car tuning in lfs and toyota suprs turbocharged

[daltonlfs]

pls on the s3 demo put the supra and car tuning like wheels spoilers kit etc.

[Nadeo4441]

omg.

[Gekkibi]

Please, be gentle with him.

[Exile R]

:dnfnoob::something:riceboy::saythat::saythat:

i love those smileys and the clapy one too :D

[Gekkibi]

I tried to find the smiley who eats popcorn/chips, but didn't find it. :(

[ColeusRattus]

why u not liek teh Supr4ZZ?!?!?!??112

ho c4n dis b d4 ooltimaet r4cin sim gaem when not having teh spoilerz and spinenrz and r!ms and NOZ????!!!?

[Gekkibi]

pls on the s3 demo put the supra and car tuning like wheels spoilers kit etc.

I tried to be as polite as I can be.

Buy a S2 license to get more cars. There are pretty neat looking vehicles also. And yes, some of 'em also has spoilers.

However, this is not arcade game where spoilers are just for looks. They actually changes cars handling, so you must be careful adjusting them.

If you like cars appearance, I suggest you play NFS: Carbon or NFS: Pro street instead of LFS. There you can tune cars appearance without making it uncontrollable.

[RacerAsh3]

Surprised you didnt ask for NOS and Neons :l

[Bob Smith]

I tried to find the smiley who eats popcorn/chips, but didn't find it. :(

:munching_ ?

use :munching_

[Gekkibi]

Wov, now I found it in smilies-list. I must have been blind. Thank you, anyway.

[davejah]

rofl :razz:

[Zachary Zoomy]

NO! this is not GT4!

[Woz]

NO! this is not GT4!

Why can't LFS be a car Pokemon game like GT4? Please please lol

[Hankstar]

Since when was LFS an EA Games title?

If you're not gonna bother searching, at least read this (http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=2626).

[Dark Elite]

This member joined the forums on my birthday...

Thanks to whoever bought me some light entertainment as a present :munching_

Sam

[Hankstar]

Woz: lol@ "GT4 = car Pokemon"
Gotta catch em all :D

[jonny__27]

Car tuning? I will change that a little bit and say something like racing modifications.
maybe 2 or 3 spoilers and bodykits, not for looks like those stupid NFS kits, but to have some differences in aerodynamics.
I remember when i played Street Legal Racing Redline, there different parts added different behaviours on the car. For example one spoiler added very little downforce, other one heavy downforce, and even other one added more stability when cornering.
Changing wheels? I don't think it's necessary, but i won't deny it would bring some fun to the game.

[garph]

More folks totally missing the idea and point of LFS :shrug:

[welshys90]

could someone please also tell him the Spoilers, Wheels and Bodykits do not tune your car in anyway tuning is something to do with your cars engine, not your bodywork

[Luke.S]

:munching_:dnfnoob::riceboy::auto::auto::bewarespa :bewarespa:ambulance:saythat::saythat::huepfenic lol smilley fest

[Dark Elite]

could someone please also tell him the Spoilers, Wheels and Bodykits do not tune your car in anyway tuning is something to do with your cars engine, not your bodyworkTake care with that... Spoilers, diffusers and body shape don't affect performance? :scratchch

Sam

[jonny__27]

Take care with that... Spoilers, diffusers and body shape don't affect performance? :scratchch

Sam


Yes. They do. If not, F1 cars (and others) didn't have all those aerodynamic parts.

[XCNuse]

He knows, he's making fun of welshy for saying they don't.

[jonny__27]

He knows, he's making fun of welshy for saying they don't.


I know that. My reply is for welshy :)

[mrminor28]

lfs is for drift haha :D:thumb::trampolin

[Rappa Z]

Get S2 and you can drive the RB4, which is exactly like(body wise) the Supra. Also, if we got a Supra, I'm pretty sure only S2 users would get it.

/me thinks we should add all demo requests(exept for 7337 5P1|\||\|3RZ & 5P01L3RS*) and only add them to S2 users content.:)
*elite spinners and spoilers

[March Hare]

Actually it's 1337 not 7337.

p0wnz0r3d y00!1!11oneone elevenz11!

