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Vendetta
12th December 2005, 16:21
In options you can choose what day is start of the week. Well, my question is. What day is start of the week? Isnt it monday? Or is it sunday...?
NotAnIllusion
12th December 2005, 16:25
The Bible clearly makes the Sabbath the last day of the week, but does not share how that corresponds to our 7 day week. Yet through extra-biblical sources it is possible to determine that the Sabbath at the time of Christ corresponds to our current 'Saturday.' Therefore it is common Jewish and Christian practice to regard Sunday as the first day of the week (as is also evident from the Portuguese names for the week days). However, the fact that, for example, Russian uses the name "second" for Tuesday, indicates that some nations regard Monday as the first day.
In international standard ISO-8601 the International Organization for Standardization (ISO) has decreed that Monday shall be the first day of the week.
Source: http://webexhibits.org/calendars/week.html
In the modern calendar IMO it should be monday, regardless of what it used to be. :P I'd go with the ISO standard. It's a Intl Standard after all..
Vendetta
12th December 2005, 16:28
Also, does this make a difference at all? If i put in wednsday, what will happen?
Blackout
12th December 2005, 16:33
Oh...its monday today..and I can feel it
Fordman
12th December 2005, 16:52
Oh...its monday today..and I can feel it
Tell me about it :tired:
hrtburnout
12th December 2005, 16:58
It's monday, today I had school from 8:15 to 9:00 and 12:00 to 15:00 :tired:
I HATE SCHOOL :mad:
Bob Smith
12th December 2005, 17:18
It's monday, today I had school from 8:15 to 9:00 and 12:00 to 15:00 :tired:
I HATE SCHOOL :mad:
You'll get no sympathy from me, my days were longer and I had no problems with school. If you hate it you're probably not going there with the right attitude. I've done 4 years more education since I finished school and frankly I'd rather be here than out there in the real world.
Kryten
12th December 2005, 17:56
Saturday and Sunday are the weekend, so Monday is the start of the new week - simple. ;)
AndroidXP
12th December 2005, 17:59
Yeah, I don't understand that fuss about start of the week either. Personally, I couldn't care less than what a thousand year old book tries to tell me - I go with what the society I live in defines. And that is, that I start working on monday, so monday is the start of the week for me.
thisnameistaken
12th December 2005, 18:01
My week starts when I say it starts and not before. The ISO people and christianity can stick their "official" weeks up their respective arses. I never get anything meaningful done before Tuesday, so I pick Tuesday.
hrtburnout
12th December 2005, 18:06
You'll get no sympathy from me, my days were longer and I had no problems with school. If you hate it you're probably not going there with the right attitude. I've done 4 years more education since I finished school and frankly I'd rather be here than out there in the real world.
:)
It's not that it's a long day, but that i have to wake up at 7:00 for not even 1 hour of lessons :(
avih
12th December 2005, 19:11
In Israel, the week starts on Sunday (and the week days names are related to the numbers where sunday is "1st" in hebrew). So here we work sunday-thursday and friday/saturday are the weekend. That's working according to the Hebrew calendar. Saturday is the "holy" day here, quite similar to sunday in most of the western world :)
and btw, the word "sabbath" for saturday is pronounced "Shabat" in hebrew and means (rough translation) "rest" or "no work" :)
Mazz4200
12th December 2005, 22:04
Avih,
In "Ye Oldie" times, didnt a Jewish day start at sundown on one day, and end at sundown the next day ??
Meaning, the start of the week would be late Saturday afternoon !?!
Vendetta
12th December 2005, 23:12
I dont care which day is the start, just what the difference it makes if i change it to other days!!
Tweaker
12th December 2005, 23:23
The difference lies within the forum. It will rearrange how the calendar looks here (well it should, this is what I remember it would do when I changed it)
Stellios
12th December 2005, 23:26
Monday is the start of the week, its when the work starts. Couldnt really give a monkeys about what religion says, Monday is the logical answer.
(SaM)
12th December 2005, 23:40
I always learn Sunday is the first day of the week. Though you start working on Monday, wich I find the more logical first day of the week..
the_angry_angel
12th December 2005, 23:53
Disagree with the ISO standard and you shall incure the wrath of the standards gods!
mrodgers
13th December 2005, 02:44
I work in the automotive industry, so we don't follow the ISO standards. I follow the automotive standard which is QS9000 and TS16949. So, what happens to me? Which day do I start? I think it just means I get to finish and take a break for 2 weeks in July and for 2 weeks over Christmas :thumb: .
Michel 4AGE
13th December 2005, 10:29
I always learn Sunday is the first day of the week. Though you start working on Monday, wich I find the more logical first day of the week..
Same here, always learned that Sunday is the first day of the week :nod:
nikimere
13th December 2005, 10:37
I vote for sunday too :)
hrtburnout
13th December 2005, 10:42
I've always been told that Sunday is the first day of the week, but I think Monday is more logical.
