Mouse + Formula V8 or BF1

[samjh]

I just got S2 unlocked, and have been having a ball with different cars.

Does anyone here play with keyboard/mouse and manage to drive the Formula V8 and the F1 car without spinning out and get decent lap times?

At the moment, my performance with the F1 car will make Yuji Ide proud. :D

[evilpimp]

Lol congrats for the s2 license!:thumb:

And as far as I know, people have had lots of trouble with keyboard or mouse using formula cars. I think more keyboard the mouse however.

Just get a cheap wheel :P

[samjh]

My desk won't fit a wheel, unless it is one of those el-cheapo things with suction cups instead of clamps. I used to have a Logitech Formula wheel, but it broke after about a year.

I have no problems with handling the FBM and the Formula Renault (whatever abbreviation that is).:thumb: But the Formula V8 (or Formula 3000 to be more realistic) and F1 are a handful.

[greg_slideways]

Well then get a wheel and custom make a thing so it fits to your desk, You sound like a smart man! :thumb:

[Drifting101]

I play with the FBM which should be about the same as the formula cars without as much power.

I set my mouse at 1/4 or 1/5 the max speed it should be in windows. Under the slider used to adjust the mouse, there are small dots; I move it to the 4th dot to the left.

In game, I use the mouse as a wheel. I go to wheel/joystick and set the x axis as the steering. The wheel turns setting when you go into the pits and click steering under the car is always half of the maximum the car can turn lock to lock (say the FBM turns 450 lock to lock. I put down 225 for the degree the wheel turns). I go to misc. in the options and set the analogue steer smooth to 0.75.

Now I really don't know why but I feel that the wheel spins slower when I go to view options and set the look function to axis. It doesn't matter how much you want the view to move with the mouse, just set it anywhere but at least have it on to axis look function (I use 0 for how much the view moves).

As for the buttons, I set the control rate betwen 4 and 6. It really depends on the driving style so I don't know exactly how you want it.

Generally, your steering has to be smooth, especially with grippy cars, which is why I go through all of these steps above. If you have a WR setup, chances are that you don't know what kind of driving style the person has. For oversteery setups, I usually brake a little early but not as much to prevent too much weight shifting to the front, then I go into the corner at a higher speed than usual. This sometimes generates a very small amount of oversteer that is able to help you speed through the corner. For understeery setups, I brake harder to transfer weight to the front or slow down quite a lot before the corner, then I jam the throttle once I'm sure the car won't understeer out of course (or spin out from too much power).

Since oversteery setups have more grip in the front, you want to be careful with how much you steer in because too much can cause a spinout or too much will just cause the front wheels to drag, thus slowing you down. I don't know much about understeery setups but what I do to prevent understeer is create oversteer :shrug:.

[Mille Sabords]

Does anyone here play with keyboard/mouse and manage to drive the Formula V8 and the F1 car without spinning out and get decent lap times?

Try to play with the button control rate to get smoother inputs.
For FBM 4 to 6 may be possible but for the F08 or F1 you should probably shoot for 2 to 2.5.
Good luck!

[Aquilifer]

It's hard but possible with some practise. Some tracks are harder. You should try tracks without tight corners (or very few) first. For example I drove Aston National with FO8 some time ago (using mouse). F1 is not my favourite and I never drive it. You probably have to make a set that it has more understeer than the wheel/pedal user sets. Otherwise it is easy to spin in tight corners.

[duke_toaster]

FO8 is a difficult car to drive with KB as it's got a lot of power but no TC. With a keyboard, you have either full throttle or nothing. This means it's hard to get off the line. It's drivable with a pad, if you don't want to use a wheel - provided you use the analog stick for throttle/brake, otherwise it's the same problem with buttons.

The BF1 has TC, but it can be a PITA some times out of corners. The other problem is that it's generally much faster which causes problems with reactions etc.

The FO8 I find almost impossible to drive, but incredibly fun. Which is odd, but I like a challenge - but not one too extreme that it's impossible.

[pearcy_2k7]

Keyboard is fine for most cars. Mouse is good for most cars. Lets put it this way me and a team mate of mine i use keyboard he uses mouse. Both of us after lots of practice in the BF1/BL1 were only tenths from the world record (held by a very good driver with a wheel) And i still think i was getting faster every day. But thats in the past now patch Y is here and new cars are intresting me. My advice now is only try the formula cars on large tracks that it is suited for but the larger the track the more advantage wheel users have as being smooth counts. If you want to be quick get a wheel or have shit loads of practice on keyboard i.e. over 2000 laps on a combo.

[Racer556]

I play with the FBM which should be about the same as the formula cars without as much power.

Exactly, the Formula V8 has a lot of extra power! Spinning is a common, even on wheels. Still it's one of my favs :thumb:

[samjh]

I've managed to get around some tracks with the FO8 and BF1 by setting the button control rate to 2.00. Interestingly, the BF1 is easier to drive, thanks to TC.

Thank you all for your advice. But I don't think I'll be driving the FO8 or BF1 too much. FOX is my favourite at the moment, although it's way too slow for a Formula Renault 2000 car. :)

(Actually the FOX seems like the British Formula Renault BARC, which use restrictors to reduce power to 175BHP, but the LFS website quotes power at 190BHP. The full-spec Formula Renault 2000 engine produces 192BHP, and are a lot faster than the FOX.)

[KanseiDneova]

I've been driving with mouse for a looooong time with everything set to default. Mouse FTW. the XRT blackwood WR was set by mouse before patch Y. BF1 is easy to drive with mouse as well as f08. Call me super crazy, but wheel looks harder lol

[samjh]

I'm actually beginning to like the BF1, after finding out the the TC can be adjusted! :p

No need to worry about power oversteer anymore. :)