Kyoto 500?

[J@tko]

Well, we've got a 24h of Le Mans (nearly!), we have plenty of F1 races, but where's the Indy 500?

I wondered how many people would be interested in an event like this. The car will be the FO8

The event would take place in the summer (I get bored in the summer holidays!), and it would be 270 laps. (513 miles - I can't get 263 laps)

Any interest?

I could include driver changes (although not realistic) to make it easier for people who don't want to do the whole hog.

Race length will be a bit under 3 hours.

[Mackie The Staggie]

Sounds like a good idea, I'll keep an eye out for it.

[koolby]

I'd try to compeet :)

[J@tko]

Good.

Thanks for the interest.

I'll try and make it as realistic as possible, e.g with pace cars/yellows/pit stops e.t.c.

[racer hero]

I would be interested and if you need help organizing I might be able to help out.

[LFSn00b]

There was LFSCAR running Kyoto 360 but that got scrapped.

Anyways, i'll be up for Kyoto 500

[james12s]

i may be up for it

[JasonL220]

:thumb:

[Mtelling]

If we're going to race i will join:) sounds nice:)

[AstroBoy]

I would much rather it be the BF1 seeing as the BF1 is just that fast and i find it more fun but hey id be for it if and when it goes ahead.

[mcgas001]

This goes ahead, count me in :)

[J@tko]

I would much rather it be the BF1 seeing as the BF1 is just that fast and i find it more fun but hey id be for it if and when it goes ahead.

I was going to make it a BF1 event, but It'd have to pit 5 times during the race. Whereas the FO8 would have to pit just once. Makes the on-track events more important.

If you want it to be BF1 - then fine. I don't mind.

[S.Leemet]

I was going to make it a BF1 event, but It'd have to pit 5 times during the race. Whereas the FO8 would have to pit just once. Makes the on-track events more important.

If you want it to be BF1 - then fine. I don't mind.

No. BF1 bad!! :x FO8 good!!:D
Count me in :nod::thumb:

[racer hero]

Nahh I think Fo8 is more fun because it is a bit more stable in drafting. And I think Fo8 will keep all the first timers/noobs away.

[AstroBoy]

Looks like ive been shunned was just putting the idea out there.

[racer hero]

Yeh kinda. I think the Fo8 is better for close action but its fast enough to be fun.

[J@tko]

Thanks for all the interest.

Saying that it does go ahead, I'll need a server (hoping to get it from Dynamic Racing again)

I'll also need 1 volunteer for the following (I may add more later)


Sign-Up Admin:
Results: J@tko
SC skinner:
Rules commer-upper:I'll also need lots of voulunteers for the following (same as above)


Race Admin: J@tko, Dekojester? NtrlBrnRacer
Safety Car Driving: J@tko, Dekojester? NtrlBrnRacer
Broadcasting (see below): Dekojester?For the broadcasting - my ultimate hope would be to broadcast it live on SRT or something similar. Failing that - a nice vid perhaps? I'd need some expertise in this department as I've no idea what'd be involved.

Please tell me if you'd be willing to be involved with any of the above, or have any other jobs that you or someone else would need to do.

[mcgas001]

Providing i still have my rented server by then ill host this event if needed :)

[J@tko]

Providing i still have my rented server by then ill host this event if needed :)

Thanks - how many slots does it have?

[DeadWolfBones]

Would be a great idea if we had a better aero model/better oval. I'll pass on this one, but I hope it comes off well. :)

[h3adbang3r]

I'd love to be in this race. Maybe there should be an R2/R3 tire restriction to make pitstops occur a little more often? Because I don't see pitting once in a 500 mile race to be very sensible.

[J@tko]

Would be a great idea if we had a better aero model/better oval. I'll pass on this one, but I hope it comes off well. :)

Thanks. :thumb:

[mcgas001]

Thanks - how many slots does it have?


I have a Dedicated server, it will be as many as we need, even 2 servers if needed :)

[PJWON63]

Seeing as how the last one stop Indy 500 was in the mid sixties, you might want to run the BF1, if you are looking for realism. I believe Jimmy Clark was the last winner to go with only one stop, that would have been 1965, first rear engine car to win the race. I would look it up, but I doubt seriously I am wrong, besides I have a headache, and I am being lazy today. BTW, depending on date/time I would be interested in doing the event.:nod: :D

[J@tko]

I'd love to be in this race. Maybe there should be an R2/R3 tire restriction to make pitstops occur a little more often? Because I don't see pitting once in a 500 mile race to be very sensible.

