say weird, I mean like the rest of my team.

[the_angry_angel]

I did ask if the wife is she wanted to come. Her reply was " what watch loads of testosterone fill guys, race around a track for hrs on end, sorry love but I get that most nights at home "rofl, I think I'm probably going to get the same reply lol, but I'll find out tonight :D

I bet Victor sounds weird though. Well, when I say weird, I mean like the rest of my team.What? Dutch?!? *shudder* ;)

[AndyC]

But as is stands atm, with AndyC sort of dropping out, AndyC, you can race with anybody btw we have 2 spaces free.

Hey, If there is deffo spaces then i'll fill one because I really am looking forward to this. I'll PM you later.

Andy.

[ayrton senna 87]

there is deffo one m8

to ALL guys please get your depositis into fordman so i can deal with them, anyone who doesnt get their deposit in in time cant come.

PLEASE contact him if you havnt already

[dUmAsS]

ok who booked up all the twin rooms at the lime tree hotel :D

[tristancliffe]

Why, who are you planning on dragging back to your room? :P

I just want to clarify the costs then, now that we AREN'T doing the 2 hour race. Then I've got to find out if James IS coming. Then we can divide the deposit and I can put my cheque in the post (which I said I'd done in an earlier post, but actually forgot :S).

Am I right in thinking it's still £120 per team?

JAMES! ARE YOU DEFINITELY COMING, AND ARE YOU DEFINITELY DRIVING If not, no worries - I'd like to have more track time anyway :P

Edit: Just seen the costs in the other thread, so no need to tell me again. But I still need to know from James. If anyone see's him on MSN, see if you can find out...

[Bob Smith]

I'm probably gonna be really cheeky and just bring a sleeping bag with me and kip with who-ever is drunk enough not to mind me being on their floor. So long as the hotel in question doesn't find out....

Edit: Oh and when is the deadline for deposits?

[dUmAsS]

ok my hotel is booked :D

we are staying at the quality hotel :) http://www.theaa.com/hotels/2187.html £78 bed and breakfast

[Fordman]

[QUOTE Oh and when is the deadline for deposits?[/QUOTE]

Well I would like your deposits as soon as you can send them really. I think the actual deadline from the Karting Centre is 1st October. Usually 3-4wks before the event.

But as this is such a large event, and with people already booked Hotels / Flights then I would want to secure the karting ASAP.

Shaun

[JackDaMaster]

damn, its times like these that i wish i was 16 :(

[ayrton senna 87]

why? u can still come if u wish...

[mantis9]

Im sending my deposit in the next couple of days :D

Im not able to stay the night, I got to be somewhere on Sunday.
There are 2 spaces free in my car travelling from Birmingham, but like I said, travelling back Saturday night.

Cant wait :trampolin

[snewham]

i'm 16, catching the train up in the morning. I'll get the cheque done in the next few days.

[snewham]

btw, I know someone who works for Max Power, should I ask him if they wanted to maybe do a one page review on the whole event?

[ORION]

uhm a shame that I cant come - damn this studying ;P - but heh, next time prolly ;D

I hope Flo will arrange some kinda autograph hour and sell those cards later, so I can get one :P

[LawVS]

I shall send my deposit to you Ford once I get a hold of your address in which I shall send the cheque :)

[tristancliffe]

btw, I know someone who works for Max Power, should I ask him if they wanted to maybe do a one page review on the whole event?
erm, no. I think Fordie has stuff like that in hand.

Max Power lol

[dUmAsS]

just a thought. because i dont have a cheque book and if i pay using paypal, you wont receive 100% of it due to paypal fees. would i be able to pay by debit card if i phone up the karting place?

[ayrton senna 87]

well dumb arse,

the deposit is 50% of the whole fees, for example i could pay it in 1 go, but i dont wanna have to try to get 600 quid off drunken people later in the day, so me and GP decided it would be best if each driver payed their deposit individually, anyone who didnt pay, couldnt come, so its not actually possible to pay 30 quid for YOU, because it is actually all 1 lump... ask your mum/ dad to write a cheque m8, or give the cash to fordie, im sure he would be happy to write u a cheque.

[dUmAsS]

ok mr senna :P

[snewham]

erm, no. I think Fordie has stuff like that in hand.

Max Power lol

well it doesn't seem like it. What contacts does he have? does it matter what magasine it is? if we got it in any magasine then it would be major coverage and promotion for lfs.