ColeusRattus
13th December 2005, 11:05
Hmm... my eeling tells me that Monday is the first day of a week. But in German, wednesday is "Mittwoch" which is the "middle of the week". But if Monday would be the first day, Thursday would be in the middle...
But honestly, i don't care. Guess everyone could start the week whenever he want's.
mrodgers
13th December 2005, 15:31
Hmm... my eeling tells me that Monday is the first day of a week. But in German, wednesday is "Mittwoch" which is the "middle of the week". But if Monday would be the first day, Thursday would be in the middle...
But honestly, i don't care. Guess everyone could start the week whenever he want's.
Personally I like to start the week at 3:00 PM (or 15:00) on Friday, WHOA, TIME TO GO HOME FOR THE WEEKEND!! Then I like to finish the week off on Monday morning at 7 am and totally skip the time in between the finish and the start.
thisnameistaken
13th December 2005, 15:45
Personally I like to start the week at 3:00 PM (or 15:00) on Friday, WHOA, TIME TO GO HOME FOR THE WEEKEND!! Then I like to finish the week off on Monday morning at 7 am and totally skip the time in between the finish and the start.
Ladies and gentlemen, Mr Homer Simpson.
Vendetta
13th December 2005, 16:02
It's monday, today I had school from 8:15 to 9:00 and 12:00 to 15:00 :tired:
I HATE SCHOOL :mad:
Are you kidding me? Only 8:15 to 9:00 then 12:00 to 15:00. I get up at 6:30, and i dont get home till 16:30. Dont act like you have it bad. I shouldnt either. Its not like school is a torture zone.
hrtburnout
13th December 2005, 17:52
Well, Mr Vendetta, have you read my other posts then? I don't have a problem with 4 hours a day, it's just that it's spread too much over the day. I have days from 8:00 to 15:00 too, but I have no problems with that.
TagForce
13th December 2005, 20:35
Hmm... my eeling tells me that Monday is the first day of a week. But in German, wednesday is "Mittwoch" which is the "middle of the week". But if Monday would be the first day, Thursday would be in the middle...
But honestly, i don't care. Guess everyone could start the week whenever he want's.
Saturday and Sunday is WeekEND... End of the week, as in "not the week anymore"... So there's only 5 days in the week:
monday - montag
tuesday - dienstag
wednesday - mittwoch <-- middle of the week
thursday - donnerstag
friday - freitag
To all dutch peeps that said they've always learned sunday was the start of the week... What kind of elementary school did you go to?
Katholiek, Protestants Christelijk, Gereformeerd, of openbaar?
Bob Smith
13th December 2005, 22:17
sunday...
monday - montag
tuesday - dienstag
wednesday - mittwoch <-- middle of the week
thursday - donnerstag
friday - freitag
...saturday
:)
(SaM)
13th December 2005, 22:59
To all dutch peeps that said they've always learned sunday was the start of the week... What kind of elementary school did you go to?
Katholiek, Protestants Christelijk, Gereformeerd, of openbaar?
Openbaar.
Vendetta
14th December 2005, 00:37
Who would think a thread with a question like this get 30 replies? :razz: :D
31 including my post :D
TagForce
14th December 2005, 10:36
sunday...
...saturday
:)
Here you go ruining my very nicely formulated option number 3 for when does the week start/end... :D I was hoping I'd get some of you confuzzled.
hrtburnout
14th December 2005, 12:04
To all dutch peeps that said they've always learned sunday was the start of the week... What kind of elementary school did you go to?
Katholiek, Protestants Christelijk, Gereformeerd, of openbaar?
Protestants Christelijk
ColeusRattus
14th December 2005, 12:27
Saturday and Sunday is WeekEND... End of the week, as in "not the week anymore"... So there's only 5 days in the week:
monday - montag
tuesday - dienstag
wednesday - mittwoch <-- middle of the week
thursday - donnerstag
friday - freitag
To all dutch peeps that said they've always learned sunday was the start of the week... What kind of elementary school did you go to?
Katholiek, Protestants Christelijk, Gereformeerd, of openbaar?
Saturday and Sunday are part of the week :P
But your able brings me to another interesting observation: 2000 years of christian domination in europe, but still we use old, "pagan" names for the days:
Montag = monday, day to honour germanic diety Mani, god of the moon.
Dienstag = tuesday, day to honour the germanic diety Ziu, Tiu or Tyr, also known as Saxnot, the god of war
Donnerstag = thursday, day to honour the germanic diety Donar or Thor, god of thunder
Freitag = friday, day to honor the germanic diety Freya, goddess of fertility (who is also the origin of the Easterbunny and -eggs...)
Sonntag = Sunday, day to honour the gemranic diety Sunna or Sol, goddess of the sun.
Mittwoch is obvioulsy not religion related, and the german "Samstag" is originating from the jewish Shabbat, so can be regarded as Christian.
Wednesday is the day to honour Woden or Wotan or Odin, the supreme god of germanic mythology
The english saturday on the other hand is the day to honour the roman diety Saturn, god of farming.