Good idea. I almost never race on the oval, so I've no idea how much tyre wear there is. I worked out that, over the race distance, a FO8 will consume 216% of fuel, so youd probably need another stop aswell. I will almost certainly put R2/3s as a rule, Thanks :thumb:

I have a Dedicated server, it will be as many as we need, even 2 servers if needed :)

Great - thanks.

[J@tko]

I'd love to be in this race. Maybe there should be an R2/R3 tire restriction to make pitstops occur a little more often? Because I don't see pitting once in a 500 mile race to be very sensible.

Seeing as how the last one stop Indy 500 was in the mid sixties, you might want to run the BF1, if you are looking for realism. I believe Jimmy Clark was the last winner to go with only one stop, that would have been 1965, first rear engine car to win the race. I would look it up, but I doubt seriously I am wrong, besides I have a headache, and I am being lazy today. BTW, depending on date/time I would be interested in doing the event.:nod: :D

The tyres rule will be akin to F1. Both R2 and R3 must be used in the race. By my short test - R2s will last around 25-30 laps, maybe a bit more if you're careful.

The event won't be for ages yet. I'm just getting basement planning out of the way.

Dates? I was thinking the last weekend in June or the first 2 in July, with qualifying the week preceeding.

If you want it earlier - organise it yourself - I'll be too busy. :thumbsup:

Website: http://new-dimension-racing.bravehost.com/kyoto500.html

[racer hero]

What if we did it on march break and in middle of summer? Maybe on march break it could be 250 miles as a test race for real one..?

[lizardfolk]

Shoot I hoped it would be be the XRR or FXR because then there's the possibility to trade paint. I'm interested but I can only make a race of this magnitude on certain days so I'll wait to see the time until I decided

But whether it's a Daytona 500 or a Indy 500 really doesn't matter to me so I'm interested.

[racer hero]

how about indy 500 on march break daytona 500 in summer?

[J@tko]

What if we did it on march break and in middle of summer? Maybe on march break it could be 250 miles as a test race for real one..?

Shoot I hoped it would be be the XRR or FXR because then there's the possibility to trade paint. I'm interested but I can only make a race of this magnitude on certain days so I'll wait to see the time until I decided

But whether it's a Daytona 500 or a Indy 500 really doesn't matter to me so I'm interested.

Or, considering lizardfolk's post - A 'Nascar' 250 in march for FZR and XRR? :scratchch

P.S - Is the Daytona 500 a Nascar event?

[racer hero]

I think the FXR would better. Only FXR. FXR would be closer racing because its easier to control and draft just like Fo8 to BF1.

[J@tko]

I think the FXR would better. Only FXR. FXR would be closer racing because its easier to control ind raft jsut liek Fo8 to BF1.

OK.

There'll be a Kyoto 250 in march for the <insert GTR car(s) here>, and the Kyoto 500 in June/July for FO8.

Discuss GTR's below.

How much of a difference is there and could it be solved by restricion?

[racer hero]

Yes it could be solved by restriction but in nascar all cars are the same except for the front nose shape.

[lizardfolk]

Or, considering lizardfolk's post - A 'Nascar' 250 in march for FZR and XRR? :scratchch

P.S - Is the Daytona 500 a Nascar event?

Yes the Daytona 500 is one of the crown jewel of NASCAR (Something Villeneuve is trying to win this year :D)

Should we include all the GTRs (with XRR and FZR restrictions of course) for the Kyoto 250?

Yes it could be solved by restriction but in nascar all cars are the same except for the front nose shape.

That's not really true anymore but oh well

[racer hero]

Well nascar cars are closer together than XRR FXR and FZR.

[J@tko]

Well nascar cars are closer together than XRR FXR and FZR.

ATM, I've got the following, for very equal times

Please test if you want.

FXR - no restriction
FZR - 9%
XRR - 7%

[racer hero]

Yeh that seems good.

[lizardfolk]

I suggest that the style of qualifying would follow the IndyCar/NASCAR style of qualifying. All the drivers will join in the pits. But only one car comes out to run 2-4 laps. When that car is finished with its qualifying run the driver will immediately come into the pits or Shift + P. Once that car is in, the admin will allow (or motion) for the second car to take the track and so on until all the participants have gone.

[h3adbang3r]

I suggest that the style of qualifying would follow the IndyCar/NASCAR style of qualifying. All the drivers will join in the pits. But only one car comes out to run 2-4 laps. When that car is finished with its qualifying run the driver will immediately come into the pits or Shift + P. Once that car is in, the admin will allow (or motion) for the second car to take the track and so on until all the participants have gone.Ah, I remember doing this in last year's OWRL 500. Went almost perfect, but of course some idiot decided to go out when he wasnt supposed to, and ran about 5 laps before he was banned.

[racer hero]

Yes that sounds like a good qualifying procedure. I think everyone in spectate as 1 person at a time goes onto the track might work a bit better.