[Töki (HUN)]

You know what you need? NFS...the perfect choice :really:

[welshys90]

Take care with that... Spoilers, diffusers and body shape don't affect performance? :scratchch

Sam

i know they do, but not in the sense that this guys askin for them, hes not askin for spoilers, diffusers in the sense we know them as, hes askin them in the NFS, Fast and the Furious sense. however they dont as such tune the car, they make them more aerodynamically stable, i see them as different personally

[tristancliffe]

So you call engine tuning tuning, but don't call aero tuning tuning?

The fact that 99% of aero tuning reduces performance doesn't matter, it's still tuning (but bad tuning).

[Primoz]

Tristan i suspect you mean the rice kiddies aero tuning? Proper aerodynamics developed for racing cars surely increaase performance overall. They usually lower the top speed (comparing a GT(R) to it's road counterpart) but corners can be taken a lot faster...

[tristancliffe]

Of course - chances are no one on this forum has seen 'aero tuning' on a road car that has improved it's performance that isn't either intended for racing (e.g. road legal WRC cars) or fitted by manufacturers (and even most of that is just sales styling). Race cars are different, I agree.

[Osco]

Of course - chances are no one on this forum has seen 'aero tuning' on a road car that has improved it's performance that isn't either intended for racing (e.g. road legal WRC cars) or fitted by manufacturers (and even most of that is just sales styling). Race cars are different, I agree.

might not be te same, but still: how about the factory option for the front airdam on your mx-5 (can't remember if you have a mk1 too?) ? yes it looks good, but it also helps with aero, making the front end more stable at higher speeds:scratchch

[tristancliffe]

I do have one - the car came with it. It's a bit ugly having a bulbous lip on the front of the bumper, but indeed it apparently reduces lift. A lot of curvy front cars, like the MX-5, Elans and E-Types benefit from this, which is why most cars have them as standard now. But I did say most manufacturers stuff, not all, is styling over substance. You just found one of undoubtedly many exceptions.

[Osco]

yeah, just checking. couldn't find another example right away :)

[mrminor28]

please put boeing 747 into lfs s3 with the spoilers :thumb: that would be great no?

[asbjoern]

please put boeing 747 into lfs s3 with the spoilers :thumb: that would be great no?
that was a nice and meaningful bump

[S14 DRIFT]

At least he didn't make another thread to say the same thing. :razz:

[TexasLTU]

NO NO NO! NO TUNING! NO NFS IDEAS IN LFS! :doh:

[Tonttula]

Hmm how many times have i seen a thread that says add to the DEMO content SPOILERZ and stuff like that.:scratchch
Should there be a message when you go to the improvements suggestion page that says "Do not post a thread that has the word car tuning!"
:saythat::hidesbehi

[Dajmin]

Wow, it must've been 5 minutes since I last posted this. I wish there was a way to search the forums for ideas people have already suggested...

*** C&P ALERT *** C&P ALERT *** C&P ALERT ***

Modifying the cars is pointless. Eventually, people would work out the ideal setup for each track and car and everyone would use it. Look at the number of people who use Inferno setups if you need proof that it would happen.
Therefor you end up with a field of identical cars, and guess what? That's exactly what we already have.

So how about you just drive the cars you have and I dunno, bang a metal trash can lid with your face to simulate the noise of a pointless "masseev zorst!!1111"

*** C&P END *** C&P END *** C&P END ***

[UnknownMaster21]

Toyota Supra RZ 980hp

That we need in LFS!!!!!!!!

Seriously...:munching_:boing::static::ernaehrun:gt :

[Drift[EST]]

Face it. You all wouldn't mind if tuning was added in the game :something

[tristancliffe]

;1008171']Face it. You all wouldn't mind if tuning was added in the game :something
Most people would mind. A great deal.

[S14 DRIFT]

;1008171']Face it. You all wouldn't mind if tuning was added in the game :something

I would mind. So straight away your comment is rendered totaly untrue. I'm sure many others would agree with me - Tuning = No.

[jwardy]

pls on the s3 demo put the supra and car tuning like wheels spoilers kit etc.

you my friend have got as much chance of sprouting a penis on your head than getting Rimzzz and body kitz

[pacesetter]

you my friend have got as much chance of sprouting a penis on your head than getting Rimzzz and body kitz


haha lol, :razz:

[Dorikat]

heres a question for the narrow minded.