[tristancliffe]

well, (and this is a personal opinion, and yes I have read it once or twice) I think it would attract the wrong kind of reader. Too much fake burberry, 'phat' exhausts and 'My IQ is lower than yours' neons.

I think a local TV station, or a more sensible magazine might be better. Like PF Format (perhaps a bit too geeky though :S)

[Fordman]

Hi All,

For simple questions regarding this event, please can you aim them at Senna and Tristancliffe. I will answer all PM's where possible.

I am about, just busy getting ESL Running, as it starts on Monday.

Thanks again to one and all.

Regards

Shaun

[snewham]

but the likleyhood of getting one of them to review the event if we don't have a contact in one of those magasines is very low and you are wrong, the average max power reader is not a chav.

[dUmAsS]

why would they want to review a bunch of lfs players racing and getting drunk? or is scawen bringing s3 ;)

[Bob Smith]

Yeah avoid Max Power PLEASE.

Evo had a nice review of racing in GT4 when that came out, anybody have a contact for one of them? Great writing and I think they're just the sort of people that would really appreciate LFS. The only downside I can see is the lack of real tracks (from their perspective), but then surely it must get boring racing the same tracks in every game?

[ayrton senna 87]

to be honest, its worth a shot

i will contact the guy from PC Zone, i think he was flamed unfairly about the demo, because it IS full of fools.... (i hope im ok to say that) i think it would be good for him to meet some of the 'propers' and its another person to race with aswell :D maybe he could write a review of the proper S2 and add a little about the meetup?

the game got a good score, and that was only the demo! :D

Fordman is dealing with the TV by the way.

[LawVS]

How about Gamer.TV on Bravo? I think it'd be great to fuse together the UK Meet with an overall review of the game. :D

[ayrton senna 87]

ok, i have contacted the channel, explained what is going on.

i hope they might be intrested, because its a very unique way to review the game, and not a normal situation.

aslong as it doesnt detract from the important business... driving :D

[GP4Flo]

My flight is booked, now I only have to find a hotel room. Unfortunately the price for one night is quite high, does anyone here want to share a room?

[tristancliffe]

I know Tux (Dumass!) wants to share with someone to spread the cost. But's he's just gone offline and to bed, so you'll have to wait til morning for a reply from him...

[LawVS]

Ahem, Tux and I are sharing a twin room as well as me giving him a lift. :)

[tristancliffe]

Right little love nest you've got brewing there :P :lovies3d:

[LawVS]

X_X When I say twin room, two SEPARATE beds! ' ';

[JackDaMaster]

lol, mabye ill come next time.

[dUmAsS]

Right little love nest you've got brewing there :P :lovies3d:


remind me to poke you in the eyes when we meet ;)

[tristancliffe]

X_X When I say twin room, two SEPARATE beds! ' ';

That you push together when we're not looking, I know ;)

[tristancliffe]

remind me to poke you in the eyes when we meet ;)Memo to self: Bring safety glasses/goggles. Or keep helmet on.

[LawVS]

Or carry the hacksaw for defense :P

[snewham]

any suggestions for the music they should play when me and will are on the podium?

[JackDaMaster]

i think if i come along youll all be surprized that im just a short guy whos 13 and wears glasses! :P

oh, and scotty, mabye Kurt angles music on WWE - "you suck....you suck!" :P nah j/k mabye your fav track.

[tristancliffe]

How about 'Cheaters Are Never Happy' or 'Testing Bans'? :P :P :P

[three_jump]

any suggestions for the music they should play when me and will are on the podium?

Beck - Looser ? :D

or Sweet Dreams?

[snewham]

LOL LOL

I was thinking more along the lines of "we are the champions" - "queen"

:D :D :D

[Fordman]

Dreamer :smileypul
Wishing on a Star :D

And my Favorite

SugaBabes - RUN FOR COVER :trampolin

[snewham]

ROFL, maybe:

Satisfaction - Benny Bennesi

or...

Starry Eyed Suprise - Oakenfeld


:D :D

[the_angry_angel]

Prodigy - Smack my Bitch up?

Or......

Chevelle - Still Running ;)

Edit:
No, wait. I've got it:
Deftones - Lucky You :D

[ayrton senna 87]

how about tina turner - simply the best

[three_jump]

the doors - the end.....

[snewham]

lol, we need another thread for this. **Thread created**

[tristancliffe]

Do we? Well I've posted there anyway, and I'll repeat it here.