[Mtelling]

Yeah that should be fine:)

[koolby]

I think qualify should be normal, or at least I think the qualify should be normal, so that we don't have to go to the server setup and the admin tells us when to join. I really don't like this system :D mainly that is because I see no one on the grid when the race is started (It's some problem with my internet, another pc doesn't help...).

[J@tko]

For qualifying, I'm not too sure what to do. I think that the best idea would be to have 2 or 3 cars on at a time, to minimise the time taken.

For the race, there will be 8 laps (for the 250 - 7 for the 500) under a semi-paced (it'll be me, in an FXR w/loads of fuel + downforce) safety car. Then, on the last lap of the safety car, it'll slow down after Sector 1 to pit-lane speed. After everyone has bunched up in twos (3s for 500), the safety car will pull away and everyone else will be on pit lane speed limiters. Race control will throw the green flag and then you go off the limiter and start racing.

In the event of a yellow mid-race, the rules will be the same as any normal NASCAR Race.

R4 tyres are prohibited for both races.

I am pondering whether to force people to have at least 1 stint on the R2 tyres.

Thoughts on the above?


P.S Seeing as we have quite alot of interest, I'll hopfully get up a seperate sub-forum soon.

EDIT: For (for me!) 14.5 splits and 40.8 laps:
FXR: no restriction
FZR: 8%
XRR: 8%

[-NightFly-]

hehe...i think u can count me in...loved to try my patience...:D

[J@tko]

hehe...i think u can count me in...loved to try my patience...:D

Great.

Waiting on the sub-forum now.

[UncleBenny]

P.S - Is the Daytona 500 a Nascar event?

Blasphemy.

I'd be interested in trying to run either of these if I am free at the time. Not in a BF1 for the Indy one, though. No way I could put up with listening to that thing hitting the rev limiter for 3 hours straight.

[Mtelling]

Nice but please make in a weekend and at morning if sunday, if friday/saturday it can be all times.
But think most people can race in weekends. Myself can't join any races because theyre early on sundays..

[J@tko]

Blasphemy.

Mate, I'm English. Most American's can't grasp the concept of turning right. :razz:

And I've never seen the Daytona 500 on TV here. We have more sophisticated TV programmes such as 'The Simpsons' and 'Sex in the City', that people prefer to watch over here. :D

I'd be interested in trying to run either of these if I am free at the time. Not in a BF1 for the Indy one, though. No way I could put up with listening to that thing hitting the rev limiter for 3 hours straight.

The 500 is for FO8.

Just turn your sound off! :tilt:

It is rather annoying isn't it! Why not copy your UF1 sound, and rename it to BF1_UF1 and use that instead!

Nice but please make in a weekend and at morning if sunday, if friday/saturday it can be all times.

But think most people can race in weekends. Myself can't join any races because theyre early on sundays..

It'll be on a Saturday, almost for sure.

[lizardfolk]

Mate, I'm English. Most American's can't grasp the concept of turning right. :razz:


RIGHT? WHAT IS THIS RIGHT YOU SPEAK OF? :tilt:

Anyway, I would love to join but I can't guarantee anything because I have a very limited schedule. I hope I'll be able to join :( I'll just have to wait and see when the official time is

[J@tko]

RIGHT? WHAT IS THIS RIGHT YOU SPEAK OF? :tilt:

Haha! In my sig :D

Anyway, I would love to join but I can't guarantee anything because I have a very limited schedule. I hope I'll be able to join :( I'll just have to wait and see when the official time is

OK - still deciding on when it'll be.

ATM, the 250 will be on a Sat in March.
The 500 will be on the last Sat in June or one of first two in July.

[racer hero]

Is the 250 going to be on the weekend after the march break? This is the date I would suggest.

[J@tko]

Is the 250 going to be on the weekend after the march break? This is the date I would suggest.

What date's that?

[racer hero]

Saturday March 8th or Saturday March 15th.

[lizardfolk]

Are we going to get a subforum? Also, weekends would likely be good.

What would be the time? Can it be around 23:00 GMT?

And will we be registered as real names or nicknames (real names makes it seem more professional).

[-NightFly-]

What would be the time? Can it be around 23:00 GMT?

way too late for me it's 1 am here then.
20:00 or21:00 should do better :D

[racer hero]

20:00 or 21:00 would probablly be good.

[mutt107]

i want to join!! :)

[lizardfolk]

Shoot that is too early for me. I guess my only option now would be to join the summer race.

[J@tko]

The 250 race will be on one of the dates suggested above by Racer Hero, and it will start at 2000 GMT.

There will be a 30 min quali session - with 6 sets of 5 cars qualifying for 5 mins each.