Why don't you want body modifications e.g lightweight rims, aerodynamic rims bumpers with aerodynamic carbon Fiber down force attachments, really you don't mind them, but you've been brainwashed into thinking to "stick to the crowed" saying things you know nothing about.
:dnfnoob:

:wmann3:

[mutt107]

people seem to think "live for speed" means "need for speed". :x

[unseen]

heres a question for the narrow minded.

Why don't you want body modifications e.g lightweight rims, aerodynamic rims bumpers with aerodynamic carbon Fiber down force attachments, really you don't mind them, but you've been brainwashed into thinking to "stick to the crowed" saying things you know nothing about.
:dnfnoob:

:wmann3:

**** all point having various lightweight rim options, when anyone racing will use the lightest, thus automatically discarding anything under the lightest ones. Same with aero, spoilers, bodykits, etc.

That sort of thing will only appeal to cruisers that want a choice of looks for their car, but since LFS is a racing sim it would only get stuff like that at the very end of it`s development.

Don`t hold your breath.

[Dorikat]

can you please explain to me why they have a added mass option then, because that stumps me on your end.

so to speak, spoilers bumpers etc each are designed to one, look appealing and fast, and two. have a function (frontal down force) etc... that is correct is it not?

it would be good to have a variety in terms of style and looks while also helping create grip what is so bad about that? this is a racing simulator, why do we need skins? it has no meaning, oh wait it makes your car LOOK more appealing thats right, gosh...

[Shadowww]

http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/uncyclopedia/images/b/b1/Ricer.JPG

:doh:

[Dorikat]

if you had some common sense, you would have just not posted, but i can see you lack even the simplest of things.

[unseen]

can you please explain to me why they have a added mass option then, because that stumps me on your end.

Being able to add weight is a common way of evening out faster drivers in a racing league, where some drivers are noticeably faster than others, yet you want the league to be closely matched.

Lightening the cars serves no purpose, since everyone would then choose the lightest options which would be no more productive than running the cars as they are now.

To just add bodykits, spoilers or whatever, which have no weight to them purely for looks would take up a huge amount of time that could be spent improving physics, optimisations, adding proper extra content etc.

Obviously it would be nice to have slightly different looks to each car eventually, but it just isn`t something that will be even considered until the game is at an almost finished state, which could in all honesty, be well after you and I are no longer here.

[e2mustang]

we already have supra in the game! its the rb4 :) and than just use tweak ;)

[Dorikat]

all I'm saying is they would be good at some stage in development, sure not in the next 1/2 to 1year but at some point would be nice they do however produce down force of a minimal amount.


as for wheels etc, changeing wheels as in size, not to big, max 17-18/ offset,
e.g drag setups with smaller wheels on the front etc...

tyre size for each tyre. good for drift, drag, oval, speedway etc...

[jwardy]

i dont mean this in a bad way but your digging a big hole here , tuning and Rimzz ... isent really a thing people like on lfs and you will get flamed :)

[Dorikat]

well, I'm not like everyone else, I have my views and there mine, not anyone else's, hold that against me.

[jwardy]

everybody is intitled to there own opinions , im not saying anythin against or to favour tuning etc etc

[s01id]

Modifying the cars is pointless. Eventually, people would work out the ideal setup for each track and car and everyone would use it. Look at the number of people who use Inferno setups if you need proof that it would happen.
Therefor you end up with a field of identical cars, and guess what? That's exactly what we already have.

So how about you just drive the cars you have and I dunno, bang a metal trash can lid with your face to simulate the noise of a pointless "masseev zorst!!1111"


If there were tuning, only about 50% (maybe little more, maybe little less) of people would have identical cars, because almost everyone has their own driving style and there are no ideal setups. However, if there were no tuning, people would DEFINITELY have 100% identical cars because you just couldn't modify them.

Still, I am quite neutral in this argument.