The National Anthem of the winner :P

For future reference, and the peace of mind of the moderators/admins/devs, can we keep all event discussions in one thread. If everyone posts new threads for each little thing we'll be swamped...

[Fordman]

Music for the Winners? I think the Winners should get the Bar Bill? Whos with me.

Oh BTW, Majority of Votes wins :D

[tristancliffe]

Yeah, drinks on the winner :P

[snewham]

I vote for that, being as i'm winning :)

[the_angry_angel]

Hang on...you vote for you paying the bar bill - if you win?!

Ok :D

[ayrton senna 87]

dont get too cocky scotty lol

the devs will be winning anyway, im going to make sure they get given a kart with 2 engines and a nitrous kit, lowered kart with spoilers and spinners and UV lights for everyone to know, the devs are coming past!

[tristancliffe]

a lowered kart? The wheels wouldn't touch the track! Unless you put some 'phat' 89" wheels that are in fashion in the 'I don't know about cars, but big wheels must be good' brigade.

[ayrton senna 87]

im going to paint my kart burbery and put my helmet PERFECTLY balanced on the top of my head.

safe mate

[Fordman]

HI all. Just a quick note. OK the Developers are coming as we all know, so, I know you will have buring questions, but remember they are out to enjoy themselves also.

Thank you

Regards

Shaun

[Victor]

Fordman made me post this post saying that Scawen and I are coming to the lfs day the 22nd Oct. so you wouldn't have to email him anymore :D

so, we'll be there :thumbsup:

[snewham]

Fordman made me post this post saying that Scawen and I are coming to the lfs day the 22nd Oct. so you wouldn't have to email him anymore :D

so, we'll be there :thumbsup:

yay :nana::nana:

:thumb: see you there Vic :nod:

[tristancliffe]

LOL

/me writes down 3 millions S3 questions...

No, seriously guys. Of course we will have questions. And I expect Scawen and Victor will ask us questions too. But lets not overdo it. I say lets agree, at least, on no questions about either S3 or release dates. Asking things like that won't be fair on them, and they might decide not to come out with us again if we act like children (and this applies to the children coming too).

Whaddya say? Just put yourselves in their shoes and see what it would feel like to go karting, but get millions of (repeated) questions left, right and centre...

[Da Hoe]

i'll come too :nana:

[ayrton senna 87]

hey vic,

im getting my lid painted soon, in this style (kinda) with different colors...

anyway is it ok if i add this logo to the silver parts at the top? its a very nice logo, and matching colors to my kart :)

P.S. im gunna say hi but I wont ask any questions, apart from maybe 'are u enjoying the karting?' :p

[Fordman]

How about people be themselves, enjoy the day that 1 game has brought us all together and have some laughs?

Oh and ALSO, TAA be on your guard, as I feel some really fun moments on and off track, and you better capture them ROFL

[tristancliffe]

You're plotting something against me aren't you Shaun?!?!? I just know it.

/me looks out for Fordie, ThreeJump, Senna and the rest of the likely culprits :hidesbehi

[Victor]

hey vic,

im getting my lid painted soon, in this style (kinda) with different colors...

anyway is it ok if i add this logo to the silver parts at the top? its a very nice logo, and matching colors to my kart :)

P.S. im gunna say hi but I wont ask any questions, apart from maybe 'are u enjoying the karting?' :p

sure, stick that on whatever :)

[the_angry_angel]

lol, hopefully whatevers going down i'll be safe from, given that I've got the camera ^_^

Gimme a camera, and I'll record constantly, if you want ;)

Edit: Did anyone have any luck with the Lime Trees via email (through the AA's site)? Its been about a day, and I've not heard anything - I'll be giving them a ring tomorrow during the day or early evening, if not...

[ayrton senna 87]

hi TAA

did you get the camera thing i sent u via email?

in praccy if u go down to T3, me and tristan will do some LFS style twin drifting!

[the_angry_angel]

Yeah, I managed to find it amongst the vast amount of spam I get :)

If you can do controlled drifting a pair of karts, I will be impressed :D As it takes about 20 seconds to kart around the track, I'm guessing its not all that big? Any ideas how long it takes to get from one corner to the other by walking? I dont want to spend 1.5 hours just filiming from one corner, incase I miss something!