The race proper will start at 2045 GMT, then it will be done by 2200-2230 GMT.

[racer hero]

What would be cool would be if we could do an insim that when a car crashes it slows all cars down after they catch the leaders and puts the speed limiter on.

[Mtelling]

Yeah that sounds good.

[-NightFly-]

Is DR gonna borrow their server for this raceevent?

[J@tko]

Are we gonna borrow DR's server for this raceevent?

Only if mccgas can't give us his server(s).

[-NightFly-]

Only if mccgas can't give us his server(s).
does he have runs them in his own pc or he uses special server....just curious because in one case servers might get unstable if they get crowded

[J@tko]

does he have runs them in his own pc or he uses special server....just curious because in one case servers might get unstable if they get crowded

He has his own dedi server. Anyway, DR have 4 servers that are not usually occupied anyway so if we have any issues, then I'm sure DR won't mind us changing.

[mcgas001]

I have a rented server i use for mysql database's, lfs servers, and other stuff, its on a 1GB connection lol :)

[-NightFly-]

I have a rented server i use for mysql database's, lfs servers, and other stuff, its on a 1GB connection lol :)
good to hear...that should do fine, I just thought if u haven't got any reliable server then halfords racing would kindly offer his help with this problem. But I think we have a reliable server offered by mcgas here.

BTW nice signature mcgas :D

[Zachary Zoomy]

for interesting oval racing, try the FZ5, you have to brake for corners.

[-NightFly-]

for interesting oval racing, try the FZ5, you have to brake for corners.
braking on oval?...what next? right turn somewhere? :D

[lizardfolk]

for interesting oval racing, try the FZ5, you have to brake for corners.

The best way to have braking on corners is to add a short track oval. I made one before (it was only .41 miles LOL)

[NtrlBrnRacer]

thanks for letting me help out J@tko :thumb::D

[lizardfolk]

For the stock car race how about using the XRT only instead of the GTR class? Closer racing, and handles more like a stock car

[NtrlBrnRacer]

For the stock car race how about using the XRT only instead of the GTR class? Closer racing, and handles more like a stock car
Because we really want this to be as realistic as we can. But we might be able to make an XRT league or something if J@tko is up for it. :thumb:

[J@tko]

For the stock car race how about using the XRT only instead of the GTR class? Closer racing, and handles more like a stock car

Good idea, but I think that we'll stay with the GTR class for more realistic power. (Unless Bob's tweak comes out in time........ :scratchch)

But we might be able to make an XRT league or something if J@tko is up for it. :thumb:

You must be joking :D

I've barely time for the LFSBC and this, let alone anything else :razz:

[NtrlBrnRacer]

Yeah kinda figured that :)

[mutt107]

i have a idea but u probably wont like it XRG with this set 47861 very i mean VERY close racing up to 5 wide sometimes just try it sometimes theres a server called Geuss motorsports it runs that most of the time.

[UncleBenny]

Personally I'd rather race the XRG or XRT for the stock car one too.

[evilpimp]

Same... One that isnt just pressing on the throttle as hard as you can during the whole thing..If I do join i'd rather have something more challenging where id have to let the throttle a bit maybe and at the right time accelerate again..

[J@tko]

How about XRT with LFSTune?

7 litre V8 - 450 bhp?

Is that about right?

[Dennis93]

i vote for 500 Kyoto Fo8 !!!
And im in!

XRG is a great car here too , its more realistic , but it becomes almost a short track u have to slow down at the last bend ! but XRG is far the best yes!

[evilpimp]

:DI like. Thatll be kinda hard on the tires :P but as long as its not just full throttle the whole time it can be fun!

[Fischfix]

+1000

i'll be there if i am not on holiday...

btw. look at LFSCAR subforum, we are discussion a new season and this might be of interest as we might switch to fo8 for some indy action..,

[UncleBenny]

+1000

i'll be there if i am not on holiday...

btw. look at LFSCAR subforum, we are discussion a new season and this might be of interest as we might switch to fo8 for some indy action..,

Shouldn't you change the name then? Seems weird to simulate indy racing with a name that kind of refers to nascar.

IRLFS

[Fischfix]

at the moment we are running several things under the LFSCAR name, even a GP79 mod league for rFactor. the original lfscar league was also called: LFSCAR 360degree.tk CUP SERIES. as nascar also runs different leagues with different sponsors i do not have a problem with that though

an indy type of league would be called something like: "LFSINDY" hosted on LFSCAR.com or something like that.