[March Hare]

If there were tuning, only about 50% (maybe little more, maybe little less) of people would have identical cars, because almost everyone has their own driving style and there are no ideal setups. However, if there were no tuning, people would DEFINITELY have 100% identical cars because you just couldn't modify them.
Bold text is true. But what has that got to do with rimz and neonz and stupid bodykits?

Besides even now, without tuning, most people racing have different setups.

About the usefulness of skins in racing. Why aren't all real word racing cars a single colour? Might it be because it's easier to spot different colours on cars than slight alterations in shape when they go fast? Or can you spot a half a degree difference on the rear wing of a F1 car when it's barreling down a straight?

Only noticeable tuning are the horrible bodykits. I have nothing against adding them at some point in the far future. But only if they add the extra weight too.

[senn]

The way to make tuning options work isn't just to have the options there but have leagues of say 450hp, 500hp etc or no aero + set powerlevel classes. Besides theres many different ways to get to a set amount of power, either stroker kits, cams, turbo, supercharger, and each of those effects the torque/power curves in a different way, so no, the cars wouldn't be all the same, as long as there are plenty of options :)

[ZORER]

After all, no matter if they are functional or not...I don't want to see neon lights, idiot spoilers or 1234445 inch rims with spinners in LFS. Please try nfs or ridge racer or gta4 vs... vs... There are many games for the looks but it's only one or two proper simulations for doing proper racing and driving. Please don't make lfs turn into nfs...

[NotAnIllusion]

Yay, another NFSU? STFU! thread :D

[Dajmin]

No no no.
It makes absolutely no difference whether there's 200 million potential ways of getting your car to the recommended power rating or whatever. Eventually a "best" one would be made. One that balances power, reliability, speed, turning ability, etc and that one would be used by more people than bothered to make their own. I'd put the ratio somewhere closer to 90% than 50.

The very reason I posted was to point out that we already have thousands upon thousands of different setup options, yet most people you talk to will say they're using an Inferno set. I guarantee if you join a random server and ask for a setup, you'll either get sent an Inferno one or someone will point you to the website.
Occasionally people will modify the Inferno sets, but they don't usually bother changing that much.

It starts because a few people find the right options and keep winning races. Then other people NEED the same setup to be able to keep up. And it just spreads from there.

I watched it happen in Motor City Online in 2002, it's happened with standard setups in LFS already, I expect it's happened in rF and NFS: Porsche and any other games where setup modification is possible. Please don't be so naive that you think people will make their own setups to be individual rather than use a "new standard" one to win.

[MAD3.0LT]

well if the car tuning was like the engine turning in Street legal 2 (i know a crap game but fun to mod engines) then i would enjoy it for a few weeks :D

but if they add any type of tuning ie adding parts i personaly think it should be RACE stuff only

[Jakg]

If there were tuning, only about 50% (maybe little more, maybe little less) of people would have identical cars, because almost everyone has their own driving style and there are no ideal setups. However, if there were no tuning, people would DEFINITELY have 100% identical cars because you just couldn't modify them.

Still, I am quite neutral in this argument.
Setups, yes, but what driving style favours less grip over more? Or less power over more?

There WILL be an optimum "tuning" setting for each track, which everyone will use anyway...

[daltonlfs]

sorry i was noob in those days

[S14 DRIFT]

Bold text is true. But what has that got to do with rimz and neonz and stupid bodykits?

Besides even now, without tuning, most people racing have different setups.

About the usefulness of skins in racing. Why aren't all real word racing cars a single colour? Might it be because it's easier to spot different colours on cars than slight alterations in shape when they go fast? Or can you spot a half a degree difference on the rear wing of a F1 car when it's barreling down a straight?

Only noticeable tuning are the horrible bodykits. I have nothing against adding them at some point in the far future. But only if they add the extra weight too.

Bolded part : Because each team has sponsers to please.

[only.one.RydeR]

Yay, another NFSU? STFU! thread :D

Lol at the KiD reference :D

I agree about the tuning thing. Soon enough people will find the optimal aerodynamic setup for each track configuration and engine tuning is pointless 'cause then everyone would use the highest available horsepower or torque. Seriously, the OP was pretty brave in posting this one. :shrug:

[daltonlfs]

ye guys sry i even made this thread was a big noob at that time

[Zen321]

This is a bad bad bump :p