When it comes down to a wireless camera, I do have an old digital camera which is "capable" of film. The downside is that it takes AA batteries (and eats them), I dont know exactly where it is atm, the quality is questionable, and I dont have a very large memory card for it. But, I dont mind it getting trashed, so I'll dig it out and we'll strap it to someone for a bit ;) Actually, maybe we should do that at the after party ;)

[BiKES]

well if you dont mind, ill be there too :trampolin

[the_angry_angel]

:D wooo, more people :D

[ayrton senna 87]

Da Hoe and vykos are coming too, so thats 4 drivers (5 total ) from germany, 1 from Hungary, 1 from netherlands!

i think nametags would be a nice idea.

[Bob Smith]

With all these people how are we ever gonna find one another? We'll have to get a load of name badges made and distribute them on the day. Either that or felt-tip to the forehead.

Edit: Err, yeah, what he said. :D

Perhaps I'll just turn up in fancy dress so people can see me.

[Fordman]

Well I think we all will know who we are without nametages. I certainly know most of you, and with the dancing queen ( Vykos, you will have to wait to see this ) I don;t think it will take long to know whos who.

[tristancliffe]

in praccy if u go down to T3, me and tristan will do some LFS style twin drifting! Sssshhhh. Don't tell people that. They'll start to think I'm a drifter, and then I'll have to pretend to be a total dribbling idiot to fit in...

Not that I'm not a bit of a dribbling idiot at times, before anyone says so for me.

[BiKES]

Ayrton, and one from Hungary :P ;)

[ScHiZ]

Looking forward to meetin you lot :)

[ayrton senna 87]

really guys, im very grateful for the devs for coming, its most nice of them to come an meet their public, and race them for real :D

thanks Special Scawen and VIP Victor!

[Fordman]

Hi Guys.
Just to inform you, I have just had a phone call from Anglia News. :nana:

They have pened in the date, and are interested.

[ayrton senna 87]

Omg!!!! make them interview the organisers ;)

[dUmAsS]

wow:Looking_a

[LawVS]

cool, nice to see that good old local news is interested in our capers :)

[ayrton senna 87]

hey guys i went to GP today

glen (the manager) said its ok for the TV to come, and anglia have done events there alot smaller than this one, so if they are free, they will be coming, almost deffo.

he says hes very excited to have international drivers here, and i told him you would all be clean :). he says since its such a big event, GET YOUR DEPOSITS IN!! :)

also, i will be demonstrating my kart on the track, i will only be using TKM as i would seize my FA, but im using the FA chassis to get more grip. Swifty will be my mech

he also says that we can book a 2 hour race, but i think its unwise since we are so far in to getting deposits done

he also says he is looking forward to meeting u all ;)

[Bob Smith]

Sweet. This just keeps getting better and better. :thumb:

[danowat]

Blimey, this has evolved somewhat, from a little get together for UK LFS drivers to a full blown media circus....

Well, if thats what you guys want, fair play to you, its gone a little bit crazy for me, not really interested anymore I think, sounds like its going to be a flamin bear pit down there....

So, I give up my place and someone else can take it.

Cheers

Dan.

[colcob]

Okay so I got told off for posting in the other thread, naughty boy eh?

It says in this thread that its up to teams whether on not they want to bring 3 drivers.

Mr. Dendy tells me in the other thread that it isnt.

Which is it, cos I would like to come, but I'm not going to bother if I cant drive.

[Fordman]

PM'd you Col

[the_angry_angel]

Media scrum!

They better watch out for me, and give me a good spot to get the camera, otherwise they shall fear the wrath that is the angry angel! *hammers fist on table in high speed comedic manner*

[colcob]

If I get to go, we'll have to talk about transport Angel. I'm in the heathen barrowland of Trowbridge, so will be heading up in the same direction as you. I'll probably drive, although I would expect I'll be coming back early evening after the race.

[the_angry_angel]

That might be handy colcob, especially if things dont go to plan (i.e. passing my test) :) If I do, however, I'm quite happy to drive you/whoever up as well :)

I'm really a good driver (hohoho)...I was just too lazy to take my test :doh:

[LawVS]

lol, it'd be great to see you up there col :D

[colcob]

Yay, the woman from Delmonte she say yes. Looks like I shall be there, although I'll want to be on the road by about 8pm to get back in time for bed:)

[ayrton senna 87]

heres a vid of me drivin round the track for 1 lap, as u can see, the karts arent VERY slow around such tight corners. but as u can see, they are very slow on straights, so it should be some very close racing :D

[the_angry_angel]

Anyone had any luck with the Lime Trees via the AA's website? I did try and phone, but I got no answer, and the second time it was engaged.. :(

[Bob Smith]

Just to add I've got some money coming my way shortly so I can pay the deposit. Put me down as confirmed. :)

Is Madman's space gone already? He was getting the money together...

[GP4Flo]

Anyone had any luck with the Lime Trees via the AA's website? I did try and phone, but I got no answer, and the second time it was engaged.. :(Try to book here: http://www.bestwestern.com/

[dUmAsS]

Anyone had any luck with the Lime Trees via the AA's website? I did try and phone, but I got no answer, and the second time it was engaged.. :(


lime trees is fully booked!

me and lawvs are at the quality hotel: http://www.theaa.com/hotels/2187.html

[ayrton senna 87]

does anyone have a camera that can record, or any way to record, video that is output with these type of leads? (yellow only)

The transmitter uses this type of lead, basically both ends are like this. any way to change that type of plug into something else is what i need.

i hope i make sense

see attachment

[P1lot]

heres a vid of me drivin round the track for 1 lap, as u can see, the karts arent VERY slow around such tight corners. but as u can see, they are very sow on straights, so it should be some very close racing :D
Gosh, thats a short tight track!

Just to be awkward, did you consider Datona at Milton Keynes. http://www.daytona.co.uk/track.php?venue=milton%20keynes
A non-speed freak friend tried it and raved about it. Maybe for next time :)

[ayrton senna 87]

yea p1lot, i have been there before a few times and i quite enjoyed it, the karts are twin engine pro karts with 360cc rather than the single engine 200cc pro karts in GP, so they are little faster.

the problem with that was, its the end of october, and it might rain, then it wouldnt be so enjoyable.

but hey, if this event is a sucess, maybe we can book the 2006 event for late july, early aug time , when the weather should be good.

Another bonus is that u can get more karts on the track, up to 25 i think they allow.

Here is some onboard footage from that track. (click on daytona milton keynes in the top left)
(http://www.kart-tv.com/video.html)

[the_angry_angel]

lime trees is fully booked!

me and lawvs are at the quality hotel: http://www.theaa.com/hotels/2187.html
Cheers dumbass. I'll try and book them tomorrow, if possible :)

[Bob Smith]

:bump:

I'm too lazy to keep scrolling down everytime I want to look something up. :p

[the_angry_angel]

Same here, but I was going to wait until the next spam before bumping :p

:doh: Ive forgotten to book the hotel again. I'll make sure I do it at work tomorrow :D (hey, free phone call :P). Incidentally the Lime Tree's eventually got back to me. I have received some generic marketing bullshit through my door today :D

[Fordman]

Bump. Get your deposits to me ASAP please for those that haven't send them already, and also, please make the cheque payable to "GP Karting LTD " LOL

[dUmAsS]

"the cheques in the post" :)

[Fordman]

:thumb:

[Fordman]

Hi All.

Well, if it wasn't enough that we are all going to have a fun weekend, get to drive "real" karts against each other, and meet Victor and Scawen, here is another little surprise for you.

I have been informed that there is going to be one of these there for all you to have a go one.

http://www.cyberseat.co.uk

Its a Motion Simulator, and this will be running LFS. This will be setup right near the karting in the Spectator Area, for those you are watching and for those while your team m8 races.

My Thanks go to Vykos and Victor, and also to CyberSeat for providing us the opputunity to have a go on these awesome peice of Hardware.

See you all in 5wks time.

Regards

Fordman

[ayrton senna 87]

Yayness!!!

[the_angry_angel]

I'm speechless :D

Literally my jaw has hit the floor - its like we've gone from a simple meet, to a mini expo :D :up:

[Vykos69]

Hehe, those guys are cool. They got LFS-running on their thing in about a nights time. And then they optimized it throughout the days at the GamesConvention. You'll have some fun! ;)

[snewham]

wow, really counting the days now :)

[vrooom]

hmmm I would love to come to this event... its would be really cool....

[LawVS]

Wow! :O All I can say...wow! :O

[the_angry_angel]

Then come vrooom :D As far as I am aware theres no karting places left, but ask fordie. If you just want to spectate for the day, then join me filming and the host of others :D

[Fordman]

Aye come along Vroom. Enjoy the day like alot of people are. There might be 1 space left, but will confirm ASAP

[Chris_Kerry]

Unfortunatly doubt I will be able to make it, I was thinking of coming down to have a peek but struggling with transport atm. I will try my best.

