Who was the first LFS user ( s1 licence ) ? exept devs , mods .

[jwardy]

i wanna know who was the first s1 licence'd driver .

[jwardy]

is that correct ?? u sure there arent any more .

[duke_toaster]

Doesn't it only create your account when you try to log in to the forum though ...

[Scirocco]

i wanna know who was the first s1 licence'd driver .
Only the Devs could answer this as it'd be the first person who paid.

Doesn't it only create your account when you try to log in to the forum though ...
No. My join date is when I signed up for a name, not when I tried to get into the forums. These forums did not exist in January 2003. :D

[RacerAsh3]

And... what about the RSC forums?

[Don]

http://www.lfsforum.net/member.php?u=2 ?
thats the "first" registered user at lfs.net, not the first one to buy the game

[Scirocco]

And... what about the RSC forums?
What about them? Someone's join date at RSC is the date they joined RSC and does not correspond to a join date here. Unless the system here has changed, my join date looks to be the same as the day I signed up for a racers name.

[RacerAsh3]

I was responding to usbeethoven who gave the link to the first person on this forum.

[xaotik]

What about them? Someone's join date at RSC is the date they joined RSC and does not correspond to a join date here. Unless the system here has changed, my join date looks to be the same as the day I signed up for a racers name.

Actually, when the forum move from RSC to this one occurred the usernames and join dates were moved as well.

[joshdifabio]

Actually, when the forum move from RSC to this one occurred the usernames and join dates were moved as well.

No, the usernames and join dates are for LFS accounts only. These are completely seperate from RSC accounts.

Edit: So, back on topic, vari was the first person to register a LFS account (apart from Victor), but afaik it's impossible to see who bought the first S1 license. S1 wasn't released until July 17th 2003, by which time there were 1000s of accounts already created.

[Albieg]

Were demo users accounts originally imported to the LFS forum users database when the forum was created (http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=12)? If not, vari may well have been one of the first (if not the first) licensed users.

[Scirocco]

Were demo users accounts originally imported to the LFS forum users database when the forum was created? If not, vari may well have been one of the first (if not the first) licensed users.
The dates were carried over from the name registration date at lfs.net, which is not the same as the day you became licensed. I've been #48 since the day I signed up.

[Albieg]

I understand that, but still I have to note that the first users in the list are either s1 or s2 licensed, and this forum was created in 2005, after the release of S1. No demo users, except one who posted in the thread I linked with a demo account since he couldn't change his name.
So there are a few options:
1) All the first lfs.net account holders eventually got an s1 or s2 license.
2) There has been a cleanup of demo users.

If there's been a cleanup, either initially or later, only licensed accounts remain at the start.
Edit: I've browsed only the first 20 users or so, so my conclusions are partial.

Re-edit: Scirocco is right, my reasoning is flawed. But what was the main reason, at the time, for registering at LFS.net? There was no LFS forum and probably (I don't know for sure since I knew about LFS later) no statistics for demo users, so I assume that the only good reason was the intention to buy S1, which I recognise is not the same as buying S1. Or, alternatively, one could have had the intention to reserve a user name for future use.

[joshdifabio]

I understand that, but still I have to note that the first users in the list are either s1 or s2 licensed, and this forum was created in 2005, after the release of S1. No demo users, except one who posted in the thread I linked with a demo account since he couldn't change his name.
So there are a few options:
1) All the first lfs.net account holders eventually got an s1 or s2 license.
2) There has been a cleanup of demo users.

If there's been a cleanup, either initially or later, only licensed accounts remain at the start.
Edit: I've browsed only the first 20 users or so, so my conclusions are partial.

Well it seems unlikely that anyone who registered at the beginning of 2003 and, 2.5 years later was still active in LFS (registering on this forum), would not be licensed.

[shiny_red_cobra]

There has been a cleanup of demo users.

There has? I still have a demo account from 2003 (that I forgot about until very recently) and it's still in the database. Granted it's "no longer welcome" on the forum since we can't have 2 accounts. :D

[joshdifabio]

There has? I still have a demo account from 2003 (that I forgot about until very recently) and it's still in the database. Granted it's "no longer welcome" on the forum since we can't have 2 accounts. :D

Well that clears things up then I guess! ;)

[Forbin]

Also remember it was possible to pre-order S1 (and S2, and even S3 as I recall, though I'm not sure if the system lets you do that anymore?) so the date of first purchase is well in advance of the date of S1's release.

[Albieg]

There has? I still have a demo account from 2003 (that I forgot about until very recently) and it's still in the database.
No, I don't think so as of now, but I can't figure out a good reason in 2003 for having a demo account registered on lfs.net, if not for wanting to buy S1 since in 2003 there was no forum. That must be why the first users are all licensed.

[Scirocco]

No, I don't think so as of now, but I can't figure out a good reason in 2003 for having a demo account registered on lfs.net, if not for wanting to buy S1 since in 2003 there was no forum. That must be why the first users are all licensed.
There were many people using LFS at the time and this was your chance to reserve a name for your license. I'm sure that many people reserved more than one name, just in case they'd need it. As for no forums, well, there was one and it's still there. :nod:
http://forum.racesimcentral.com/forumdisplay.php?f=205

[Albieg]

There were many people using LFS at the time and this was your chance to reserve a name for your license.
As I stated in a previous edit of mine as an alternative reason.

As for the forum in RSC, the usernames obviously are not synced with lfs.net.

[shiny_red_cobra]

No, I don't think so as of now, but I can't figure out a good reason in 2003 for having a demo account registered on lfs.net, if not for wanting to buy S1 since in 2003 there was no forum. That must be why the first users are all licensed.

Nope, it's still there (http://www.lfsworld.net/?win=stats&racer=skyline_gtr).

There were many people using LFS at the time and this was your chance to reserve a name for your license. I'm sure that many people reserved more than one name, just in case they'd need it. As for no forums, well, there was one and it's still there. :nod:
http://forum.racesimcentral.com/forumdisplay.php?f=205

I can't belive it's still active though.

[xaotik]

No, the usernames and join dates are for LFS accounts only. These are completely seperate from RSC accounts.

Well then I guess I'm the exception to the rule since my join date was migrated from the RSC forums even though I wasn't a registered LFS user at the time.

[dave]

09 July 2003 creditcard £12 was when i got my license.

[joshdifabio]

Well then I guess I'm the exception to the rule since my join date was migrated from the RSC forums even though I wasn't a registered LFS user at the time.

Are you sure? Your RSC account has a different join date to your LFS account.

[xaotik]

Are you sure? Your RSC account has a different join date to your LFS account.

Indeed there appears to be a one day discrepancy. While yours for example is the same for both LFS and RSC. *shrug*

[joshdifabio]

Indeed there appears to be a one day discrepancy. While yours for example is the same for both LFS and RSC. *shrug*
I don't quite understand how you think they would have taken the data from RSC..? Lots of people had LFS license names which were different to their RSC username, and also the vast majority of RSC users would not have been LFS license holders. Do you think they checked every LFS license name for a corresponding RSC account and copied the date? From a programming perspective I can't believe they would have done that. Obviously they wouldn't have manually copied 68,000 (http://www.lfsforum.net/member.php?u=68055) accounts either...

[shiny_red_cobra]

Well then I guess I'm the exception to the rule since my join date was migrated from the RSC forums even though I wasn't a registered LFS user at the time.

You're absolutely sure that you didn't register on lfs.net at all? I had registered a demo account in Dec 2003 on lfs.net and I completely forgot about it until a month ago, so maybe you did register and you simply forgot that you did. I don't think they copied the list from RSC, and I'm sure J.B. will agree since he uses his demo account to post on this forum precisely because it wasn't transferred over from RSC.

[senn]

wow i joined here early then

Join Date: 22nd January 2003

but i never had an S1 accnt, i went straight to S2 :)

[J@tko]

wow i joined here early then

Join Date: 22nd January 2003

but i never had an S1 accnt, i went straight to S2 :)



:really:

S2 was released in 2005

[senn]

22nd Jun 05 was when i got S2...when S3 comes out i'm getting it asap :P

[xaotik]

You're absolutely sure that you didn't register on lfs.net at all? I had registered a demo account in Dec 2003 on lfs.net and I completely forgot about it until a month ago, so maybe you did register and you simply forgot that you did.

That is very very likely as my memory isn't what I remember it used to be like. The latter statement forming a recursive problem of its own.

Do you think they checked every LFS license name for a corresponding RSC account and copied the date? From a programming perspective I can't believe they would have done that. Obviously they wouldn't have manually copied 68,000 (http://www.lfsforum.net/member.php?u=68055) accounts either...

I never suggested that if they did it they'd do it manually. You're most likely right though anyhow - it just happens that alot of RSC join dates coincide with LFS join dates. Perhaps due to some LFS release that caught everyone's attention back then.

So there you have it, coincidence and bad memory pulled one on my reasoning. Which is frighteningly close to how religions get a boost in popularity...

EDIT:
Further proof my theory has died: http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=2784

[RocksGt]

I am not. So you can get me off the list :nod:

[Octane]

i have a userID of 16 in this forum , and i think users´s ID is taken from the registration on the LFS.net site. It would fit in my case , because i surely registered on LFS.net the 1st day registration was possible, but this was sure in demo days, so nothing can be said about 1st S1 license. On the other hand i prepaid S1 and was surely in the first bunch of guys that got S1.

[ACCAkut]

i have a userID of 16 in this forum , and i think users´s ID is taken from the registration on the LFS.net site.

ID #1 is Victor, #2 is vari, but Scawen is #43, so this number may not correspond to the join date

[zeugnimod]

ID #1 is Victor, #2 is vari, but Scawen is #43, so this number may not correspond to the join date

It does. Just look at the actual join date. The first 22 signed up on 20th January 2003. Number 23 signed up on 21st January, as did Scawen.

[vari]

/me raises hand

Some sort of highlight feature could be nice, hmm :razz: