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Roadie
9th January 2008, 21:15
Here is what it put down.

http://www.area51.infiniteorigin.com/lfsdyno.gif

Conclusion: :shrug:


:D

rainspecialist
9th January 2008, 21:21
uhh wat car?

:really:

dawesdust_12
9th January 2008, 21:23
He's being cheeky, he's saying that LFS cars have no Torque curve, just a torque spike.

Roadie
9th January 2008, 21:24
He's being cheeky, he's saying that LFS cars have no Torque curve, just a torque spike.

:x:schwitz:

chanoman315
9th January 2008, 21:24
didnt understand...

dawesdust_12
9th January 2008, 21:25
Roadie, I didn't mean it in an angry way, I was just making it easy for people to understand.

Roadie
9th January 2008, 21:28
Roadie, I didn't mean it in an angry way, I was just making it easy for people to understand.

Oh no, I didn't take any offense lol.

spoop
9th January 2008, 22:02
the torque and hp are equal at 5252rpm, it must be real

JeffR
10th January 2008, 00:01
I thought that graph was the tire grip curve for the LX6.

lococost
10th January 2008, 05:44
HP=Cst*RPM*torque, where Cst is a know constant, so you're talking absolute rubbish Rodie.

Bob Smith
10th January 2008, 07:35
And there was me thinking somebody had got the updated torque curve plots for all cars in patch Y and saved me the bother.... guess not.

thisnameistaken
10th January 2008, 07:40
And there was me thinking somebody had got the updated torque curve plots for all cars in patch Y and saved me the bother.... guess not.

I was going to do it, but then I realised I didn't have a clue what a torque curve plot was. So I baked you a cookie. But I eated it.

tristancliffe
10th January 2008, 08:41
He vaguely got the peak in the right place though, using the tangent rule

J.B.
10th January 2008, 11:30
Don't get it.

JamesF1
10th January 2008, 11:39
And you never will (http://bash.org/?262353).

Shotglass
10th January 2008, 12:27
dont discuss physics with him
(Roadh0g) seriously... who uses the metric system on the internets
(Roadh0g) 90% of the people have no clue what you are saying :P

Byku
10th January 2008, 14:39
Here is what it put down.

http://www.area51.infiniteorigin.com/lfsdyno.gif

Conclusion: :shrug:


:D

How did You put LFS on dyno? :really: Whad does it mean? That LFS doesn't have proper torque curves? O.o

Roadie
10th January 2008, 16:58
dont discuss physics with him
(Roadh0g) seriously... who uses the metric system on the internets
(Roadh0g) 90% of the people have no clue what you are saying :P

sarcasm buddy... just like this thread.:thumb:

but seriously, look at the uf1... it has a 1 liter powered by 4 hamsters and makes like 90ft/lbs at 3000rpms.. more torque than hp... UF1 = diesel

Byku
10th January 2008, 17:04
sarcasm buddy... just like this thread.:thumb:

but seriously, look at the uf1... it has a 1 liter powered by 4 hamsters and makes like 90ft/lbs at 3000rpms.. more torque than hp... UF1 = diesel

lol... so there was something wrong about this post :P. Dammit :D

tristancliffe
10th January 2008, 17:15
Maybe it's just got a long stroke? There doesn't appear to be much wrong with the torque curves in LFS really. Perhaps one or two are a smidgen peakier than they ought to be, but hardly a major thing (when we all race equal cars).

Hallen
10th January 2008, 17:25
My BMW 323i inline 6 cylinder has 170hp and 181ft/lbs of torque and I guarantee you it is not a diesel.

I have been meaning to ask this before:

Bob, how do you come up with the torque curves for LFS cars? You can't do it with just the peak stated values can you?

Bob Smith
10th January 2008, 18:08
No, I use RAF exports of the longitudinal forces from a carefully crafted setup, accelerating in a high gear, then apply corrections to try and counteract what I think is being summed, and try and take slip ratio off that (or at least I will when I get around to trying it again).

ACCAkut
10th January 2008, 18:24
There are torque curves for the LFS cars? Where can i find them? (even if they are a bit outdated)

Gizz
10th January 2008, 18:47
No, I use RAF exports of the longitudinal forces from a carefully crafted setup, accelerating in a high gear, then apply corrections to try and counteract what I think is being summed, and try and take slip ratio off that (or at least I will when I get around to trying it again).

:jawdrop: you mean to say there is now crystal or wands involved in your work after all???? and i thought you were............ magic, i always pictured you in a star clad hat and a long black robe.... oohh well...

bobs human everyone, nothing to see here.....

you have just lost a lot of friends bOb :D

ghost racer
10th January 2008, 18:48
My BMW 323i inline 6 cylinder has 170hp and 181ft/lbs of torque and I guarantee you it is not a diesel.


Not at 3k rpm's

Hallen
10th January 2008, 18:55
Not at 3k rpm's
No, at 5500rpm for peak hp if you want to be exact.
The point is, torque higher than hp does not = diesel, nor does a low reving engine.

Roadie
10th January 2008, 19:04
No, at 5500rpm for peak hp if you want to be exact.
The point is, torque higher than hp does not = diesel, nor does a low reving engine.


I know that.. But the fact that its a 1 liter... lol

Bob Smith
10th January 2008, 19:05
There are torque curves for the LFS cars? Where can i find them? (even if they are a bit outdated)

http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?p=324280#post324280

Hallen
10th January 2008, 22:38
I know that.. But the fact that its a 1 liter... lol
lol, yeah, you sure don't see many 1 liter cars here in the US, do you? You see plenty on motorcycles though :D
I guess that small of an engine moving that much weight (relatively speaking) would force you into a high torque at low rev engine. Otherwise, you would be tac'ing out just to get the car moving.

Dygear
11th January 2008, 11:56
dont discuss physics with him
(Roadh0g) seriously... who uses the metric system on the internets
(Roadh0g) 90% of the people have no clue what you are saying :P

Yeah, like only the ENTIRE scientific community.

morcs
11th January 2008, 13:01
http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/4769/rikerfacepalmpicardstarjs0.jpg

mr_x
11th January 2008, 13:30
No, I use RAF exports of the longitudinal forces from a carefully crafted setup, accelerating in a high gear, then apply corrections to try and counteract what I think is being summed, and try and take slip ratio off that (or at least I will when I get around to trying it again).
Sounds good... but you lost me at 'No' :scratchch:shrug:

Roadie
11th January 2008, 18:03
facepalm.jpg

im amazed no one commented on my awesome mspaint dyno graph?