[ayrton senna 87]

little bit of news, not very exciting...

the special trophies will be arriving within the next few days, for the winners. 1st, 2nd and 3rd places will get GP Karting trophies. see pic below, they arent very big :(

[danowat]

As I have said previous, if anyone wants to come and doesnt have transport, my car is empty on the way up and back, my route will be Norwich - Northampton, I will be driving up that morning, and returning the same day.

Just PM me if you are interested.

Dan.

[Fordman]

Thanks Dan for your offer :)

Just in case people only look at the last thread, you might want to read this one

http://www.lfsforum.net/showpost.php?p=17394&postcount=421

its at the top somewhere :)

Fordie

[tristancliffe]

Wow, thats great. Gonna be fun! Can we bring our own setups? :P

[Gopher04]

Wow, thats great. Gonna be fun! Can we bring our own setups? :P

Well yes, but i believe they have bouncers doing body searches, just incase someone smuggles in a Hacksaw..:nana:

[Bob Smith]

Any chance of updating the "people list" on the first post, so we know who's definately going now and where the spaces are? Also it seems a bit silly to have myself under "awaiting confirmation", but with "confirmed" after may name, no? :)

Edit: Oh and is anyone in need for someone to share a room? I've yet to book a room in a hotel and don't particularly need one to myself.

[ayrton senna 87]

if u come clubbing, you might find someone to share your room ;)

PS ive had a great idea,

scotty is getting a team shirt made, so i was thinking it would be nice to have everyone sign it with their racer names! i hope everyone doesnt mind if i ask them to autograph it!

[Gopher04]

scotty is getting a team shirt made, so i was thinking it would be nice to have everyone sign it with their racer names! i hope everyone doesnt mind if i ask them to autograph it!

Well im willing to throw up on it for him..:nana:

[Fordman]

HI All,

Well I posted there was 2 seats this morning, and now this is 1. So there is 1 seat remaining for the karting in October.

Wanna see whats happening, look here http://www.lfsforum.net/showpost.php?p=18601&postcount=14

I know there it says 2 seats, but there is only 1 left

Regards

Fordie

[Fordman]

Sorry, but ALL karting seats are now gone.

Regards

Shaun

[the_angry_angel]

Well it looks like im not going to be driving up now (I completely shagged up my driving test), so I'll prolly be booking a train upto northampton now :( As soon as I've got paid, I'll be booking my seat and I'll post the train details so that if anyones going to be on the same one we can meet up in the bar or whatever :)

[Bob Smith]

Definately no-one with a spare bed? I'll get my own room then. I'll try and get a twin so incase anyone suddenly needs somwhere to kip, there'll be a spare bed. :)

[Fordman]

Bob speak to djbob, as he is also looking for bed.

[ayrton senna 87]

after a great and funny convo with law, i have decided to post my predictions of the event!

1st devs :p
2nd T7R
3rd vMax
4th dE/T7R combo

here are some of laws predictions

Scotty will go wide and get mobbed by the field, I'd head off to the outside line (coward's way out :p) Tristan will pull out a lead and spin later in the lap.

Fordman will somehow get through the wreckage unscathed and send out smilies :p Scawen will be trying to do up his dashboard with kitchen appliances before programming the kart to go faster. victor will put go faster stripes on and make it go twice as fast.

[three_jump]

and who gets disconnected during the race?
lol

3j

[snewham]

lol will. Good predictions a that quote from law is a classic hehe.

I don't think i'll be running wide. I'm just too good for that to be honest :P

[tristancliffe]

and who gets disconnected during the race?
lol

3j

JamesF1 isn't coming, so no-one will ;)

[LawVS]

after a great and funny convo with law, i have decided to post my predictions of the event!

1st devs :p
2nd T7R
3rd vMax
4th dE/T7R combo

here are some of laws predictions

You could've said you were gonna post me predicitions mate... ;)

[Chris_Kerry]

Just need to check something guys. Are most of you going down the friday night beforehand or is it the Saturday your stopping? I'm trying my hardest to get to the event although things aren't looking to great atm. I don't want to miss this :thumb:

[AndyC]

I'm looking to get the Saturday Morning Train, which reminds me I need to book some tickets. Then i'll stay on saturday and get home on the Sunday(hopefully).

