FXO, with a V6?

[Karbine]

I'm tired of all the four cylinders. the FXO just sounds like ass, and feels out of place with a flat four. FXO with a 3.3 - 3.6L V6 is a lot of fun, and feels more 'honda accord' like. A V6 just feels natural to the FXO. :scratchch Even a 2.4- 3.0L turbocharged or supercharged V6 would be adequate to keep it in the TBO class.

What do you all think?

[dude56]

no omg you just suck at lfs, lfs is fine the way it is, omg use search been requested 500000 times omg

also it would unbalance it

also it is too much work for scawen give him a brake!!!!!!!!!!!!:x:x:x:x

[Karbine]

^ Average LFS user, lol.

[dawesdust_12]

People already bitch that it's unbalanced with the other TBO cars, would you rather it have a V6 but instead of car wheels, it have bicycle wheels?

I'm happy with it as a 4 cylinder.

[Karbine]

People already bitch that it's unbalanced with the other TBO cars, would you rather it have a V6 but instead of car wheels, it have bicycle wheels?

I'm happy with it as a 4 cylinder.
What? That made no sense. Bitch that it's unbalanced? Is this a world where the devs can't tweak it? the HP and torque would stay the same, reduce the car's overall weight a tad to compensate for the heavier motor. A V6 would fit just fine.

[dude56]

A naturally aspirated 3.5 litre V6 would have a very similar power output to the 2.4L turbo we see in the TBO cars now. Wouldn't unbalance it at all.

[dawesdust_12]

Yes, but it'd also be totally different from the TBO class, which the other 2 cars are Turbos, It'd be stupid to change it just cuz "it sounds wrong". Are you gonna start going "OMG LFS SUX, CARS RNT REAL LOLZ" now?

[Karbine]

Yes, but it'd also be totally different from the TBO class, which the other 2 cars are Turbos, It'd be stupid to change it just cuz "it sounds wrong". Are you gonna start going "OMG LFS SUX, CARS RNT REAL LOLZ" now?
Even a 2.4- 3.0L turbocharged or supercharged V6 would be adequate to keep it in the TBO class.
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[dude56]

Yes, but it'd also be totally different from the TBO class, which the other 2 cars are Turbos, It'd be stupid to change it just cuz "it sounds wrong". Are you gonna start going "OMG LFS SUX, CARS RNT REAL LOLZ" now?

How would it be different? Turbo doesn't make that much of a difference on track and it's not hard to balance it. Would make TBO class more interesting. Karbine just forgot how extremely stubborn the community is. He apologizes.

OMG LFS SUX, CARS RNT REAL LOLZ

[dawesdust_12]

Honestly, I couldn't care less, I rarely drive the FXO anymore, so do whatever to it, I'll still beat it. Hell, people should drive cars that take a bit more skill, like the RB4 or XRT, the FXO is a noob machine.

[dude56]

Honestly, I couldn't care less, I rarely drive the FXO anymore, so do whatever to it, I'll still beat it. Hell, people should drive cars that take a bit more skill, like the RB4 or XRT, the FXO is a noob machine.

If you don't care, why are you posting in this thread?

[dawesdust_12]

because, I still find it stupid that "V6 = fantastic" is even a considerable idea. The cars are fine as they are, lets get some other new cars, rather than tweak the hell out of the cars that are already there just so it sounds better.

[Karbine]

It's change, it's new, it's a break from the 4 cylinders that dominate LFS.
Noob machine, wow. Your intelligence baffles me.

[dude56]

because, I still find it stupid that "V6 = fantastic" is even a considerable idea. The cars are fine as they are, lets get some other new cars, rather than tweak the hell out of the cars that are already there just so it sounds better.

It's not just so it sounds better, we need some more variety and engines besides 4 cylinders. They aren't fine as they are, I'll quote you:

people should drive cars that take a bit more skill, like the RB4 or XRT, the FXO is a noob machine.

Also, see this thread: http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=37746

[JJ72]

a 3.5 V6 which only produces 220 bhp...isn't that a bit lame?

[dude56]

a 3.5 V6 which only produces 220 bhp...isn't that a bit lame?

Why not have a 3.0L that produces 240, or something?

[dawesdust_12]

Who gives a toss what it sounds like?! I couldn't care less if it was Scawen going "rrrrrrrrr" as the rev sound, as long as I got the correct information from it.

[JJ72]

because then it wouldn't be balanced. It'll end up something with a lot of low range torque, very front heavy and drives like a pig, it will overtake everyone on the straight, and lost it in the next corner becaues the front tires vapourized.