[TFalke55]

I'd like to take part here are some ideas:
an co-operation event with LFSCAR??? like it is in the Indy Racing League you can sent your drivers who then could compete again "single day event racers" (just a thought)
I think the grid limit should be 30 (to have an amount of drivers, wich can be devided by 3 :D ), because 34 is not possible. (33+SC, in the IRL Indy500)... another point would be, that the Pace Car should be used for the information/warm-up laps, as a kind of warm-up or training for the Caution Periods, and like in Indy it could be a three file rolling (Indy-)start (for the single seaters).

well back to my co-op idea: i thought this could be usefull, as a field of noobs, wouldn't make sense. (would become a demolition derby) They should have some experience with oval racing. And especially experience with FO8 in the Single Seater Event.

Someone thought of a live-broadcast like the MoE did? You can adress yourself to game-tv.com and ask for a live broadcast, or at least for a broadcast.

[J@tko]

Just had a little spin with XRG and LFS Tune.

If we have 8 litre V8, and 1 power, 1.6 torque and default whatever the other one is, then it's a pretty scary ride :)

The tyres will be an issue. Let's see if anyone comes up with a slickmod.

On the subject of the FO8, if there's a tune out there for it in time for the race, I'll produce one that's really close to indy cars.

On the subject of teaming up with LFSCAR, it's a great idea. @Fischfix - Keep me up to date with progress

On the subject of broadcasting - great idea. Yes please - but someone else will have to sort that out please - I've no idea :D

[mutt107]

i guess people like my idea :shrug:

[J@tko]

And for the FOX - like an indy car -

V8
3500cc
0.38 Power
2.225 torque

However, there are some tyre issues :scratchch

[koolby]

/me is not interested anymore once mods are used
but nevermind me :p

[J@tko]

/me is not interested anymore once mods are used
but nevermind me :p


We're only using mods cos the XRT will be quite slow if we keep it normal. We want it to be as realistic as possible. Unless someone can get slicks onto the XRT we won't be using it anyway. And ATM, we're using normal FO8 anyway.

[TFalke55]

that a mod should be used for these races... hmm... I don't know how to judge on it... but, well... hmm... in the first moment i dislike it...

but! since when, mods which change the game itself are able to be played online???
I seem to have missed something

[Dru]

We're only using mods cos the XRT will be quite slow if we keep it normal. We want it to be as realistic as possible. Unless someone can get slicks onto the XRT we won't be using it anyway. And ATM, we're using normal FO8 anyway.


I thought the begineers cup was an entry way into the world of LFS and LFS racing..... not LFS tuning....



From someone who has run a league before, try and keep it simple.... don't mess with whats there already with tune etc etc people are interested in your cup becuase of the simple format, stick to it and stop messing ideas around, you'll only end up with annoying your entrants and thus having a smaller field, who only then drive tuned cars which means when they play normal LFS, they will still be beginners.... right? :really:

[J@tko]

that a mod should be used for these races... hmm... I don't know how to judge on it... but, well... hmm... in the first moment i dislike it...

but! since when, mods which change the game itself are able to be played online???
I seem to have missed something

I thought the begineers cup was an entry way into the world of LFS and LFS racing..... not LFS tuning....



From someone who has run a league before, try and keep it simple.... don't mess with whats there already with tune etc etc people are interested in your cup becuase of the simple format, stick to it and stop messing ideas around, you'll only end up with annoying your entrants and thus having a smaller field, who only then drive tuned cars which means when they play normal LFS, they will still be beginners.... right? :really:


K guys - thanks for the input. (BTW Dru - this isn't a round of the LFSBC!)

We'll keep the FO8 as it is for the 500 then.

What do people want for the 250 (if it happens)?
GTR's
Modded XRT
anything else?

I'll prod Victor again for a sub-forum.

[NtrlBrnRacer]

Hey J@tko think we can have PRC sponser the league?

[J@tko]

Hey J@tko think we can have PRC sponser the league?

Who are PRC?

[TFalke55]

I'll prod Victor again for a sub-forum.
If i understand you right, you already tried to get one.
Well, it may be an idea to create some head organisation. e.g. "The LFS beginners Cup by League XYZ Promotion" and "The Kyoto 500 Indy style by League XYT Promotion (and LFSCAR)"

As the beginners cup, and these two single day events are not that huge like the Masters Of Endurance, it would increase your chances... in this case you could make a special thread to form the organisation (I mean, deciding who the VideoBroadcaster is, and so on)

[J@tko]

If i understand you right, you already tried to get one.
Well, it may be an idea to create some head organisation. e.g. "The LFS beginners Cup by League XYZ Promotion" and "The Kyoto 500 Indy style by League XYT Promotion (and LFSCAR)"

Nice idea. The LFS BC is by New Dimension Racing Events.

We could have the Kyoto 500 by PRC (whoever they are!)


Thinking about it, I'll ask if we can put this in the LFSCAR forums.

[TFalke55]

sry that my posting devellopes in chatting :D but my thoughts flashing uncontrolablely through my mind :D

an issue you'd have to face, when using tuned cars in multiplayer is "cheating" I don't know if this LFStune is that smart to avoid a laptime to be sent to LFSWorld. I doubt it at this point. We'd see many new world records, or, more brutal, many cheaters.

back to the broadcasting: When the dates are fixed, I'd sent the application to game-tv.com ,as their hompage is in german. That would be my offer to you.

[J@tko]

sry that my posting devellopes in chatting :D

What? :D

an issue you'd have to face, when using tuned cars in multiplayer is "cheating" I don't know if this LFStune is that smart to avoid a laptime to be sent to LFSWorld. I doubt it at this point. We'd see many new world records, or, more brutal, many cheaters.

The cheating aspect is fixed as only one 'setup' will be allowed. The pbs will be sent to LFSW, but people should (:)) delete them afterwards. Anyway, WRs are only in hotlapping.

back to the broadcasting: When the dates are fixed, I'd sent the application to game-tv.com ,as their hompage is in german. That would be my offer to you.

Fantastic. Cheers mate :thumb:

[NtrlBrnRacer]

PRC is my new team. :) They were wondering if i could use my host and sponser the comp. and Falke if you can you think that you can put something in on game-tv for kyto 500? thanks :)

[J@tko]

PRC is my new team. :) They were wondering if i could use my host and sponser the comp.

We have a host thanks. If you sponsor it - what could you give us in return?

[NtrlBrnRacer]

We have a host thanks. If you sponsor it - what could you give us in return?
What do you need atm?

[J@tko]

What do you need atm?


Help! :D:D:D And lots of it!!!!!

Basically, I need general help in organisation e.t.c.

Would you be able to offer to be my co-organiser? Basically answering questions, setting up stuff and organising the (coming) sub-forum. It may also be linking with the LFSCAR series. We'll see.

No help ATM, but I will do soon.

[NtrlBrnRacer]

Help! :D:D:D And lots of it!!!!!

Basically, I need general help in organisation e.t.c.

Would you be able to offer to be my co-organiser? Basically answering questions, setting up stuff and organising the (coming) sub-forum. It may also be linking with the LFSCAR series. We'll see.

No help ATM, but I will do soon.
Yeah, i can help out with whatever you need. Just tell me what you need help with and i will be happy to.

Thanks from PRC :)

[PMD9409]

What do people want for the 250 (if it happens)?
GTR's
Modded XRT
anything else?

We're only using mods cos the XRT will be quite slow if we keep it normal. We want it to be as realistic as possible. Unless someone can get slicks onto the XRT we won't be using it anyway.

Anything other than the road XR's (mainly going for the XRT) is just pointless. The GTR's are no where near as fun because like many have said its flat out. A FZ5 is probably too deadly for a 30 car field (I wouldn't mind it using it though):). The XRT mph range at kyoto is from 130 to 150mph, and the tires (supers) can last about 100 laps (when running wr times). The XRT is probably the most competitive (besides the XRG but thats too many laps for a big one not too happen in them :D). So I'm with the others that like the XRT.:nod:

I honestly don't understand why you would want to modify the XRT. To me it IS the most realistic as far as feel. But it sounds as if you want to modify the XRT into an XRR (which we all know is boring). I'm lost at what your trying to do J@tko mainly because your trying to fix something thats not broken.

Anyways, I honestly don't agree with the "modding" your trying to do (I won't attempt to make it if you go this route). But if its not a XRG/T or FZ5 that is going to be raced then I also am not going to attempt to run in this.

Even though I would participate if you restricted the FZ5 to the XRT (don't know why you would want to), don't do it because they handle completely different.

Oh and btw, is it 250 miles or laps? Because 250 miles is only 130-135 laps.:scratchch

[NtrlBrnRacer]

Anything other than the road XR's (mainly going for the XRT) is just pointless. The GTR's are no where near as fun because like many have said its flat out. A FZ5 is probably too deadly for a 30 car field (I wouldn't mind it using it though):). The XRT mph range at kyoto is from 130 to 150mph, and the tires (supers) can last about 100 laps (when running wr times). The XRT is probably the most competitive (besides the XRG but thats too many laps for a big one not too happen in them :D). So I'm with the others that like the XRT.:nod:

I honestly don't understand why you would want to modify the XRT. To me it IS the most realistic as far as feel. But it sounds as if you want to modify the XRT into an XRR (which we all know is boring). I'm lost at what your trying to do J@tko mainly because your trying to fix something thats not broken.

Anyways, I honestly don't agree with the "modding" your trying to do (I won't attempt to make it if you go this route). But if its not a XRG/T or FZ5 that is going to be raced then I also am not going to attempt to run in this.

Even though I would participate if you restricted the FZ5 to the XRT (don't know why you would want to), don't do it because they handle completely different.

Oh and btw, is it 250 miles or laps? Because 250 miles is only 130-135 laps.:scratchch
If you dont want this there is always the Kyoto 500 the the FO8 cars?

[PMD9409]

If you dont want this there is always the Kyoto 500 the the FO8 cars?

Never said I wouldn't do the 500 :D. But I would rather do the XRT oval :). Well... the "250":razz:.

[NtrlBrnRacer]

Maybe we can have the same thing with the regular XRTs and the "modded" XRTs in 2 different days..

[mutt107]

K guys - thanks for the input. (BTW Dru - this isn't a round of the LFSBC!)

We'll keep the FO8 as it is for the 500 then.

What do people want for the 250 (if it happens)?
GTR's
Modded XRT
anything else?

I'll prod Victor again for a sub-forum.
XRG!!

[evilpimp]

24hp UF1 :D:D:D:D:D:D:D

[h3adbang3r]

How about (if possible) modded GTR's? Bring the top speed to around 205 mph, and you will definately have to lift for corners :scratchch

[evilpimp]

:nod::scratchch sounds interusting...

[Knight_Atack]

The project looks interesting. If I'm not working on race day, I could participate.

As well, if you need skins (ex: for safety car [as mentioned previously]), I can do those too. Just need info on the car and what (sponsors/text) to put on. :)

[PMD9409]

How about (if possible) modded GTR's? Bring the top speed to around 205 mph, and you will definately have to lift for corners :scratchch

Tried it, NOT for long races. But if you can make the tires last longer than 10 laps, please tell me what you did.:shrug:

[NtrlBrnRacer]

The project looks interesting. If I'm not working on race day, I could participate.

As well, if you need skins (ex: for safety car [as mentioned previously]), I can do those too. Just need info on the car and what (sponsors/text) to put on. :)
Well PRC is going to sponsor... www.pacracingteam.co.nr (http://www.pacracingteam.co.nr) if you need to look at a banner or something and we WILL need SC skins so if you could just put Kyoto 500 on the car that would be great. Dont know what car though me and J@tko are going to talk about it.

[evilpimp]

Well PRC is going to sponsor... www.pacracingteam.co.nr (http://www.pacracingteam.co.nr) if you need to look at a banner or something and we WILL need SC skins so if you could just put Kyoto 500 on the car that would be great. Dont know what car though me and J@tko are going to talk about it.
good to see ur gettin implicated :P

[NtrlBrnRacer]

good to see ur gettin implicated :P
Just trying to help out :thumb:

[NtrlBrnRacer]

Sorry for double posting. But for the SC was thinking maybe we could use the FZ5 or the RAC? but its up to you J@tko.

[J@tko]

Anything other than the road XR's (mainly going for the XRT) is just pointless. The GTR's are no where near as fun because like many have said its flat out. A FZ5 is probably too deadly for a 30 car field (I wouldn't mind it using it though):). The XRT mph range at kyoto is from 130 to 150mph, and the tires (supers) can last about 100 laps (when running wr times). The XRT is probably the most competitive (besides the XRG but thats too many laps for a big one not too happen in them :D). So I'm with the others that like the XRT.:nod:

XRG!!

I think we'll be going for the XRT for the 250. (Sorry about the modding. I had it in my mind for some reason that we wanted a modded XRT, when the plain one was perfectly fine :D)

Oh and btw, is it 250 miles or laps? Because 250 miles is only 130-135 laps.:scratchch

132 laps. 250 miles.



24hp UF1 :D:D:D:D:D:D:D

No.

How about (if possible) modded GTR's? Bring the top speed to around 205 mph, and you will definately have to lift for corners :scratchch


No-ones produced an GTR mod yet.
Tyres will burn really quickly.If I went for ultimate realism, then I would tweak the GTRs - massive V8s e.t.c. But that's not realistically possible ATM.

The project looks interesting. If I'm not working on race day, I could participate.

As well, if you need skins (ex: for safety car [as mentioned previously]), I can do those too. Just need info on the car and what (sponsors/text) to put on. :)

But for the SC was thinking maybe we could use the FZ5 or the RAC? but its up to you J@tko.

Hm. Safety car will possibly be an FZ5. Or an LX4. Or RB4. Yet to decide! :tilt:

[TFalke55]

so... I made two logos, as some between school stuff work... i saved them so that the date could be added, the main sponsor and the "racing promotion ( :D )"

[J@tko]

so... I made two logos, as some between school stuff work... i saved them so that the date could be added, the main sponsor and the "racing promotion ( :D )"

Great! :thumb:

What does the Japanese bit mean? :scratchch

[TFalke55]

Kyoto... since I've copied it from Wikipedia :D

hopefully Wikipedia is this time right!

BTW: I attatched a layout wich was used for the Kyoto 300 a few years ago... It was a GTR-Class event


And I have another idea: Teamspeak or another client for the racecontrol to give the information about cautions directly to the driver as audio warning, and the optical warning by using these "big" caution message (I mean the way like normaly the Blue and Yellow flag appeaer on screen.
Also, that would be a suggestion to each driver, to get someone you trust, to watch LFSRemote, sothat you know when and where a car appears ;)

[NtrlBrnRacer]

I think we'll be going for the XRT for the 250. (Sorry about the modding. I had it in my mind for some reason that we wanted a modded XRT, when the plain one was perfectly fine :D)



132 laps. 250 miles.





No.




No-ones produced an GTR mod yet.
Tyres will burn really quickly.If I went for ultimate realism, then I would tweak the GTRs - massive V8s e.t.c. But that's not realistically possible ATM.





Hm. Safety car will possibly be an FZ5. Or an LX4. Or RB4. Yet to decide! :tilt:
I think we should use RB4 or FZ5 IMO just seems more easyier to use.

Kyoto... since I've copied it from Wikipedia :D

hopefully Wikipedia is this time right!

BTW: I attatched a layout wich was used for the Kyoto 300 a few years ago... It was a GTR-Class event


And I have another idea: Teamspeak or another client for the racecontrol to give the information about cautions directly to the driver as audio warning, and the optical warning by using these "big" caution message (I mean the way like normaly the Blue and Yellow flag appeaer on screen.
Also, that would be a suggestion to each driver, to get someone you trust, to watch LFSRemote, sothat you know when and where a car appears ;)
Dont worry we will have all this straightend out by race time. :thumb:

[mutt107]

this is going along nicely :)

[NtrlBrnRacer]

this is going along nicely :)
Haha getting there! :) Anyone wanna make some sigs for LFS forum for the Kyoto 500 and 250?

[J@tko]

Anyone wanna make some sigs for LFS forum for the Kyoto 500 and 250?

That would be great!

But I've no idea how! :shrug:

[NtrlBrnRacer]

I might be able to get someone to do it but they might need an idea to work off of..

[J@tko]

I might be able to get someone to do it but they might need an idea to work off of..

OK. It needs to be just like any other userbar (e.g CTRA). I'd like a nice background (something like a car on an oval or something like that).

Moving across to the right, the Kyoto 250/500 logo (see up) (and smaller!), then whatever a person has to do with it. I could have Organiser, you sponser and the others fans/competitors e.t.c

That's a basic idea. Go from there.

[NtrlBrnRacer]

ok do we have marshalls, SC, ect. ready? or should i get people for that?

[Falcon140]

if you have anything photoshop related

I'm your guy. :thumb:

[NtrlBrnRacer]

if you have anything photoshop related

I'm your guy. :thumb:
Hey falcon you think you can do that?

[Falcon140]

With some details, Yup. :)

[NtrlBrnRacer]

With some details, Yup. :)
Guess its all you then :)

[Falcon140]

I took a crack at a logo...

If you like it, I'll do the 250.

[NtrlBrnRacer]

Wow falcon thats REALLY good! Do you know how to make userbars?

[-NightFly-]

I can look after when I have spare time about userbar:tilt:

[evilpimp]

I took a crack at a logo...

If you like it, I'll do the 250.

WOW. That is amazing O_O

[UncleBenny]

I like that logo alot.

[TFalke55]

better then mine :)

[J@tko]

I took a crack at a logo...

If you like it, I'll do the 250.

That's fantastic. Can the 250 one be basically the same, just with different colours?

Cheers - great work.

[Falcon140]

That's fantastic. Can the 250 one be basically the same, just with different colours?

Cheers - great work.


Got any colors in mind?

[NtrlBrnRacer]

Got any colors in mind?
Not really anything in mind, so just do your best. We just need all this stuff so we can start making the rules and ect...

[UncleBenny]

Got any colors in mind?

I'd just change the red to green, or something else simple like that.

[J@tko]

Not really anything in mind, so just do your best. We just need all this stuff so we can start making the rules and ect...

I'd just change the red to green, or something else simple like that.

Yep - nice and simple - always makes the best logos.

[Fischfix]

very nice logo, just change the blue to black (as a grafic designer...)

[J@tko]

We now have our own sub-section:

http://www.lfsforum.net/forumdisplay.php?f=190