More local people might be doing something different tho, i'm not sure

Andy.

[the_angry_angel]

Basically the same as Andy :)

[AndyC]

Do you think there is any chance of me getting a PSP before the 22nd ?? I've been around town and looked online but nowhere has them in stock ! If anyone works in a shop and can tell me whenabout there is going to be a delivery it would be much appreciated.

Andy.

[ayrton senna 87]

alright andy, i bought one that had been pre-ordered but hadnt been picked up from Gamestation, played with it a bit, no good games, but AWESOME for vids and films n stuff, then sold it for more than i bought it :D

try gamestation...

[dUmAsS]

any news on the kart-cam?

[ayrton senna 87]

the onboard cam? i have had that for ages :)

your man tristan is bringing his comp to record the footage on

good lad

[AndyC]

So i went to every game shop in town, like Gamestation, Game etc went to every electronics store went to argos even tried Virgin Megastores, no luck. So feeling down I went into HMV to buy a PS2 game, went to the counter looked behind the man, ooo PSP box but they had loads in gamestation without actually having it. 'I'm guessing you havn't got any PSP's in?' 'Ye they're just there' wohooo.

strange place to find a psp but hey!

its a nice little console, world soccer tour is quite good, and tony hawks underground 2 ain't bad. Underworld looks crisp on it so I am pleased.

Just looking foward to this event now, which reminds me I need to book some train tickets.

[the_angry_angel]

Damn, I would've offered you my US 1.5 PSP - which is flashable to 2.0 firmware incidentally. I'm looking to get rid of it, but I just dont have the time to ebay it properly yet.

[tristancliffe]

Yeah I'll bring my PC. I have a breakout box to record s-Video and/or composite (9800 Pro All-In-Wonder).

I'm not 100% sure what software to use to record it. I can use the ATI TV software, but it's bascially rubbish and prone to crashing. I'm gonna try to find alternative recording software that will work with that hardware. I wonder if I can record directly into Vegas 6? hmmmmm

[AndyC]

Damn, I would've offered you my US 1.5 PSP - which is flashable to 2.0 firmware incidentally. I'm looking to get rid of it, but I just dont have the time to ebay it properly yet.

How come you want to get rid of your PSP ? I think they are nice little gadgets.

good to hear your brining your PC, if you need any software tell me and i'll try and get my hands on it for you.

andy.

[tristancliffe]

coughbitorrentcough http://www.lfsforum.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif


If I struggle with something, then I'll shout here, but thanks for the offer!

[the_angry_angel]

How come you want to get rid of your PSP ? I think they are nice little gadgets.I was hoping to find or use a known exploit to run linux natively, and use it as a more general system - but it seems unlikely that its gonna happen at the moment (there are some exceptions I know). Plus I'm also really pissed off with it aching my hands like crazy after playing for an hour or so.

[AndyC]

Plus I'm also really pissed off with it aching my hands like crazy after playing for an hour or so.

ye after half an hour or so my bloody thumb is killing and i have to keep clicking it. Maybe i'll play it 24hrs straight, damage my thumb then sue Sony. :nana:

[tristancliffe]

ye after half an hour or so my bloody thumb is killing and i have to keep clicking it. Maybe i'll play it 24hrs straight, damage my thumb then sue Sony. :nana:

Drinks are on you then :D

[AndyC]

It would be more than drinks ! I'll buy out the kart place for now, then i'll need your help do I can build my own track for the LFS people only, free of charge obviously.

Ahhh Dreams

[AndyC]

Right just checked my Train tickets, If i get the earliest train, 9:15 I should arrive in Northampton at 13:37. So I was wondering what time you guys where going for something to eat (so i know if to take something or not).

Should cost me around 47 quid but on the website it says, available for most journeys, but it should be ok.

just gotta sort the other things out now then i should be ok, hopefully.

Anyway looking forward to this meeting hopefully it will go well.

Andy.

O ye, what is the name of the Train Station ? Or is it just Northampton Station ?

[ayrton senna 87]

northampton station m8

i think we may be eating fairly early, to get to the track early for the seat thing, maybe u r best of going straight to the station

[ayrton senna 87]

wassup ma breadrins?

i got the trophies today and they look proper blud(s)

check dem out

i was tinkin that 1st place can have these trophies, 2nd can have GP's 1st place trophies, 3rd place can have GP's 2nd place trophies and so on...