EDIT: So pretty mch every weekday has germanic or nordic roots. Only Saturday is out of place with a roman/jewish name... guess I need ot research on that matter, as germanic people would have had definately their own name for this day. So why was it dropped?
TagForce
14th December 2005, 13:04
Saturday and Sunday are part of the week :P
But your able brings me to another interesting observation: 2000 years of christian domination in europe, but still we use old, "pagan" names for the days:
Montag = monday, day to honour germanic diety Mani, god of the moon.
Dienstag = tuesday, day to honour the germanic diety Ziu, Tiu or Tyr, also known as Saxnot, the god of war
Donnerstag = thursday, day to honour the germanic diety Donar or Thor, god of thunder
Freitag = friday, day to honor the germanic diety Freya, goddess of fertility (who is also the origin of the Easterbunny and -eggs...)
Sonntag = Sunday, day to honour the gemranic diety Sunna or Sol, goddess of the sun.
Mittwoch is obvioulsy not religion related, and the german "Samstag" is originating from the jewish Shabbat, so can be regarded as Christian.
Wednesday is the day to honour Woden or Wotan or Odin, the supreme god of germanic mythology
The english saturday on the other hand is the day to honour the roman diety Saturn, god of farming.
EDIT: So pretty mch every weekday has germanic or nordic roots. Only Saturday is out of place with a roman/jewish name... guess I need ot research on that matter, as germanic people would have had definately their own name for this day. So why was it dropped?
I don't know why Saturday was dropped...
I do know that a lot of christian holidays were set to pagan days of feasting to make it easier for them to adopt to the new christian religion.
Christmas being the biggest, was set to the days of the pagan midwinter soltice.
ColeusRattus
15th December 2005, 10:46
I don't know why Saturday was dropped...
I do know that a lot of christian holidays were set to pagan days of feasting to make it easier for them to adopt to the new christian religion.
Christmas being the biggest, was set to the days of the pagan midwinter soltice.
Yeah, but all these days have been renamed to something christian... not the weekdays though. But perhaps 't was not to confuse weekdays with holydays designated to saints...
(SaM)
15th December 2005, 20:43
What Is the First Day of the Week?
The Bible clearly makes the Sabbath the last day of the week, but does not share how that corresponds to our 7 day week. Yet through extra-biblical sources it is possible to determine that the Sabbath at the time of Christ corresponds to our current 'Saturday.' Therefore it is common Jewish and Christian practice to regard Sunday as the first day of the week (as is also evident from the Portuguese names for the week days). However, the fact that, for example, Russian uses the name "second" for Tuesday, indicates that some nations regard Monday as the first day.
In international standard ISO-8601 the International Organization for Standardization (ISO) has decreed that Monday shall be the first day of the week.
Source: http://webexhibits.org/calendars/week.html#SECTION00650000000000000000
TagForce
15th December 2005, 22:43
What Is the First Day of the Week?
The Bible clearly makes the Sabbath the last day of the week, but does not share how that corresponds to our 7 day week. Yet through extra-biblical sources it is possible to determine that the Sabbath at the time of Christ corresponds to our current 'Saturday.' Therefore it is common Jewish and Christian practice to regard Sunday as the first day of the week (as is also evident from the Portuguese names for the week days). However, the fact that, for example, Russian uses the name "second" for Tuesday, indicates that some nations regard Monday as the first day.
In international standard ISO-8601 the International Organization for Standardization (ISO) has decreed that Monday shall be the first day of the week.
Source: http://webexhibits.org/calendars/week.html#SECTION00650000000000000000
And what if I don't like the Christian way of thinking, nor the International Standardization Organisation? From this day forth, the thursday shall be the start of the week for all things LFS! :D
Vendetta
15th December 2005, 22:45
Friday sounds more reasonable for the start of the week almighty one. Its not a school day ;) :D
JamesF1
16th December 2005, 08:56
Well, for me it has always been Sunday as the start of the week, but Monday as the start of the *working* week (same as Saturday would be the end of the week, but Friday the end of the working week).
And what if I don't like the Christian way of thinking, nor the International Standardization Organisation? From this day forth, the thursday shall be the start of the week for all things LFS! :D
Well then you can just scrap the entire date system and come up with something new. After all, you have your years defined by Christ's birth and you have the start of the week defined by Jewish/Christian tradition.
Or shall we declare Friday the start of the week (oh wait, the concept of week is from the Bible too... we'll need to scrap that :p) and make it the Year of the Sprocket?
In international standard ISO-8601 the International Organization for Standardization (ISO) has decreed that Monday shall be the first day of the week.
You do realise that the majority of ISO standards are not universally accepted by countries. Despite the name, the ISO group is not wholly international :)
However, the fact that, for example, Russian uses the name "second" for Tuesday, indicates that some nations regard Monday as the first day.
Go a short period back in history and you will find drastic changes that were made to the Russian language, prior to which the names of the week were not the same ;) (this is if I remember correctly from history classes of years gone by... But that is unlikey :p)
JamesF1
16th December 2005, 08:59
Double post!
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