[dawesdust_12]

Lets just eliminate the engines, and make them Flintstone powered, then you'd lose 2 things to whinge about, the sound and the engine.

[dude56]

Lets just eliminate the engines, and make them Flintstone powered, then you'd lose 2 things to whinge about, the sound and the engine.

Making a constructive suggestion isn't "whinging" nor is it whining. You can leave this thread and take your elitest attitude with you.

Also, once again. If you don't care, don't post. Very simple and effective philosophy.

[dawesdust_12]

So, I'm gonna allow you to tell me what to do? Brilliant reasoning you know, becuase I have so much reason to listen, because you've made so many contributions?

Also, I can post, am I :spam: ing? Nope, therefore I'm entitled to voice my opinion however I'd like, so long as it's not in an offensive or outright calling the other person a wanker.

[Eldanor]

no omg you just suck at lfs, lfs is fine the way it is, omg use search been requested 500000 times omg

also it would unbalance it

also it is too much work for scawen give him a brake!!!!!!!!!!!!:x:x:x:x

You forgot saying "Go play NFSU"

You're right, we should give Scawen a brake. Here's mine :) Hope he likes it.

http://www.italiancarparts.com/brakes/brake.gif

BTW: +1 To a V6 version of the FXO, the more variety, the better.

[Gener_AL (UK)]

Gotta agree with op, maybe its been requested before big deal, no need to act insane dustin, and whats this ? FXO is a noobcar? .... ok in that case they all are, they all goverened by the code in place, are they not ? ... the problem with people (myself included) is that they are limited by themsleves sometimes, you hear what im saying ?

Some times dustin in life you gotta listen to what people tell you to do. As most things in life its all about timing, and this thread for me is outa time.

[dawesdust_12]

Is that like that whole "Stop Sign" guideline?

[Bean0]

I said a while ago that I would like to see how the FXO compared with the others if it were to have say a 220bhp high revving NA engine, similar to the VTEC unit used in Integras.

:shrug:

[Karbine]

because then it wouldn't be balanced. It'll end up something with a lot of low range torque, very front heavy and drives like a pig, it will overtake everyone on the straight, and lost it in the next corner becaues the front tires vapourized.
The whole TBO class already have low end torque. You're exaggerating it a bit. A 3 liter V6 would hardly weigh more than a 2.4L flat four to cause handling like that. The FXO already handles horribly.

[tristancliffe]

I'm just being paranoid, but I get the feeling that Karbine and dude56 are the same people, or friends working together at the very least.

[March Hare]

How about a twin turbo rotary in the XRT?

Would drive all the patch X demo drifters nuts :D

[henrico-20-]

you can change the car engine sound yourself..

Go to LFS map / data / engine/ and then change the name of this file; FZ5_default.eng and FZ5_default_1.eng

kopie thes files to a other map, change the names into FXO_default.eng and FXO_default_1.eng. then copie these files again and replace them into the Engine map. tadaa you have the FZ5 v6 engine sound in yr FXO


you also can do a mix of car sounds! just the same way as i told before but then use for example FZ5_default.eng and MRT_default_1.eng and change the names to FXO! :)

verry easy and no work for scawen so he can go on holiday ;)

grtz

[kirmy]

the only way i would want an fxo v6 would be if the 4 cylinder one remained in the game sort of like a fxo gt, or st, or the likes, the tbo would be a bit rubbish if there was only 2 cars racing against each other.

+1 with 4 cyl fxo, -1 without

[HVS5b]

The FXO already handles horribly.

In the wrong hands, yes it does :tilt:

What we need is some more new cars, not tweaked versions of current models.

[duke_toaster]

IMO the FXO is nothing like a Honda Accord - the numbers fit rather nicely with the Vauxhall (Opel for those on the continent) Calibra and the looks with the Astra Coupe. The 2.5L V6 Calibra has 20 kW less power or so less power than the four cyl turbo.

No need for a V6, four cylinder turbocharged is still more popular than V6, generally. Besides, it would be hard to balance. Keep them how they are, although a 2L NA FXO would be rather interesting with the XFG and XRG.

[Karbine]

you can change the car engine sound yourself..

Go to LFS map / data / engine/ and then change the name of this file; FZ5_default.eng and FZ5_default_1.eng

kopie thes files to a other map, change the names into FXO_default.eng and FXO_default_1.eng. then copie these files again and replace them into the Engine map. tadaa you have the FZ5 v6 engine sound in yr FXO


you also can do a mix of car sounds! just the same way as i told before but then use for example FZ5_default.eng and MRT_default_1.eng and change the names to FXO! :)

verry easy and no work for scawen so he can go on holiday ;)

grtz
Er, no. Every sound sample is a single pop noise, and LFS's sound engine works by multiplying those samples. You can't get a 6 cylinder sound with a 4cylinder engine.