[Fordman]

Nice Work Will. Trophies look really the part, and also very nicely labeled :)

Regards

Fordie

[Bob Smith]

Trophies look really the part, and also very nicely labeled :)
You've better eyes than me then. I'm sure they'll look great in the flesh.

And to add, I've booked my room now and it's a twin, so if anybody decides to go last minute and doesn't mind sharing there's a bed available for £30.

[the_angry_angel]

Is that bed still available Bob? :)

[Bob Smith]

Is that bed still available Bob? :)
:nod:

[the_angry_angel]

In that case, if you dont mind sharing with me, I can either send some cash to you via paypal this evening (as soon as I've booked and confirmed my train ticket), or on the day :)

[Bob Smith]

np. I've only reserved the room online, I assume they'll try and get some money out of me when I get there. So just hold onto your wallet for now. :)



yay, I've pulled! :p

[LawVS]

bah, Bob, sleeping with the LFS movie director to get a room...:P

[ayrton senna 87]

get your racesuit, you've pulled

[tristancliffe]

I don't think they'll need a race suit. Their birthday suits will do just fine... ;)

[the_angry_angel]

:doh: Maybe I should've asked in PM :p

Edit: Thanks Bob :)

Edit^2: Where have people got their train tickets from? I cant make it down to the train station today, and thetrainline.co.uk wont take my card (bastards!!)

[franky500]

hey .. mr.hacksaw.... any idea on software yet? i am probably going to be brining a laptop up and was wondering what u think will work best.

[tristancliffe]

To record it? Well the input is Composite Video (no sound afaik, but you'd have to ask Will), so I will use my Ati box-of-tricks to get Composite Line-In. From that it's a matter of choosing software. I know I could record it with ATi TV software, using a high quality format (lots of disk space :S). Then that will be edited (if I do it) using Sony Vegas 6.0.

If anyone can think of software that can record directly from Video-In on a 9800 Pro All-In-Wonder, with good ish quality but not huge file sizes then I'm all ears. If not, I'll take the easy option and use ATi TV.

[Bob Smith]

What's wrong with huge filesizes? You'll probably want to multipass encode it with an MPEG4 compatible codec once you're done with the editing anyway.

[franky500]

good job u got that then.. cos my laptop iis just bog standard.. will use it for other things instead.. lap times, positions.. stuff like that.. what do you reckon?

[ayrton senna 87]

they have live lap timings and race positions etc on computer screens posted around the place, but bring it just in case :)

[franky500]

they have live lap timings and race positions etc on computer screens posted around the place, but bring it just in case :)

yeah i know that. i was just gonna save them u know..... unless they are going to transfer all of it onto a disc for us............


*end sarcasm mode*

[tristancliffe]

Huge filesizes are a problem if your hard drives are getting full. Looks like I'll have to order a 300GB drive soon. Does anyone have an external/removable firewire/usb harddrive, just in case things get tight? Don't want to end up missing the finish for example...

[P1lot]

Got a USB2.0 to IDE converter, would that help? Or is it not fast enough?
Can plug in a standard IDE hard-drive into USB with it.

[danowat]

Would it help if I bring my laptop along?, I also have access to a portable USB DVD burner and a 160GB "One Touch" USB harddrive if that will help.

Just PM me if you need them.

Dan.

[tristancliffe]

Well, I'm gonna order a 300GB HDD today to replace on of my 80GB drives, so I should have at least 220GB to play with in one lump (and more on the other drive).

I also have a Dual Layer DVD writer, so I can burn some stuff, but only about 8GB to DVD as and when I suppose. I think we'll be okay, I'll just have top calculate the correct bit rate for recording so I don't use more than 220GB in the race + beforehand + afterwards.

[mantis9]

Take loads of blank DVDs Tristan :D Ill buy one of you :up:

[tristancliffe]

/me orders dual layer DVD's!

How much are, and where can I buy, Dual Layer, Double Sided DVD's? 16GB.... should be more than enough...

If I can't fit it on DVD's there and then, I'll take your addresses, and a bit of change to cover postage, and post them to you guys a few days later...

[seggons]

:google: :saythat: :thumb:

[dUmAsS]

How much are, and where can I buy, Dual Layer, Double Sided DVD's? 16GB.... should be more than enough...


www.overclockers.co.uk

[ayrton senna 87]

:bump: