View Full Version : I decided to put an LFS car on the Dyno...
Roadie
9th January 2008, 21:15
Here is what it put down.
http://www.area51.infiniteorigin.com/lfsdyno.gif
Conclusion: :shrug:
:D
rainspecialist
9th January 2008, 21:21
uhh wat car?
:really:
dawesdust_12
9th January 2008, 21:23
He's being cheeky, he's saying that LFS cars have no Torque curve, just a torque spike.
Roadie
9th January 2008, 21:24
He's being cheeky, he's saying that LFS cars have no Torque curve, just a torque spike.
:x:schwitz:
chanoman315
9th January 2008, 21:24
didnt understand...
dawesdust_12
9th January 2008, 21:25
Roadie, I didn't mean it in an angry way, I was just making it easy for people to understand.
Roadie
9th January 2008, 21:28
Roadie, I didn't mean it in an angry way, I was just making it easy for people to understand.
Oh no, I didn't take any offense lol.
spoop
9th January 2008, 22:02
the torque and hp are equal at 5252rpm, it must be real
JeffR
10th January 2008, 00:01
I thought that graph was the tire grip curve for the LX6.
lococost
10th January 2008, 05:44
HP=Cst*RPM*torque, where Cst is a know constant, so you're talking absolute rubbish Rodie.
Bob Smith
10th January 2008, 07:35
And there was me thinking somebody had got the updated torque curve plots for all cars in patch Y and saved me the bother.... guess not.
thisnameistaken
10th January 2008, 07:40
And there was me thinking somebody had got the updated torque curve plots for all cars in patch Y and saved me the bother.... guess not.
I was going to do it, but then I realised I didn't have a clue what a torque curve plot was. So I baked you a cookie. But I eated it.
tristancliffe
10th January 2008, 08:41
He vaguely got the peak in the right place though, using the tangent rule
J.B.
10th January 2008, 11:30
Don't get it.
JamesF1
10th January 2008, 11:39
And you never will (http://bash.org/?262353).
Shotglass
10th January 2008, 12:27
dont discuss physics with him
(Roadh0g) seriously... who uses the metric system on the internets
(Roadh0g) 90% of the people have no clue what you are saying :P
Byku
10th January 2008, 14:39
Here is what it put down.
http://www.area51.infiniteorigin.com/lfsdyno.gif
Conclusion: :shrug:
:D
How did You put LFS on dyno? :really: Whad does it mean? That LFS doesn't have proper torque curves? O.o
Roadie
10th January 2008, 16:58
dont discuss physics with him
(Roadh0g) seriously... who uses the metric system on the internets
(Roadh0g) 90% of the people have no clue what you are saying :P
sarcasm buddy... just like this thread.:thumb:
but seriously, look at the uf1... it has a 1 liter powered by 4 hamsters and makes like 90ft/lbs at 3000rpms.. more torque than hp... UF1 = diesel
Byku
10th January 2008, 17:04
sarcasm buddy... just like this thread.:thumb:
but seriously, look at the uf1... it has a 1 liter powered by 4 hamsters and makes like 90ft/lbs at 3000rpms.. more torque than hp... UF1 = diesel
lol... so there was something wrong about this post :P. Dammit :D
tristancliffe
10th January 2008, 17:15
Maybe it's just got a long stroke? There doesn't appear to be much wrong with the torque curves in LFS really. Perhaps one or two are a smidgen peakier than they ought to be, but hardly a major thing (when we all race equal cars).
Hallen
10th January 2008, 17:25
My BMW 323i inline 6 cylinder has 170hp and 181ft/lbs of torque and I guarantee you it is not a diesel.
I have been meaning to ask this before:
Bob, how do you come up with the torque curves for LFS cars? You can't do it with just the peak stated values can you?
Bob Smith
10th January 2008, 18:08
No, I use RAF exports of the longitudinal forces from a carefully crafted setup, accelerating in a high gear, then apply corrections to try and counteract what I think is being summed, and try and take slip ratio off that (or at least I will when I get around to trying it again).
ACCAkut
10th January 2008, 18:24
There are torque curves for the LFS cars? Where can i find them? (even if they are a bit outdated)
Gizz
10th January 2008, 18:47
No, I use RAF exports of the longitudinal forces from a carefully crafted setup, accelerating in a high gear, then apply corrections to try and counteract what I think is being summed, and try and take slip ratio off that (or at least I will when I get around to trying it again).
:jawdrop: you mean to say there is now crystal or wands involved in your work after all???? and i thought you were............ magic, i always pictured you in a star clad hat and a long black robe.... oohh well...
bobs human everyone, nothing to see here.....
you have just lost a lot of friends bOb :D
ghost racer
10th January 2008, 18:48
My BMW 323i inline 6 cylinder has 170hp and 181ft/lbs of torque and I guarantee you it is not a diesel.
Not at 3k rpm's
Hallen
10th January 2008, 18:55
Not at 3k rpm's
No, at 5500rpm for peak hp if you want to be exact.
The point is, torque higher than hp does not = diesel, nor does a low reving engine.
Roadie
10th January 2008, 19:04
No, at 5500rpm for peak hp if you want to be exact.
The point is, torque higher than hp does not = diesel, nor does a low reving engine.
I know that.. But the fact that its a 1 liter... lol
Bob Smith
10th January 2008, 19:05
There are torque curves for the LFS cars? Where can i find them? (even if they are a bit outdated)
http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?p=324280#post324280
Hallen
10th January 2008, 22:38
I know that.. But the fact that its a 1 liter... lol
lol, yeah, you sure don't see many 1 liter cars here in the US, do you? You see plenty on motorcycles though :D
I guess that small of an engine moving that much weight (relatively speaking) would force you into a high torque at low rev engine. Otherwise, you would be tac'ing out just to get the car moving.
Dygear
11th January 2008, 11:56
dont discuss physics with him
(Roadh0g) seriously... who uses the metric system on the internets
(Roadh0g) 90% of the people have no clue what you are saying :P
Yeah, like only the ENTIRE scientific community.
morcs
11th January 2008, 13:01
http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/4769/rikerfacepalmpicardstarjs0.jpg
mr_x
11th January 2008, 13:30
No, I use RAF exports of the longitudinal forces from a carefully crafted setup, accelerating in a high gear, then apply corrections to try and counteract what I think is being summed, and try and take slip ratio off that (or at least I will when I get around to trying it again).
Sounds good... but you lost me at 'No' :scratchch:shrug:
Roadie
11th January 2008, 18:03
facepalm.jpg
im amazed no one commented on my awesome mspaint dyno graph?
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