-Dude56 is a friend of mine.

[Primoz]

Hm... I'd prefer a V6 in the RB4. A big V6 powered FWD car just seems so weird for racing. Even Audi used Quattro. I wouldn't like it TBH...

[henrico-20-]

Er, no. Every sound sample is a single pop noise, and LFS's sound engine works by multiplying those samples. You can't get a 6 cylinder sound with a 4cylinder engine.

-Dude56 is a friend of mine.

Oke yr right not exactly the same as an FZ5.. but what i mean is the basic sound of an FZ5 but then in a FXO.. ofkorse it is not completely the same :)

[duke_toaster]

Hm... I'd prefer a V6 in the RB4. A big V6 powered FWD car just seems so weird for racing. Even Audi used Quattro. I wouldn't like it TBH...

Nah, none of the 4WD Celica/Subaru/Lancer (any type) have a V6. FXO would make the most sense V6, but it's fine how it is. I like the sound of air being rugby tackled in to the cylinders via the turbo :tilt:

[Primoz]

Nissan GTR. SUre, it's a big V6. And sure, it has 2 turbos. But still :P Don't really see the TBOs as rally cars for the road, they seem more as a basis for touring cars. But then again, those should be 2.0 N/A or something...

[duke_toaster]

Nissan GTR. SUre, it's a big V6. And sure, it has 2 turbos. But still :P Don't really see the TBOs as rally cars for the road, they seem more as a basis for touring cars. But then again, those should be 2.0 N/A or something...

I personally see the FXO as a Calibra clone :)

[atlantian]

-1

V stands for vulva

[wheel4hummer]

How about an N/A version of the FXO and RB4? Both FWD of course.

[dude56]

-1

V stands for vulva

A stands for atlantian and asshole

[wheel4hummer]

Flame war FTL

[SamH]

A stands for atlantian and asshole
Enough. No more. Stop.

[samjh]

V6 FXO would handle like freight train. No thanks, keep the 4-cyl turbo.

[Breizh]

If there's another FF car added it should be something good like an Integra/RSX. Big engines in FF cars only happens in big FWD saloon/family cars, which is not what should be on the short list for LFS..
Why aren't there any FWD supercars? Because it's a crappy layout for racing.

[Karbine]

FWD GT class does fine. The FXO isn't a small car, a sedan would only be a few inches longer and maybe 100-200lbs heavier.

[Jakg]

Whats wrong with an FXO-R which is stripped down with better suspension, super-road tyres. VTEC-ish system and that weighs less? Sure it wont be in the TBO class, but so what?

[Breizh]

Only because the econobox market is there to feed it.

Anyway a bigger fwd car would be boring compared to other cars not yet in LFS, like a Corvette or M3 or something muscle-ish (no real meaty road going engine cars in LFS yet) like a Monaro, or F430/Cayman, or AWD MR like Lambos, or a roadster like the TVRs or Weismanns, or an LMP racecar, etc.
The only fwd cars that've gotten unquestioned driver's car status are the Mini, the RS Focus... Maybe a few others but definitely dwarved in number by models of other drivetrain layouts, especialy F-RWD. There aren't any FWD supercars because it's an inherently bad layout. It's meant for cheap mass production, and has been adapted to racing, not the other way around. This would be apparent in the relative sluggishness of a car like the big heavy FWD sedans.

[henrico-20-]

just make a 2.0L n/a version of an FXO and RB4 and give it the looks and handling of a WTCC car!

[Kristjan.J]

I know the best solution, if you don't like how it is right now, then don't drive it at all.

[henrico-20-]

lol

[March Hare]

He's right, you know.

[the_angry_angel]

The FXO? With a V6? With it's reputation?

Bingo!

One for the oldies who watched the fast show, I'm afraid

[gremwood]

Leave the TBO. Make these V6's a new class.

[Zachary Zoomy]

I'd like a 4 door version of the FXO and RB4 with a V6! make them both FWD too.
or a 5 banger, like some Volvos.

[Bean0]

The FXO? With a V6? With it's reputation?

Bingo!

One for the oldies who watched the fast show, I'm afraid

For those who have no idea - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vP0HHX4Ur9g

What is it with all the old comedy references today ?

[dude56]

I know the best solution, if you don't like how it is right now, then don't drive it at all.

Or, if you don't like how it is right now, you can POST A SUGGESTION in the IMPROVEMENT SUGGESTIONS forum. :rolleyes: